oh. is that why you killed him?In post 1243, Realeo wrote:No. It was ssbm kyouko
OPEN 663: STACK THE DECK (GAME OVER)
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Nah It wasn't the basis of the traitor readIn post 492, Alisae wrote:TB - Probably Town-
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In post 540, davesaz wrote:Just realized I've been reading but not posting.
In retrospect I think MariaR did indeed crumb traitor. Too late at night to dig further but I can vote at least.
VOTE: DesperadoIn post 644, davesaz wrote:I do not agree with the common assessment of AH's entrance. I think he ISO'd the people on the biggest wagon and posted a legitimate case on one of them as a form of catchup.In post 645, davesaz wrote:I still think Desperado would be the best lynch.
I don't know where you got that dave was pushing you all day as you say later; he just says you can be traitor and votes you: which he can do if he's mafia that doesn't buy into the honestly dumb traitor huntIn post 654, davesaz wrote:Unofficial VC
Antihuman ( 5 ) - (Gamma Emerald, Desperado, ThinkBig, Alisae, Superhans)
ThinkBig ( 2 ) - (Antihuman, Realeo)
Desperado ( 2 ) - (Dunnstral, davesaz)
Realeo ( 1 ) - (algebra)
Gamma Emerald (1) - ssbm_Kyouko
Not Voting (1) - Kop
8 hours remaining
I still have doubts about Antihuman being scum but it's in town's best interests to avoid a no-lynch. And I could be wrong...
VOTE: Antihuman
That should be L-1. Superhans' vote was not because ssbm_Kyouko had moved off.
He does nothing to push that and then votes the largest wagon - if he's scum it's rather unlucky that traitor died while he was set to coast pushing you-
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The kop thing to me looks less about a dumbtell and more like he was trying to back out of his read that didn't make sense (after getting called out). Also, I think last time I saw him lurking/doing nothing like this he was scum. With that said, he got wagoned super fast/hard so that's a little suspicious, but there's only 2 mafia so it's not cause for concern I guess
I noted that while he was throwing shade on TB there, he'sstillvoting gamma which itself isn't a good look as he doesn't seem to care to move his vote to who he's talking about either
I think TB is town, albeit awkward, I think there is scum pushing him; I think Alisae looks bad but I can see that's not happening, davesaz looks worse, and kop looks bad. Desperado's recent posting has me tilting my head and I feel like I should consider superhans more closely for scum
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It's more like the opposite, why Super over Dave?In post 1377, Desperado wrote:@ Dunn: Why Dave over Super at this point?-
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You know me voting dave doesn't indicate that I think Hans is town, though? Dave's just where I thought to go next, I'm wondering why it should be Hans instead. I guess to be fair I didn't explain why i was voting Dave, etiherIn post 1386, Desperado wrote:
I've already given my reasons for thinking Dave is town. Can you do the same for Hans?In post 1379, Dunnstral wrote:It's more like the opposite, why Super over Dave?
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If he's scum and it's likely for there to only be 2 prs why does he claim to roleblock the dead person when both other prs are outted instead of a random town
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This makes sense though, and is what I want a reply from Kop on the mostIn post 1390, Regfan wrote:His investigation choice of going for SSBM because he didn't push AH but then instantly voting Gamma today who was the leading pusher on AH shows a contradiction in thought process.-
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I was responding to what regfan was saying, wasn't assuming what scum would takeIn post 1397, Desperado wrote:@ Dunn: That would depend on how much power the scum took. You seem to be assuming that they didn't take away; why is that?-
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No, I was talking about if he was town there - seeing gamma as goon cop shouldn't cause him concern because the only situation where he 100% can't be goon cop from his point of view is if scum didn't take any powers - which he can't assume. Scum would only need to take 1 power for that to not be a couunterclaim, which isn't unreasonable to assumeIn post 1406, Desperado wrote:If Kop is scum he doesn't need to assume anything.-
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This argument is really bad/lazy; he's talking about Kop here, but I was voting that as well a while ago, up until the claim, and he's implying that he actually did anything for the kop wagon, which he didn't, he just hopped on at the end againIn post 1411, davesaz wrote:VT/
Dunn might be scum who realized I've got his partner dead in my sights.
I don't think it's a real thought process that he thinks I'm scum with Kop for voting him, if davesaz is scum here he's either setting up interactions with his buddy Kop, or he wants to lynch a pr-
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Meh, I wonder if this suspicion is from watching me in the large danceIn post 1434, Regfan wrote:All up I town read a lot of his actions and posts throughout the game but there's no singular action of his that I think is completely unfakeable. I think he's probably town here and certainly has the more logical reads in the thread but wouldn't entirely rule him out of being scum.
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Actually, I've got thoughts now:
VOTE: Kop
Think gamma having claimed first so not being able to say he blocked there is a pretty good theory, this looks more like scum fakeclaiming with a lowish amount of prs
Not sure where these thoughts come from, looks like trying to confuse people with his iso rather than figuring things out...In post 1312, Kop wrote:VOTE: Davesaz
I don't think Dunstrall is scum on my wagon, regfan is confirmed town, if I had to choose scum on that wagon, Davesaz, Desperado or Superhans, it's within those 3.
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(I can't)In post 1468, ThinkBig wrote:Hey, I could actually read and understand the Hebrew!-
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I already know what you're going to say here and I agreeIn post 1470, Regfan wrote:This is getting frustrating waiting for Alisea - if we don't see a replacement in the next few hours I might just post my analysis based around the assumption that they'll probably claim VT; not preferable though.-
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You serious?In post 1488, Superhans wrote:Whats your case on Kop?-
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What do you mean? IC is still confirmed town - the reason it's rather weak here is because it's revealed at the start the only protective is a bodyguard and so IC dies immediately or a bodyguard is pretty much wasted on themIn post 1586, nydushermain wrote:Minor but kind of interesting that he doesn't bring this up as a potential reason why the IC didn't die in the night and instead questions alisae's reasoning for why IC didn't die.
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In post 1554, Gamma Emerald wrote:hey ny
He left vla, here were his posts...In post 155, Gamma Emerald wrote:what did kop claim-
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What do you meanIn post 1710, Superhans wrote:I see no reason for Gamma to have to make a fakeclaim, I don't think he should be fairly town read for today.-
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about whatIn post 1715, Superhans wrote:
I think both Kop and Gamma were telling the truth.In post 1713, Dunnstral wrote:
What do you meanIn post 1710, Superhans wrote:I see no reason for Gamma to have to make a fakeclaim, I don't think he should be fairly town read for today.-
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Seriously though what is this? I've been talking all day, you spammed up a page, in reality I posted like 4 posts above thatIn post 1708, Realeo wrote:In another news, I get bad vibes from Dunnstral of "scum shuts up and let town kill each other"-
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In post 1715, Superhans wrote:
I think both Kop and Gamma were telling the truth.In post 1713, Dunnstral wrote:
What do you meanIn post 1710, Superhans wrote:I see no reason for Gamma to have to make a fakeclaim, I don't think he should be fairly town read for today.
Considering they're both dead it would seem soSuperhans wrote:About their roles.
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Why can't we vote davesaz, then?In post 1813, Superhans wrote:Davesaz maybe.-
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So do you think Superhans is scum, then? What's your opinion on Desperado and Thinkbig?In post 1827, davesaz wrote:Superhans is consistently a late entrant on big wagons, other than wagons on ThinkBig. The only exception to this rule that I see is being early on Gamma d1, but that was after being 3rd on that wagon and two left it.-
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in terms of him being town. I think he has a good chance of being scumIn post 1851, nydushermain wrote:
In terms of scum or town? Because I think I called him town and superhans called him scum on the same page.In post 1850, Dunnstral wrote:I also don't see what you guys are seeing about dave-
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If realeo were a mafia pr it wouldn't matterIn post 1858, nydushermain wrote:
Gamma had a green check on him.In post 1857, davesaz wrote:Actually with both PR flips realeo is no longer technically conf. I have him on the re-read and analyze list.
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huh?In post 1853, davesaz wrote:
I'd be a lot more comfortable reading you if I could be confident you understand the concept of honest posting and could recognize it when you see it.In post 1850, Dunnstral wrote:I also don't see what you guys are seeing about dave-
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So if he were bulletproof, rolecop, or joat he would show up as "not goon"In post 1860, Dunnstral wrote:
If realeo were a mafia pr it wouldn't matterIn post 1858, nydushermain wrote:
Gamma had a green check on him.In post 1857, davesaz wrote:Actually with both PR flips realeo is no longer technically conf. I have him on the re-read and analyze list.
I've lost a couple games as town by failing to accurately recognize "scum leading town", so I caution against doing solely town reads.-
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In post 1882, Realeo wrote:
Lying is town action?In post 1849, Dunnstral wrote:I also think tb is towny-
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I think you're mafia. Posts like this:
While talking about kop when it didn't make sense (and we know he was town now)In post 1411, davesaz wrote:VT/
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...I don'tIn post 1889, davesaz wrote:You (and that's personally you) lose games (specifically ones where you scumread me) because you expect people to act evasively so much that you can't recognize when they are not being evasive.-
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