The real folk blues [Canceled]

[Road Kamelot]

from the "Dont fucking talk about ongoing games" thread:
"OKAY: "Zoraster is alive in 4 games and is posting in those games, but he hasn't posted here in 3 days."
NOT OKAY: "Zoraster is alive in 4 games where he's posting lengthy posts. <The violation here is mentioning that the posts are LONG. This is a substantive statement.>
OKAY: "I'm alive in 3 games, and I'm having trouble keeping up with all of them."
NOT OKAY: "I'm in LYLO in a game, so that's taking a lot of my time." <The violation here is mentioning that you're in LYLO. This is a substantive statement.>"

I dont break the rules, not my style
My statement about grapes falls under the first example

[rb]

ur an example

[Road Kamelot]

Variables man variables

Are you currently being assailed by enough drunk feral cats to affect your posting
Should i call the police
Im worried man

[Skrub]

from the "Dont fucking talk about ongoing games" thread:
"OKAY: "Zoraster is alive in 4 games and is posting in those games, but he hasn't posted here in 3 days."
NOT OKAY: "Zoraster is alive in 4 games where he's posting lengthy posts. <The violation here is mentioning that the posts are LONG. This is a substantive statement.>
OKAY: "I'm alive in 3 games, and I'm having trouble keeping up with all of them."
NOT OKAY: "I'm in LYLO in a game, so that's taking a lot of my time." <The violation here is mentioning that you're in LYLO. This is a substantive statement.>"

I dont break the rules, not my style
My statement about grapes falls under the first example

I always thought that you could say "this person is still posting on the site" but you couldn't say "this person is posting in other games". Good to know.

[Expedience]

no it isn't.

townhunting is easily more important than scumhunting.
esp in large games.

townblocs are deadly, prs want to direct NAs, and peoole benefi way more from talking to a person they trust.


on the flip side anchoring your opinions keeps you from changing for no reason, and makes us aware of your logic and psych.




why dont you share your townreads. no wai even an intermediate player would justify not giving townreads by calling them useless and still claim to be solving the game

I disagree with you but I don't care to argue with you.

I gave a list in 1005, dude.

And reading my ISO, I actually did talk about my townreads at certain points. I don't know where you got this from or how it's even relevant.

[davesaz]

I removed the color so that I can actually read them. Without doing that, very little chance.

Spoiler: Reads

Confirmed Town

(From my perspective) (98%-100% Confidence)
Maker of Zanos  (100%) - Role PM

Likely Town

(85%-97% Confidence)

Leaning Town

(60%-84% Confidence)
Killthestory (+75%) - With KTS, it mainly cones down to a gutread and his posts makes me feel he's town this game.

Null

(0% - 30% Confidence; No/Very Weak Read)
Spyrex (+10%) - Ascended Masters brought up some good points against my "case" earlier. I have reconsidered my read and while they havent done anything I'd called really town indicative, an unbiased view reveals that they haven't really done too much in terms of scum actions either.
SirCakez (0%) - Cannot compute; maybe my other head has an opinion here (?)

Neutral

(31%-59% Confidence; Mixed Read)
Scrub (+50%) - Feels like townie frustration concerning his wagon. I would argue (possibly biasedly) that his vote switch onto us wasn't really good but likely from frustration and confirmation bias.
Diamond (-40%) - His logical reasoning has been pretty bad this game, but I wonder if thats always the case. I don't have extensive meta, so my read here isn't final or even very strong.

Leaning Scum

(60%-75% Confidence)

Likely Scum

(76%-100% Confidence)

Summary of everyone I did an ISO read for.
~Zanos

[Frozen Angel]

Anna : He had a lot of guys out looking for you. He was convinced your still alive, said he could feel it. No one could talk him out of it...

Vote Count 1.17

Maker_of_Zanos (9): RachMarie , The Ascended Masters , SpyreX , Expedience , rb , Skrub , Killthestory , DiamondSentinel , SirCakez
Skrub (4): grapes , Drixx , Vedith , Cerberus v666
Expedience (3): Nosferatu , DrippingGoofball , Road Kamelot
RachMarie (3): Klingoncelt , mhsmith0 , Vifam
Drixx (2): Nero Cain , pisskop
DiamondSentinel (1): Albert B. Rampage
Albert B. Rampage (1): Panzerjager
Nosferatu (1): Giovanni il Pellegrino
Vifam (1): MathBlade
SpyreX (1): kraska77

Not Voting (6): randomidget , Space Dandy , Mirhawk , PeregrineV , davesaz , Maker_of_Zanos

With 32 players alive it takes 17 votes to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2016-10-29 06:10:00)

Note: Skrub is V/LA.

[davesaz]

In the meantime while I'm dreaming of ending this day within a reasonable amount of time, I'd like to hear fancy reads (if you have special reasons for killing them or you'd argue their wagon if it popped up) on these people:

1. randomidget
5. Space Dandy [Hydra of Varsoon and Shiro]
6. DrippingGoofball
7. Albert B. Rampage
8. Road Kamelot
11. Mirhawk
14. Klingoncelt
15. Vedith
18. grapes
20. SirCakez
23. PeregrineV
24. davesaz
29. Nosferatu
32. Giovanni il Pellegrino

With the common thread being most (all?) of the people on the list have low post counts, this is a

scum

point of view.
The #1 reason to lynch is obv scum. If you don't have obv scum, the #2 reason is information.
Any strategy that removes people from the game without giving information is a scum strategy.

[Expedience]

Ah Cakes ok nvm grapes is posting in other games and not here so
Sure, lurking is an accurate statement, could be scum
Expedience tell me. why do your last two posts suck so bad dude-o

pedit: last two posts not including most recent

can't answer not a question

pisskop preach ^^^^^^

Expedience i voted cause it was a wagon i didnt hate but i specifically dont like their recent posts and am now happy to stay.

I'm not going to be lynched, probably ever.

Why aren't you voting Maker of Zanos, what's your read on them? You haven't even mentioned them at all.

People are trying to consolidate and you're just voting a shit vanity wagon with like 2 residue votes.

[kraska77]

Murdercock's a nice word
kraska could you do me a solid and help me find where Diamonds drive to lynch me went? shit flared up like a firecracker but i think he must have forgotten about it or something idk

It's kuribos word, I borrowed it
Didn't even know he wanted to lynch you...I've been skipping his posts
I'll look at his iso after breakfast

This post was so horrible it made me shudder.

Your face is horrible

[Expedience]

In the meantime while I'm dreaming of ending this day within a reasonable amount of time, I'd like to hear fancy reads (if you have special reasons for killing them or you'd argue their wagon if it popped up) on these people:

1. randomidget
5. Space Dandy [Hydra of Varsoon and Shiro]
6. DrippingGoofball
7. Albert B. Rampage
8. Road Kamelot
11. Mirhawk
14. Klingoncelt
15. Vedith
18. grapes
20. SirCakez
23. PeregrineV
24. davesaz
29. Nosferatu
32. Giovanni il Pellegrino

With the common thread being most (all?) of the people on the list have low post counts, this is a

scum

point of view.
The #1 reason to lynch is obv scum. If you don't have obv scum, the #2 reason is information.
Any strategy that removes people from the game without giving information is a scum strategy.

You're disagreeing purely based on theory, how could that possibly be alignment indicative? SpyreX and pisskop have also expressed similar ideas

Where is the scum motivation in that?

Please try and catch up with as much of the thread as you can.

[Expedience]

kraska could you do me a solid and help me find where Diamonds drive to lynch me went?

see, this is not town at all.

[Road Kamelot]

Wait do you really only have two votes left? Fuck that this is why i asked for a votecount
Zanos is eh, id lynch it. Depending on the count I might switch but i gotta dig deeper

pedit: its jokes my bruv s'my way of asking kraska her opinion on possible Sentinel scum lmao

UNVOTE:
good point on davesaz, damn do i hate when someone calls me scum bc we disagree on maf theory

[Frozen Angel]

Hey mod, I know you're asleep, but PV hasn't even posted. Can you give him a double prod since he can't even be bothered to play the game after confirming? Also, I get that he's V/LA, but this happens literally

every

game

The first prod will go out later today. PV is always VLA during weekends though!

[rb]

I've expressed the same idea a few times as well.

I also don't really think 'info' lynching is a thing that helps town. just vote scum or people who're not even contributing, as they're more likely to be scum. voting an active slot that's likely to be town for 'info' is crap

[SpyreX]

1457 wins some kind of award.
I've never heard of protect the lurkaderps they are a special flower.
And informational lynches are a pox like reaction tests and hydras

[rb]

let's lynch spyrex for info

[mhsmith0]

In the meantime while I'm dreaming of ending this day within a reasonable amount of time, I'd like to hear fancy reads (if you have special reasons for killing them or you'd argue their wagon if it popped up) on these people:

1. randomidget
5. Space Dandy [Hydra of Varsoon and Shiro]
6. DrippingGoofball
7. Albert B. Rampage
8. Road Kamelot
11. Mirhawk
14. Klingoncelt
15. Vedith
18. grapes
20. SirCakez
23. PeregrineV
24. davesaz
29. Nosferatu
32. Giovanni il Pellegrino

With the common thread being most (all?) of the people on the list have low post counts, this is a

scum

point of view.
The #1 reason to lynch is obv scum. If you don't have obv scum, the #2 reason is information.
Any strategy that removes people from the game without giving information is a scum strategy.

You're disagreeing purely based on theory, how could that possibly be alignment indicative? SpyreX and pisskop have also expressed similar ideas

Where is the scum motivation in that?

Please try and catch up with as much of the thread as you can.

I'd actually go a bit further and say it's actively reaching and possibly a misrep.

TAM: I want reads and info on our lurkers, and if you have a sexy case for lurking one of them cool.
Davesaz: you're trying to remove people without giving info.

It's just such a bizarre interpretation of the original post, as if he's trying to shoehorn a scum read in there instead of actually taking the time and energy to understand the point. Davesaz is now a scum read for me.

[Road Kamelot]

^^^^ 100000% would rather lynch a no or bad-contribution slot over one that offers 'information'
especially when no one analyzes the freaking wagon after the player is lynched
PLus a lynch for information is useless to analyze in the first place because its not motivated by finding scum as a first priority

Hydras are awesome tho its so great to catch a scum hydra as the towny head tries to protect the head that keeps scumposting

[SpyreX]

I even offered that pretty much so now I'm not scum just a troll maan doin troll stuff and definitely not trying hard enough to get you aholes on this wagon

Pedit damnit that was for rb my timing ruined

[Klingoncelt]

rachmarie is being usual lost/busy rachmarie...the votes and cases on her are wanting and i dont see why she should be lynched over everyone else today
im not sold on maker of zanos being scum. also their wagon seemed to pop up to take heat off skrub or drixx or whoever it was that was being wagoned i dont really remember
diamond is pissing everyone off as usual and making everyone want to take him out of the game asap

Rach is acting different. She's been sick, that could account for it, maybe. It's not likely that she'll be run up today, but I'm going to be keeping an eye on her.

UNVOTE:

Maker of Zanos and Skrub I don't know at all, so sorting them will take a bit.

I'm not sold on Drixx or Diamond being Town.

[davesaz]

A wagon I can finally agree with!

VOTE: Maker_of_Zanos

I've looked at your posts after this point and noticed something interesting.
Can you explain why you agree with this wagon?

[Expedience]

Wait do you really only have two votes left? Fuck that this is why i asked for a votecount
Zanos is eh, id lynch it. Depending on the count I might switch but i gotta dig deeper

pedit: its jokes my bruv s'my way of asking kraska her opinion on possible Sentinel scum lmao

UNVOTE:
good point on davesaz, damn do i hate when someone calls me scum bc we disagree on maf theory

That's not a reason to unvote me, you don't just change your (presumably strongest) scumread suddenly after I say something you agree with.

You're looking for excuses to back off now that I responded negatively towards your vote, but I'm not going to back off.

[Frozen Angel]

Aristophanes replaces Giovanni il Pellegrino; Effective immediately!

[davesaz]

Fuck off.
Lynching without information is scum motivated.
Period.
I always have a reason for everything I post.