Mindgamer wrote:Good luck / Have fun everyone.
Very interesting setup.
Well, it seems like our night strategy will be more important than our day discussion.
And that's why I'm calling Mykonian scum right now. His 'Great Plan' of doing the Night Actions in a circle pattern leads to an easy Mafia win.
We have nine players, player A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I. Let's say A and B are scum. Let's say the random circle will be E -> C -> A -> H -> I -> B -> F-> G -> D -> E.
The mafia know who the mafia and town are, so the doctors who will be 'protected' by the mafia won't be protected at all, so one of them will be killed by the mafia. The mafia now have a sure kill instead of a maybe kill. Additionally, the CPR Doctor and Quack Doctor will certainly kill because there are no other doctors protecting their victims. So, the next day we have three dead doctors. What a great strategy.
It's not flawless though. The CPR Doctor and the Quack Doctor can target the mafia so there's a chance both mafia will be killed by them. How to prevent this? By making sure that one of the mafia 'protects' the other mafia, so at least one of them will live. This requires that the circle is not random though, and this is where Mykonian's last post comes in, he requests in bold that he himself should make the circle. Mykonian wants to claim the circle so he can manipulate it.
Vote: Mykonian
For his mafia plan. Oh, and he's also trying to stop any discussion by suggesting that 'we better lynch right today'. Can he get any more scummy?
Where did I say mafia couldn't kill? And where do you promis that we won't have 3 dead doctor anyway? And mykonian already knew that scum have to be next to each other in the circle, and that they should be "forced" to kill another scummy player.
Mykonian would rather have a towny choosing this circle, since then he is certain such a circle gets formed. From Mykonians point of view, there are only 2 people that are confirmed town: he, and the nurse. But mykonian doubts it is a good idea to let the nurse claim.
And what is that last thing? how am I stopping discussion when I'm starting it?
@Looker, I don't vote pregame.
SaintKerrigan wrote:Looker wrote:Especially you, XScorpion
Why XScorpion in particular?
I disagree with Mykonian's plan.
There is a much better chance of scum winning with this plan than town
;
it's far more likely that the doctor kills will land on innocents
, and it gives the mafia a clean nightkill.
His proposal to set up the circle himself is also suspect.
However, the plan may not be all that great, but I'm not sure that he's scum simply for suggesting it. It's too bold a move, and I don't think scum would want to go and suggest a plan like that.
@ all the bolded: why?
And for you people thinking there is a better strategy. There might be one. But I know that one is good for town, and that is not using night-powers. We have the choice, do that, or use "random" actions, since we don't know what we are doing.
The best thing about the circle, is that we will know what will happen next.
Some people said the kills in the circle were random. This is correct. That means they more likely hit a towny then scum. But scumkills never hit scum. This way you have 2 more way's to hit scum.
and why is it suspect to propose to make that circle yourself? Because town wants control so scum won't manipulate it?
XScorpion wrote:Why me? Because Lookerscum defeated my town last game
I've seen scum suggest plans like that before and been defended by "I don't think scum would want to go and suggest a plan like that." I'm not buying it again.
Vote: Mykonian
We aren't going to be friends. This is horrible reasoning (he is so towny he must be scum).
vote Xscorpion
. Because you avoid all discussion about why the plan is actually scummy, and just go with general consensus and conspiracy thinking.
XScorpion wrote:The first I remember was when someone suggested a follow-the-cop strategy, although it didn't go through because there ended up being no cop...it seemed like rolefishing to me anyway.
I guess you could just say I'm wary about the last game where a scum started the game by killing the RVS (I like RVS) and asking a bunch of role-fishing questions.
Obviously rolefishing is kind of pointless here, but I'm still wary of people with those 'innovative' ideas that kill my beloved RVS.
OMG there are people that
think
. Now, why are you excusing yourself for something that seems wrong, but you just can´t help it?
I wished I was a doublevoter
Surrender, imagine and of course wear something nice.