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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
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SR: I want to give him a day
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
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Cakey seems uncomfortable shit posting, almost...
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
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In post 33, kraska77 wrote:yes pls shitpost mindhive we become a collective cloud of shitnessIn post 34, mhsmith0 wrote:People shit posting without voting frozen is NOTEDKraska: more shit posting please
Smith: shot posts and pushes cakey
Kraska: just stop
??? Talk about this progression kraska? Why get annoyed at me for two shit posts after you asked for more shit posts?Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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based on awkward hello postIn post 144, Nero Cain wrote:vote:Randomidget
gut sorta makes me lean scum and I wanted my first vote on scum.
or more than that?
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Wagoning nacho is fun, but wagoning blatant scum is even more fun
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
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SR: I want to give him a day
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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If everyone could vote the jester that'd be great. Give rb a nice easy win on day 1.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
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And this is a problem for you because ____?In post 162, Norvicodin wrote:
That's irrelevant. You just painted a target on your head for scum that might think there's more than one scum faction.In post 159, rb wrote:You realise I'm not actually jester, right?Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Nah, I'll WIFOM them into thinking real wolves would never be that blatant.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Wow, I truly learned so much in the last five minutes. Life-changing, really.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
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Because you had multiple posts where you were actively talking about why it was a bad idea. So either it's a problem for you or... what? you were just posturing?Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
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If you're curious about why he'd do something like that, why didn't you ask him why he'd do something like that? Your posts on the subject read more like:In post 172, Norvicodin wrote:rb doesn't strike me as a stupid person, so I was curious why he would do something like that.
"Hey dude that was a really stupid idea"
"No really, you're acting suicidally"
"Eh whatever all I need to know is I'm not voting you today"
You're representing that you had curiosity towards his motives, but what you've actually been saying does not appear to display the curiosity you're claiming. Nor does it really seem to draw any conclusion about his actions, other than "eh whatever, I'm not voting you today". So if the most meaningful conclusions was "not today's problem"...
1) What do you think his motivations behind his behavior were (since it seems that you've reached the important conclusion wrt your voting intentions)
2) What made you draw the "scum can sort you" conclusion in particular? Is it your opinion that he's scum and the other scum faction (if it exists) can (or would be likely to) kill him? Or do you think that his behavior seems towny, and thus would likely draw a bullet due to a town read?Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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In post 192, Norvicodin wrote:
This is me ignoring your questions by not ignoring your questions.In post 174, mhsmith0 wrote:1) What do you think his motivations behind his behavior were (since it seems that you've reached the important conclusion wrt your voting intentions)
2) What made you draw the "scum can sort you" conclusion in particular? Is it your opinion that he's scum and the other scum faction (if it exists) can (or would be likely to) kill him? Or do you think that his behavior seems towny, and thus would likely draw a bullet due to a town read?Spoiler: Spoilered By request
ftr, not ignoring my questions by answering my questions, instead of ignoring by not ignoring, is my traditionally preferred approach
Edit : GIF was spoilered by request. ~FALast edited by Frozen Angel on Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?-
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oh sorry sometimes I forget. I don't have edit access but
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?-
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?-
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on the upside it's a page bottom so easily ignored. but yeah sorry about thatShowhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?-
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Do you have a ballpark estimate of when you're going to start contributing? Or is this actually intended to pass for analysis?
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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The theory behind it being ____?In post 210, kraska77 wrote:OfcourseShowhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
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I want to see what she has to say when she's actually participating, but yeah she's an early for real scum lean.In post 213, rb wrote:lol kraska is scumShowhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Except that wasn't a dumb question. Your vote was RVS-level; it's reasonable to question whether it was real or just RVS silliness.
I'd actually venture that both of House's questions (170 and 209) were fine; my issue there is more that I'd actually expect more (or any) questions from him to rb given their engagement.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Sure.In post 221, Norvicodin wrote:
Fuck that.In post 217, mhsmith0 wrote:
I want to see what she has to say when she's actually participating, but yeah she's an early for real scum lean.In post 213, rb wrote:lol kraska is scum
VOTE: kraska
Blood for the blood gods!
VOTE: kraska
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Who's dw?In post 220, rb wrote:and dw, we have 2 conftown now so we just have to lynch from the other...30Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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That's supposed to be singular. Khorne will not be happy...
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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I'm trying to figure out whether Nero is actually terrible enough to needlessly out both himself and kraska as real masons when his mason buddy was at something like L-12. I tentatively say no.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Anyway I'm going to bed. Night all.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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It is a tentative read so far but feel like Rach could be scum she isn't invested enough to make real reads and just drops off a lazy kts town read and that means she isn't genuinely trying to sort shit out.In post 611, RachMarie wrote:It is a tentative read so far but feel like KTS could be town he is already invested enough to get ticked off at the hyperposters and that means he is genuinely trying to sort shit out.
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
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lol that's hilarious.
@diamond: were not policying d1 for being a player you don't like. Make a scum case on her if you want her gone.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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Policying someone for specific behavior (especially if meaningfully wolf indicative) is acceptable. Policying because you don't like them isn't. Diamonds comment might be the latter.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
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It's kts though. He did the same dumb shit in open 646. Null on him.In post 680, DiamondSentinel wrote:Anyone who claims that they are obvtown but doesn't even try to prove it should be shot and killed immediately in my book.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
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Why DS as strong town? I'm starting to catch, and his stuff around 730 or so was super unimpressive. What makes him (presumably) your #1 town read?In post 1005, Expedience wrote:I finished reading the thread.
Town: DS, mhsmith0, Cerberus, Yumeslot
Slight town: The Ascended Masters, rb, Road Kamelot, Vifam, SirCakez
Null: everyone else including Killthestory, Vedith, Skrub
Slight scum: Drixx, Nosferatu, kraska, SpyreX
Scum: Maker of Zanos, RachMarie
Why Zanos as wolf instead of just bad? I've played with both Ircher and BTD6_Maker when they were town, and frankly "Mislynch Bait Twins" would be a better name for their hydra. I feel like if they were wolves it'd be pretty obvious (with the caveat that they might be getting decent coaching in day-chat, if that's something on the table in this game), and at this point, I don't see it being especially obvious.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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@Diamond:
Why did this piss you off? Like, I could see this as being a bit annoying, but why is it suddenly horrible or rage-inducing for one head of a hydra to fake signing as the other head? This just seems like an over-reaction to the post unless there's meaningful shared history here that I'm missing.In post 733, DiamondSentinel wrote:
Ok, first off, this pissed me off, exceptionally much, even for Titus and Yume.In post 647, Yume wrote:We thought the rest of you would respect me more if we did it, so she worked in the background while I posted her opinions along with mine in public.
DS: Let's policy yumeIn post 734, DiamondSentinel wrote:Spoiler:
All 3 of these posts REALLY look like scum defending scumbuddies.
But again, thi sis less than 2 days in.
Me: It sounds like you just don't like her, you need to actually bother making a case here
DS: That's how scum-buddies would defend each other
Like, how does that even make sense? You think that if I was teammates with Yume my objection would be that you didn't have a case, even though said objection would be easy to overcome if you actually, you know, bothered to make a case?
Umm... how? What about that post do you think is non-fakeable, or game-solving, or in any way meaningfully town-indicative?In post 735, DiamondSentinel wrote:
Very very townie post.In post 571, Norvicodin wrote:
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To clarify: I'm not going to apologize in this game for our of game behavior.
Using out of game behavior as an excuse to lynch me would be mighty scummy.
So, "judge, jury, and executioner", do what you think you should.
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These two posts are two minutes apart. Presumably the re-read had been done before the set of posts (including the ones before this pair) started going, but it's a weird transition between these two posts. Like, the first one is maybe a bit annoyed, and reads as being game-solving, making an alignment read on Skrub based on RK's behavior. And the second just seems like a sudden over the top transition. Does anyone have history with DS? Does normally he make these weird emotional hops quickly when town? When I read it, it seems fake to me, but this may just be a function of a weird playstyle on his end.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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??? I read his reactions as being more "lol this wagon is stupid" (which seems fairly null to me). What in particular makes you think there's anger in his posts about being wagoned, and that said anger is necessarily villagery?In post 813, The Ascended Masters wrote:Skrub seems fine; his reaction to getting voted is INCENSED TOWNIE RAGE.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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^nevermind, I see nacho talking about this in 887 and others. I'd say "INCENSED TOWNIE RAGE" is overstated, and I still don't especially see his reaction as strongly villagery (null in my book), but I guess nacho's interpretation isn't necessarily BS.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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DS is a mild scum read for me at this point. Not a huge priority sort but I don't see the obv!town there. MoZ just seems bad rather than obv!wolf to me, and the IMO self-vote continues along that vein. Some of that may simply be me being over-sensitive to that after watching Ranger pull similar shit as town in open 642 (including the shitty self-vote), but I'm starting to come around the idea that shit like that actually does come more often from town, even though it never ever ever should. In this case, it's conceivable that they're scum/SK giving up, but it's also plausible that they're town giving up. I know Ircher (who I think was making those posts) is bugged by being a lynchbait type, so I can reasonably see him getting pissy and pulling a stunt like that out of frustration at being wagoned. Obviously it could be him pulling a scam and faking it, but I just don't see why it's wolf-indicative instead of essentially null. I'd still much rather wagon RachMarie at this point.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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@ Rach...
This is the sort of thing that normally comes with something better than "their ISO sucks". What about their ISO sucks? You seem to not really be able to explain what exactly you're finding voteable.
You talk a bit about it in
butIn post 923, RachMarie wrote:@ Nacho
1. The way they are moving their vote around looks like they are looking for a good wagon, not looking for scumz
2. The freaky color vote thing looked like they were trying to appear to be town and trolling, it did not feel genuine the way Nero's trolling does,
3. The way they threw shade on KTS but did not vote for him seems scummy AF
1) you aren't addressing the possibility that moving their vote around might be part of a process to look for a good wolf wagon, or for that matter, separating them from anyone else's vote hopping.
2) The "freaky color vote thing" ( http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p8421517 ) seems like the epitome of a playstyle thing; calling it AI just seems bizarre;
3) I presume you mean this
but I fail to see how this is AI. It's essentially expressing a mild scum read on the slot; failing to vote for what is presented as a mild scum read (and one that is essentially paranoia-driven) is not in and of itself suspiciousIn post 889, Maker_of_Zanos wrote:...
This totally not troll KTS we're seeing here. He's actually being useful for once, but I fear that is because he is scum.....
~Zanos ~Zanos ~Zanos
Frankly, none of those seem like particularly good reasons for voting them; to me it seems a lot more like you're going survivalistic and looking for an easy target to try and buy another day off of.
What about the vote sucks? Surely if you find my vote on you to be itself vote-worthy, you can actually explain what about it "sucks". I personally thought it to be a solid vote, mainly for the content (wolf-reading you becuase of the lazy read you made) but I also liked the snarky way I turned around your language relating to KTS. Nothing about it seems off, and it seems like you just want to shade it as somehow being a bad vote without actually doing the work to demonstrate that it's actually a bad vote.In post 920, RachMarie wrote:
adding smith to my scum pile as well this pinged my scumdar this vote on me sucks, plus like MoZ she keeps flipping her vote around.In post 620, mhsmith0 wrote:
It is a tentative read so far but feel like Rach could be scum she isn't invested enough to make real reads and just drops off a lazy kts town read and that means she isn't genuinely trying to sort shit out.In post 611, RachMarie wrote:It is a tentative read so far but feel like KTS could be town he is already invested enough to get ticked off at the hyperposters and that means he is genuinely trying to sort shit out.
VOTE: rachmarie
I also don't see your point about vote-hopping (you were my 4th vote, with my 1st being a joke vote on the mod and the 2nd being near-RVS level). Nor do I see how vote-hopping is itself wolf-indicative, unless you think that I'm just lazily bandwagoning (which would be weird considering that I was the first vote on you), or that something else in particular about my vote movement seems wolfy. It seems like you're struggling to make a case on why your pushes make sense, which to me suggests that they're probably just made up.
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TLDR version: vote Rach.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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That was @RBIn post 1090, MathBlade wrote:I don't need the TLDR I am going to read Sunday morning. Go to D&D then Read Sunday.
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i.e. he was bitching about my wall post so I gave him the TLDR version.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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I'd actually go a bit further and say it's actively reaching and possibly a misrep.In post 1460, Expedience wrote:
You're disagreeing purely based on theory, how could that possibly be alignment indicative? SpyreX and pisskop have also expressed similar ideasIn post 1457, davesaz wrote:
With the common thread being most (all?) of the people on the list have low post counts, this is aIn post 1382, The Ascended Masters wrote:In the meantime while I'm dreaming of ending this day within a reasonable amount of time, I'd like to hear fancy reads (if you have special reasons for killing them or you'd argue their wagon if it popped up) on these people:
1. randomidget
5. Space Dandy [Hydra of Varsoon and Shiro]
6. DrippingGoofball
7. Albert B. Rampage
8. Road Kamelot
11. Mirhawk
14. Klingoncelt
15. Vedith
18. grapes
20. SirCakez
23. PeregrineV
24. davesaz
29. Nosferatu
32. Giovanni il Pellegrinoscumpoint of view.
The #1 reason to lynch is obv scum. If you don't have obv scum, the #2 reason is information.
Any strategy that removes people from the game without giving information is a scum strategy.
Where is the scum motivation in that?
Please try and catch up with as much of the thread as you can.
TAM: I want reads and info on our lurkers, and if you have a sexy case for lurking one of them cool.
Davesaz: you're trying to remove people without giving info.
It's just such a bizarre interpretation of the original post, as if he's trying to shoehorn a scum read in there instead of actually taking the time and energy to understand the point. Davesaz is now a scum read for me.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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The point is TAM wasn't saying that they wanted to lynch without info. If anything, they're looking for more info by expanding the pool of people who are being talked about. I don't see how you can reasonably arrive at the interpretation of their post that you offered, which suggests it was a strategic read instead of an honest one.In post 1474, davesaz wrote:Fuck off.
Lynching without information is scum motivated.
Period.
I always have a reason for everything I post.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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am slanking. will check in tomorrow night.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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or if I need game-related content: maybe next time don't lynch a known lynchbait 3 days into a 2 week day phase game? (and yes there was too much crap on the thread on D1, but the solution is to post less crap, not ram through a quick lynch). I don't even know who's wolfy on that wagon (didn't bother re-reading overnight), but that thing was lazy as fuck. I don't have a great sense of Ircher's wolf range, but bitching about being scum read in a way that does nothing to defray suspicions is well within his villager range. And I'm quite curious how many people here have played with him often enough that they ought to be aware of this.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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Why should there be a PV wagon? Like, PV lurks and is pretty useless as either alignment (see: Wake's role madness), and he just said the sort of stupid thing that got the Ircher/BTD hydra lynched as lynchbait. Is there a case on PV beyond that? I mean, as lurky as he's been (the mod has more than 3x his posts which is hilarious), he's not the low poster of the game. Per activity summary, he's at 18 posts, you're at 7, varsoon/shiro is at 4, random is at 13, and nos is at 14. Drixx is also at 12, but the hydra had >50 posts before House outed. So unless there's more to a PV read than "let's lynch the lurky lurker who's lurking like usual", that seems like a null slot, not a obvious wagon. What am I missing?In post 2383, DrippingGoofball wrote:
There is no PereV wagon???In post 2382, DiamondSentinel wrote:
Yes... That's what you have done literally every game I've been in with you. That makes COMPLETE SENSE.In post 2376, PeregrineV wrote:
Just looked that one over. I think my goal was to strategically lurk to draw scumreads on my and push for my (ineffectual) lynch.In post 2373, DiamondSentinel wrote:I wouldn't be opposed to a KTS lynch. You help me get more people, and I'll gladly join that wagon.
PEdit: Metal Gear Solid V Mafia. You, me, T-Bone, and somebody else were all the scum team and we literally led lynches on you 3 days in order to give us the win, since you were unkillable.
Currently, I'm neither scum nor unkillable nor lurking.
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At some point PV will need to be sorted. My point is that DGB's "why isn't there a PV wagon right now" bit was weird given that PV's doing what he seemingly always does (not to mention that DGB is lurking even harder than PV).
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@kraska: why didn't you claim PGO on D1, given that this was a large theme with potentially a bunch of investigatives or other visiting town PR's?Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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Or you can get PV to get PGO'd while vigging you this time lolShowhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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Hi kts!Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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Does dgb normally lurk like this? Because my sense is her lurking is different from normal while pvs isn't, and if lurking really is her main issue w PV, that seems bizarre to call the kettle black.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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Strange thing to say here. Why not see what he says first and then go from there?In post 2609, Cerberus v666 wrote:I think the first thing to establish is do we believe Varsoon when he says this was accidental?Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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Why? You think Cerb is bussing Dandy here?Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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So "this" was the inactivity? I thought you were talking about the role knowledge in that post.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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It was more that Panzerjager was voting Dandy and then calling for your lynch tomorrow. So unless they thought you're both scum together (or maybe different scum teams?) it seemed like a strange thing to say.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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