The real folk blues [Canceled]

[Frozen Angel]

Spike : Hey, Jet, did you know that there are three things that I particularly hate?
Jet : Really?
Spike : Kids... animals... and women with attitudes...
Jet : Oh?
Spike : So tell me, Jet, why do we have all three of them neatly gathered in our ship?

Vote Count 2.37

Nosferatu (11): mhsmith0 , The Ascended Masters , SpyreX , RachMarie , Vaxkiller , Cerberus v666 , Aristophanes , Expedience , PeregrineV , davesaz , Varsoon
The Ascended Masters (8): Nero Cain , Vedith , SirCakez , Panzerjager , Skrub , DiamondSentinel , Albert B. Rampage , pisskop
Skrub (4): Nosferatu , Mirhawk , randomidget , kraska77
RachMarie (1): MathBlade
kraska77 (1): Radical Rat
Expedience (1): Klingoncelt
Aristophanes (1): Killthestory

Not Voting (1): Drixx

With 28 players alive it takes 15 votes to lynch.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2016-11-04 21:10:00)

[mhsmith0]

Can we not just hammer already?

I think we're a few votes away, and at any rate a pre-hammer claim would be preferable. Not like the day is about to end and we need to turbo hammer.

[RachMarie]

unless someone else voted after var, there is still 4 more votes to go to hammer Nos, and I am not sure how many to hammer Nacho and none of the other wagons are anywhere near a lynch.

Uh yeah I believe we have like 2 or 3 days still so no reason to not follow procedure and give intent to hammer after someone is at L-1.

[Aristophanes]

Can we not just hammer already?

I think we're a few votes away, and at any rate a pre-hammer claim would be preferable. Not like the day is about to end and we need to turbo hammer.

True, but a claim will just make a deadline scramble. I can see it coming.

[Aristophanes]

unless someone else voted after var, there is still 4 more votes to go to hammer Nos, and I am not sure how many to hammer Nacho and none of the other wagons are anywhere near a lynch.

Uh yeah I believe we have like 2 or 3 days still so no reason to not follow procedure and give intent to hammer after someone is at L-1.

Oh shit, Rach is scum!

Lynching this tomorrow.

[Expedience]

unless someone else voted after var, there is still 4 more votes to go to hammer Nos, and I am not sure how many to hammer Nacho and none of the other wagons are anywhere near a lynch.

Uh yeah I believe we have like 2 or 3 days still so no reason to not follow procedure and give intent to hammer after someone is at L-1.

Oh shit, Rach is scum!

Lynching this tomorrow.

I agree, but that post seems really null.

What did you find scummy?

[mhsmith0]

Or with a decent claim, we could even lynch Rach today!

[Aristophanes]

Or with a decent claim, we could even lynch Rach today!

I'm in!

@Expedience, all I can say atm is ~reasons~ which is something I hate using as evidence, but oh well.

[RachMarie]

huh? my point is we should follow procedure and give intent to claim because we have the time to do so. Only time when you can't give that time is if you are so close to deadline you risk a NL?

Are you trying for a derp hammer Ari?

[Expedience]

huh? my point is we should follow procedure and give intent to claim because we have the time to do so. Only time when you can't give that time is if you are so close to deadline you risk a NL?

Are you trying for a derp hammer Ari?

Well

now

she's scumposting.

I would, mhsmith, but there's 2 days until deadline

[RachMarie]

seriously guys you are weird seeing hammering as scummy

[mhsmith0]

yeah and nos has been sufficiently useless that I'm fine with her dying. but if she has a decent claim, then I'm fine seeing if we can get rach to swing instead. 2 days ought ot be plenty of time.

[Aristophanes]

huh? my point is we should follow procedure and give intent to claim because we have the time to do so. Only time when you can't give that time is if you are so close to deadline you risk a NL?

Are you trying for a derp hammer Ari?

Well

now

she's scumposting.

I would, mhsmith, but there's 2 days until deadline

I support this statement

[RachMarie]

It is clear most of you have not played with me often enough or you would know I always prefer a lynch over a NL early on and see it as bad juju.

That I am not fond of people derp hammering without giving intent.

That I have even been known to give intent as early as 2 or 3 days before DL,

That I like holding the hammer.

That has been true since my first game on site when I hammered the IC Ray on D1.

[Aristophanes]

I know all of this. I still think u scum.

[MathBlade]

It is clear most of you have not played with me often enough or you would know I always prefer a lynch over a NL early on and see it as bad juju.

That I am not fond of people derp hammering without giving intent.

That I have even been known to give intent as early as 2 or 3 days before DL,

That I like holding the hammer.

That has been true since my first game on site when I hammered the IC Ray on D1.

Hammering is seen as scummy because it ends the day. I disagree with that and site meta in general.

I believe you believe this about yourself and could probably come up with many different types of examples of it. The question becomes not that you do it which I whole heartedly believe but why you felt you had to justify it. So why?

[Cerberus v666]

unless someone else voted after var, there is still 4 more votes to go to hammer Nos, and I am not sure how many to hammer Nacho and none of the other wagons are anywhere near a lynch.

Uh yeah I believe we have like 2 or 3 days still so no reason to not follow procedure and give intent to hammer after someone is at L-1.

Oh shit, Rach is scum!

Lynching this tomorrow.

Please explain the difference between the post you quoted here, and the one below (which was made immediately prior to the quoted post.

Can we not just hammer already?

I think we're a few votes away, and at any rate a pre-hammer claim would be preferable. Not like the day is about to end and we need to turbo hammer.

[RachMarie]

@ Math that was to Ari and smith who then jumped on my statement like this is a scum slip, which made no sense to me. It was not logical.

I have never heard of anyone saying that you should declare intent to hammer as scummy before?

[Aristophanes]

Hammering is seen as scummy because it ends the day. I disagree with that and site meta in general.

I also disagree. Hammering is a necessity. I've been calling for a hammer for a week. That's not why Rach is scummy.

unless someone else voted after var, there is still 4 more votes to go to hammer Nos, and I am not sure how many to hammer Nacho and none of the other wagons are anywhere near a lynch.

Uh yeah I believe we have like 2 or 3 days still so no reason to not follow procedure and give intent to hammer after someone is at L-1.

Oh shit, Rach is scum!

Lynching this tomorrow.

Please explain the difference between the post you quoted here, and the one below (which was made immediately prior to the quoted post.

Can we not just hammer already?

I think we're a few votes away, and at any rate a pre-hammer claim would be preferable. Not like the day is about to end and we need to turbo hammer.

Smith is worried about getting a claim. Rach is worried about getting intent. Very big difference! And her "2-3 days left, no need to rush" thing is just awkward as she does indeed proclaim intent with a great amount of time left on a regular basis. Why is she okay with taking it slow and right to deadline here when as town she has no issue pushing for a hammer with lots of time left? It's just so off from her town play.

[RachMarie]

No you misunderstood, I meant we still had 2 to 3 days so we can still push for an intent to hammer

not just quick hammer without intent.

[Aristophanes]

No you misunderstood, I meant we still had 2 to 3 days so we can still push for an intent to hammer

not just quick hammer without intent.

I'll revisit your Iso after the night happens.

[Mirhawk]

Yeah this is another dodge. Sorry for not being around, today will be the day, for real this time.

Masters is okay I guess, though I was never so much getting a scum vibe from them so much as a distinct lack of a town vibe. Have there been any developments in the reasons for voting them or is it the same as before?

[Mirhawk]

And wait, we're voting nos?

Seriously? Ugh I hate lurker lynches, he should be shot with a vig, not lynched.

[Mirhawk]

This stinks like compromise, gross.

We'd be better off lynching masters and shooting nos.

Or skrub, I haven't read the intervening pages yet but I'm sure he never stopped being scum.

[PJ.]

This stinks like compromise, gross.

We'd be better off lynching masters and shooting nos.

Or skrub, I haven't read the intervening pages yet but I'm sure he never stopped being scum.

Then take your vote off the dead wagon.