The real folk blues [Canceled]

pisskop · Post Post #3925 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:03 am

In post 3917, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 3915, The Ascended Masters wrote:Who should I not be willing to work with?
What lynches do you want today?
Expedience. Rachmarie. Aristophanes.

I more than okay with these.

pisskop · Post Post #3926 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:04 am

In post 3916, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 3889, pisskop wrote:I trust I can read nos. I dont trust you.

but to answer why I think nos is more town that not -Nos said he wasnt going to read, nos has made no pretensions about pretending to read or promising to read, and nos had a very upfront dealing with me when we talked. He didnt avoid what a a serious request guises as a jestful prod and his proddodges have been platyful.

In short, his meta agrees with him being town, his attiuide is town, and his reaction to your shotfest is town.
How exactly does refusing to read the game look Town to you? If he doesn't care about the game, he should replace out. Since he's still here, evidently he DOES care, just... Not enough to read?

Of course, it also doesn't make a whole lot of sense for scum to not be reading, but calling that a towntell is really strange to me.

Its the person, not the actions.

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #3927 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:05 am

randomidget - kill
MathBlade - town
kraska77 - townlean
Varsoon - kill
Vaxkiller - kill
Albert B. Rampage - townlean
Radical Rat - kill
DiamondSentinel - town
Mirhawk - kill
Nero Cain - town
SpyreX - town
Klingoncelt - kill
Vedith - kill
Expedience - townlean
RachMarie - town
SirCakez - kill
Skrub - town
PeregrineV - townlean
davesaz - town
pisskop - town
Panzerjager - town
mhsmith0 - kill
Drixx - town
Nosferatu - kill
Killthestory - town
Cerberus v666 - town
Aristophanes - town

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #3928 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:05 am

In post 3926, pisskop wrote:Its the person, not the actions.

What about Nosferatu refusing to read makes him town?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #3929 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:06 am

Jet Black: I'm Jet Black, 36 years old. I'm often told I don't look 36, but you shouldn't judge people based on appearances... or on how much hair they have.

Vote Count 2.32Nosferatu (9): mhsmith0 , The Ascended Masters , SpyreX , RachMarie , Vaxkiller , Cerberus v666 , Aristophanes , Expedience , PeregrineV
The Ascended Masters (9): Nero Cain , Vedith , SirCakez , Panzerjager , davesaz , Skrub , DiamondSentinel , Albert B. Rampage , pisskop
Skrub (4): Nosferatu , Mirhawk , randomidget , kraska77
kraska77 (3): MathBlade , Varsoon , Radical Rat
SpyreX (1): Killthestory
Expedience (1): Klingoncelt

Not Voting (1): Drixx

With 28 players alive it takes 15 votes to lynch.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2016-11-04 21:10:00)

DiamondSentinel · Post Post #3930 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:08 am

In post 3927, The Ascended Masters wrote:randomidget - kill
MathBlade - town
kraska77 - townlean
Varsoon - kill
Vaxkiller - kill
Albert B. Rampage - townlean
Radical Rat - kill
DiamondSentinel - town
Mirhawk - kill
Nero Cain - town
SpyreX - town
Klingoncelt - kill
Vedith - kill
Expedience - townlean
RachMarie - town
SirCakez - kill
Skrub - town
PeregrineV - townlean
davesaz - town
pisskop - town
Panzerjager - town
mhsmith0 - kill
Drixx - town
Nosferatu - kill
Killthestory - town
Cerberus v666 - town
Aristophanes - town

Ok, the fact that you have over a third of the playerlist as kill is not a good sign, TAM...

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #3931 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:11 am

Cerberus, my approach to you yesterday was less because I was scumreading you and more trying to get you to see that our approaches worked very well together for early game.

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #3932 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:11 am

In post 3930, DiamondSentinel wrote:Ok, the fact that you have over a third of the playerlist as kill is not a good sign, TAM...

How many scum are you suspecting?

DiamondSentinel · Post Post #3933 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:15 am

In post 3932, The Ascended Masters wrote:
In post 3930, DiamondSentinel wrote:Ok, the fact that you have over a third of the playerlist as kill is not a good sign, TAM...
How many scum are you suspecting?

This is just looking at the list of living players, so take that as you will, but right now, I've got about 7 or 8 who I deem scum to null!scum.

DiamondSentinel · Post Post #3934 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:15 am

But if you want how many I suspect, I can go into a lot of setup spec. But nobody likes it when I do that.

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #3935 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:16 am

So I'm scumreading or nullreading around 2 more people than you are.
Can you explain to me why that's a bad thing? Should I have townreads that I don't have?

DiamondSentinel · Post Post #3936 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:21 am

In post 3935, The Ascended Masters wrote:So I'm scumreading or nullreading around 2 more people than you are.
Can you explain to me why that's a bad thing? Should I have townreads that I don't have?

Well, I have more null reads than you. I tend to keep null reads almost until LyLo. That's another worrisome thing. You're already separating people off who aren't really doing much into a town or kill category. That's the biggest thing: Your strong opinions on people I find it nigh impossible to have opinions on.

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #3937 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:22 am

In post 3936, DiamondSentinel wrote:
In post 3935, The Ascended Masters wrote:So I'm scumreading or nullreading around 2 more people than you are.
Can you explain to me why that's a bad thing? Should I have townreads that I don't have?
Well, I have more null reads than you. I tend to keep null reads almost until LyLo. That's another worrisome thing. You're already separating people off who aren't really doing much into a town or kill category. That's the biggest thing: Your strong opinions on people I find it nigh impossible to have opinions on.

Kill category and null category are blended into each other.
What townreads are you uncomfortable with me having?

MathBlade · Post Post #3938 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:23 am

In post 3922, The Ascended Masters wrote:
In post 3919, MathBlade wrote:Course there is a problem scum won't bus and not enough people will take their mislynch options.

Vote Kraska.
Why is Nos a mislynch?

Because RachMarie is pushing him.

MathBlade · Post Post #3939 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:25 am

@Rach marie Even when you had no time you dropped reads. You aren't dropping reads now and instead are spending more time pushing me because I scum read you.

I don't need to try again you are just flailing scum.

Back to work I go.

Cerberus v666 · Post Post #3940 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:25 am

In post 3938, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3922, The Ascended Masters wrote:
In post 3919, MathBlade wrote:Course there is a problem scum won't bus and not enough people will take their mislynch options.

Vote Kraska.
Why is Nos a mislynch?
Because RachMarie is pushing him.

Yay preflip asociatives.

....

mhsmith0 · Post Post #3941 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:27 am

@nacho: according to your list I'm a likely wolf, but you're perfectly happy to sit on the nos wagon I started. What's your head space here? Bussing? Different wolf teams? V/w?

DiamondSentinel · Post Post #3942 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:32 am

I don't like that SirCakez read, but I suppose it's understandable. Definitely don't like that smith scumread and that KTS townread.

Those are the biggest 3 issues.

Cerberus v666 · Post Post #3943 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:42 am

In post 3941, mhsmith0 wrote:@nacho: according to your list I'm a likely wolf, but you're perfectly happy to sit on the nos wagon I started. What's your head space here? Bussing? Different wolf teams? V/w?

Technically, nacho said his kill list had both nulls and scum reads.

So really, what he gave us was a list of townreads.

SpyreX · Post Post #3944 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:50 am

In post 3927, The Ascended Masters wrote:randomidget - kill
MathBlade - town
kraska77 - townlean
Varsoon - kill
Vaxkiller - kill
Albert B. Rampage - townlean
Radical Rat - kill
DiamondSentinel - town
Mirhawk - kill
Nero Cain - town
SpyreX - town
Klingoncelt - kill
Vedith - kill
Expedience - townlean
RachMarie - town
SirCakez - kill
Skrub - town
PeregrineV - townlean
davesaz - town
pisskop - town
Panzerjager - town
mhsmith0 - kill
Drixx - town
Nosferatu - kill
Killthestory - town
Cerberus v666 - town
Aristophanes - town

Except maaaybe expedience i agree with evey town here. Maybe some kills id hesitate but the town be town

Expedience · Post Post #3945 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:09 am

In post 3849, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 3688, DiamondSentinel wrote:
In post 1709, Frozen Angel wrote:

Vote Count 1.21Maker_of_Zanos (17): RachMarie , The Ascended Masters , SpyreX , Expedience , rb , Skrub , Killthestory , DiamondSentinel , SirCakez , Road Kamelot , Panzerjager , Vifam , pisskop , Cerberus v666 , kraska77 , DrippingGoofball , grapes
[Lynch!]

DiamondSentinel (3): Albert B. Rampage , Vedith , davesaz
Skrub (1): Drixx
Drixx (1): Nero Cain
Expedience (1): Nosferatu
RachMarie (1): mhsmith0
Nosferatu (1): Aristophanes
Vifam (1): MathBlade

Not Voting (6): randomidget , Space Dandy , Mirhawk , PeregrineV , Maker_of_Zanos , Klingoncelt
... Let's use this one for our last VC, and then I'll start quoting actual posts.

grapes, DGB, kraska, and Cerb all hopped on since the last VC. So we disregard them. The last slots are really really NAI. I've seen lurker town and scum go for the final votes. Not going to bother dealing with those for now.

SirCakez, Road, and PJ look to be in pretty townie slots.

That's all I care to do with wagon analysis.

Are you fucking kidding?

You call that Vote Count Analysis?

No. Just no. That far exceeds the legal limit of suckage.

VOTE: DiamondSentinel

Nosferatu's ISO is pretty scummy. Stop making wagon speed arguments guys, they'll never be valid.

PJ. · Post Post #3946 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:29 am

In post 3816, Vaxkiller wrote:So you think he is just an apathetic townie?

I think it's 50/50.

Killthestory · Post Post #3947 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:35 am

i'm amply convinced that spyrex and nacho are town and am willing to sheep.

pk seems really town here, too.

Killthestory · Post Post #3948 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:35 am

VOTE: expedience

lets go

Expedience · Post Post #3949 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:43 am

Fight me child.