Mini 733- Congratulations! You are... Mafia (Game Over)

[imaginality]

I hope these to be gudd game, yes?

Hrrrandom vote:

Vote: CoheedCambria09

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

[quote=Kmd4390]Ek, what is the whole alpaca thing? That's not the first time I've seen it on MS.[/quote]

Alpaca sandweeches you ken be findingkhere

[imaginality]

Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi...

[imaginality]

Vodka ant lemonade? Temptingk, but I would be preferringk fermented alpaca meelk.

Votecount

Zazie - 2609 - [Plum, caf, kmd]

2609/12 > 50%, sat is lynch!

[imaginality]

Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

When you said 'sat', did I correctly interpret that as meaning Saturday?

Plum iss truth, I was meaning "Oh look, frriends, we haf already a lynch!" (of courze, only was joking. I tsink our moderatorrr haf problem wiz her mathematics)

I would be interested in seeing a scenario where we each had a vote on us. The results of the following vote count could let us know if some players votes carry more weight than others.

Zis interests me also.

Unvote, Vote: Isacc

Imaginality, in every one of your posts so far, you have offered at least one element that presents a challenge to the reader in terms of comprehension. Are you doing this due to having some sort of post restriction?

Vhy musst ozzers alvays to mock our acczent? Everyvhere my people go, is always, "You sound strange. You look strrange. You live strrrange. Get out off here!" Look, I am yust vant to live in a peace town. I am good man. I help us all find the scum. And zen all is happy, yes? So to anszerr question: yes, I must talk zis way, eet is me, so I apology if it is hard for you to underrstand me sometimez.

And yes, I like to sing. I sing to llamas. I sing to frriends. I sing to enemies. It is our way. To singingk is life. To stop singingk is to die. So I sorry again, but I must sing. So I talk and I sing. And, it iz

goood

song, is it not?

[imaginality]

Alo, alo, sunt eu, Picasso
ti-am dat beep
si sunt voinic
Dar sa stii, nu-ti cer nimic.

[imaginality]

I haf never heard off, nor zeeen, any garden gnomes in thees village.

I vood loik to note dat dey may not exeest in zis bazhtad of ze mod game.

With zis I am agreeing. Also am vondering if dahill's alien paranoia is seemilarly vild geese chase.

@ Darox

Hulk, Green Lantern, Aquaman, Volferine. (I am saying zat now in case I vant to ask you anysing later, maybe to say eet now is save time and less stress.)

[imaginality]

Vrei sa pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

[imaginality]

I vondering, lemonade, eef maybe could be Kool Aid cult zuizide drink. I no trust caf19.

FoS

Glork and I not from same country, I think. I from tsmall village, Glod. Perhabs you haf heard thees place? (But please, no mention zat film. Very annoy us.)

[imaginality]

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei

[imaginality]

You're voting Imaginality for wondering what the lemonade does and, after he comes up with a plausible idea and decides not to trust Caf and FOSes Caf,

vote

him?

i'm voting for him for fosing Caf for a bad reason. sure, it could be a deathcult suicide thingy, but what's stopping it from being good?

Meh, sorry. Did not zpell out my reasons. The zuizide thing vas yust exomple. Caf not zay what lemonade does, he too vague about eet. So I FoS him. Not becos I sure lemonade is bad. But because

1.

True, I don't actually know other than by the fact that nothing obviously horrible has publicly occurred - I was mostly being facetious with that remark.

2.

As for what's in it for me, I'm not at liberty to say.

3.

And I still don't know what the lemonade does.

4.

There's stuff in my role that suggests the lemonade isn't dangerous, but I can't tell you any of that stuff either.

5.

(worst role ever or what?)

6.

I know it might seem scummy to keep trying to make you buy lemonade, but unfortunately I'm gonna keep banging on about it until enough of you do.

1. Okay.

2. Admitting zat zomething is 'in it for him'. And please, be noting, 'for him' not 'for town'!

3. Does not know vhat lemonade does, but does know vhat is in it for him?

4. Is izzy to say, is impozzible to dizprove.

5. Ve all are havingk worst roles. Beingk not able to revealing role is not so bad, iz usual.

6. Admitz is scummy to sell lemonade wiffout know vhat effect is. But still vants to anyhow. "I know it is scummy" does not unscummy eet.

One people has drinked lemonade. Why vant more today? If drinker still alive and healthful tomorrow, maybe others might drink.


2 and 3 and 6, theese my reasons for FoS. And 5 also I not like but zat one yust a hunch, it yust sound 'off'.

[imaginality]

si te rog, iubirea mea, primeste fericirea...

[imaginality]

Here I haf many cute kattens for mod:




but zis cat looks scummy:

[imaginality]

Te sun, sã-ti spun, ce simt, acum
Alo, iubirea mea sunt eu, fericirea

[imaginality]

First off:
Hulk
Human Torch
Aquaman
Batman

Next: I have no knowledge on any sort of gnome. But

i do know that my role is pretty sweet, all things considered.

Rereadink and zis caught eye. Vhy hint like zat. Zeems counter-productive if town, but could be uuuseful vay for deter offerz from votingk you, if scum.

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

Even eeff I can not vif half my posts say anysing useful, at leest I can occasionally post thees lyrics at mildly relevant and/or ironic ways/times, yes?

The rezent dahill v kmd stuff... I see eet how dahill sees eet.

But I do not sink Plum or Isacc or caf deliberately misunderstanding dahill's point, at least not obviously.

On my second hand, Kmd's responses, zey vorry me a bit.

I think zees in particular:

A

Yeah, I agree there.

Like in the random phase, when people call a 3rd vote on a bandwagon scummy in a mini, that's not even close to a lynch, but it always seems to make people vote over it.

does that mean you were trying to avoid a vote when you posted this explanation for voting zazier?

No. It was a normal jokevote. I always vote her.

kmd's response seems to deliberate missing ze point of dahill's question vhich vhas (at zis point) clearly about explanation not vote eetself.

B

I was going to vote her anyway and then saw a couple votes already on her. I wasn't going to not vote her just because of 2 votes though, so I said what I said. There really isn't any other motive to it or anything.

Zis combined with first quote above suggests kmd's explanation vas attempt to forestall question/attack over kmd's vote.

C

If I was just bandwagoning, I'd have said so. I wasn't, so I said I wasn't.

False dichotomy, you could have to said nothing either vay.

D

I do like the fact that we are actually discussing who could be scum now, and not just being random.

Zis last one not anything strong, yust hunch, because seems overly pleasant.


Together, in absence of anythingk elz much, I am finding Kmd4390 slightly scummy which is more than most others. (Still haf some doubts about caf and lemonade, but prepared to wait and see on zat front.)

Unvote; vote: Kmd4390

[imaginality]

Alo, salut, sunt eu, un haiduc
si te rog, iubirea mea, primeste fericirea.

[imaginality]

Nice link elvis. Even chipmunks like zis song. Everyone in vorld like it.

And if mod still vants cats, here some deranged singingk cats.


Kmd:

A. kmd's response seems to deliberate missing ze point of dahill's question vhich vhas (at zis point) clearly about explanation not vote eetself.

A. My reasoning WAS that I always vote her. I see his point, but it's weak. I've said several times that if people vote me to get out of the random phase, that's fine. If I got called out for bandwagoning Zazie just to start discussion, fine.

Vhether or not you alvays vote her, is ihhrrrrelevant to vhy you felt need to explain so. If you okay with beingk called out for bandvagoning, why explain vote.

I was going to vote her anyway and then saw a couple votes already on her. I wasn't going to not vote her just because of 2 votes though, so I said what I said. There really isn't any other motive to it or anything.

Zis combined with first quote above suggests kmd's explanation vas attempt to forestall question/attack over kmd's vote.

B. Honestly not sure what you mean. Please clarify.

You say "I said what I said" because 2 votes alrready on Zazier, but this zuyyests you said it to avoid beingk seen as vagoning. Vhich goes against vhat you said, that you don't mind if get called out for vagoning.

If I was just bandwagoning, I'd have said so. I wasn't, so I said I wasn't.

False dichotomy, you could have to said nothing either vay.

C. I didn't sit there and think, "Hmm, maybe I shouldn't say that because it will look scummy." My bad I guess?

My point here ees not about your actions vhen voting, point ees that usingk false dichotomy in defense is not good.

I do like the fact that we are actually discussing who could be scum now, and not just being random.

Zis last one not anything strong, yust hunch, because seems overly pleasant.

D. Not sure what the point is here.

I tsink above quote may be example of tryingk to appear cool onder prezzure. "Smile happily and don't look scared" as mother told me to do eef I qvestioned by police. Is good advice. In zat quote I tsink you trying same thing maybe.

[imaginality]

Vrei sa pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi.

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi.

[imaginality]

Googling this... it seems imaginality is "numa numa" a virus that makes you go crazy and love bad music. lol.

No, I not virus. Am clean and healthish. (Is myth zat my people are unclean. I vash myself every month.) I yust like zat zong. I like zinging eet all day longk.

Seems anti-town, but maybe every role in this game seems anti-town in some regard...

QFT. In thees type of game, our town ees like blind lepers limping in all dirrrections tryingk to catch drrronken criminal.


I still am vanting CoheedCambria09 my quezztion to anzer (about vhy he hinted somethink about his role zo early in game). Zeemed tactically dubious if he hrreally pro-town ees.

[imaginality]

Te sun, sã-ti spun, ce simt, acum
Alo, iubirea mea sunt eu, fericirea

Alo, alo, sunt iarasi eu, Picasso
ti-am dat beep si sunt voinic
Dar sã stii, nu-ti cer nimic!

[imaginality]

/agree with Issac
don't like sly's "foreign languages are scummy" policy at all
also sly, if you believe that the different languages are scummy, shouldn't you be voting someone who is doing so by your logic?

Well, seeing how there are multiple players doing it, and I don't understand what any of them are saying, it is hard to narrow it down to one.

Eef you think is scummy, any of zees players vould a good vote be zince by your logic, ve all are scummy. Maybe takes longer to be deciding who scummiest is, but you vould be voting for, at least, a scummy player (accordingk your definition, wif vhich I disagree obviously).

Post restriction is one thing, but Imaginality taunting me with it is another. I seriously doubt that there is a clause in his role that says he must immediately taunt anyone who calls the foreign languages scummy.

Vhat dahill1 said.

For vhat it worth, SlySly (and evehrryone), I tell you zat none of my songing posts haf any relevant content. You can safely ignore zem all eef you vish. I vill try to be posting them zoon ofter each normal post, so next post after that also normal can be. (...Vhat, you no think zis accent my normal accent ees? Sorry, I cannot be changingk accent, is not possible!)

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Alo, salut, sunt eu, un haiduc
si te rog, iubirea mea, primeste fericirea

[imaginality]

Imaginality has continued singing. May I ask how often your PR requires you to Numa-Numa, imaginality (if at all) just for my personal edification?

Eef you view my posts in izolation, ze frequency of my singing pretty clear is. I vill try to be twize as helpful wiz my real posts to make up for ze rest of time I am singink.

SlySly's anti-foreign-language comment I can see more likely frustration rather than scumtell.

I am noticingk Isacc whinging a lot vhen someone votes him. He goes hard after hasdgfas and misreads hasdgfas's case against him. Defending self not scummy, but I think townie more likely to respond to actual case against him, so I see Isacc's reaction as scummy.

And "major FoS Has for a totally bull accusation and tunneling. I might vote you, except I have not decided who exactly seems the most suspicious yet" ees OMGUSsy comment tryingk not to appear too OMGUSsy.

Unvote; vote Isacc

at least for now (because I also keeping close eye out for destructor's explanation of English post, very interezting possible slip...)

[imaginality]

Te sun, sã-ti spun, ce simt, acum
Alo, iubirea mea sunt eu, fericirea...

Alo, alo, sunt iarasi eu, Picasso
ti-am dat beep si sunt voinic
Dar sã stii, nu-ti cer nimic...

[imaginality]

Yust a short post for now, am at work, vill post again later today.

One thought, only zemi-zerious musing - ve

could

call SlySly's bluff, no? If lynching him = no lynch, is not zo bad. Confirms Sly's claim. Okay, puts us on even nomberrs vhich is bad if means one less lynch, but vhat are chances of zis game proceeding in orderly one kill per night, one lynch per day anyhow?

Zere is one rrisk I see wif zis idea, vhich to guard against, if we do lynch SlySly maybe ve should tell a scum suspect to hammerrr. In case hammerrrerr is eaten by zazquatch or zomethink, yes?

Sidenote: dahill1, you zeem to haf given up your alien hont. Vas it yust a random-vote-stage thing? Or?

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

First, on destructor:

No If I could, I would, how I hate German.

This is the worrying post, expressing quite clearly that Zazie feels unable to post in English at all. The way I see it, if he's telling the truth then the mod's wording about the German PR must be quite vague, because destructor now has way less than half his posts in German. It's no longer possible for the PM to be specific (e.g. 'at least x amount of your posts must be in German').

I agree wif caf, zis post is heart of ze matter.

Question to destructor: did you ask mod for clarrrification on your role restrriction? Or only going by vhat your PM is saying?

Second, my 'foreign language posts' are lyrics to zong. Zong has no game-related meaning. Lyrics only lyrics, notting more. Iss yust nice song.


Now, elvis, let me onzer you:

1.

Um, I think that imaginality was the first one to say that slysly was unlynchable, and then sly just agreed. Sly made vague warnings, but I think imaginality was the first one to say unlynchable.

Actually, as point of technicality, Plum vas firrrst to raise zis possibility (post-355):

So, you name-claim and claim some sort of vague psudeo-invincibility, amirite? To make yourself clear, just how lynchproof are you, as far as you're allowed to say?

2.

Here's what slysly was saying before imaginality says unlynchable. He says the town would be wasting it's time trying to lynch him. I took that to mean "Hey, I'm town so trying to lynch me is not productive as it won't kill scum." I guess it could mean literally, that the town will waste it's time as the lynch won't go through, but that is not the way I took it. Usually when people say "the town will waste a lynch on me" it means that they are town, not that they are unlynchable. Amirite?

I zuyyest you rread SlySly's claim again (post 352).

I am a sasquatch. I can't go into detail about my role but I see it as pretty much of a waste of time trying to lynch me as the odds of catching and/or killing a sasquatch are very slim. Just think about it, have you ever actually seen a sasquatch or the remains of one? I am town and fearless

In vhat vay is that not hinting at being unlynchable? Please readingk this in particular: "a waste of time trying to lynch me

as the odds of catching and/or killing a sasquatch are very slim

" -

not

"a waste of time trying to lynch me because I am town". No, zis is very clear sayingk it is time-vaste

because

he is zazqvatch (if he is) - i.e. it von't vork for role reasons.

3.

And then Imaginality comes in and understands sly differently (than me) and says sly must be unlynchable:

If lynching him = no lynch, is not zo bad. Confirms Sly's claim.

In vhat vorld does 'if' equal 'must'? The zentence beforre zat one makes it clear I don't know eef Sly unlynchable is or if he lying, yes?

One thought, only zemi-zerious musing - ve could call SlySly's bluff, no? If lynching him = no lynch, is not zo bad. Confirms Sly's claim.

(Yes I assumed

eef

he telling truth, he unlynchable, I assume zis because of his claim, see 2.)

4.

Then sly starts saying he's not sure the lynch would go through, but he doesn't know for sure. Which is pretty weird if even sly "doesn't know," but imaginality apparently does.

Again, I did not (and do not) know. My assumption is lynching him vill fail for reasons related to his role,

eef he is tellingk truthful about hiss role

. I base zis on his claim (see 2).

5.

I guess maybe it's possible that imaginality just jumped to the wrong conclusion, but it seems like there is some communication/coaching/hinting going on between these two, or that imaginality knows more than he's saying. Slysly's role seems hard to pin down, and his story is changing... going from vague warnings, to failure to correct people who say he's unlynchable, to saying he's not sure if he can be lynched or not. I do not like it when stories change.

I agree wif last two zentences.

Here iss how I see it. SlySly initially rrezponds to my idea as follows:

A

As long as the town searches for other scum before my lynch attempt, I am onboard with this plan. Although, finding scum to lynch would be a better plan, especially if we expose more than one.

But vhen others (Plum, Glork) also show they tempted to test him by lynchink him, and he zees it iss real pozzibility, he has to backtrack:

B

I assume the day would end, but I don't know that for sure. I don't even know for sure that I won't die, but I have never been witness to a successful sasquatch hunt and for that reason, I suspect the lynch will not succeed.

If he really not know if he lynchable or not, vhy vould he be okay vif being lynched as a test? Either he idiot or haf balls of zteel. I find hiss vagueness/uncertainty interestink contrrast wif zis post of his:

C

You specifically mentioned how your question to me was related to your own role. Your own role is meant to have an ability that is extremely useful - some sort of invulnerability or something.

Or something would be the better descriptor. I cannot elaborate on this without risk of modkill.

Here it zeems he knows vhy he could be safe from lynch, more than yust 'assumption' as he describes it at ozzer times.

SlySly's attempt to explain his posts:

D

I think spending this day on others is the best plan. The only reason I would be onboard with imaginality's plan is because if my suspicion about one of my abilities as a sasquatch is correct, the results would somewhat prove my suspicion. I don't know for sure that I will be able to slip through the lynch. Proving myself right is not that important but in the heat of battle when someone is rubbing your nose in something, sometimes you spout off with arrogance just to show someone up. 'that's a nice full house, but take a look at these 4 aces, baby!' and that is all great until they comeback with 'oh yeah? read this this straight flush and weep'. I'm from Texas, need I say more?

Who vas rubbingk his nose in something? I agree howeffer his being on board with my plan vas bluff. But I think his hinting invulnerability also bluff. I think he hope by zeeming confident, ozzers vould belief him and not test claim. Vhen it became clear he might get put to test, he had to backtrack and say he not sure he unlynchable.

Vhen his story change onder pressure, this very zuzpicious. I now feel pretty sure his hint of knowing he can not be lynched vas bluff.

Question is, vould pro-town player make zat bluff? Ziss, I think is key question here. And I think not zo likely, I think more likely scum (or SK - and a zazquatch could be an SK, I thinking) vould bluff like zat.

Unvote; Vote: SlySly

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

Before I am lynched, other than myself, who do you (townies) find scummy?

Hmm. Intehrrrezting phrase - "you (townies)" = SlySly not townie?

@ destructor

, please be onzering my question:

Question to destructor: did you ask mod for clarrrification on your role restrriction? Or only going by vhat your PM is saying?

and eef you did not asked mod re. pozt restriction, vhy not, do you think PM is already clear enough on zis matter?

[imaginality]

Alo, alo, sunt eu, Picasso
ti-am dat beep
si sunt voinic
Dar sa stii, nu-ti cer nimic

Vrei sa pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi...

[imaginality]

Questions for SlySly:

Vhy did you trrrink lemonade before lynch attempt?

Did you know vhat effect it vould haf beforre you drrinked it?

If not, do you now know vhat effect it haf?

Vhy did you not answer Kmd when he asked this earrlier?

Sly, you are at L-1. Please claim as closely to fullclaim as you are allowed. Also wondering what happened after you drank the lemonade just now.

I have said all I can say about my role.

[imaginality]

Vrei sa pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

[imaginality]

The poor fools gathered around one of their own, SlySly

Does this statement mean anything to anyone besides myself?

To me it means, in orrderrr off likelihood:

(a) as Kmd said, only means that you and we all inhabitants of zis village, wif no implication alignment-vise

(b) you could be yester ("poor

fools

gathered around one of their own"); the idea zat you might be somevhat- or completely-unlynchable yester zeems zomehow fittingk in bastard-mod game

(c) vhat you said, flavourr confirms you as town

I give it this odds, yes?

(a) = 80%
(b) = 15%
(c) = 5%

Vhy did you trrrink lemonade before lynch attempt?

Dramatic effect.

But at cost of muddying ze vaters. Zince now playerrrs who suzpected you may vonder if you survived dueing to lemonade and not dueing to rhrrole. (Or, maybe, you survive due to role but tryingk to lure more players to buy lemonade if you and Caf both scum are.)

I put zis doubts out there to explain vhy I not yet totally convinced your rrrole/alignment claim iss true... but, I accept your point, better to be lookingk for scum elzevhere for now.

Unvote: SlySly

[imaginality]

Te sun, sã-ti spun, ce simt, acum
Alo, iubirea mea sunt eu, fericirea

[imaginality]

I notice SlySly haf bought lemonade two times, but only 1 cup sold vas. Apparrently lemonade can only to buy onze per player. Not sure vhat zis means, but vorth noting.


Isacc steered clear of Sly vagon, am vonderingk if he may be scum knowingk Sly is not scum, zo knowingk Sly vas telling truth, so knowingk no value for him to join in lynch. By not voting Sly he looks good vhen we come to belief Sly is town.

Isacc still lookingk scummy to me, yes? Hiss plan re. destructor, whezzer or not scummy in itself, at best vas not helpful for us, seems like attempt to appear scumhunting and keep prrressure on destructor but little chance it vould haf led anyvhere useful.

More significantly, tone of Isacc's posts also just make me feel suspicious of him. Pouring scorn on arrguments against him, and prre-emptif defenses like:

I'm aware I probably look like bad pedaling scum

(vhich incidentally for zose who like verbal slips, 'bad' may be slip here, by ze by)

Vhat vorries me most is, imprresion I get from re-rread: Isacc's posts gif a sense zat he places himself against town rather zan sees himself on same side as us.

I voting him earrrlier, beforre SlySly stuff, now I vote him again.

Vote: Isacc

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

Makes zense to me.

Unvote
Vote: SlySly

(As for points beingk made against me, and ozzer goings-on, I vill haf time to rerrread and post in more detail tomorrrrow, yes?)

[imaginality]

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

Unvote; Vote Darox

Flagrrrant leck off scom-hunting for most zis game. Not even has provide any uzevol votingk rrecord to look back on.

Haf ozzer point to make but on my vay to vork so keepingk thees post short end sweat, yes?

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

Unvote; Vote Darox

Flagrrrant leck off scom-hunting for most zis game. Not even has provide any uzevol votingk rrecord to look back on.

Haf ozzer point to make but on my vay to vork so keepingk thees post short end sweat, yes?

Note that this comes in place of a response to the mini-case I posted on imaginality and said that I'd like to lynch Darox.

Now I'm trying to figure out if he's bussing Darox, or if Darox's town play sucks and imaginality's jumping on an easy mislynch.

Third option: Am not scum at all.

'in place of a response' - not replace. Vas more interestink in to try to figure out who scum is razzer zan onzer vhat I considered veak case on me. Zinz you inzist, zough:

Bad vibes on imaginality:
Starts from 167, after dahill pointed out the weak reasoning for his FOS on caf. He says that the "death cult" wasn't his main reason. He goes on to dissect one of caf's posts and say that his issues with that were the real reasons for his FOS, but why didn't he state those in the first place? Look at the way he over-analyses the post, commenting on parts of it that have no relevance to his actual argument. It makes the whole thing look like a big backtrack done on the fly.

His case on kmd seemed reachy. I particularly didn't like this:

Together, in absence of anythingk elz much, I am finding Kmd4390 slightly scummy which is more than most others.

In the absece of anything else? Why isn't he worried about Coheed's lurking? Or Darox's meagre contributions?

His jab at Sly for his "you (townies)" comment was reachy too. His recent comments about Isaac being scummy seem similarly opportunistic.

1. Vhat I zed vhen I FoS caf vas:

I vondering, lemonade, eef maybe could be Kool Aid cult zuizide drink. I no trust caf19. FoS

I said reason for FoS, that I not trust caf. Death cult yust a possibility I raise as exomple of vhy lemonade could be bad if caf is bad. my later post (166) I zpell out reasons vhy I not trust caf. (Note phrasink in zat post, "Did not zpell out my reasons." - not givingk different reasons for FoS, yust explaining vhy I not trust caf.) 166 is not defensive/backtrackingk, 166 is explainingk. Vas not makingk case to vote caf (my vote vas still on Isacc), yust to explain vhy I not buy lemonade and not think it good to buy lemonade.

2. "Why isn't he worried about..." Not whole lot of point voting lurkers until zey return (showing they lurking were), I not rrreally like to vote people who may yust haf flaked (as it turned out CoheedCambria did). I vas findingk it hard to get good reads on people in ziz game (still am somevhat, ezpezially elvis and Kmd). As for Darox, lack of contribution at zat time vas not so vorrying, it vas not so long zinz rrrandom stage. By now iss more scummy.

3. Re. Sly's comment: I accept it vas a stretch and I vas tunnel on him zomvhat for the vhile. But I do not seeing vhy that is a concern. If scum, I vould know Sly was not scum, so I vould know he is likely truth-telling wif unlynchable claim, so vhy stretch to get him lynched?

I admit haf not found today easy-scumhunting, but I zink my posts show I actively involved and trying. Other players, most ozzer players, I can to see their day1 posts vill provide value vhen looking back in later days. But Darox's posts provide I think little content, little value. I zink term "active lurker" may be apprrroprrriate yes?

[imaginality]

Vrei sa pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei -
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei

[imaginality]

Got prodded, apologises. I vas waited to rrread the rrrrest of Darrrrrox's overrrrrrrrview but zhat ztill haz not yet to arrive...

As for ozzer stuff lately, Isacc's post yust above helps confirm my zense of Darox vas deliberrrately tryingk to zkate through day while prrovided little in ze vay of analyziz orr vote rrecord. Still very happy with my vote on him, think he good lynch for today.

I take Glork's side about destrrructor, who zeems to haf been fish/prezzure Glork to roleclaim and prezzing too hard (at this stage) on Glork for current inability to vote. Azide from hoping to get claim, destrructor may alzo haf been hoping if ozzer vagons fizzle out ve vould fall back on a 'lynch Glork he iss useless' lynch as deadline apprroaches.

Not sure about points against elvis, haf to re-read her posts again. At moment prrefer Darox lynch, also ok with destructor lynch. Feeling better about Isacc due to rrezent posts, now I tending to think hisss earrrlier aggrrreszzsion may been ankry townie razzer zan prezzured scum.

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

If he was forced into a fake-claim, he'd have less room to move in the future. Basically, the sooner scum are forced to a claim, the more likely the town is to catch them.

You making assuming he scum. But is zere good reason for zis assumption? Because iff he iss

town

ant forced into claimingk early, zis iss bad for town. dahill1 is right, forcingk Glork to claim is only good idea to ze degree zat ve haf rreasons to think Glork is scum.

[imaginality]

Alo, alo, sunt eu, Picasso
ti-am dat beep
si sunt voinic
Dar sa stii, nu-ti cer nimic -

Vrei sa pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi....

[imaginality]

And please vhen claiming, Darox, also to give uz rezt ov ze 'long post' analyziz or as much as you haf done. Even eef ve still dezide to lynching you anyhow, it vill be helful to haf zat posted. (Especially if you fleep scum, but even if you fleep town.)

[imaginality]

Vrei sa pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si...

[imaginality]

caf, do you still need meenimum 3 perzons to be drinkingk lemonsaft today too (and each day)?

Feorrry kvestion: in games on MS wif lyncher, is lyncher's target generally town-aligned player? or could be any of ozzer players, could be town or scom?

If meta is firrst, am suspecting if Kmd is qvik to agreeingk he is lynchee as onder zat meta, beingk lynchee makes him more likely zeem town. If meta is second, am fine wiz kmd's remark.

Eizer vay, is possible in zis bastard mod game dahill's target vas either not in game (no aliens) orr unlynchable (slysly), yes?

[imaginality]

Alo, salut, sunt eu, un haiduc
si te rog, iubirea mea, primeste fericirea

Alo, alo, sunt eu, Picasso
ti-am dat beep
si sunt voinic
Dar sa stii, nu-ti cer nimic

[imaginality]

I have some lingering suspicions about cow, but I guess I can't go there today because he's silenced.

I would be willing to change my vote and support a cow lynch, silenced or not.

I agree in zat I tsink at ze leeest is vorth rerrreading cow's posts, razzer zan gif him free rride into day 3. (Though, I vill only votingk him eef I think he scummier zan ozzer players tovards end of thees day.)

[imaginality]

Vrei sa pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi?

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei...

[imaginality]

Am rerreadingk beforre voting, but my vote at moment is mose likely to go on Isacc, elvis or Plum.

Who bought lemonade yeztoday? If buyers are still alive zhey zhould be ze vuns to buy today too (assuming zey still trust caf), yust to minimize risk razor zhan spread rrisk too videly.

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

Vote: SlySly

I akree wif Elvis,

I think we should try to lynch Sly again today. If we can't, we go for someone else.

Imaginality: Any reasons for those choices?

Ended day 1 feeling I should gif elvis and Plum gut re-rread; vhen I follow up on vague uniz about somevun zey offen look more clearly scummy after reread. As for you, kinda opposite rreason, I felt you vere scummy day 1 but vant to rerread to decide if maybe you vere yust playink badly or rrreally scum.

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

Why have you waited so long to get on this wagon? Elvis's suggestion was days ago and you have posted a few times since then. Shouldn't you have agreed to this earlier instead of waiting until now to agree to wasting the time of the town again today?

I fail to seeink vhy you are so vorried about it vasting town's time.

(a) people haf been read, and to make cases, and zo vorth, between elvis's vote and mine. It iss not like it vas vasted time yust because I vote now.

(b) ve can vote you and lynch-test you (if ve still find you scummy, vhich to being honestly, I do, yes?) vhile still discussing and makingk cases on ozzers. It not a big distraction.

As for vhy I voted now rather zan earrrlier, I vanted to check I still find you scummy on re-read before voting you. Aside vrom day vun stuff, today your to-and-fro wif elvis rreads badly to me:

I was concerned the message wasn't sinking in.

What are you worried about if you can't be lynched?

I'm not worried. It seems to me that you are willing to waste the town's time again today, though. That seems scummy to me. Though I would prefer to lynch cow, if you keep pushing this issue when others seem to think there are more important avenues to explore, I will be moving my vote to you. [/quote]

Haf addressed your claim about time-vasting above, but your prre-emptif OMGUSing (or trreatening or vhatever you vant to call it) of elvis here, and your rresponse to my vote too, makes me think you zeem zignificantly more nervous about votes on you today to yesterday.

If you are genuinely not vorried vhy not vote yourself and encourage more votes on you and ve vill resolve this and move on quicker than if you resisting and callink people scummy for vanting to try it, yes?

Unless caf reveals what is accomplished by lemonade sales and it proves to be pro-town, I will not be buying any lemonade today.

Vhy ze change in attitude compared vif yesterday?

[imaginality]

Alo, salut, sunt eu, un haiduc
si te rog, iubirea mea, primeste fericirea

Alo, alo, sunt eu, Picasso
ti-am dat beep
si sunt voinic
Dar sa stii, nu-ti cer nimic

[imaginality]

Yust the question:

If caf is scum, I don't want to help him by buying his wares. If caf is town, he needs to tell us how the town benefits from the sales before he can expect us to buy anymore.

Vhy does zis logic apply today more zan yesterday? Vhy gif him benifeet of doubt and buy eet yesterday but not today?

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

Yesterday I was attempting to prove how tough a sasquatch is. That has now been proven and I don't need to prove it again. He will have to convince me there is a pro-town reason to buy some today before I will.

Yesterday you vere prrrepared to taking anti-town ackshuns to be proof how tough-man you are? (If you are sayingk you did not to trust caf yesterday eizzer, dat is conclusssion ve reach.)

Vhat did drinkingk lemonade proof dzat to be hanged by neck to no effect, twize, didn't?

[imaginality]

si sunt voinic
Dar sa stii, nu-ti cer nimic

[imaginality]

Lost internet connection at home. Will post tomorrow. Currently suspicious of Sly/Isacc/Plum in that order.

[imaginality]

EBWOP: Lost internet connection at home. Vill post tomorrrrrrrrow. Currrrrrrently zuzpiziouz off Sly/Isacc/Plum in dat orrrderrr, yes?

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Alo, salut, sunt eu, un haiduc
si te rog, iubirea mea, primeste fericirea

Alo, alo, sunt eu, Picasso
ti-am dat beep
si sunt voinic
Dar sa stii, nu-ti cer nimic

Vrei sa pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

[imaginality]

Kmd, what is your opinion of EK in this game?

TBH, I don't see what others seem to see. She seems pretty townie to me. I'd much rather lynch Isacc.

QFT. I reread the posts of Isacc's and man, I still get a scummy feel from them. I'll join Kmd on this one.

Unvote; Vote Isacc

[imaginality]

EBWOP: QFT. I rerrread ze postz off Isacc's and man, I ztill gettingk scommy veel vrom zem. I vill join Kmd on zis vun. (And I hate makingk rrrushed posts vrom interrrnet cafes, yes?)

[imaginality]

Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo

[imaginality]

My internet iss back up, yes? I haf not see anyzink zis last vew day to sway me avay frrrom thinkingk Isaac is probability our best lynch choice forr today.

[imaginality]

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

[imaginality]

Theorrry qwvestion: somevun or somezing haf zilence hascow, yes?

If ve haf a silencer role, vhat is meta herre on MS? Is silencer nearly alvays anti-town rrole? or can be eizer prrro-town orrr anti-town?

[imaginality]

Alo, salut, sunt eu, un haiduc
si te rog, iubirea mea, primeste fericirea

Alo, alo, sunt eu, Picasso
ti-am dat beep
si sunt voinic
Dar sa stii, nu-ti cer nimic

[imaginality]

Hello elviz.

Okay. I am figurrrink, zis is goink no vhere fasst. Zo, I rekvest Isaac to

claim now pliss

.

Because if he claim now, it is givingk us time for to findt a betterer lynch, but

pizz

zitting arrrround doingk nozzing anodder vew days iss likely to lead to us makingk a impendink-deadline-panic-inspirred lynch choice, yes?

So, I think claim now is better for Isaac (if he town, he lez likely to be lynch if claim now zan if ve linker aimlezly ontil deadline), ant better for uz.

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

I vould be very very interezted in hearing ehveryone's opinion of [imaginality] and ze validity ov ze cazes he has made in zis game.

Usevuleesh zings I fink I haf done zis game inclod:

(a) 315, 584 - drrowing attenshjon to ze tone off Isaac's posts, hiss gettingk rattled by prezzure on him
(b) 379 - I vas firrst to prroposing ve lynch SlySly to test hiss claim (if not expleezit claim zen at list verrry strrronkly implied) of beink unlynchable
(c) 707 - first to vote Darox - admittedly at zat point my vote vas prrrimarrily forr lack off content but I stuck vid my vote (even vhen he posted hisss zemi-rrread, vhich vould haf be good moment to yustifiably drrop prrressure on him iff I had vanted to) and helped to lynch ze scum
(d) 720 - onzorred your points about me
(e) 830 - pointed out dat your prrroposal to force Glorrrk to claim vould only be beingk usevul to extent ve believed he vas scummy, not useful ozzervise (ant now you're Glork, feel free to zank me )
(f) 959/963/967/971 - backed idea off testink SlySly's unlynchability today vhich vould haf been good I zink, but only elvis and I zeemed to vant to; pressured SlySly over drinkingk lemonade
(g) 1071 - prrroposed Isaac claims (i) to get zis day movingk again and (ii) because if Isaac is town, I fink he beingk less likely to be today's lynch iff he claim now zhan if ve trrread vawter vor anodder view days

[imaginality]

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

Happy Birthday!

[imaginality]

Fangs vor all ze happy-birrrthday vishes.

I vill belief Isacc's claim vor now.

Unvote

Zumfink abut caf19's rrole vorries me:

I need at least three people to buy lemonade each day.

Zis I am vonderingk abut. Eet seems zat zis vud gif scum ze vin in 5-man lylo. (Zey don't buy lemonade and even if you lynch one of zem, it leavingk 1 townie and 1 scum next day efter you die and zey kill overnight, yes?)

So I am qvestioningk vether zere vud be a role vhich is doomed to self-destrrruct near endgame (vunz fewer zan 3 ozzer townies arre alive), even in bastarrd mod game.

[imaginality]

Alo, salut, sunt eu, un haiduc
si te rog, iubirea mea, primeste fericirea

Alo, alo, sunt eu, Picasso
ti-am dat beep
si sunt voinic
Dar sa stii, nu-ti cer nimic

[imaginality]

imaginality, joo are still votink Iyzak. Do joo still vant to lynch him? If not, vich of elvis or caf vud joo support ze lynching of?

I had alrrruddy unvoted vhen you askingk me zis.

As vor vhich I vud prever to lynch. I am leanink tovords caf19. (Rrreasons: (1) vhile caf did exprrress some zuzpizion of Darox durink day 1, only voted him ven it became Darox-lynch-or-no-lynch-time, (2) doubts about caf19's 3-buyerrs-or-die rrrole in late-game as exprrrezzed above, (3) vague sense zat caf19 has been scum-hunting less zan elvis)

Howeffer, I am notingk zere are vree votes vor caf allrrready, zo I vill hold off votingk for now to give caf19 a chance to claim vifout riskingk a hammer, but as finks stand, I vill vote caf19 laterr today.

Votecount

caf - 97 - [Sly, Elvis, kmd]
Elvis - 98 - [Isacc, Plum]

Not Voting - 99 - [des, Hascow, caf, Imaginality]

Cups of Lemonade Bought : 3

Deadline: Tuesday, March 24, 12:00 PM EST

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

In other news, Imaginality I think you misunderstood my question. I wanted you to explain why you should not be lynched. Please answer soon? lol.

In 1078 I vas listink zome helpvoll stoff I haf done zis game. I admit my contrrributions today haf been less zan spectacular. But I vill haf more to offer tomorrrrow.


Elvis, you say

But I can't win until I find my lady love.

So zis sounds difffferrrrent to, zay, PokerFace's rrrole in Monty Python Mafia vhere he had to find cigarrrettes (a vild gooze chaze) but vas also able to vin viv town. Yust to clarrrify, elvis, vhich if any of following is correct?

(a) you vin viv town

or

if you find yourr lover
(b) you vin viv town

but only if

you haf found your lover
(c) you vin if you haf found your lover
(d) ozzer

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

It is very important to me zat imaginality, Sly and Kmd tell os who zey tink is caf's schombuddy. I beeleeve it vil give us moch informashon regardless of vich vay he flips.

Korrently, off top of my head, am finkingk Plom in parrticular and Glork-now-you perrhaps could fit as scumbuddiez for caf19, yes?

I'm just someone selling lemonade

Maybe... (though it's interrrestingk you vud get plenty of ozzer flavour but no more zpezific name). But zere is enough vagueness arround your rrole to make me uneasy. I haf a hunch zere is more to you zan it zeem, yes?

Am not convinzed elvis is town eizer, but at ze least ve haf more chance of confirrrming orrr catchink elvis out if elvis is scom, I zink.

Vote: caf19

[imaginality]

...nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii...

[imaginality]

Imaginality, your thoughts on kittens?

I am preferrink dogs. And alpacas of courrrz but zat goes vifout zayink.
I haf no ztrong feelinks about kitten, one vay orr ozzer.

I would like to know what everyone thinks about the following things...

1. How many scum do you think are left?
2. Which is more likely amongst us, a serial killer or a protown vig that had unfortunate aim on night 1?
3. Is a mass claim a good idea at this point in the game?

1. I am vif Kmd on zis; 3 scum/ 1 lyncher, 1 zurvivor (both zomvhat neutral rrroles) / 7 town to me seems rrreasonable. Vich implies vun scum left. Vif each night two kills, ve zhud not be rulink out SK, but I can definitely be seeingk vig makink zose kills.

So, vun scum or vun SK (most likely). Vun scum

and

vun SK zeems like too much (I am azzumink eifen bastard mod games are balanced, yes?).

2. Kills zeem like vuns a vig vud make but zat doesn't rule out SK (verraz more illogical kills vud rule out vig). I say 60-40 vig-SK.

3. Massclaim is I am also belief to be good idea. I am happy to claim in vhatefer rreason if majorrrity is in favour of massclaim.

[imaginality]

Alo, alo, sunt eu, Picasso
ti-am dat beep
si sunt voinic

[imaginality]

Zere is von thing I am interezted in knowink from everyvon: Vud joo be willink to allow Plom to decide vezzer she shood claim at her own dizcreshon?

Azzumink Plom still confirmed innozent is (i.e. no vun says zey rroleblocked Isacc night 1) zen yes, I am okay viz zis. (I vud only to hope, if it zeems ve can combine ze claimed rroles in orrder to brreak ze game for town, Plom vud claim if her role could help viz zat, yes?)

Olso, is everyvon happy to follow the claim order I soggested?

Yes.

It zeems only Kmd is beink against massclaim? Zo unlezz anyvun elz obyects to it or to ze order destrroctor prrroposes, I vill claim in my next (non-zinkink) post.

[imaginality]

Vrei sa pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi.

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi.

[imaginality]

Okay. Zo. Here iss my claim:



I am

a Rhrrromanian

, a yypsy vif a terrrrible zecret.

I am likingk ze zong I am zinking becoz it verry popular vif my countrryfolk.

I write like I am doink because for zom ztrrange rreason I efen haf Eastern Eurrropean acczent vhen I am typink, yes?

I haf a terrrible secret. I am afraid ze stereotypes about my people are true. Thiefery is a vay of life amongst us. I steal from somevun every night. Yust to keep in prractice. Don't vorry zoh, I vill to rreturn everyfing afterr ve haf killed ze scum.

Isaac, you vill get your sparkly pouch back... oh... you are dead. Okay, vell, I may as vell keep zat, zen.

I brrreadcrrrumbed zis verry vaguely:

I rerrread ze postz off Isacc'

s and man

, I ztill gettingk scommy veel vrom zem.

Wif hascow zilenced, I fought zere vas a good chance Isaac vaz The Zandman, scatterink dust in people's eyes to be making them to sleep. Howeffer vhen Isaac claimed veak doc Tinkerbell, zat alzo fitted vif my find of a sparkly pouch so I beliefed his explanazjon.

Tonight I also vent thieving. It is a hobby for my people. Like I say, it is our vay. So I haf zomthing else. But I vill not say vhat it is or who I took it vrom yust yet. After claims are all done I vill say.

Zo, I am a yypsy thief vif a penchant for bad music. But zat is not ze terrrible secret.

Ze terrrible secret is that I also haf an um... hmm... how can I be puttingk zis? A cravink for bl- ...ze irrresiztible desirre to zink my te- ...a, let us zay, a fondnesss for ze rrreddest of vines, ant my vardrobe leans heffily tovards black capes... mmm... zis is not easy admittingk zis, many people haf bad opinions about zis but I hope you vill understand...

Vat's zat? No! I'm

not

a goth! Is not as bad as zat! I am only a vampyr! Much more betterer! Unlike goths, ve vampyrs are practically human. Yust vif longer teef.

I know, I know. Is not ze length of your teeth, is vere you put zem zat counts (pardon ze pun), yes? Vell, I haf tried to be a rrresponsible vampyr. A modern vampyr. I harrbor no grrrudges to your ancestors for zeir stakes and zeir burning torches and zere garlic (and haha! zat vas yust a myth ve put out anyhow! Many's ze time I've sneaked easily into a young maiden's boudoir becoz zhe fout zat a strring of garlic vud be enough to prrotect her vrom my evi- ummm... zorry, gettink off track here...) - ze point is zat I am a frriendly member of zis town yust as much as you, and ve can all live together peacefully, yes?

Zo, because I had been given no clue vhatzoefer as to vhat effect - if any - my bites vud haf, ze first night I bit two people. Vun vas hascow who I thought vas maybe scum. So if my bites are bad, no vorries. Ze secont vas SlySly because if he vas telling truth, he should be invincible anyhow, yes? I bit two so zat if vun vas nightkilled I vud still hopevully haf an idea vhat my powers do.

I do not zink my bite is vhat caused hascow to be silent yesterday. Because I bit him again last night. And zis time he can talk.

My best guess is zat my bites haf no effect and zat ze mod put it in my role to screw wiz me (and I guess if zere are any vatchers and trackers out zere, wif zem too). I assure you hascow and SlySly, I only took a little nibble! And cows and zazqvatches haf more blut zan humans anyhow, yes!

Zo from my experiments on my

lab rats

fellow townies, it appears zat me bitink people even twice does not kill zem, and has had no ozzer effect zat I can see. If hascow or SlySly know ozzervise, please say. If not, zen please rregard my likink for bluuuuudddddd as a mere foible, a qvirk, an eccentrrrizity zat in no vay affects ze game. After all zis is ze 21st zentury, ve do not kill vampyr any more, yes?

My thieffery is on ze other hand a useful pro-town skill for confirming claims to zom extent. And my melodic singink and liltink acczent bring yoy and happiness to all of us, yes?

So zis is who I am. A Rrrromanian in more vays zan vun.

A

vagabond vif an annoyink accent and irrrritating tunes

happy yypsy ssinger.
A

sneaky thief

skilled inveztigator.
A

soulless crrreature of ze night

dark and pazzionate lover vif smoulderring, hypnotic eyes and long glintink teef.

I vin wif ze town. And only wif ze town.

So put down zose sharpened ztakes, and thrrow avay zose crucifixes, and let's find ze scum.

[imaginality]

Te sun, sã-ti spun, ce simt, acum
Alo, iubirea mea sunt eu, fericirea

Alo, alo, sunt iarasi eu, Picasso
ti-am dat beep si sunt voinic
Dar sã stii, nu-ti cer nimic

[imaginality]

I'll bite.

lol


I bit hascow again because I vasn't sure vhat my bites do and in case it turned out zey had a bad effect (e.g. if people bitten died 1 night after beingk bitten, or zum ozzer veird mechanic), I vanted to limit ze damage. I could haf bit you again but I thought as zazqvatch you might be immune.

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

Ze firrst time, yes, I chose to bite him bekoz I vas a zplash more zuzpizoz of him zan of ozzers. (Vas a bit more zuzpizoz of Isaac vhich is vhy I rrrobbed him.)

Last night, zuzpizion of hascow had lezzened but I vanted to bite him becoz if he vas silenced again it vud be stronk evidence zat it vas my bites doing it. And I did not vant to be bitink two people bekoz of ze pozibility zat if I bite two or more it is hrrrandom vhich is affected. And I did not vant to be silencingk anyvun anyhow. And if anyzing vorse happened I vanted to limit it razzer than go on a rrrampage of bluuuuddddlust.

So I yust bite him.

Also admit an element of zelf-prrrotection involved. I haf to bite at least vun person. But who knows if I might get shot if I try to bite mafia, or if I allerrgic to somevun? Hascow vas tasty and safe so I bit him to avoid risk of death by stake. (As I mentioned in my claim zough, my current belief as tsings stand iss zat ze vampyr sstuff iss all a vild bat chase vif no effect on ze game.

[imaginality]

Ma-ia
hii
Ma-ia
huu
Ma-ia
hoo
Ma-ia
haha

[imaginality]

For rrrobberry, I haf only vun target itch night. Firrst night my tarrget vas Isaac. Last night, I vill say who my tarrget vas vunz all claims arre done. As vhat I found may haf uzefulness to confirrm or contrrradict somvun.

As for vampyr attackerry, I

must

bite at list vun perzon, and

may

bite ozzer perzons if I vant to. (If I rrrefuse to bite anyvun, I bekom victim of deadly vampyr illness known as

modkillitis dammitus

.)

Firrst night, I bit hascow and SlySly. Lasst night I bit hascow.

Necks claim pleez... (I zink it's Kmd?)

[imaginality]

Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

Te sun, sã-ti spun, ce simt, acum
Alo, iubirea mea sunt eu, fericirea

[imaginality]

I vud verry verry muzjch like to know ze rrrest of your claim immediately.

[imaginality]

Alo, salut, sunt eu, un haiduc
si te rog, iubirea mea, primeste fericirea

Alo, alo, sunt eu, Picasso
ti-am dat beep
si sunt voinic
Dar sa stii, nu-ti cer nimic

[imaginality]

Hmm.

Lookink fruh zees claims and rrreveals, we haf fife claimed/known inveztigation rroles, of varyink degrizz of usefulishness, yes?

(italics = dead)

desv1 = cop

Plum = sort-of-tracker (knows if tarrrget kills someone)
imaginality = thief (rrrole-cop of sorts)
Kmd = cop (but insane or paranoid)
hascow = cattitude investigator (possibly irrrrelevant)


Ve also haf:

SlySly = invinzible (at least for X days/nights)
Glorkdes = vig + ?
Kmd = Gnome-hunter (pozzible rroleblocker)

Isaac = veak doc

hascow = tries to be makingk friends (perrrhaps had potential to be mason-lover vif EK?)
imaginality = vampyr

dahill - lyncher

caf - survivor

Plum's point about elvis suyezts ve haf firrrd scum, vhich arrrgues zecond killer is more likely vig razzer zan SK.

But.

I am zinkink...

Vif sssoo many investigatif rrroles, an invincible townie and ozzer usevul town powers, and beink bastard mod game, ve could haf an SK too.

I am zinkink zis, and ze reason I am zinkink zis?

I found a chesssboarrrd vhen I rrrobbed Glork-des last night.

Yes, I hear your undervhelmed zighs of apathy. You found a chezboarrd, zo vhat?

Vell, it ssseems to me, Tanya Baron vas not apparrrently ezpezially keen on chess.

But

zis

guy

likes

chess.

And please be notink, I zpezivikly found a

chessboard

, not a

chess set

, yes? Vhich I zink is anozzer small point tovards Glorkdes being zis guy, Alexander Pichushkin.


One lasst fing:

He lured his victims with the promise of alcohol and, after getting them drunk on vodka, he beat them to death and dumped their bodies in the park.

Vood joo loik som vodka?

I vud razzer not, fangs.

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

Fanks, Plum. Happy holidayz.

imaginality, vy on earth vud anyvon bredcrom SK? I do not know vat else joo are tryink to impy vith zat quote.

I mentioned it mosstly for humour value. Ze kvote itzelf vas maybe merely coinzidenz - but then again can imagine Glork as SK posting somethink like that -

not

to brrreadcrrrumb SK (as you say zat vud be dumb), yust as a yoke. After all hiz/your aczent is fairrly obviozly Russsian, zo offerrink vodka iss in no vay incriminating, but vud be amuzingk from his/your perrrzpectif.

Ze qvote is irrelevant zo, ze chessboard (and now your denial of it) and its contrrrast vif your rrole iss ze key here.

I am vonderink ebout how joo came to find ze informashon on Pichushkin.

Imaginality, how did you find the information on this Alexander Pichushkin guy.

It vas vairrrly vell-rreported at ze time, and I tend to remember zis sssort of fink.

I had no zuzpizion of Glorkdes beingk zis perzon at first, zo. Efen vhen I found a chesssboarrrd, meh, so vhat, vas pozzible he vas a famuz Russian chess player or zumfink. So I had to vait for rrroleclaim and see if it explained ze chessboard.

Zen he claimed. And I googled 'Fanya Baron' and vhat I found didn't zeem to fit vif ze chesssboard (given Isaac's pouch, I belief I find items rrelevant to ze player's charrracter, not yust rrrandom stuff, so I belief chessboard is also rrelevant to Glorkdes's rrole, razzer zan he yust happens to like chess).

And zat is vhen I rrremembered about zerrrial killer. To rremind myself and sshow all of you who I haf in mind, I googled "Russian chess killer" to get ze articles about him. (As you can see zere vas good media coverage of zis killer.)

I agrrree vif Kmd zat eizzer I am lyingk or Des is fake-claiming. I am happy to anzer vhatever qvestions vill help people decide vhere zey stand on zis.

Obviously I know vhere I stand, now zat destructor has flat-out denied a connection to chessboarrd (zere vas a rremainink pozibility it rrrelated to ze 'unclaimed parrt' of his rrrole, vhich is vhy I did not vote him in my prrrevious post, but now zat has been rruled out).

Vote: destructor

On a differrrent but imporrrtant qvestion: SlySly, you said you think a mislynch today could be 'dizaztrrus'. Vif your mention of gettink old, I am vunderink if zazqvatch vill die naturral death tonight maybe. Because zen I can see, mislynch townie = 5 left, Sly dies in ze night = 4 left, vig/SK kill + maf kill = 2 left and ve lose.

Is zat vhy a mizlynch vud be so bad? I apprreziate you may not be able to anzer zis dirrectly, but any hints vud be uzeful.

[imaginality]

Vrei sa pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei!
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei!

[imaginality]

imaginiality is town - he is havink sanity issues or ze items he receives are misleedink or random (bastard mod)

Isacc's pouch vas not mizleadink. It vas (in rretrrozpect) clearly rrrelated to hiss rrrole. Ze only vay ze chesssboarrd is clearrrly rrrelated to your rrrole is zat it could conceivably beink merely hint zat you Russian, yes? As chess is popular game in Russia.

However I belief it likely is morre dirrectly rrrole-rrelated, like Isacc's, and I happened to know zat it vud be verry fittink item to find if you arre zat Rrrussian ssserrrial killer.

1. I have never been in a game with more than one cop. However, this is a Mirth game and I am not saying Kmd is lying; it just bothers me.

I haf no prroblem to belief ve haf more zan vun cop if zey haf diverrrent sanities; ve do not know sanity of destructor-vershyunvun... multiple cops of varriuz sanities in zis game is not difficult to belief.

Real-life SK as game SK would be out of left field.

More zan Fanya Baron?

Des' claim accounts for lack of voting ability. Imaginality's theory does not.

I am sinking destructor may perrhaps haf a multiple rrrole somevhat like mine (I am Rrromanian so I am (i) a yypsy feef, (ii) alzo haf zis akzent, (iii) alzo like easterrn eurrropean pop, (iv) alzo a vampyr)

Maybe destructor is a zumvhat generric Rrrussian so is (i) communist and cannot vote, (ii) also haf to talk vif Rrrussian aczent, (iii) vhatefer ze ozzer part of his rrrole he hinted at iss, (iv) also is zis SK guy who vants to complete his chessboarrd of kills.

@ Sly - you didn't answer Imaginality's question. Did you not do so because you cannot? Also, did you even have a vote anywhere - you unvoted - ? Also, when you suggested the massclai, you said you had reason to believe we have only one scum left. Can you elaborate on why, and how strongly you believe this is the case?

I also am beink keen to zee vhat SlySly has to say about my and your qvestion. I sink ve cannot be zure zere is only vun scum left, and ssso zere is zerrrious rrrisk in hafink two killing rroles alive and zere is more rrreason to kill destructor today if you haf even yust some doubt about destructor, razzer zan rrrisk havink an SK and a scum still alive (if ve mislynch somevun else or no lynch).

Zis means I feel ze burrden is on destructor to convince us he is pro-town. As such I feel it vud be useful if he rrrevealss ze rremainink part of his rrole.

[imaginality]

Te sun, sã-ti spun, ce simt, acum
Alo, iubirea mea sunt eu, fericirea

Alo, alo, sunt iarasi eu, Picasso...

[imaginality]

As to vhezzer zere arre marrrkinks on it, I haf made inkwvireess about zis, but

ze mod's lips are closed tighter than an alpac- ...anyvay...

...I haf no furzer inforrrrmazyun about ze chessssboarrd.

Let me guess, imaginality, you saw elvis doing it and wanted to do it too? is that is?

[imaginality]

Vrei sa pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

Te sun, sã-ti spun, ce simt, acum...

[imaginality]

A few voughts.

On destructor claimink rrrest of his rrrole:

I am as I zed earrrlier, verrry much for zis. If it iss trrue ve haf only vun scum left, rrrevealingk rrest of your rrrole vill hopefully not be too much of a handicap for us.

On my meta:

I haf not been scum in any of my games on zis site so far - about 10 ozzer games I zink, all games completed azide from zis one. (Only 5% chanz of me not havink been scum yet in 10 games. Vhat haf mods got against me? lol)

So, I am not eefen beink zhore I eeefen

haf

a scum meta yet.


On destructor viewink me as town razzer zan OMGUSsing me as scom:

I sink zis is null tell: could be level-headed town player, could be SK hopink to play it cool and rrreazzure me I can back down frrom my attack on him vizout him vanting me lynched instead.

On zis:

It would seem that one of you and Destructor must be a lying scumbag of some sort.

Do you sink I am:

(a) lyink about findingk chesssboarrrd and alzo about findink pouch (in vhich case, I assssume you zink my breadcrumb about ze pouch ("...'s and man...") iss coinzidenz)

(b) lyink about findink chessboard but not about pouch (in vhich case, you accept I am feef but not zat i am prrro-town)

or

(c) tellink trrruth about chesssboarrd and pouch but strrretching to make chesssboarrd zeem like incrriminating evidence on destructor razzer zan yust a sign of his beink Russian (in vhich case, could I not haf claimed more incriminatingk evidence zan yust a chessboard?)

On who scum is if not destructor:

Kmd zeems a pozzibility; rroleblocker has been known to be scum role, and quick agrrement vif my case on destructor, if destructor is vig, vud make sense, hopink ve lynch destructor today and me tomorrow).


On ze chessboarrrd:

I vud haf thought if ze mod vas givingk me an item rrrelatingk to destructor's RRrrusssiannness, vodka vud be as likely. Or furr hat zingy. Chessboarrd I can see, but is not virrrst item I vud zink of. Howeffer as I mentioned, Isacc's pouch vas dirrectly rrrelated to his power/rrrole - so I zink zis chessboarrd is also ziknificant herre.


On zis:

2. My gut tells me that cow is scum not because of earlier suspicions but now because he is playing the role of my 'best friend'(in Alcoholic's Anon Mafia, Mirth was my 'best friend' and she was scum).

Seems like zere is rrroom vor mod-WIFOM herre, am not convinced zis is a good point against cow.

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

I haf not been scum in any of my games on zis site so far - about 10

ozzer

games I zink, all games completed

azide from zis one

. (Only 5% chanz of me not havink been scum yet in 10 games. Vhat haf mods got against me? lol)

10 games or 10

other

games?

I haf been in 10 games zat haf finizhyed. And zis one.

And what do you mean by "aside from this one"?

Pleesss rrread: "all games completed azide from zis one" - zis game is not completed.

Did you just scum claim?

No. I said I haf not been scum in any games on zis site so far, to save people time looking for a scum meta. I clarified zat ze ozzer games I haf played in are all completed only so zat it vud be clear I vas not talkink about ongoink games.

I am not scum in zis game eizzer. Vhich kinda goes vizout sayingk.

Zo, vas not a scumclaim, vas yust rrresponding to a comment or two about my meta. Trrryingk to be helpful...

[imaginality]

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

[imaginality]

If anyvon kills me at night, they vill die. There is a menshon that this may only apply with humans.

Zey vill die insstead off you or as vell as you?

[imaginality]

Alo, salut, sunt eu, un haiduc
si te rog, iubirea mea, primeste fericirea

Alo, alo, sunt eu, Picasso
ti-am dat beep
si sunt voinic
Dar sa stii, nu-ti cer nimic

[imaginality]

Unvote destructor; vote Kmd4390

Kmd's death proof claim should be tested immediately. If he is telling the truth, the lynch will fail and kmd can be removed from the lynch candidates for today.

QFT. I ezxschpect zis lynch to fail (Kmd vud haf to haf def visch to fake-claim zat), but zere is no downzide to checkingk his claim.


Re: destructor's unniytkillability claim. Zis zeems like it could vell be gud vay for mod to help balanze 3 scum + SK + 8 town.

If destructor is town and ve haf vun mafia left:

1 mafia goon (Darox)
1 mafia godvafer (elvis_knits)
1 mafia X (?)

vs

1 invinzible townie (SlySly at firrst, Kmd now)
1 cop (destructorv1, ssanity unknown)
1 thief (me)
1 likely rrroleblocker (Kmd)
1 veek doktor (Isacc)
1 trrrackerr-if-ze-trackerr's-target-makes-a-kill (or visits a corrrpse zumvun elze killed?) (Plum)
1 un-niytkillable vidge (destructor)
1 hascow (unclear vhat if anyting hiss rrrole does)
1 prro-town lyncher (dahill)

-1 (vun of ze above vud be mafia)

and

1 zurvifor (caf) (alzo werre-llama *shrrrug*)


Vhat do ozzers sink? Zat ssseems to me kinda a strrrong town. Two townies zat cannot be nightkilled, plus varrrioz ozzer power rroles?

Compare vif:

1 mafia goon (Darox)
1 mafia godfafer (elvis_knits)
1 mafia X (?)

and

1 un-niytkillable SK (destructor)

vs

1 invinzible townie (SlySly at firrst, Kmd now)
1 cop (destructorv1, ssanity unknown)
1 thief (me)
1 likely rrroleblocker (Kmd)
1 veek doktor (Isacc)
1 trrrackerr-if-ze-trackerr's-target-makes-a-kill (Plum)
1 hascow
1 prro-town lyncher (dahill)

-1 (vun of ze above vud be mafia)

and

1 zurvifor (caf)

[imaginality]

Vrei sa pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

[imaginality]

I did not claim to be unnightkillobe.

Oopz, yess, my miztake.

Replaze 'unniytkillable vig/SK' wif 'vig/SK who kills hiss killerr if he iss niyt-killed' in my pozt.


Zat's 4 votes on Kmd now?

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

Unvote Kmd4390; vote destructor

[imaginality]

Alo,
salut,
sunt eu,
un haiduc

si te rog,
iubirea mea,
primeste fericirea.

Alo, alo,
sunt eu,
Picasso

ti-am
dat beep
si sunt
voinic
Dar sa stii,
nu-ti cer
nimic

[imaginality]

Well, as a sasquatch, I am hard to find and kill. As far as specifics, there is a lot of information and conditions in my PM and it has taken me many reads to know exactly what I can and can't say about it. Throughout my postings, I have focused only on the points of my PM that dealt with the topics at hand. Since we were getting back to my full claim, I went and did a reread to see just exactly what I can say and I discovered that I really can't say anymore.

SlySly, you zed ssis earrrlier in game. Did anyzink in your rrrole PM rrrelate to vhat has apparrrently happened to Kmd or zis kind of ssing pozzibly happeningk?

[imaginality]

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

[imaginality]

If ve are

sssure

zere is only

vun SK or vun mafia

left, zen ve can lynch eizzer destructor orr me today and lynch ze ozzer tomorrrrow if need be, no prrroblem, yes? But if (as I ssink) zere is pozzibility of vun SK

and

vun mafia still alive, ve need to lynch SK today and zat is destructor. Ozzervise, ve rrisk hafink bove mafia and SK alive tomorrrow vif 4,3,or 2 players (dependingk on kills and vhether Sly dies vrom old age).

If ve lynch destructor, zen ve haf eizzer 4 or 3 players left tomorrrow, vif at most only vun mafia (as destructor is ze only pozzible SK).

So unless anyvun is strrrongly convinced I am mafia and destructor is town, I ssink he has to be ze lynch for today, yes?


And I vill finish vif kitten:

[imaginality]

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

[imaginality]

Your zenarrrio iss interrrestingk. It iss zerrtainly pozzible, and Plum's rrrole could be vun zat scum could claim. Howeffer, whoeffer ze rrremainink mafia is (if ve still haf vun), I still belief zat destrructor

has

to be today's lynch because of ze possibility of vun scum and vun SK rremainink.

My next song post vill be yust a filler vun zo zat I can speak strraightavay if/vhen I next haf somezink to be sayink, yes?

[imaginality]

Alo, alo, sunt eu, Picasso
ti-am dat beep
si sunt voinic
Dar sa stii, nu-ti cer nimic

[imaginality]

imaginality, I think if there is scum and SK left, it would be more important to lynch mafia today. Your opposite reasoning concerns me.

If ve did not

know

who vas SK zen yes, you vud haf a point. But, if zere is scum and SK left, ve know who SK is, it has to be destrructor. If ve try to guess scom and guess rrrrong, ve vill verrry likely lose. Better I sssink to lynch SK today unless (i) ve are zertain who mafia is or (ii) ve are zertain zere is no SK - I zink neizzer of zese conditions are true.

[imaginality]

Alo, alo, sunt eu, Picasso
ti-am dat beep
si sunt voinic
Dar sa stii, nu-ti cer nimic

[imaginality]

I zink it prrrreeeettty unlikely zat Kmd is scum. Zere vud haf to be vun flippink veird rrole/power for zat to be ze case (as prrrezumably if you vere killed earrrlier (and ver town), ve vud haf no chanze unlezz ze unlynchability ends vhen ze vig dies.

---
And efen if it somehow is ze case, it zeems to me ve could still vin if ve lynch you today:

Day 4 - 4 alive (assumingk scum kill zuczezzfully)
No-lynch
Day 5 - 3 alive (assumink kill)

It zeems vrom vhat SlySly has hinted at zat he is no long invinzible. Zat means SlySly vas unvincible for 2-and-a-bit days. So if it is ze same vor Kmd, he zhud become vinzible again, sometime durink Day 5. And zen ve can lynch him.
---

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha!

[imaginality]

SlySly: You verrr invizible for two days and two niyhts (if I am wrong about zis and you are also invinzible today, my math is off, but you zeem to have implied ozzervise). Zo I zink if Kmd is also invinzible for two days and two niyhts, zis takes us to day 5.

Even if my math is off, Kmd has less zan zero rrreason to claim his zazqvatchness as scum. Better vor him to yust keep qviet and get destrrructor lynched (if Kmd as scum verrr unlynchable but not unnightkillable), yes?

I vill post zum ttssoughts on ze ozzer players in next day or zo, Plum, but I haf not been focussed on zem ever zinz destrructor denied connection to chesssboarrrd. My conzerrn of SK + mafia ztill beink a pozzibility means I am convinced ve haf to lynch him today (as only SK candidate) razzer zan trrry to guess mafia today.

[imaginality]

Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

[imaginality]

I do: iff ve haf scum and SK left, zen (assumink two town players are killed) ve vud haf four players left vif vun scum and vun SK. And zey could agree vif easshh ozzer to haf a joint vin by forzing NL and killink ze ozzer two players.

I rrepeat. If ve haf only vun baddy left zen ve haf options. If zere iss a chanze of hafink scum and SK, ve must lynch SK (or guess rrright if ve try to lynch scum).

[imaginality]

Te sun, sã-ti spun, ce simt, acum
Alo, iubirea mea sunt eu, fericirea

Alo, alo, sunt iarasi eu, Picasso
ti-am dat beep si sunt voinic
Dar sã stii, nu-ti cer nimic

[imaginality]

Sly's plan (lynch cow, destructor shoots me, lynch destructor tomorrrrow

If zere is vun SK, no scum:

Sly's plan vurks.

If zere is vun scum, no SK:

Sly's plan vurks if scum is hascow or me.
If scum is Plum or Sly or Kmd, zis plan fails. (ve mizlynch, mizvig, mizlynch again)

If zere is vun scum and vun SK:

Zly's plan vurks if scum is hascow.

It fails if scum is Plum or Sly or Kmd.
It alzo fails if I am scum. (If destructor does not zhute me as agrrreed, he and I cud joint-vin.)

My plan (lynch destructor)

If zere is vun SK, no scum:

Ve vin.

If zere is vun scum, no SK:

Ve can still vin or still lose. Ve haf to lynjch scum tomorrrrrow (or NL and lynch scum ze next day).

If zere is vun scum and vun SK:

Ve can still vin or still lose. Ve haf to lynjch scum tomorrrrrow (or NL and lynch scum ze next day).


I prrrefer my plan. I vill only vote cow if it is eizzer zat or no-lynch.

[imaginality]

Ma-ia
hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Ma-ia
huuuuuuu
Ma-ia
hooooooo
Ma-ia
haaahaaa

Alo, salut, sunt eu, un haiduc
si te rog, iubirea mea, primeste fericirea

[imaginality]

Vell.

I vas rrrrroleblocked. I azzyume by Kmd, yes?

Kmd, arrre you ztill unlynczyjchable?

[imaginality]

Ma-ia huu

[imaginality]

He really needed to sober up. Alas,

someone

had other plans. After seeing has slip out of his shack quietly,

the stranger attacked

, whacking him over the head with a opossum. After making sure hascow was good an unconscious,

the assailant

dragged his limp and seemingly lifeless body off into a subterranean cave.

Vhy ze fang

are you votink me?

Last night I vas frrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreakink rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroleblocked! You zed sssso yourrrrrrrrrrrrzelf!

Sssssoooo.... how in ze name of Drrrracula can I haf made zis kill???

Kmd, unvote

now

beforrrre Plum has chanze to hammer (if she iss scum). And Plum if you are town, do not hammer.

[imaginality]

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

[imaginality]

Why were you able to post immediately after your singing post?

Zere are only thrrrree players left. I can post vifout vaiting vor intervening pozts now. (Ozzervise zis day vud be slow and painful, yes?)

Either a weak doc protected scum and lived or scum was roleblocked and performed the kill.

Or (vor ze sake of compleeetnezz), you are scum who vas unlynchjyable yezterday.

Maybe biting is a RB and Imaginality bit me allowing the kill to happen?

1. If biting is RB zen hascow vud not haf gained rrrresults vrom his night actions.
2. Rrroleblocker targeting rrrroleblocker = both blocked, no?
3. If I vas not rrroleblocked, claiming you rrroleblocked me = insta-lose for me - if you rrroleblocked anyvun else you vud know I vas lyingk.

Or maybe Isacc was blocked by one of you when he protected Plum?

Zis I am zinkingk must be ze case, zat Isacc vas blocked by sumvun (not nezzerarily vun of us). I vant to haf a look at zose posts of EK's zat sumvun (SlySly?) tsought impleeecated Plum.

Is it possible for Imaginality to have a role where he is untargetable at night?

See 3 above.

[imaginality]

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

[imaginality]

Kmd who did you invezztigate last night (as cop) and vhat vas ze rrresult?

Plum who did you tarrrget lazt night and vhat vas ze rrrresult?

[imaginality]

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

My result:

And I got a guilty on Cow last night. Surprise, surprise...

SSorrrry, missed that.

We need Plum's input ASAP btw.

Yess.


Alsso zis comment of ourrr beloved mod's zeems rrrelevant...

You could also give everyone a power role, they them they have some kind of night action that they *must* make and they can't self-target, but don't tell them what their power role is. And then sit back and watch the hilarity ensue.

I haf notized zat a larrrge number of ze rrroles here zeem to haf multiple powers and/or alignments vif vun usually beink appparrrently meeerely wild-goose-chase/amuzement value only power.

Ekkkszamples: caf19, elvis_knits, desglork, SlySly, hasdgfas, Isacc,

Ze exzepschuns zeem to be Darox, dahill and destructor1.

Anyhow, hascow's befrrrriendink power zeems to be genuine (zis is vhat I azzume bazed on SlySly flippink as beink a member of ze 'Bestest best friends of SlySly Society' vhich makes me zink his 'cop' rrrole may be nonsense/rrrandom. Parrrrticularly as it involves kittens.

It isss alzo interrestink zat your rrrrole ((parrranoid) cop + (rrroleblocking) gnome-liberrator) and my rrrole ((toothless?)vampyr + thief) both fit better vif zis multi-faceted rrrole theme zan Plum's does.


---

Okay, yust zaw Plum's post.

Re. Kmd

1. I zink Plum's suyyestion zat Kmd is a jailkeeper razzer zan rrroleblocker fits verrry vell. Zis explains vhy hascow didn't recruit EK and vhy Plum could not tarrrget me.

2. It alzo explains vhy Isacc did not die - EK vas jailed zat night.


Re. Hascow

1. I ssink it is alzo pozzible hascow vas a mason-rrrecrruiter, does not haf to be cult rrrecruiter. But, is pozzible.


Re. my actions:

1. I tarrrgeted hascow to rob (zimilar thoughts to Kmd zat you ver more likely tarrget zan cow)

2. I tarrrgeted Kmd to bite (he vas unlynchjyable and implied he vas unNKable, so on ze off-chanze my bite did anyzing bad he vas safest perrrson to bite)

3. Ze mezzage I rrrezieved vas pretty zimilar to yours. Sssimilar enough zat I think ze Kmd=jailer theory is very likely.

[imaginality]

Alo, alo, sunt iarasi eu, Picasso
ti-am dat beep si sunt voinic
Dar sã stii, nu-ti cer nimic

[imaginality]

Let me just add, zis game is an abzzolute smurfink mindsmurf.

Why thank you, imaginality, I love you too

[imaginality]

Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

Te sun,
sã-ti spun,
ce simt,
acum
Alo,
iubirea
mea sunt eu,
fericirea

Alo, alo, sunt iarasi eu, Picasso
ti-am dat beep si sunt voinic
Dar sã stii, nu-ti cer nimic

[imaginality]

Actually. Only 2 town aligned have flipped so far. And we are still playing, which means, at most we have a town of 4. A weak doc and a cop. If anything doesn't fit with that, it's your role.

Rrreally?
I sssee six town-aligned flips:

destructor
dahill1
caf19*
Isacc
SlySly**
hasdgfas**

*also vere-llama
** also member of BBFSSS

I ssink ze fact zey are listed in blue must count for zumthing, yes? If ze BBFSSS is a cult, I vud expect hascow to flip pink (as cult leader, thereforre in no vay town-aligned). He flipped blue and pink, vhich suyyests to me zat BBFSSS is not a cult. More likely a masonrry kinda tsink.

caf19 could vell be vins-vif-town-

or

-if-zurvives.
dahill1 could be vins-vif-town-

or

-if-lynches-target, or could be his tarrrget (zeeminkly you) is scum.

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

2. It alzo explains vhy Isacc did not die - EK vas jailed zat night.

Huh? Is the mindsmurf catching up to me? Because I don't know what you meant to say there.

Yep, I got zat wrrrong. Vor zum rrreason I vas thinkink Isacc targeted EK not you.

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

Zo. Here iss a new thought.

I must protect someone each night. If they are town, I protect. If they are scum, I die.

Vhat if 'scum' means

literrrally

scum

and scum

only

? And Plum is

not

scum but SK?

Zen ve haf:

N1 - scum no-kill (EK vas jailed), Plum kills, desglork kills
N2 - scum kill, Plum jailed, desglork kills
N3 - Plum kills

Zis is interrestink zenarrrio to me. Could pozzibly explain zum of ze qvestions...

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

Currrent sssummary of how I sseee ze pozzibeeelities:

1. Kmd4390 iss scum and yailkeeper

- pro: explains vhy Isacc did not die (Plum is town)
- pro: fits vif town lynzcher dahill1 havink Kmd as (zeeminkly) his tarrget
- con: niytkill choice (on ze faze of it, vud make more senze to kill Plum and yail me, orr vize verza, zan to kill hascow)
- qvestion: does it make zense to haf targeted his scumbuddy EK on niyt 1?


2. Plum iss SK and Isacc only died if he prrrotected mafia

- pro: explains vhy Isacc did not die
- pro: Plum's rrrole is (IMO) morrre likely scum rrrole (or fake-role) zan mine or Kmd
- con: 2 mafia + 2 SKs lezz uzual zan 3 mafia + 1 SK (mind you zis is baaasstard-mod game)


3. I am scum and my kill vent through dezpite me beink yailed lazt niyt.

- pro: explains vhy Isacc did not die (Plum is town)
- con: verrry rrrare for jailed scum to be able to kill
- qvestion: vud I as mafia get into 50/50 vif desglork yezterday?

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

[imaginality]

If that was the case Isacc would almost certainly not have phrased his results quite like this[...]

My point is zis is bastard-mod game, yes? I find it conzievable zat ze mod vud phrase zis rrole as "you die if you tarrrget scum" and yust sseee if ze player asks for clarrification or yust azzumes scum = all non-town-aligned players. In norrrmal game zis vud be bad, in bastarrrd-mod game is perrhaps a rrreasonable bit of mod-trrickery, yes?

I agrree zat Isacc himzelf clearrrly did ssink 'scum' = 'all non-town-aligned players'.

[imaginality]

Ma-
ia
hii
Ma-
ia
huu
Ma-
ia
hoo
Ma-
ia
haha

[imaginality]

Affter anozzer musingk, I am leanink tovards Plum as scum. Mainly bekoz, if Kmd is scum, vhy vud he rrrroleblock me (vell actually jail me, but he may haf fourt it only rrroleblocked me) if he vanted to get me lynchsshed today? Vhy not push for me to help him lynch Plum?

(I vas prrretty surre he vas town vhen ve couldn't lynch him yezterday, it's not like I zuzpected him more zan Plum.)

Or if he vanted to get me lynched, he could haf yust rrroleblocked SlySly, or hascow (if he zought he vas plain rrroleblocker and not jailer).


It kinda makes no zense to:

(a) rrroleblock me
(b) admit to rrroleblockingk me
(c) still push to get me lyncsshed over Plum

compared vif:

(a) rrroleblock me
(b) admit to rrroleblockingk me
(c) push to get Plum lynched

or:

(a) rrroleblock sumvun elz
(b) push to get me lynched


I am actually ztartink to ssink zat my hypoffeeezis (Isacc wrrrongly assumink zat 'scum' = 'all non-town', Plum beink SK) is likelier zan Kmd beink scum.

It cud efen haf said 'mafia' in Isacc's rrrole PM - at ze time ve claimed, it looked more likely ve had vigilante zan SK, zo he may haf assumed ve only had mafia to deal vif.

Edit: I yust looked back at Isacc's pozts; vrom my skim-through, it zeems post 1153 is ze firrrst time he consssiders pozzibility of ssecond anti-town faction:

Also, something I have re-looked at just recently. There were two kills last night. Maybe there is a Vig, but in the off-chance that there are two kills again, I'd rather lynch based on scumminess, not lynch based on policy, and frankly I don't feel Caf has been very scummy.

and zat vas vell affter his doc claim. So, I can belief Isacc vud make zat assssumpchsyun.


---

I haf no intenzshun to leap to vote yust yet zo. I haf no vish to misvote.

---


Vhichefer of you is scum, I still feel zat, vif all three of us agreeink I vas rrroleblocked last night, I am more in ze clear zan eizzer of you.

If you don't agree: can eizzer of you point me to

any

game in vhich a rrroleblocked and/or jailed scum player (veffer mafia or SK) vas still able to make a nightkill dezpite beink rrroleblocked/jailed?

[imaginality]

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Alo, salut, sunt eu, un haiduc
si te rog, iubirea mea, primeste fericirea

Alo, alo, sunt eu, Picasso
ti-am dat beep
si sunt voinic
Dar sa stii, nu-ti cer nimic

Vrei sa pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

Te sun, sã-ti spun, ce simt, acum
Alo, iubirea mea sunt eu, fericirea

Alo, alo, sunt iarasi eu, Picasso
ti-am dat beep si sunt voinic
Dar sã stii, nu-ti cer nimic

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Ma-ia hii
Ma-ia huu
Ma-ia hoo
Ma-ia haha

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei
Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei
Mi-amintesc de ochii tãi

[imaginality]

I am town-aligned. I vill play to my vin condition. I vill not betrrray ze town vhich haf velcomed me into zeir arrms, and necks. Zey deserrrve better zan zat.


Chance of vinning as town if I vote for Kmd4390 = 0
Chance of vinning as town I vote for you = >0 (you may be lyink SK)


Die, essessively-conzonanted alpaca-vannabe!

Vote: Plum

[imaginality]

My head hurts.

*applauds Mirth* - awesome flavour, utterly crazy and I loved my role!

Well done scum.

The final mindsmurf for me was me flipping vigilante - there I was thinking I was nobly playing to my win condition, when I could have gone with Plum's plan, then vidged her and won for town? Arrrghhh!

A zillion other questions spring to mind but for now I'm off to bathe my head in a bowl of anaesthetic.

[imaginality]

Did imaginality really have to wait for someone to post before he did? I didn't see anything implying that in his role pm.

He did not

I realised this sometime during day 1. But it was soon after seeing all the pressure destructor came under for not posting in German, and I decided to just carry on as I was - I thought if I changed my pattern it could well get me lynched!

I only broke it day 4 because of Kmd's vote on me. Man, all the stress that vote caused me thinking I was about to get mislynch, when town were already guaranteed to lose whatever happened...


By the way, was it pure coincidence that a couple of MD role discussion threads started talking about Romanian/gypsy roles literally within a few days or so of this game starting? Shows that Mirth is one step ahead of the curve...

Also when I first read about the Russian chessboard killer I thought he would be perfect for an SK role in a mafia game, so it was great to see him appear in this one.