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Of course! That's why I put your name on the people I want to play with list.Thesp wrote:charter, have you missed me?
I was actually contemplating voting Bird, but you were a suitable option as well.Yosarian2 wrote:
It's all charter's fault.Thesp wrote: Yosarian2, why can't you tell the difference between the first post and the 44th post?
Not surprised Charter voted me, though. After all, Bird isn't in this game, Charter had to start off voting for me.
I willunvote, vote Xylbecause I don't know why he was answering Claus's question when it clearly was addressed to Thesp and because he seems to think that "late confirming scum" is a legit reason to vote someone, but only after he's random voted tajo. Doesn't add up at all. Can you explain these Xyl?-
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Please respond to the concerns of the people voting you instead of ignoring them and giving us this, because this said nothing. Why are you still clinging to Xyl's bad vote like this? It's quite clear we aren't going to get anything useful out of him anytime soon.BridgesAndBaloons wrote:^Thanks.
Yeah I know, bad logic, right? That's why I decided to vote for E_k instead, because she's my number 1 logic. Although, I don't like* Xyl because of his vote on Yosarian. Don't like the reasoning of "last to confirm."Yosarian2 wrote:That's...actually a really good point. Post 102 is really, really odd.
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Well, three people said you (BAB) were scummy, two more don't just seem to be bandwagon votes, and one does. You apparently don't have a clue why people are voting you, so you don't even care to find out? Are you just hoping suspicion on you is going to blow right over by pretending like no one is voting you?
I will elaborate on why I find you suspicious. In 102, you say you then realized that waiting to vote Elvis is stupid, but you didn't realize anything. Kmd questioned you on your Hos, and a whopping seven minutes after the Hos, you apparently had this epiphany. It's an overly convoluted way of leaving the Xyl wagon, why go through all that rather than saying 'I find Elvis more scummy'?
Another thing I didn't like was the 'Xyl wagon will continue without me' comment. What led you to think that by unvoting him, his wagon would continue?
More things I find questionable about your play:
I feel that your change in opinion from the stance you held in 92 and 102 was brought round solely by Kmd questioning you.
Your initial vote for Xyl came after post 66, and was cast with no reasons posted, but then after others voiced suspicion of Xyl, you cite post 66 as scummy. Not when you make your initial vote.
No. BAB was ignoring the votes on him. You acknowledged them but were going out of your way to be unhelpful.Xylthixlm wrote:Charter, did you just criticize BB for ignoring attacks while saying I'm a bad wagon because I'm ignoring attacks?-
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Well, I was more of asking to post something worth posting, like a response to votes on you, instead of posts like 148.BridgesAndBaloons wrote:What? You seem to be twisting the facts. In my previous post, I explained that no one posted their reasons, and so I couldn't respond to anything.
I don't find Elvis scummy. She hasn't ignored the votes on her either. She responded to accusations in post 137 (maybe others, didn't look hard). Why is my in particular staying off her wagon odd? Why should I have to join it?BAB wrote:I don't understand why you are not attacking Elvis. Elvis has almost as many votes as me, and she's been ignoring the votes on her. You staying off of her wagon is odd
It's not. It's how you left the Xyl wagon.BAB wrote:Another question: someone says something that makes me think and then I change my mind. How is this scummy?
I didn't say they are. I said that how you came back after Xyl had a wagon to repeat what others said and essentially shove legit reasons under your RVS vote was scummy.BAB wrote:How is this scummy? Unexplained votes are not scummy.
And, asking this again.charter wrote:Another thing I didn't like was the 'Xyl wagon will continue without me' comment. What led you to think that by unvoting him, his wagon would continue?-
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Sorry, I don't know why I thought your name was in Xyl's post. What does "charter is doing some heavy lifting" mean?inHimshallibe wrote:
To note, Xyl did not list me. Thesp is noted for agreeing with all this post. But, the fact does remain that I've not posted a ton.charter wrote:Shabba/inHimshallibe, why do you, less than a half hour after Xyl calls out people for lurking (including both of you), pop up to make empty posts?
What does this mean?inHim wrote:charter is doing some heavy lifting.
Late p.m. CST is a very usual time for me to check in.
And I didn't think that post was empty. : /
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You can't. I guess I expected you to try and figure out why you were getting so many votes.BridgesAndBaloons wrote:
You make no sense. How am I supposed to respond to an attack with no reasoning behind it?charter wrote: Well, I was more of asking to post something worth posting, like a response
to votes on you, instead of posts like 148.
I'm not sure it's necessarily scummy, but it's questionable that you try and further Xyl's wagon by unvoting.BAB wrote:cuz i think what he did was sort of scummy and I thought other people would vote him. Why is my (apparently wrong) assumption scummy?-
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Not even a good strawman, I gave multiple reasons I thought you were suspicious. To try and pretend like this is the only one isn't going to fool many people.BridgesAndBaloons wrote:
I just want to reiterate the fact that you're voting me for something that's not "necessarily scummy, but it's questionable."charter wrote:I'm not sure it's necessarily scummy, but it's questionable that you try and further Xyl's wagonunvoting.while
Now, if you thought I was scum because of my vote on E_K, that's a completely different story. That'd actually be something I could defend myself against. But there's no way for me to defend against "odd" "questionable" behavior. I just don't understand the wagon on me. I think Thesp is the only one who might have a good reason, and he's still withholding it.-
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My main reason for finding you suspicious was how you had this complex way of jumping off Xyl to go on Elvis, not the mere fact you did it. It looked like you did it just because Kmd pressured you. You can say you did have the revelation, but there's no way for us to verify that.BAB wrote:So, how is it a straw man if I was attacking your main reason to vote me?
Other things I find questionable (but not sure if it makes you someone's scumbuddy) was the unvote of Xyl but saying his wagon will continue without you, and your original vote for Xyl where you gave no reason, then after people cited post 66 as scummy, you just agreed with them. Once again, no way to verify if your vote was a random vote then you copied other's reasons underneath it or if it was there all along.
I think the rest of this was a difference in theory between us, I wouldn't have sat back and taken seven serious votes and not questioned why I was being voted, but it seems you would.BAB wrote:What are your other reasons for voting me? Please restate them if you have already explained them. Am I misinterpreting your argument? I don't mean to do that, so please correct me if I'm misinterpreting.-
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Do you think BAB is town or something? Why? Pretty much all you've done is take pot shots at those that are suspicious of him.zu_Faul wrote:
If Xyl dies, turns up scum and BAB is still alive, this would make a really good point against BAB (or the other way round). I am not too fond of it at the moment.charter wrote:
The main reason I'm suspicious of BAB is his manner of leaving of the Xyl wagon to join the Elvis one.zu_Faul wrote:Well charter, your reason was not very good in the first place, was it? That is what BAB was trying to say here.
I am up to date. I don't buy the BAB wagon anymore.
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I said you're taking pot shots at people who find BAB suspicious, not that you are doing it because they find BAB suspicious, but the only people on the receiving end of them are voting BAB (I would include Elvis with rofl and myself as well like post 106). They aren't attacks, they were little comments that leave a bad impression when read. I lump the Elvis one in because you give this hypothetical but it is not convincing at all.ZuFaul wrote:This is plainly wrong. I did not attack anyone because they were accusing BAB. I made a comment at rofl and one at you. I doubt those really qualify as "attacks".
Saying something like this is just wrong.
Why not?ZuFaul wrote:I am not sold on BAB's townieness, but I don't think she deserves the spotlight she is currently getting.-
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Well, Shabba just delivered another post without actually taking a stance on an issue in the game, without any semblance of scumhunting, and unsuprisingly her top two suspects are the top two vote earners. I am at a loss as to what to do about this.
This latest point against BAB about arguing that he could be buddies is pretty solid, I want to hear what he says. I also want to vote Shabba sooo bad.-
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Scumhunting normally involves voting or asking people questions to determine their alignment. You've done neither, just making comments on things, which is an easy route to take as scum.Shabba wrote:Charter, what is a semblance of scumhunting, then? I read through all the posts looking for things that I thought were telling, then I thought I pointed them out. I thought I took a stance...I will admit to being fairly new to the game, but I don't think that makes me completely naive. I wanted to see who would egg me on the most to vote either way, hoping it would be telling....
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The #1 is in reference to the first question you ask in 215. I forgot about that post when I said you weren't scumhunting, so I was wrong, I take that back (however, you should follow up on them). When I say take a stance, I mean vote someone or do something that actually shows what you think about someone. Naming the top two suspects and not actually committing to one looks really scummy to the rest of us, especially when those two seem unlikely to both be scum.-
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Can you tell me which players you think these are?zu_Faul wrote:
Because there are players who are actually doing scummy things.charter wrote:
Why not?ZuFaul wrote:I am not sold on BAB's townieness, but I don't think she deserves the spotlight she is currently getting.
IAUN at the beginning of 291 wrote:BaB wagon is well deserved for this:
rofl is one of the people pushing hardest against BAB, so how can you think the BAB wagon is deserved and want a claim from him AND vote for rofl? Why are you voting for him? This really doesn't make a bit of sense to me, it's like you're trying to join the BAB wagon, but you aren't actually doing it.IAUN at the end of 291 wrote:Unvote, Vote: roflcopter, but I totally support a BaB claim.
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Sorry for being away for so long, I kept putting off a reread
Vote Xyl
I think him and Thesp are scum together.
Xyl is probably scum.
Answering Claus's question directed at Thesp.
Loads of pointless posts and posts about the setup early on.
Waffles on the 4 scum or 5, EK or kmd debates (post 105)
376 is distancing himself from the mislynch.
Thesp
168 is bizarre, especially saying he appreciates Claus's close reading, after Claus says he's getting scummy vibes from Thesp.
474, doesn't even care about BAB's suspicions.
Posts 405 and 406 of Claus are probably the best I've seen upon rereading. Even better is Xyl's response in 413. It definately strengthens the connection between him and Thesp.
End of day one. Begin day two.
507, Where did your "I think Thesp is a good citizen" come from ZuFaul (other than left field)?
ZuFaul also hindered just about everything he could day one, which EK touched on.
524 is a good post by Ojanen
529, Xyl is totally scum.
534, Thesp has too many people he's willing to vote for, but he doesn't vote any. It looks to me like he doesn't want to pressure them or find out their alignment, just wait until a wagon forms, then try and lynch the easiest candidate.
549, Why did Xyl even make this post? He says absolutely nothing. I don't think he was being addressed either.
631, ANOTHER crappy bandwagon vote from Xyl. He just bandwagons when he can. He doesn't even try to figure out people's alignment.
673, looks like Xyl is setting himself up to vote for Ekim if it becomes convenient for him.
739, A completely useless vote from Xyl.
My scumspicions:
Xyl
Thesp
ZuFaul
I think Ekim is town. I don't understand why Ekim is being voted at all. It is clearly scumdriven. I don't like the Social wagon either, I think Yosarian's vote on it boils down to OMGUS because even if SC exaggerated his reasons for finding Yos suspicious, that's not enough to warrant a vote on him from Yos. I can comment on the other votes, but Yos's was the one I saw after I decided SC is town.
Page 31 has changed my entire perception so far. The points against VP make sense, but he has a lot of the people I find suspicious on his wagon. Now that I get to page 32, I see that I am right with my Xyl vote.
TL;DR of my scatterbrained post.
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Massive FOS. You come back to just unvote? No comment on the wagon? No comment on VP? Nothing? I had been thinking that kmd/elvis was town/town, but this is too ridiculous to ignore. Elvis gets added to my scumlist.elvis_knits wrote:Hmmm one page bandwagon goes L-1? That was awesome.
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Also Xyl, I didn't defend VP, I said I don't think he's scum. Also, that is miles off a chainsaw defense. Ok?-
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So you're not asking for a claim or anything? Are you still planning on voting him or what? Who is worrying you? Why? Come on...elvis_knits wrote:Well, I still believe what I said about VP in my last post where I voted him, but I don't want to quicklynch the guy.
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This is one of the biggest fluff posts I have ever seen. You need to state what you actually/supposedly think on all of these issues instead of saying "well, I think it could be this, but that also makes sense" When you unvoted, you said nothing about not wanting a lynch yet, it was only after I questioned you, so it seems to me like you were trying to save face (or revote if VP gets condemned) while "deciding". Also when you unvoted, I got the sense that the wagon growing that big and fast pleased you, but now that seems to have changed.elvis_knits wrote:I'm not trying to be difficult charter. I felt like I needed to unvote before I decided what I thought about everything, since VP went from nothing to L-1 in less than a day. If I'm being a bit indecisive it's because things happened so fast, and also I have some RL stuff going on.
I am not entirely sure the wagon is bad yet since I do think VP's original case on ekiM wasn't very strong, and also his iamausername case was different than mine and had points I didn't care for.
On the other hand, iamausername has seemed scummy to me too, and so have Mike and serial. They're all on the wagon. Plus Xyl, who votes for no reason, putting VP L-1, no less. So I'm not comfortable with any of them either. Username in particular worries me because he had problems with VP before, but had opted to vote rofl. Yet when there was VP support, he came right over. Sort of like if there hadn't been support, he wouldn't have gone for VP. Which is reactive rather than playing to his own conscience. I guess of the 4 I find suspicious on the wagon, iam and xyl are the most.
I feel like the last part describes you very well too, along with others who voted VP.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure voting you at this point would only be followed by kmd, and that's not going to accomplish anything, so it's Xyl or Thesp for me.
(yes I missed VP's claim, but he isn't scum, so he shouldn't be lynched)
Also, Pooky, you need to do something. Starting with putting down a serious vote and serious scumhunting or you're just going to be added to the scumgroup by default. IAUN, you also need to put down a vote on someone who can actually get votes, or start pushing your rofl case way harder, because right now you're just sitting on the sidelines (though not as bad as Pooky).
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No. People need to unvote VP and vote Xyl or Thesp. Thesp's VP vote was nothing but a bandwagon vote, and then 24 hours later, he's all of a sudden fine with a VP lynch? I doubt it. This is all after Thesp says he wants to vote VP, but agrees with VP's SC push (waffle much?) and doesn't commit to anywhere despite complaining that there's so many people that need voting. Later he says "VP needs to die". NOTHING SINCE THEN. Come on, how are people still letting Thesp get by without him giving reasons for his suspicions?
It's pretty obvious that VP is going to be a mislynch, so all those voting him need to switch their vote.-
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Ok...Xylthixlm wrote:
It's not obvious to me at all.charter wrote:It's pretty obvious that VP is going to be a mislynch, so all those voting him need to switch their vote.
Of course it would be too helpful to give your reasons for voting VP in the first place, or to give reasons you are so sure he's scum, or tell us who you actually think is scum and why. Maybe after that it will be obvious why VP will be a mislynch.-
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What the hell? This isn't how it works at all, unless you are saying that there are so many scummy things about him, there's no possible way he could be town. If that's the case, please list some of them to enlighten the rest of us.Xylthixlm wrote:I don't have any reason to think VP Baltar isnotscum.
That's an incredibly convenient list there. Top two current vote holders, silent person, and person who's voting you. Why are you suspicious of those four people?Right now I'd be reluctant to lynch... hmm... elvis, Ojanen, roflcopter, Yosarian2, zu_Faul, and maybe Thesp. I'd definitely be on a lynch of charter, ekiM, PookyTheMagicalBear, or VP Baltar. Everyone else is undecided.-
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Ok... Had you said that initially, I'd be pretty inclined to believe you, but instead of saying you were unsure on VP, you exclaimed glee that he had so many votes. I don't know why you would ask that question, I thought that your vote meant you were fine with a VP lynch, when you unvoted, I had no idea if you still wanted him lynched but didn't want to be in the votecount or what.Elvis wrote:My mind wasn't made up at that point. That's why I unvoted without voting anyone. I needed to think about it, and didn't want VP sitting at L-1 when I hadn't had time to discuss anything with him. My mind is more made up more after seeing VP's latest response to EkiM's case. I'm not as worried about VP as I was before.
Regardless, what part of unvoting made you think I wanted VP lynched?
Yes, it was hypocritical, but just because I wasn't here doesn't excuse others. They are guilty as well and I'm trying to figure out where they stand on people.Elvis wrote:Also I call BS on you calling other people out for not contributing enough, seeing as you haven't been here at all today until now.
Another Thesp-is-scum-ism! Why is he asking Yos when he would be fine voting for Yos?Thesp wrote:I'm good with a VP Baltar lynch. Yosarian2, what do you think?
This statement makes no sense and is scummy to boot. Why do you have to swoop down for a quickhammer? How are Yos and VP scumbuddies at all? Also scummy is the "when I get nightkilled" quip, which was probably thrown in there because you're scum, and can't get nightkilled.Xyl wrote:Well, I'm totally hammering VP Baltar if he gets to L-1. I just want to make sure that people know Yosarian2 is scum. He's suddenly stopped defending himself to avoid drawing extra attention when I get nightkilled.
Seriously, people need to unvote VP and vote Xyl. He is scum, VP is not.-
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That's not how this works, have you been going to Xylschool of nonexistant scumhunting? (joke) But seriously, I don't see how they are connected at all, can you enlighten me?Ojanen wrote:
What speaks against it?charter wrote:How are Yos and VP scumbuddies at all?
More Xyl votes. How can anyone think he looks town after him and Yos's back and forth? Xyl's Yos votes have been terrible, as have all of his votes. Xyl is scum! It is obvious.-
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If this isn't a confession of Xyl being scum, I don't know what is. He just gives up on Yos (he hasn't made any point either, by the way) to hop back on VP.Xylthixlm wrote:Fine, I guess I've made my point
unvote, vote VP Baltar
Don't forget that Yos is scum
VP is clearly town. I think I was wrong about ekiM before. Everyone I am suspicious of is voting for VP for terrible or nonexistent reasons and isn't even looking at ekiM. At all.
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I've already pointed out connections between Xyl and Thesp, combined with both of their play being questionable at best, and scumalicious at other times, and I'm pretty sure they are scumbuddies. As for the ekiM, too many people are preferring VP (and at times for terrible reasons) over ekiM, I really don't see a reason so many people are ignoring ekiM either, so it looks to me like they are trying to save him. Granted, that's a pretty far out there theory, and we should start by lynching Xyl, and working our way from there.-
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This is the classic 'you've caught me, but for bullshit reasons' giving up post.Xylthixlm wrote:Meh. Scum are Yos, VP Baltar, charter, and tajo. Lynch them next.
Oh, and many of the arguments against me are scummy bullshit, so take a look at who was attacking and who was defending, and how. Particularly vp vs ekim. Ekim's right there.
Charter's first post against me was chock full of bullshit too.
Little tip: town tend to think I'm ambiguous leaning town. Scum tend to think I'm incredibly scummy and an easy mislynch. It's not 100% but the pattern is there.-
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Because he is just giving up on his top suspect, without trying to convince anyone else that Yos is scum, to hop back on the easy target.ekim wrote:How does that point to Xyl being scum?
I was wrong to say your wagon was scumdriven, I don't know why I was thinking it.ekim wrote:Charter you said then that my wagon was clearly scum-driven. You think VP is town. You've barely mentioned or suspected KMD, or Ojanen, or Tajo. Who did you have in mind when you said that? Why did you not pursue them?
Well, most of why I find you suspicious is the people I think are scum all piled on VP and are ignoring you. It makes you look suspicious but at the same time, they could just be trying to lynch VP because they think it will be easier. That's why you're only a secondary suspect.ekim wrote:Could you summarise which points against me you think are valid? You haven't really commented on my play whatsoever, yet you've gone from thinking my wagon is scum driven, to me being part of your hypo-scumteam. This strikes me as odd.-
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Well, you just now responded to my post, which I made ten pages ago. Seems like you didn't care if I suspected you as long as you weren't about to be lynched, but now that you are, you're flailing. The putting votes in order was being useful. I said sort of scumhunting, but that was being generous probably.Xylthixlm wrote:
Apparently asking questions and giving opinions is not scumhunting, but putting votes in order is.charter wrote:Ironic that now that Xyl is at L-1 he wants to be helpful and sort of try and scumhunt. Too late I say.
Wow I never knew that. Thanks charter!
VP is obviously town. He didn't wait like Xyl has done until he was under fire to start doing something, he went from zero votes to L-1 in less than a page. I noticed he looked a little panicked, but other than that, no real change in his playstyle.-
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Where do you ask me questions? If it's the post where you quoted my case on you from ten pages ago, I didn't read that. If you actually want answers, I'll read it and answer, but if you're just going to poo poo my answers and call me scum some more, I won't bother.Xylthixlm wrote:I'm trying to figure out charter.
He ignores all the posts where I ask questions.
Pretty much. I tried asking you why you wanted to lynch certain people before, and after I played 20 questions, you gave me a load of garbage that amounted to "gut", which means nothing to me.He ignores all the posts where I say that someone is town, or scum.
I think I said one of your posts said absolutely nothing, I can explain if you want. Most of your posts dont have any explanation, and I've given up trying to find any from you, so yeah, I do.He ignores all the posts where I weigh in on an argument, or calls them "absolutely nothing" and asks why I posted.
Well no. You were being helpful, but still letting kmd do the scumhunting for you.But... when I put some votes in order, he says that I'm finally scumhunting.
This is obviously scum. I don't know why you try and pull this, it just makes you look worse.Xyl wrote:In your experience, who worries more about being lynched: town, or scum?-
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You voted someone who has said two words this game. Did you ask them any questions for them to answer?? Noooo. Did you give a reason for voting them? Nooo. Did you try and make anybody else see the same way as you? Nooo. Did that vote accomplish anything? Noooo. Was that vote completely useless? Yes it was.Xylthixlm wrote:charter wrote:Ironic that now that Xyl is at L-1 he wants to be helpful and sort of try and scumhunt. Too late I say.
Okay... so I'm finally being helpful. Which implies, I guess, that you think I haven't been helpful at all up until now.charter wrote:
Well no. You were being helpful, but still letting kmd do the scumhunting for you.But... when I put some votes in order, he says that I'm finally scumhunting.
On the other hand, when I vote Pooky (who has by any measure beencompletely useless), you call my vote... "completely useless".
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To look like you're doing something? Hell if I know. I know that if I were to have voted Pooky there, I would have asked him a bunch of questions and asked for others to vote Pooky so he had to answer them.Xylthixlm wrote:
If you had to take a guess, why do you think I voted Pooky? What are the possible reasons?charter wrote:You voted someone who has said two words this game. Did you ask them any questions for them to answer?? Noooo. Did you give a reason for voting them? Nooo. Did you try and make anybody else see the same way as you? Nooo.-
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I don't know what roles/info IAUN and rofl have, so I don't see why I should tell them how to play those roles. I'm pretty sure they are both competent and can figure out how best to divulge anything. I really hate when someone tries to play your role for you or has to have every single detail revealed immediately.elvis_knits wrote:
I still don't like charter.charter wrote:Vote tajo
I think kmd/tajo are scum. Tajo has escaped all scrutiny but does not look his normal town self, at all. I will try and elaborate later. KmdISguilty of failure to be town.
Tajo hasn't participated enough for my liking, but he seems town to me.
And charter's failure to give reasons is not a good sign.
And his failure to comment on current issues with iam/rofl is disturbing.
unvote kmd; vote charter
I said I am working on getting the reasons.-
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PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i think kmd/iam/baltar are nice picks for scum.
and charter.
but mostly because he's charter.
I find 1202 by ekiM to be the scummiest post of day three (which is what I'm comprehensively reading in this post). I don't think it's possible to cook up a bigger waffle than that post.ekiM 1214 wrote:I think iamausername is trying to tell us something.
unvote;