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Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:37 am

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/confirm.
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Post Post #50 (isolation #1) » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:01 am

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Important stuff: Should we claim our neighbourhoods now or keep them hidden until later?
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Post Post #411 (isolation #2) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:22 am

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With the amount of spam this game already has I think I'll go and dwell in the nighbourhood and let you guys talk it out.
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Post Post #463 (isolation #3) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:29 am

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In post 451, FourTrouble wrote:
In post 446, Bitmap wrote:How is he anti-town? Also, being lazy is not alignment indicative.

Not reading large portions of the game is anti-town. Not commenting on anything unless specifically asked is anti-town. Casting an RVS vote (i.e. trying to go back) when RVS is dead is anti-town. All of these suggest that Ankamius isn't scumhunting (which is anti-town) and a passive/reactionary approach (which is also anti-town). I also disagree that being lazy isn't scummy. Yes, town are sometimes lazy too (and I'm at fault for this more than anyone), but in general scum are lazy more often than town, so it increases the odd that someone is scum.

No. Antitown is posting spam and cluttering the thread. I don't have anything important to say when the whole thread is bullshit.
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Post Post #472 (isolation #4) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:57 am

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I've read the thread. I saw nothing worthwhile. It's the first day of day 1. There is nothing that can actually be used to make a proper case.

Also what does having your attention on me mean?
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Post Post #511 (isolation #5) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:01 am

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On phone. Can't really say much now.

I like how people vote for me because I posted two things. Brantz is the most awful vote. He asks something then gives the reasom he considers correct is in the same post. That seems faked scumhunting and questioning.
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Post Post #582 (isolation #6) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:41 pm

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Vezok wagon best wagon.

Now seriously. Metal sonic is town. House and TSO are town also.
I still have no idea what's up with beast.
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Post Post #584 (isolation #7) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:43 pm

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In post 252, RachMarie wrote:what we are not doing RVS?

I guess I will spend some time sorting peeps out tomorrow its late here.


Psst Tammy even though it was pregame I really WOULD like to check out a couple of your scum games.

In post 505, RachMarie wrote:Those of you who are already town reading me could you explain WHY?

Bit is actually better at being scum than town. Do not let the VI routine fool you.

Of the 3 votes on me his seems the scummiest. No reasoning giving just a bald vote after two votes have already been cast. It looks like he is going for low hanging fruit.

VOTE: Bit


Yeah rach is town. I haven't seen scum ask why we didn't do RVS ever.
Also I've rarely seen ask why they are getting townread.
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Post Post #585 (isolation #8) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:50 pm

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In post 153, BRantz wrote:I have felt that you are both town in this argument, but completely honestly I kind of tuned it out after a while.

I actually kind of like T S O, but mostly because of me feeling similarly to him around .

Xombie continued making jokes after your conversation became serious which feels a little strange but I don't know that it is scum indicative. (I never really expected 6 pages of content during the confirmation stage here).

I actually am kind of leery of vezok, I don't know that I like that he popped in to ask a question like the one in , and then didn't stick around to discuss it with anyone (though in fairness it didn't get discussed for another page or so).

My brain wants to scum read everyone who said they aren't going to read any of the discussion from the confirmation stage, but there are a lot of them so I don't think its actually a tell.

I think House is town.


I asked a question and then went to sleep. I didn't expect 20 pages where my question would be buried and not getting at a consent. Personally I don't really care if we out the nighbourhoods or not. I just think that we as the unimformed majority should out information that scum probably have already.
In post 500, BRantz wrote:I go to sleep and then 10 more pages...

FT my question becomes how do you distinguish between vezok, Ank, and blonde (who's only post in the game is )? Are they all scum? What makes any of them more scummy than any other?

TD's intro is awful. It reads to me as "lets pick the most townread people in the game and stir the pot to see what happens." But the tone is off for that sort of gambit.

In post 412, farside22 wrote:
Dear lord there is lots to still read.
Do people sleep?


This is kind of what I am feeling right now too.

@vezok: This is possibly the most content I've ever seen on day 1 of a game, why are you actively trying to not analyze any of it?

@Ank: You seem to have switched to being more involved in trying to engage in the last page or two, what changed for you? (Also knowing your own meta makes it worthless )

VOTE: vezokpiraka

In post 512, BRantz wrote:
In post 511, vezokpiraka wrote: He asks something then gives the reasom he considers correct is in the same post. That seems faked scumhunting and questioning.


What are you commenting on here specifically?


In the post before this You ask FT how does he differentiate between me, ank and blonde. And then ask why are they scum.

You then ask me why I am actively not trying to analyze it and vote for me. If FT was going to respond to your question and you actually wanted to understand glean something from it, you wouldn't have told him in the same post what your opinion on the correct answer.

It feels like a forced question that you didn't really care about. You only wanted to give the impression that you are part of the game. Also all your questions were about me, FT and ank and there are more people who need sorted out, except just the three of us.

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Post Post #602 (isolation #9) » Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:37 am

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In post 594, Xombie wrote:
In post 585, vezokpiraka wrote:
I asked a question and then went to sleep. I didn't expect 20 pages where my question would be buried and not getting at a consent. Personally I don't really care if we out the nighbourhoods or not. I just think that we as the unimformed majority should out information that scum probably have already.


What makes you think that scum already know the neighborhoods?

Because scum know at least more neighbourhoods than a single town can know.
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Post Post #685 (isolation #10) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:09 pm

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Yay mastin. Rach is town. Your vote is too hasty.
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Post Post #761 (isolation #11) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:09 pm

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Mastin is either town or scum with a bad scumteam.

@rach: if you were to be a unicorn what color would you be?
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Post Post #795 (isolation #12) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:55 pm

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In post 762, RachMarie wrote:Purple because it is NS's favorite color and I love him ♥

See this mastin? This isn't scum.
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Post Post #796 (isolation #13) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:56 pm

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In post 793, Xombie wrote:
In post 761, vezokpiraka wrote:Mastin is either town or scum with a bad scumteam.

Why?
How would his posting differ if he were 'scum with a bad scumteam' instead of just scum?

If he had a good scum team, he could play his own game. I he had a bad one he'll have to protect himself and take care of his teammates.
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Post Post #834 (isolation #14) » Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:40 am

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In post 833, RachMarie wrote:Vezo how the h e double hockey stick does the fact I pick my fiance's favorite color prove I am town?

I need to see more from Pere before I put him in a pile, I admit I tend to read him as scum and have a bit of confirmation bias with him.

Because your reply is truthful. You wanted to tell me that color because you felt like it, not because you wanted to appease me and get on my good side like scum do usually.
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Post Post #859 (isolation #15) » Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:46 pm

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In post 850, theaceofspades wrote:Ok i'm here. Finished reading too. Just dumping my thoughts.

First, to xombie's and someone else who i can't remember thing about neighborhoods. Yes plural. This isn't a new mechanic is it? Been done before. Don't think so. Yes they (plural) help me.

MS is pretty much almost obvitown. Idk much about him though.

Bitmap Rach Ihouse imp and solar wind are also fairly strong townreads.

xombie i'm reserving judgement on.

Everyone else is almost as lurky as me. Except in a few cases

Read vezok ISO. Strong townread.

I'll iso the other guys in a moment too


How did you find my ISO so town? What made me a strong townread for you by just reading my ISO?
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Post Post #899 (isolation #16) » Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:14 am

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In post 879, iHouse wrote:VOTE: mastin2

~ House


After Organic Chemistry I'm against any and all mastin2 wagons on day 1.

For anyone that doesn't know what happened: We lynched mastin day 1, with 12 players on the wagon iirc. All of them were town. And mastin flipped town PR.
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Post Post #1099 (isolation #17) » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:48 pm

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Incredibly sorry I didn't post.

I was closely reading the thread and wanted to post yesterday, but had some stuff to do.

AP is town. I'm glad he came back.
I don't get the matins hate.
Solar wind: What's your readlist?
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Post Post #1103 (isolation #18) » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:29 am

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In post 1100, Solar Wind wrote:Somewhat busy at the moment so this will be quick.

No, AP's catch up wasn't town. It was designed to manipulate specific people into reading him as town. Nothing that he posted in his catchup is something that he would be unable to fake as scum. Anyone townreading AP should explain why.

Both Ffery and I are reading Imperium as town and have already explained it. Don't get why people are asking again and again. Just read our posts.

Ffery posted her reads in our hydra PT. I expect we'll probably post a list once I re-read the game and refine a few reads I suppose. She's free to post hers obviously but I'm not ready yet.

So we shouldn't read AP as town because all he did may be faked? Then how can we read AP?
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Post Post #1144 (isolation #19) » Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:10 am

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So you are scumreading AP?
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Post Post #1150 (isolation #20) » Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:39 am

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I like this wagon.

vote theaceofspades
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Post Post #1162 (isolation #21) » Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:16 am

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In post 1151, -Blonde- wrote:Trying to get yourself out of it vezo?

VOTE: vezokpiraka


Get myself out of what?

I was on the brantz wagon. I still support it, but this is gaining steam and I've scumread aceofspades for a while now.
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Post Post #1195 (isolation #22) » Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:14 pm

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In post 1177, Solar Wind wrote:Sweet. Ceph, if you are town, obvtown up your slot quickly and we'll steamroll the scum.

Don't tell me. It's multiball and you are scum. Is you r team better than serum and steel?
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Post Post #1269 (isolation #23) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:06 am

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Ceph, don't tell me you're scum with Ms.
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Post Post #1305 (isolation #24) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:16 pm

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@tammy: grow thicker skin and stop making everything about yourelf.
@falcon: stop pestering tammy. It's a damn game. If you want to troll people go on 4chan.
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Post Post #1329 (isolation #25) » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:52 pm

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In post 1307, Solar Wind wrote:
In post 1305, vezokpiraka wrote:@tammy: grow thicker skin and stop making everything about yourelf.
@falcon: stop pestering tammy. It's a damn game. If you want to troll people go on 4chan.

I'm done posting anything more. But please don't do this. This is not actually helpful mediation.

I'm not trying to mediate you. I just want you to stop spamming the thread. You could hate each other so much you'll go up in flames for all I care, but stop talking to each other in thread.
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Post Post #1590 (isolation #26) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:10 pm

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Guys. I had a dream where this game ended and aceofspades won as scum.

This is clearly a sign he is scum.
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Post Post #1721 (isolation #27) » Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:42 pm

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Cephrir is not scum. He's being pushed by scum as cw to ace.
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Post Post #1769 (isolation #28) » Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:41 am

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Deadline is in 4 days.

More votes on ace please. Classic scum caving under pressure.
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Post Post #1804 (isolation #29) » Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:33 am

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In post 1802, Solar Wind wrote:
Here are the reasons why Cephrir is scum and why we are lynching him today:




How about we lynch you? Nearly everything you said about cephrir can be said about you and in your case it was with scummy intentions and could hardly be attributed to a town mind process.
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Post Post #1890 (isolation #30) » Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:14 pm

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I'm not lynching ceph day 1 when we have like 4 heavy lurkers.

Fuck your egos and lynch scum not inflate your self worth.
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Post Post #1905 (isolation #31) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:08 am

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In post 1893, Solar Wind wrote:
In post 1890, vezokpiraka wrote:I'm not lynching ceph day 1 when we have like 4 heavy lurkers.

Fuck your egos and lynch scum not inflate your self worth.

Since when did lynching lurkers equal lynching scum?


I think you're dumb on purpose.

Lynching lurkers is better than lynching town who's actually doing something.
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Post Post #1912 (isolation #32) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:35 am

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@farside: I've read your case, but didn't find anything that screams scum to me and my town read on rach is still there.

Why don't you like the aceofsapdes wagon? We lynch him today and we can revisit rach tomorrow.
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Post Post #1917 (isolation #33) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:30 am

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In post 1914, farside22 wrote:
In post 1912, vezokpiraka wrote:@farside: I've read your case, but didn't find anything that screams scum to me and my town read on rach is still there.

Why don't you like the aceofsapdes wagon? We lynch him today and we can revisit rach tomorrow.



A bad case with fake reasoning is town?

*feeling bitchy*

I would go back to ace if this cephrir lynch keeps getting pushed.

No. The case is not town. The player on the other hand feels more town than scum right now. If rach continues with this types of posts I will probably consider voting her, but for now I don't feel it.
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Post Post #1930 (isolation #34) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:37 am

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In post 1928, farside22 wrote:Alright vezo and cephrir, I'll get off my box for now but consider me not happy with rach or her "case"

Vote: ace


I'm not voting ace because of rach's case.

He's been scummy and absent especially when heat got to him.
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Post Post #2011 (isolation #35) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:33 pm

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In post 2009, TiphaineDeath wrote:My win condition in this game is "You win when all threats have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same."

Now tell us he's lying ceph.
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Post Post #2053 (isolation #36) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:17 pm

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In post 2043, Imperium wrote:Who the hell writes notes and then replaces out without ever posting them?

Scum, that's who.
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Post Post #2438 (isolation #37) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:25 pm

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unvote
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Holy shit 16 pages in a few hours. Let's lynch someone. Liking magua's entry. Not really liking heartless.
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Post Post #2876 (isolation #38) » Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:55 pm

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Ceph: thank me later.

vote ms


It's good that you're back. Time to die.
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Post Post #2893 (isolation #39) » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:57 pm

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Cephrir is town as fuck. What os wrong with you sw?
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Post Post #2895 (isolation #40) » Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:16 pm

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In post 2894, Solar Wind wrote:
In post 2893, vezokpiraka wrote:Cephrir is town as fuck. What os wrong with you sw?

If you ever want to explain why, I'll be listening.

Well yes. I saved cephrir last night. And there are no kills today.
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Post Post #2927 (isolation #41) » Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:48 pm

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@ooba: explain what happened to at least one kill.
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Post Post #3000 (isolation #42) » Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:44 am

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Let's get to answering questions.

I had a town read on the beginning on ms because his entry was townish. After that it dwindled and I expressed that in my neighbourhood. It slowly dwindled to a major scum read.

The post related to Cephrir was nearly immediately after he replaced it and it was a slight associative tell. I wasn't scumreading cephrir just pointing out that something felt off. In the mean time Cephrir became an obv town read for me.
He also claimed a powerful role so that's why I protected him.

Also why the fuck wouldn't you think that a very strong player with a role he claimed was good isn't a possible night kill target? Do you kill lurkers as scum?

We should claim neighbourhoods. I'm tired of everyone asking around who was in a neighbourhood with whom.
BTW Bitmap is most probably Odin for anyone that didn't figure it out.
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Post Post #3044 (isolation #43) » Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:29 am

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In post 1757, Cephrir wrote:I'm not going to be apathetic this game, by the way. It's my only game right now and I like my role.


I like my role = I know how to play this role and it's probably at least a bit powerful.

Nobody is going to say that if their role was commuter or something.
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Post Post #3049 (isolation #44) » Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:39 am

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In post 3045, ZZZX wrote:
In post 3040, Heartless wrote:
In post 3037, Solar Wind wrote:What do you think fueled the last minute AP wagon?

My best guess is the pressure of impending deadline is what motivated most of the votes. The stuff you and Imperium posted previously most likely provided the original spark for the wagon.

pretty much i guess


What are you doing?
Who are you townreading?
Who are your primary scumreads?
What is your input on yesterday and today?

Seriously why do you play if you don't post anything?
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Post Post #3098 (isolation #45) » Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:13 am

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In post 3096, theaceofspades wrote:i'd still like to lynch mastin

VOTE: mastin

i kinda thought that was the plan after an AP evil flip? and it looks more SK-y than survivor to me. I call it scum. Because evil.

I'm also now townreading heartless. because hydras are always town.

TD is now suspicious. will read his iso

Can we pleaaaaaaaaassssssse lynch this?

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Post Post #3208 (isolation #46) » Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:41 pm

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Beast is town for reasons.
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Post Post #3224 (isolation #47) » Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:11 pm

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No. I talked to him in our neighborhood and he is 99% town
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Post Post #3470 (isolation #48) » Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:39 pm

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@ms: Dayvig one of aceofspades, the mask, ank or zzzx.

At least we can get a lurker out.
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Post Post #3476 (isolation #49) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:54 am

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In post 3471, Metal Sonic wrote:Pere is also a lurker.


Zzzx is a good choice. But in capcom he was town.

Pere is also a lurker, but he sometimes does good stuff as town. Pere also isn't a low hanging fruit.

IDK if mask is lowhanging fruit. I've never played with him before.

I usually prefer seeing lurkers vigged, because lynching lurkers is painful.
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Post Post #3871 (isolation #50) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:08 pm

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That big kill feels so good.
I don't have any doubts now. MS is town.

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Post Post #4181 (isolation #51) » Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:44 am

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Why is theace wagon so hard to get going?

With the exception of ms, who's actually giving reasons why he doesn't want to vote Ms and has reads, everyone else just jumps from skybird to rach. This is suspicious.
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Post Post #4350 (isolation #52) » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:18 pm

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I feel the same as magua. Beast and mostly everyone could hardpy fake the conviction beast had that he will prove to us he is town.

vote ft
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Post Post #4402 (isolation #53) » Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:58 am

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In post 4397, Ankamius wrote:Solar Wind/Magua/farside22/TSO/Vezokpiraka

What is your current read on TiphaineDeath?

I know at least one of Heartless townreads him. Normally I'd throw support for this wagon immediately since I'm leaning town on the other two slots, but the fact that Mastin is the only one on it right now is making me have second thoughts about whether I'm on the right track about beastcharizard or not.


Yeah beast is scum also. We are an all scum neighbourhood. Glad you caught us.
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Post Post #4426 (isolation #54) » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:02 am

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In post 4420, Ankamius wrote:
In post 4417, Cephrir wrote:Ah, that list isn't as odd as I thought it was. I thought that wagon was mostly lurkaderps for some reason. Vezok and farside are still odd choices, but I'll allow the other two. Out of curiosity, do you feel worse about the House slot since it was replaced, or better?


I feel worse about the slot, but not by very much. iHouse's FT push felt really town when he made it, which is why he was in my town list on day 1. I haven't felt any particular town feels from Magua's posting. The way he pushed me since he replaced in feels off and the way his scumreads are ordered here is kinda eh, but I'm already confident that I can't read him worth a shit, so I'm banking more on my iHouse read than Magua read.


Do you understand that your reads can't possibly be right?

I know dram said not to outguess him, but I highly doubt any mod would put three scum in a four people neighbourhood, or four if you count beast.
I could accept you thinking there are 2 scums in my neighbourhood, but 4/4? These seem like fabricated reads by someone who didn't bother to read the game.
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Post Post #4427 (isolation #55) » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:07 am

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Also let me clear up the situation with beast.

Beast claimed in our neighbourhood that if he lives through day 1 his role will confirm him as town. We waited and his confirmation was that he had 1/2 votes. He said his vote fluctuated. I guessed that he gains a vote for each kill and that he had half because of brambles. He came in the thread and claimed that he actually gains half a vote for each death since the last night. So he had half a vote from the AP lynch. He did this incredibly calmly.

I couldn't see this coming from scum beast in a million years. His scumbuddies would've coached him and told him something to fakeclaim. He wouldn't have responded so quickly to my guess, because he would've asked his scum friends how to react.

Seriously, beast IS TOWN.

The lynch today is between FT and TD.
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Post Post #4458 (isolation #56) » Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:15 pm

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Did anyone read my post about beast?
I said he is town because of how he reacted not because of his role.
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Post Post #4680 (isolation #57) » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:35 pm

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In post 4609, Cephrir wrote:
In post 4606, Heartless wrote:i don't recall a sphincteritis about voting from EITHER ffery or f16 in games i've played w/ them.


In post 4606, Heartless wrote:ffery

What games have YOU been playing?

Also, I believe those TD posts could still come from scum, yes. But you will notice that I am voting for beastcharizard! Half the players in this game have someone vouching for them; I don't think this one is anything but a read and I don't especially trust TSO here anyway. Furthermore, Magua is also in that neighborhood (IIRC? Well anyway SOMEONE is) and I haven't seen them expressing similar feelings that I recall.


Seriously? Me, Magua and TSO have all vouched for beast and gave reasons, but somehow you forgot.
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Post Post #4788 (isolation #58) » Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:02 pm

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This is dragging. We need the replacements.
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Post Post #4869 (isolation #59) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:11 am

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In post 4802, Skybird wrote:Vezo, I just read through Beast's ISO again and most of the posts where he is talking about his ability read as someone who is angry. Could you point to the post where he "incredibly calmly" explains his vote role?

No. I also can't point to your reading comprehension skills because they don't exist.

Have you even read the posts by me that you quoted?
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Post Post #4932 (isolation #60) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:14 pm

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@sky: The posts are in the Neighbourhood.
Seriously. I've said so in some posts. Ithought you could read.
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Post Post #4938 (isolation #61) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:51 pm

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In post 4934, Skybird wrote:
In post 4932, vezokpiraka wrote:@sky: The posts are in the Neighbourhood.
Seriously. I've said so in some posts. Ithought you could read.


Great. I can't read your neighborhood so how does that help me determine if you are right? Am I supposed to just take your word for it? And lay off the sarcastic remarks. I'm asking questions because you don't make sense to me. Deal with it.

Because everyone who read those posts say they come from town.
Why do you trust mastin(only one) but not our neighboorhood?
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Post Post #4992 (isolation #62) » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:11 pm

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Does anyone get a vibe of pure manipulation from fts posts?
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Post Post #5046 (isolation #63) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:08 pm

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I am going rant after game if ft is indeed scum.
vote td
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Post Post #5052 (isolation #64) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:36 pm

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@sw: because ft isn't going to be lynched and I'm not voting ozgin. I have null read om td so he's the only choice.
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Post Post #5233 (isolation #65) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:22 pm

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Everytime I read a f16 post I have this irrational desire to stab him with a spoon.

Also in ozgin last post he says something about ft, but nothing at all about. I would newbie scum to jump on the cw asap.
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Post Post #5334 (isolation #66) » Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:57 pm

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Lynch td please. Ozgin isn't scum.
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Post Post #5397 (isolation #67) » Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:01 pm

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In post 5395, Andrius wrote:Powers up an ability. Need a certain number of stacks to be able to consume stacks to perform ability.

Playing ARAM. Posting when dead.


ARAM is the game mode where you shouldn't die. I think you have bad luck at the randomizer.

@MS: I'll probably protect you if espe doesn't take you away.
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Post Post #5483 (isolation #68) » Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:38 am

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Ms: don't worry.
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Post Post #5661 (isolation #69) » Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:54 pm

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What the fuck people?
Don't lynch ozgin. He's town. Ceph's town too.
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Post Post #5684 (isolation #70) » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:14 pm

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In post 5679, dramonic wrote:
In post 5641, Metal Sonic wrote:It's a very boggling role


Does dram want to win best setup or something lol

I actually won best setup in 2010 with Tarot Mafia.

That was one of the best games ever.
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Post Post #5693 (isolation #71) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:22 am

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unvote
vote FT


Dram
: Did the modkill not increase Oagin's vote?
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Post Post #5775 (isolation #72) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:19 pm

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In post 5774, mastin2 wrote:
In post 5507, Ozgin wrote:Andrius, F-16, or Espeonage are likely the culprits.
(Psst. It's Andrius.)

Read the thread before posting bullshit.
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Post Post #5783 (isolation #73) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:01 pm

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In post 5777, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 5775, vezokpiraka wrote:
In post 5774, mastin2 wrote:
In post 5507, Ozgin wrote:Andrius, F-16, or Espeonage are likely the culprits.
(Psst. It's Andrius.)

Read the thread before posting bullshit.


The last time mastin was this silly, she was town. In organic chemistry

That's why I want her to stop posting useless stuff.
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Post Post #5810 (isolation #74) » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:03 am

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I want to lynch zelnick just because his posts make me want to screw a lightbulb into my eye socket.

Seriously. What is wromg with you? Can you not post like a normal person?
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Post Post #5816 (isolation #75) » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:00 am

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In post 5322, farside22 wrote:
Mod: Sorry I'm a bit overwhelmed. Please replace me. I was hopping things would get better


You asked for replacement. Did you change your mind?
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Post Post #5860 (isolation #76) » Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:03 am

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For anyone having trouble with Zelink posts: I started not reading them and my head doesn't feel like exploding anymore. Also Ms and ceph make sense without the posts. When I add zelinks posts I start to get confused.
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Post Post #5943 (isolation #77) » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:13 pm

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Ms ia the greatest friend I'vr ever had.
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Post Post #6153 (isolation #78) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:01 am

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Can we end this day faster?
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Post Post #6290 (isolation #79) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:03 am

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In post 6281, ZeL1nK wrote:How?

He shoots town that the majority didn't want him to shoot -> He's scum for shooting someone that wasn't scummy
He shoots town that the majority did want him to shoot - > He's scum for not taking responsibility

Does that also apply if a majority of the town suggest a scum player and he takes their advice and shoots them?

Or is he only town if he goes rogue AND hits scum?


This is bullshit theory.

Look at Ms. He asked some people who to shoot then shot someone who he wanted. He turned out scum, but that's cause MS is God.

FT is just twindling his thumbs hoping to escape the lynch today. If he wanted to prove his shot he would've shot by now.
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Post Post #6298 (isolation #80) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:57 am

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In post 6297, Metal Sonic wrote:So it appears td's replacement is just his twin brother with hyperactivity

Well there goes the hype, guys.


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Post Post #6456 (isolation #81) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:24 am

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I was right about ozgin, but I kinda failed on ceph. I read him as town when scum and as scum when town,

Good shot FT.

unvote

vote no lynch


With ceph flipped mastin should be looked at.
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Post Post #6524 (isolation #82) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:35 pm

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So what now?
We'll wait for mastin to claim?
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Post Post #6533 (isolation #83) » Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:54 pm

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vote mastin


You're scum here mate. Sorry for your struggles, but we have to play the game.
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Post Post #6582 (isolation #84) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:19 am

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Wait. I protected sonic last night, but I didn't protect-protect him. I made him action immune.

Why was TSO targeting him? This smells fishy.

I kinda want a claim from TSO.
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Post Post #6613 (isolation #85) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:06 am

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In post 6612, Heartless wrote:VOTE: theaceofspades

Come on. Don't break my heart. Don't tell me you're scum.
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Post Post #6662 (isolation #86) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:12 pm

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Mastin posted, but no claim. Time to lynch him.

@zelnick: my night actions are not yours to decide.
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Post Post #6681 (isolation #87) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:39 pm

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@mastim: We both know you don't have a MO as scum. You make plans and stick with them. Or use what you can to make sure your scumbuddies survive.

I don't trust this whole fuck-up. Zzzx and xombie aren't the most freewilled players and it would be easy to manipulate them to believe you are town.

@ms: I'll protect you again.
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Post Post #6686 (isolation #88) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:09 pm

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No. I'm ok.
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Post Post #6687 (isolation #89) » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:09 pm

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In post 6683, mastin2 wrote:
In post 6681, vezokpiraka wrote:@mastim: We both know you don't have a MO as scum. You make plans and stick with them.
Yes, I always have a plan as scum but as part of them, I don't go waving IN THE THREAD, "HEY, GUYS, I HAVE A PLAN!" :facepalm:

Because you could never make a plan that includes saying you have a plan in the thread.
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Post Post #6694 (isolation #90) » Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:22 am

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In post 6692, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 6686, vezokpiraka wrote:No. I'm ok.



Ok bro. There are probably more than 1 protector in the town too so if you need protection just yell (like me) cause you are also outed as an important role


Thus you join the VIP club :cool:


I have my own ways of staying ahead.
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Post Post #6751 (isolation #91) » Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:31 pm

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I talked with the mod and it seems I can't do what I wanted. I may need protection.
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Post Post #6753 (isolation #92) » Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:02 pm

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In post 6752, Metal Sonic wrote:you can still protect me in the meantime, right?

Yes. I just wamted to do something fancy, but the mod won't let me.
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Post Post #6769 (isolation #93) » Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:41 pm

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Occam's razor doesn't apply to you mastin.

Your defense is bullshit and you know it. If you have only one action you would've used by now. If you have more actions claim what td blocked night 1.

All the evidence points to you being scum.

Let me use occam's razor. Which is more probable, scum not submitting a kill or you being blocked, blocked the kill.
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Post Post #6774 (isolation #94) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:28 am

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Occam's razor looks for the easiest explanation.
My protect was on ceph. I highly doubt scum tried to kill themselves so that's out of the question.
The simplest explanation is that you got blocked and that prevented the kill.

@ For everyone else: how can you think mastin is town? At least pressure him to claim that we can at least understand what the fuck he's talking about amd then decide if he's worth it.

We have time for more wagons if we don't fudge around voting random people.
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Post Post #6824 (isolation #95) » Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:09 pm

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Ankamius is scum diverting from mastin.
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Post Post #6845 (isolation #96) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:40 am

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@farside: IDK. Every time I read one of his posts, they make me think they come scum. This happens nearly every game I played with him. I think this time it's a little different, but that's not saying much.

I would enjoy a vig on ankamius. A wagon on ankamius feels bad, because it's so easy to jump on it. We won't get much information from the flip if she flips town.
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Post Post #6878 (isolation #97) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:26 pm

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@Zelink: Who the fuck is pikari?

vote ankamius


We lynch this today and mastin tomorrow then.
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Post Post #6892 (isolation #98) » Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:51 am

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In post 6888, farside22 wrote:I'm starting to think Vezo is scum.

I'm starting to think you aren't trying to play the game.
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Post Post #6896 (isolation #99) » Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:38 am

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Post Post #6908 (isolation #100) » Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:00 pm

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In post 6898, farside22 wrote:
In post 6845, vezokpiraka wrote:@farside: IDK. Every time I read one of his posts, they make me think they come scum. This happens nearly every game I played with him. I think this time it's a little different, but that's not saying much.

I would enjoy a vig on ankamius. A wagon on ankamius feels bad, because it's so easy to jump on it. We won't get much information from the flip if she flips town.

In post 6878, vezokpiraka wrote:@Zelink: Who the fuck is pikari?

vote ankamius


We lynch this today and mastin tomorrow then.

In post 6892, vezokpiraka wrote:
In post 6888, farside22 wrote:I'm starting to think Vezo is scum.

I'm starting to think you aren't trying to play the game.



I'm paying attention just fine. You want to explain the change of heart there?


What change of heart? The fact that I wagoned ankamius? I said I prefer a vig and wouldn't like a wagon, but apparently ankamius is the only choice for today. I would still prefer lynching someone else, but I can't convince people to lynch mastin.
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Post Post #6952 (isolation #101) » Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:07 pm

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In post 6951, FourTrouble wrote:Who do you guys think I should shoot?

Tso because he's either mislynch bait or scum.
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Post Post #6986 (isolation #102) » Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:16 am

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What is wrong with you people?

I'm tired of this day. I want mastin lynched, but you pussies won't do that cause you're afraid of lynching god knows what. I'm gonna laugh so hard when mastin comes tomorrow and says that the mod forgot about his action or something and we powerlynch him.

Lynch ankamius. There is no discussion. There is no way we aren't lynching ankamius today. Anyone who wants something else should get a dayvig or shut up.
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Post Post #7007 (isolation #103) » Mon Mar 16, 2015 5:15 am

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In post 6988, ZeL1nK wrote:
In post 6986, vezokpiraka wrote:Lynch ankamius. There is no discussion. There is no way we aren't lynching ankamius today. Anyone who wants something else should get a dayvig or shut up.

Why do you want to lynch Anamikus?

Who do you think is scum and, more importantly, why? (I don't care about your thoughts on mastin, so other thoughts, please.)

What do you think about TSO?

I've stated that I think TSO is town and I won't be voting there today.

I think scum are in mastin, ankamius, heartless, TWIE, skybird in that order.

I have a townread on theaceofspades right now. There were too many attempts to wagon him and I didn't like one part of it. Every single day there is someone who will try to push a wagon on him, mostly Heartless.

Ceph had ace as a mislynch target. Or some sort of weird bussing, but that's incredible if Ceph pulled that so well.
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Post Post #7124 (isolation #104) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:43 am

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In post 7122, T S O wrote:Metal Sonic: Cephrir seems like the type to be dishonest about scumreads.
Cephrir: TSO is probably scum.
Metal Sonic: Thanks for telling us TSO is scum!

You can't just assume a premise and discard it in favour of your former theory.



You do realise he decided that you are townier than ank right?
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Post Post #7267 (isolation #105) » Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:27 pm

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I'm waiting for mastin.

I made Ms action immune if anyone asks.
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Post Post #7309 (isolation #106) » Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:33 am

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In post 7306, T S O wrote:why didn't you fucking confirm me

Cause he's either dumb or scum.

And I tend to believe that mastin is not dumb. Seriously, there was never any reason to think magua is scum. What the fuck is wrong with you guys. I said my neighbourhood is all town the first day the game started for fucks sake.

We waited so freaking much for mastin to come in and claim a cop. A COP. Really. Ah. Let's get to finding scum.

vote heartless
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Post Post #7317 (isolation #107) » Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:05 am

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In post 7314, mastin2 wrote:
In post 7309, vezokpiraka wrote:We waited so freaking much for mastin to come in and claim a cop. A COP. Really. Ah. Let's get to finding scum.
No, a passive tracker, and super-cop.
I cannot be killed.
I cannot be roleblocked.
I cannot be redirected.

I get the tracker results automatically.
And the cop is a strong ability given the above.

It's a ridiculously broken role when used right.
The only thing that'd make it more broken would to actually have a guilty result today.


I'm still waiting for the part where this makes you super town. All I see is a role that could be either scum or town. Nothing screams town.
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Post Post #7320 (isolation #108) » Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:21 am

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In post 7319, mastin2 wrote:
In post 7317, vezokpiraka wrote:I'm still waiting for the part where this makes you super town.
To be honest, I was kinda hoping to have a guilty, here. There's a reason I went for MAGUA, after all. :P
Woulda made my plan be much better. Imagine this.

Magua, a player who is widely townread save for one player, is suddenly called scum via cop guilty by me...and then gets dayvigged.
Given scum's position, would that be anywhere even remotely smart play from scum? No, it'd be suicidal play. (Another reason I targeted Magua over TSO. Everyone thinks TSO is scum. What do you need a cop result for?)

Admit it, you'd conftown me for that act. I wouldn't even need to claim the entirety of my role, even though I probably would anyway.

The plan didn't account for me getting an innocent result. :oops:

It's less-than-ideal, but it still works.
Speaking of which, while I planned for today (albeit not for today's result), I didn't take the time to plan for after that, so I need to think of a new bees target, especially if TSO dies be it via lynch or dayvig.


If you would've copped TSO it would've made me feel better. TSO is most probably town, but there is still the little paranoia that thinks he might be scum.

Can someone dayvig heartless btw? I don't really want to have him governor himself or something stupid like that.
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Post Post #7420 (isolation #109) » Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:21 pm

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Fine.
vote tso


@zelnik: If he flips town you are going to sheep my votes until the end.
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Post Post #7426 (isolation #110) » Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:56 pm

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In post 7421, ZeL1nK wrote:Does the opposite happen if he flips scum?

I'm down. I'll sheep you if tso flips scum.
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Post Post #7432 (isolation #111) » Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:18 pm

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In post 7430, ZeL1nK wrote:To be clear, I'd like to clear up whether he's third party, I don't feel all that strongly he's on the Pumbaa scum team (but clearing that up as well couldn't hurt).

Because that is our problem right now. What if ms is third party. Why would we cop people who might be scum when we can waste it somewhere else.

@mastin: do whatever. You're town.
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Post Post #7458 (isolation #112) » Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:41 pm

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@ I am willing to taget you tonight if tso flips scum and only then.
I prefer not massclaiming today, because I also have some stuff I prefer scum not knowing. It doesn't help if town know them.

@Ms: vig someone please. Try heartless, but I think he claimed bp.
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Post Post #7467 (isolation #113) » Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:00 pm

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In post 7460, T S O wrote:Pet theory is that vezok didn't want me flipping originally because it would bring scrutiny on him as the last member of our neighbourhood, but for some reason decided he didn't care anymore about that. not sure why.

vezok, what exactly is your claim again? I've got all the time in the world.


What? I claimed doc a long time ago.
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Post Post #7514 (isolation #114) » Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:20 am

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@TSO: I docced cephrir night 1 and made ms action immune nights 2 and 3. If you would've paid attention you would've already known. Where do you want to get with this?
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Post Post #7550 (isolation #115) » Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:09 pm

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In post 7525, T S O wrote:See, Magua, I could see vezok-scum and co. realising Metal Sonic was a dayvig and actually keeping him alive to reduce our numbers due to his extremely high chance of derp. But he's not going to act until he has our full approval. So, if vezok -is- scum, the only thing I can think of is that he's keeping Metal Sonic alive because one of the scumteam members can influence the dayvig choice strongly.

The why would I havr claimed I protected ceph night 1? Ceph wasn't in danger of getting lynched.
You're too paranoid man.
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Post Post #7647 (isolation #116) » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:10 am

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In post 7620, Heartless wrote:
In post 7609, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 7608, Heartless wrote:METAL

WHY DO YOU THINK HE'S CAVING ON THE TSO WHITEKNIGHT NOW?

because of me and zelink
*looks at the obvious*


/thought experiment

tso is lynched

flips town

you and zelink now owe him a "sheep"

THAT'S what vezok was focusing on


Congratulations! You caught me good. How did you figure I'm the best scum mastermind there ever was? Who did foil every single part of my plan? Yes I protected Ceph because his role was too good for us and I needed him alive to do stuff. When we saw that our killed disappeared I decided to claim to gain town cred for me and ceph. After that FT made our day worse by killing ceph, but all was not lost, because I had the incredible idea of voting someone who I openly said I townread at the start of the day in exchange for a gentleman's agreement of sheeping knowing I'll control more votes tomorrow.

But in my incredibly excited state I made some mistakes. I should have never said I consider TSO town, because I could've coasted way easier. My genius is oh so limited in only grand schemes. I mess the details every single time.

Now that the incredible scumhunter TSO has foiled my master plan I have nothing else to do. but bow to him.

HAIL TSO, THE MOST PARANOID KING THAT EVER LIVED! LONG LIVE THE KING, LONG LIVE TSO!
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Post Post #7648 (isolation #117) » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:11 am

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Now on a more serious note I think heartless is just trolling, because he knows his team has no chance to win.
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Post Post #7672 (isolation #118) » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:38 am

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In post 7653, ZZZX wrote:
In post 7647, vezokpiraka wrote:
In post 7620, Heartless wrote:
In post 7609, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 7608, Heartless wrote:METAL

WHY DO YOU THINK HE'S CAVING ON THE TSO WHITEKNIGHT NOW?

because of me and zelink
*looks at the obvious*


/thought experiment

tso is lynched

flips town

you and zelink now owe him a "sheep"

THAT'S what vezok was focusing on


Congratulations! You caught me good. How did you figure I'm the best scum mastermind there ever was? Who did foil every single part of my plan? Yes I protected Ceph because his role was too good for us and I needed him alive to do stuff. When we saw that our killed disappeared I decided to claim to gain town cred for me and ceph. After that FT made our day worse by killing ceph, but all was not lost, because I had the incredible idea of voting someone who I openly said I townread at the start of the day in exchange for a gentleman's agreement of sheeping knowing I'll control more votes tomorrow.

But in my incredibly excited state I made some mistakes. I should have never said I consider TSO town, because I could've coasted way easier. My genius is oh so limited in only grand schemes. I mess the details every single time.

Now that the incredible scumhunter TSO has foiled my master plan I have nothing else to do. but bow to him.

HAIL TSO, THE MOST PARANOID KING THAT EVER LIVED! LONG LIVE THE KING, LONG LIVE TSO!

the only reason I am not insta lynhing you right now is because of your damn role


Come at me bro. It's not the first time I was lynched as a doctor and it won't be the last. It's one of my most hated roles.

@heartless: Tell your buddies to dayvig me. Tell me when so I can post my thoughts before that and have a last 1v1 fight.
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Post Post #7673 (isolation #119) » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:39 am

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Sorry for the rage guys. I'm going out for a smoke to chill.
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Post Post #7686 (isolation #120) » Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:21 am

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@TSO: Who said I'm voting you because you're scum? I'm voting you cause everyone wants this lynch and I consider you an annoyance. I don't think you are incredibly town either.

As you can see until you are lynched many people will not stop voting for you and not listening to other stuff.
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Post Post #7690 (isolation #121) » Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:34 am

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In post 7688, T S O wrote:
In post 7686, vezokpiraka wrote:@TSO: Who said I'm voting you because you're scum? I'm voting you cause everyone wants this lynch and I consider you an annoyance. I don't think you are incredibly town either.

As you can see until you are lynched many people will not stop voting for you and not listening to other stuff.


So you're voting for a policy lynch, then.

Why was this not made explicitly clear?


Because it was, but you missed when you didn't read the thread.
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Post Post #7693 (isolation #122) » Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:42 am

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In post 7320, vezokpiraka wrote:
In post 7319, mastin2 wrote:
In post 7317, vezokpiraka wrote:I'm still waiting for the part where this makes you super town.
To be honest, I was kinda hoping to have a guilty, here. There's a reason I went for MAGUA, after all. :P
Woulda made my plan be much better. Imagine this.

Magua, a player who is widely townread save for one player, is suddenly called scum via cop guilty by me...and then gets dayvigged.
Given scum's position, would that be anywhere even remotely smart play from scum? No, it'd be suicidal play. (Another reason I targeted Magua over TSO. Everyone thinks TSO is scum. What do you need a cop result for?)

Admit it, you'd conftown me for that act. I wouldn't even need to claim the entirety of my role, even though I probably would anyway.

The plan didn't account for me getting an innocent result. :oops:

It's less-than-ideal, but it still works.
Speaking of which, while I planned for today (albeit not for today's result), I didn't take the time to plan for after that, so I need to think of a new bees target, especially if TSO dies be it via lynch or dayvig.


If you would've copped TSO it would've made me feel better. TSO is most probably town, but there is still the little paranoia that thinks he might be scum.

Can someone dayvig heartless btw? I don't really want to have him governor himself or something stupid like that.

In post 7420, vezokpiraka wrote:Fine.
vote tso


@zelnik: If he flips town you are going to sheep my votes until the end.


Do you think I magically change reads halfway to writing my posts?
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Post Post #7779 (isolation #123) » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:26 pm

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dram: why dis you not prod or replace anyone???


I don't understand how drixx thinka this game is slugging when we 16 pagea in a day.
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Post Post #7820 (isolation #124) » Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:29 am

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In post 7819, ZZZX wrote:
In post 7813, Imperium wrote:
In post 7801, ZZZX wrote:And I hate vezok play so much I am about to vote him..



You can feel free to respond to .

That's actually an open invitation. Anyone voting or wanting to vote vezok is free to respond to that post.

Also, where do you people think the missing night kill went last night and how are you skipping over the fact that tso was blocked last night?

his claim can (or cant) be to protect a partner

i honestly dont think metal has a partner after thinking but thinking further i believe vezok's claim is protecting him for one. Also I am sure the scum must have some way to go throu the countless freaking docs we have this game which would take out metal who have done alot to them.

so you see both vezok and metal look fishy. I am honestly scared of metal because he is a great scum player and he CAN and MIGHT trick us all and win this if he was scum/3rd


Maybe scum have ways of passing protects, but I make people action-immune. Scum may have a way around that as an ultimate or something, but I highly doubt that's the case.
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Post Post #7867 (isolation #125) » Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:14 pm

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In post 7862, Imperium wrote:Subject: You could be anyone II - Game Over

vezokpiraka wrote:I am going to call AJ nearly confirmed town. Just from that one post. Deal with it.

Oh god. All the others reads were spot on. This is just bad.
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Post Post #7898 (isolation #126) » Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:31 am

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In post 7892, T S O wrote:Insert giant middle finger image here.

Hope my green flip blows your mind.


It will blow my mind. What kind of third party are you?
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Post Post #8052 (isolation #127) » Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:26 am

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I just don't understand where heartless is coming from unless he's scum with TSO.

Antihero played with me a bunch of times. Even modded a game I played in. He knows how to read me. That slot needs to be vigged.
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Post Post #8115 (isolation #128) » Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:31 pm

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We may be bitching here, but TOAS and Fpurtrouble haven't posted in 10, respectively 6 days. We need their replacements and fast.
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Post Post #8139 (isolation #129) » Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:16 am

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I want tso dead just so he'll stop posting shit and arguing with zelnik
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Post Post #8175 (isolation #130) » Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:34 pm

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In post 8141, T S O wrote:
In post 7420, vezokpiraka wrote:Fine.
vote tso


@zelnik: If he flips town you are going to sheep my votes until the end.

In post 8052, vezokpiraka wrote:I just don't understand where heartless is coming from unless he's scum with TSO.

Antihero played with me a bunch of times. Even modded a game I played in. He knows how to read me. That slot needs to be vigged.

In post 8139, vezokpiraka wrote:I want tso dead just so he'll stop posting shit and arguing with zelnik


Ladies and gentlemen, vezokpiraka.


Where again did I said I scumread you in this 3 posts?
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Post Post #8185 (isolation #131) » Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:30 pm

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In post 8176, ZeL1nK2 wrote:There's a suggestion that the second post there doesn't make sense unless you're scum reading TSO.

For example, why did you not think Heartless was white-knighting TSO? Why did you think scum with TSO?


That wasn't meant that I was scum reading TSO.

That meant that heartless doesn't make sense for me at all. The only way I could somehow see his posts to make sense if he was scum with TSO, but I don't really think that. We will see after a TSO flip.
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Post Post #8186 (isolation #132) » Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:30 pm

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In post 8176, ZeL1nK2 wrote:There's a suggestion that the second post there doesn't make sense unless you're scum reading TSO.

For example, why did you not think Heartless was white-knighting TSO? Why did you think scum with TSO?


That wasn't meant that I was scum reading TSO.

That meant that heartless doesn't make sense for me at all. The only way I could somehow see his posts to make sense if he was scum with TSO, but I don't really think that. We will see after a TSO flip.
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Post Post #8206 (isolation #133) » Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:47 pm

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That makes me Italy?
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Post Post #8276 (isolation #134) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:16 am

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In post 8275, T S O wrote:I am warning you, my lynch isn't going to work. Do not target me with that ability.

This is not bravado.

He might be telling the truth. Heartless probably governored his lynch.
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Post Post #8278 (isolation #135) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:00 am

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In post 8277, ooba wrote:
In post 8276, vezokpiraka wrote:Heartless probably governored his lynch.

No way!

Heartless-town wouldn't have done that.


I wanted to write something sarcastic, but I have nothing.

Let's lynch heartless and finish this faster.
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Post Post #8312 (isolation #136) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:07 am

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In post 8299, T S O wrote:
In post 8280, Magua wrote:Hey.

TSO.

Hey.

Two questions.

Question one. Assume vezokpiraka is town. Who would you prefer to lynch?

Question two. You did absolutely fuck all nothing until you came under pressure, at which point you explode with defense. Why should I think you're town at all? Smarmy answers like "I'm town" or "because I'm awesome" can be discarded immedaitely.


1. MS, TWIE

2. You don't have a reason, really. I know I'm town. Doesn't mean I have the tools to definitely prove it.


You want to kill me and MS? These are your primary targets? The paranoia might have destroyed your central nervous system.
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Post Post #8352 (isolation #137) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:10 pm

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@tso: you could've just claimed chronos and we would've figuted something out, but you kept it a secret until now.
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Post Post #8354 (isolation #138) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:43 pm

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Chronos in game has an ultimate that returns him 8 seconds in time. That's what probably happened.
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Post Post #8426 (isolation #139) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:31 am

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In post 8424, ooba wrote:Good luck trying to lynch me.

Vote: TSO


Don't see anything in the mod post saying this can't happen - could be a simple vote reset power [Chronos and all] - worth trying out.


And I thought you were town.

vote ooba


Why do you have two votes heartless?
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Post Post #8453 (isolation #140) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:57 pm

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Call me when you man up and decide to lynch scum and not slots that aren't even playing.
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Post Post #8500 (isolation #141) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:28 am

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Whoever asked someone not on tso wagon to vote is so dumb he needs to become a treestump. If a majority of players can't vote for tso there is no way we can lynch him.
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Post Post #8502 (isolation #142) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:37 am

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Dude. We barely managed to get conseus on that lynch. In what kind of backwards world do you live in where rolefishing a proved role is a good idea to advance the game state?
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Post Post #8505 (isolation #143) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:13 am

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In post 8503, ZeL1nK2 wrote:...

Firstly, it's not like Drixx was doing anything else with his vote, so I'm not harming the game state in any way.

Secondly, there is no harm in testing possibilities.

Thirdly, there is no "role-fishing" going on here.

At worst, nothing happens and I move on happy that I can rule something out. At best, we find out TSO was lying. I don't think this is likely, but it does not hurt to find out.

Look. Deathtunneling TSO was fun and productive. Now that that is over you need to move on or I'll consider you a scumbutt that is unhappy his mislynch failed.
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Post Post #8523 (isolation #144) » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:15 am

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In post 8519, ZeL1nK2 wrote:I would have liked to see a replacement for that slot but I have no issues with lynching it regardless. Other than the fact that people seem opposed to "lurker" lynches so I don't even know if there'd be enough support for it.

Then again, with how many people aren't playing the game at the moment, it's hard to gauge how much support there is for any lynch.

You are trying to say that we don't want to lynch taos because he is a lurker.

We don't want to lynch Taos because he is town. Are you sure you aren't scum with all these pushes on town?
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Post Post #8558 (isolation #145) » Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:45 pm

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Evertone vote ooba so we can end thsi crappy this.
This day is so bad that it wants to kill itself.
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Post Post #8575 (isolation #146) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:16 am

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I didn't talk about that read for a long time because ms wasn't in the game. Then he comes back day 2 and I start to talk to him. In the meantime I reread stuff and thought about other stuff some more and I thought MS was scum. That changed after the vig though. I'm not sure what you are asking me.
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Post Post #8628 (isolation #147) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:36 am

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In post 8624, Otolia wrote:
In post 8623, Magua wrote:
I'm conftown.
You claim your actions now or die.

Prove it.

He got cop cleared by mastin.

Also please claim because we need to know what your slot did.
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Post Post #8658 (isolation #148) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:53 am

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In post 8656, Otolia wrote:
In post 8655, Magua wrote:
In post 8650, Magua wrote:You could say why you were so obstructionist about claiming info you didn't have rather than just saying "mod didn't tell me" at the beginning


@Otolia:
Answer please.

Sorry I thought I answered that but apparently it got lost in the numerous tabs I got open for this game. :(

Basically, I came in, and I get jumped on. I don't know how powerful my abilities can be in this setting. I don't recognize anyone from my neighboorhood (they're all freaking dead). I didn't even know everyone was in a neighborhood. Basically I'm in the dark and you want me to claim. I understood that as a full name-claim instead of my history (that's a mistake on my part and that's why I'm posting this) and my favorite game on MS was actually blown open by such a thing. You should remember you were in there. So basically I do the only thing that makes sense immediately : I try to understand what the fuck is going on. Meanwhile dramonic isn't answering me ...


Oh my god. This game was awesome.
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Post Post #8669 (isolation #149) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:15 pm

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In post 8665, Magua wrote:
@mastin:
How come you didn't cop TSO N2?

He missed the deadline. We've been over this.
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Post Post #8675 (isolation #150) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:56 pm

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I'm sorry, but I'm starting to hate these replacements that don't do anything. I don't want you to read all the thread,but at least do something.
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Post Post #8681 (isolation #151) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:02 pm

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In post 8680, mastin2 wrote:In fact, I just did the checking myself: Tuesday the 10th at 2+ in the morning? The day I posted the message?
Was the first day I was back from my four-day V/LA. It was, therefore, the beginning of D3 in this game for me.

Tuesday the 10th, at that same time, was also the beginning of D3 for me in Drawn on Arrival.
Both games had, simultaneously, had their games go into night two (DOA mighta been a BIT sooner), and emerge on day three, during my absence.

(Fun fact: I no-actioned in THAT game's N2 as well, producing a helpful self-watch result that identified Honey Bee as our motivator.)


Can you please for the love of all that is holy and sacred in this world stop defending yourself by saying the same thing 11 different times in long posts?

We get it. You weren't around. Sometimes people forget, because that was nearly a month ago. It's enough to tell them once.
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Post Post #8695 (isolation #152) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:32 am

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unvote
vote heartless
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Post Post #8716 (isolation #153) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:36 pm

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In post 8715, Otolia wrote:
In post 8714, ZZZX wrote:We get close to lynxhing tso? Magic happens.

We waba lynch a b and c? Oh a and b can't die and c is lynxh proof

Who's unlynchable ? Who can't die ?

He's talking about himself, drixx and mastin.
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Post Post #8734 (isolation #154) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:19 am

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Is anyone at all lynchable today?
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Post Post #8815 (isolation #155) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:31 am

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It makes me smile when scum get pissed they can't mislynch me.
Can we lynch ooba today?
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Post Post #8875 (isolation #156) » Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:38 am

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Idk what magua is asking. I'm liking otolia more and more.
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Post Post #8972 (isolation #157) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:27 am

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Can we end this suffering faster?


Also shouldn't we PM the backup mod to ask him to step in?
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Post Post #9006 (isolation #158) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:26 am

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PLEASE END THIS DAY.

IT'S STARTING TO TAKE THE LIFEFORCE OUT OF ME. WE JUST HAD TWO PAGES OF ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. HALF THE TOWN DOESN'T HAVE VOTES.
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Post Post #9008 (isolation #159) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:01 am

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In post 9007, ZeL1nK2 wrote:I agree, let's lynch Otolia and end this godsforsaken day.

How about you shut up and vote for no lynch if you don't want to lynch heartless.
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Post Post #9018 (isolation #160) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:12 am

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I'm not sure if I'll post anything until deadline, but I'll probably protect mastin or metal sonic.
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Post Post #9044 (isolation #161) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 7:09 am

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Hmmm.

So last night didn't happen quite the way I hoped. No problem at least we know imperium is confirmed town and ooba is 99% town.

I say we lynch skybird.
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Post Post #9055 (isolation #162) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:36 am

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I didn't target you.

I'm not doccing my scum reads.
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Post Post #9109 (isolation #163) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:58 pm

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Me and magua had a plan for tonight. I targrted him so I don't know what happened to skybird. Magua knows what I did and he can vouch for me.
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Post Post #9146 (isolation #164) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:49 am

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In post 9145, Drixx wrote:I want to emphasize that last question:

Do we have some reason to be really sure about TSO being scum? Like ... is the reason we should vote him solid enough that it would prompt you to tell us to trust you and vote him in a "lynch scum or lose the game" situation?

I'm pretty sure TSO is still unkilable so all your votes are kinda useless.
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Post Post #9351 (isolation #165) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:41 am

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In post 9348, ZeL1nK2 wrote:TSO is a good vig shot because he's probably being lynched today.

Vig him now and we can sort out the lynch afterwards based on the flip.

If you vig TSO and he flips scum, it lets us decide the best lynch based on it. If he flips town, it forces a read reset for at least a fair few players (myself included) before deciding on a lynch.

If you vig, say, TWIE instead, then either he flips scum and yay or he flips town and we essentially gain nothing. At all. He's controversial in some sense and probably a tertiary scum read for some but he's not a huge suspicion for most players.


Can we shoot this? It's giving me scummy vibes and I don't like the way he's chaining mislynches.
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Post Post #9359 (isolation #166) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:37 am

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In post 9352, Metal Sonic wrote:
vezok. 3 names.

zelink, twie, ankamius.
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Post Post #9400 (isolation #167) » Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:51 pm

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Ms vig someone please.
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Post Post #9406 (isolation #168) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:58 am

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Can the mod just kill off these slots instead of searching for replacements?

I don't think anyone is willing to read 377 pages.
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Post Post #9409 (isolation #169) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:39 am

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In post 9408, Imperium wrote:you do realize you could just shoot espeonage right

Why would he shoot someone if the mod is going to kill him anyway?
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Post Post #9487 (isolation #170) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:39 pm

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Do you something that protects you from strongmans or not?
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Post Post #9492 (isolation #171) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:53 am

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In post 9488, Metal Sonic wrote:no

i think strongmans kills always go through thats the definition


I'm not sure how a strongman works in this game. I mean it could only go through protects or it could go through everything including, roleblocks, redirects or other shenenigans.
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Post Post #9591 (isolation #172) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 7:26 am

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Fuck. I protected myself last noght because magua said it was weird that scum wouldn't shoot the doc and that made me think that I might get killed. Sorry that I didn't protect you magua.
I'm not wanting to lynch ms though. This is town ms.
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Post Post #9613 (isolation #173) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:16 am

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In post 9608, Drixx wrote:Magua came up innocent. And yes she copped Imperium. Hindsight bias makes that seem bad because we saw Imperium flip and get resurrected.

Who the fuck thought imperium was scum? This is no hindsight. This is just bad actions.
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Post Post #9654 (isolation #174) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:48 pm

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Ms: come here and tell us you have a shot.
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Post Post #9656 (isolation #175) » Fri May 01, 2015 12:58 am

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vla for 2 days
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Post Post #9786 (isolation #176) » Sun May 03, 2015 4:06 pm

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@zelink: ms claimed he rolecopped otolia and he's scum for fakeclaimimg.
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Post Post #9791 (isolation #177) » Sun May 03, 2015 7:39 pm

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We need two protects on imperium for it to work.
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Post Post #9793 (isolation #178) » Sun May 03, 2015 7:58 pm

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The kill gets blocked by imperiums passive. I'm not wasting two protects on someone that has a protective passive.
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Post Post #9822 (isolation #179) » Mon May 04, 2015 4:38 pm

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dram:
aren't there gamrs with over 600 pages?
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Post Post #9824 (isolation #180) » Mon May 04, 2015 6:15 pm

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Holy shit. This game is big.
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Post Post #9846 (isolation #181) » Wed May 06, 2015 4:32 am

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Shoot TWIE and wait for imperium to come back because I have no idea who we should lynch tomorrow.
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Post Post #9871 (isolation #182) » Wed May 06, 2015 9:54 am

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In post 9869, ZZZX wrote:Metal Sonic - << third party
Skybird - << no idea
Otolia - << no idea
TheWayItEnds - << leaning scum gut read
Zel1nk - << null(like hes in the middle, not the no idea)
Ooba - << no idea
ZZZX - << town
Magua - << town
vezokpiraka - << scummy
Espeonage - << no clue
Drixx - << town
Imperium - << no clue atm

my read list is sucky but its what i have before a full read


Biggest game on site. Been here since the beginning. Entire read list is null to null scum with two town reads.
How do you manage this zzzx? Tell me your secrets!
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Post Post #9899 (isolation #183) » Thu May 07, 2015 5:55 am

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In post 9891, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 9847, Ollie wrote:Metal Sonic -
Skybird -
Otolia -
TheWayItEnds -
Zel1nk -
Ooba -
ZZZX -
Magua -
vezokpiraka - TWIE (mark undecided)
Espeonage -
Drixx -
Imperium -


shoot vezok.


Can we kill this faster?
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Post Post #9990 (isolation #184) » Thu May 07, 2015 4:16 pm

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vote otolia


I will follow magua's plan.
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Post Post #10036 (isolation #185) » Thu May 07, 2015 6:59 pm

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But that would block and I want magua to still be alive.

I will protect you if it comes to that, but I'd prefer zzzx does it.
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Post Post #10079 (isolation #186) » Fri May 08, 2015 4:22 am

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Magua. Otolia is the only solid lead we have. I actually think shes scum
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Post Post #10085 (isolation #187) » Fri May 08, 2015 4:40 am

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In post 10082, Magua wrote:tbf: I don't care.

Otolia is going to get lynched.

I'm just annoyed that everyone was like "lol TSO is so obv scum" => TSO town flip.

And now its "lol Otolia is so obv scum."

I do not have any faith that Otolia is going to flip scum. But what I really want is a little more critical thinking so that tomrorow, when he's flipped, the conversation does not simply become "lol Skybird is so obv scum" or something.


Tso was lynched because he was useless. I knew he was town.
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Post Post #10091 (isolation #188) » Fri May 08, 2015 10:02 am

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In post 10089, Magua wrote:
In post 10085, vezokpiraka wrote:Tso was lynched because he was useless. I knew he was town.


Then why were you voting him in ?

Yes. Did you actually read what I posted that day? I said I am sure that tso is town, but I want to lynch juat so zelnick will shut up.
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Post Post #10092 (isolation #189) » Fri May 08, 2015 10:03 am

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In post 10088, Imperium wrote:hey vezok, could you claim your character & flavor pls?

I'm athena.
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Post Post #10116 (isolation #190) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:56 am

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In post 10114, dramonic wrote:
I was getting ready to modkill Ooba before I opened that spoiler tag.
Don't scare me like that ._.


So you are telling us he fakeclaimed?
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Post Post #10134 (isolation #191) » Sun May 10, 2015 6:55 pm

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Lynch otolia, talk tomorrow.
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Post Post #10161 (isolation #192) » Mon May 11, 2015 4:28 am

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In post 10157, Imperium wrote:Town lynches Otolia
Drixxx supervigs Vezok
Ollie shoots Espeonage
Snowflake protects us
Ollie submits no mark
ZZZX protects whoever
Vezok protects whoever

this is currently what i'm thinking is happening today!
zelink's action requires a certain amount of secrecy, so it's not in THE PLAN


I'm down with this as long as the super vigs doesn't kill me.

Otherwise I''m protecting myself.
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Post Post #10167 (isolation #193) » Mon May 11, 2015 4:46 am

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In post 10162, Magua wrote:What

Like, is that an option?


Yes. I did it last night instead of protecting you or imperium because I was afraid scum would try to kill me.
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Post Post #10215 (isolation #194) » Tue May 12, 2015 2:20 am

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In post 10206, Imperium wrote:Updated Plan with Drixx's ability explained:

Town lynches Otolia
Ollie shoots Espeonage
Snowflake protects Imperium
Ollie submits mark on Metal Sonic (who Drixx will super hammer tomorrow)
ZZZX protects whoever
Vezok protects Imperium



I don't quite follow the part where you think MS is scum unlyanchable dayvig but ok.
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Post Post #10217 (isolation #195) » Tue May 12, 2015 2:48 am

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In post 10216, ZeL1nK2 wrote:What does that even mean?


Imperium wants drixx to super hammer ms. I find it highly unlikely that ms is scum with a dayvig and is unlynchable. This is the only problem I have with the plan.
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Post Post #10239 (isolation #196) » Tue May 12, 2015 5:45 am

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unvote


For ooba.
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Post Post #10272 (isolation #197) » Tue May 12, 2015 7:37 am

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In post 10271, ooba wrote:I think this is a good time to re-visit neighbourhoods

CHINESE :
Metal
, Skybird, TWIE
NORSE:
The Mask
, Ace,
AP

MAYAN: Xombie, ZZZX,
Mastin

ROMAN:
Imperium
,
Solar
, Bitmap, TD
HINDU:
Pere
,
Farside
,
FT,
Anamikus

GREEK: Magua, Vezo,
Beast
,
TSO

EGYPTIAN:
ooba
,
ceph
,
heartless
,
andy


Revisited the MS wagon before he took his shot.

Metal Sonic (7): Heartless, The Mask, Cephrir, PeregrineV, Skybird, TSO, TiphaineDeath

Unless scum gambited for MS to kill both their mass role blocker and block their Joat for N2 for a *hopeful* dream that MS survives till the end, he is town.


Yeah. The wagon formed very organically and it doesn't like a bussing job. Also MS has been town as shit. I still don't understand why people want him dead.
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Post Post #10334 (isolation #198) » Tue May 12, 2015 4:08 pm

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vote otolio


End the day. End the day.
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Post Post #10359 (isolation #199) » Wed May 13, 2015 4:28 am

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In post 10357, Magua wrote:Rolestopping also blocks investigations.


You know my abilities. Why would've I used the non-ult rolestop on a scum partner?
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