SMITE Role Madness Mafia (OVER AT LAST!)

[Cephrir]

It's not your--

Oh. Right. I was supposed to stop.

[ZZZX]

Anyway we should stop before he SMITES us...

can someone start a serious conversation because i cant think of anything... metal sonic halp

[T S O]

I can't tell who's the better comedian between ZZZX and Cephrir - the two of them are comedic geniuses and will go down in the Hall of Fame as aliens with advanced humour complexes which mere mortals like TWIE and I could not hope to compete against.

[vezokpiraka]

Can we end this day faster?

[Magua]

If I didn't have such a townread on the TiphaineDeath slot, I'd be scumreading ZeL1nK hard. Really reads as trying too hard to be flippant. Too many silly questions ("Hey, who thinks the wagon on me is all town" etc). But, eh, TiphaineDeath, so still think the slot is town.

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F16 and Ozgin: I don't think F16 gave a flying fuck about Ozgin, personally. The impression I get is "as good as any." Pretty goddamn certain that F16's "Ozgin is confirmed scum I'm a daycop and I copped him" schtick was because he wanted Cephrir dead, and, having already submitted the loverize on Cephrir and Ozgin, getting Ozgin lynched was the only way that was going to happen.

Pretty much the entire setup of the Ozgin wagon previous to the failhammer is disinterested compared to afterwards.

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FourTrouble shoot

TSO, Ooba, or Skybird

after 5952 and 5956 it should be Skybird. Skybird doesn't care about who gets shot, as long as it's not her.

Mmmmm. TSO doesn't even mention FT's shot. Still read Skybird as worse.

If FourTrouble hits scum, I'll happily sheep FT for the rest of the game. If not, still really want to lynch him.

Do not want to no lynch.

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Didn't see anything worth reading in pgs 242-247 so here we are. Neighborhood spec is stupid, but the arguing about the neighborhood spec is somehow equally stupid. Both Andrius' and ZeL1nK's posts about maf theory seem pointless.

Shoot Skybird.

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Metal Sonic: Dayvig shoots scum, happily let him live until lylo because I'm gullible like that.

Mastin2: Townread is lessened from before. A lot contingent on being able to prove ZZZX, etc town D3. The paranoid part of me is thinking that TiphaineDeath roleblocking him did stop the Mafia kill.

Skybird: From nothing to scum. Posts seem entirely based on self-presevation + asking questions. No mention of who's scum. No caring about anyone else, but jumps up when Cephrir suggests shooting her.

theaceofspades: Mmmmmeeeeeeehhhhh. Redeeming factors are circumstantial, eg, Peregrine voting him, vote thieving D1, that's really about it.

Ozgin: Still think he's town, hasn't changed.

TheWayItEnds: God, him and TSO, I just want to vig them both. For reasons I cannot even adequately explain I still think he's townier than TSO, but, low bar, etc.

ZeL1nK: TiphaineDeath's roleblock of mastin. ZeL1nK posts started out terrible, have gotten slightly better, overall meh. Coasting on TiphaineDeath townread.

Ooba: Still think he's scum. Still don't like the "If I was mafia, I would've done the reverse!" self meta.

ZZZX: Slightly town, maybe, but this is mostly mastin is super-100%-sure-he's-town.

Farside22: Gladiated, disappeared. Came back, hasn't said much. Doesn't change overall light scumread.

FourTrouble: Quoting myself here because this hasn't changed at all: "He's done stuff. He's like TSO and TWIE but with more content and actual stances and thoughts and reasons and stuff. Find his posting stilted and not-fluid, unsure if that's just playstyle or not." Except I know that of Ozgin/ZeL1nK/FourTrouble, the one I want to lynch most is FourTrouble. Hope he shoots Skybird.

Cephrir: I sort of want Cephrir to be scum just to spite F16. But I don't feel that the chance of Cephrir being scum is more than the chance of Ozgin being town. Also possible save by vezokpiraka. So leaving alone for now. Revisit later.

Imperium: No longer think that Imperium is scum, in large part due to F16's insistence that they were town and F16 being town.

Andrius: Only thing I can recall Andrius going on about now is neighborhood setup spec and drunkposting, and neither of those make me think that he's town.

The Mask: Says stupid things, is called on saying stupid things, disappears.

Ankamius: As close to nothing as possible to get without being nothing

T S O: Useless waste of posting space who needs to die and is hopefully if there is a God on this earth scum.

vezokpiraka: Probably town, due to pre-emptive doctor claim + reactions to beastcharizard in neighborhood.

Espeonage: I like Espeonage's posts so far. Agree with them. I like people I agree with.

Xombie: Nothing.

Heartless: Still more town than Imperium. Blah blah paranoia but low on the list.

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So:

Town (S->W): Metal Sonic -----------> vezokpiraka --> mastin2 --> ZeL1nK --------> Ozgin --> ZZZX (based off of mastin) --> Cephrir -------------> Espeonage -> FourTrouble -> Heartless --> Imperium

Scum (S->W): Skybird --> TSO --> Ankamius --> Andrius ------> ooba --> farside --> TheWayItEnds --> aceofspades --> xombie

Scumread order hasn't changed overmuch except that Skybird's moved up and Imperium's a townread.

Yes, I'm voting a townread. dealwithit.jpg.

For emphasis since I'm aware I'm already voting him:

VOTE: FourTrouble

Shoot Skybird.

[ZZZX]

f I didn't have such a townread on the TiphaineDeath slot, I'd be scumreading ZeL1nK hard. Really reads as trying too hard to be flippant. Too many silly questions ("Hey, who thinks the wagon on me is all town" etc). But, eh, TiphaineDeath, so still think the slot is town.

you must think about this because i have been tricked like that before.

[ZZZX]

Why are you voting ur team read to shoot someone while you can lynch whoever you want ded...?

[Magua]

One might infer that me noting it there is, in fact, me thinking about it.

The biggest item for me is that I'm pretty sure TiphaineDeath was telling the truth about roleblocking mastin, and the pre-emptive claiming about all of that looks town. TiphaineDeath-scum could've also easily roleblocked mastin-town, but I would not expect them to open D2 claiming so.

PEdit: I understand each of the words you said, and yet do not understand your meaning.

[Cephrir]

PEdit: I understand each of the words you said, and yet do not understand your meaning.

Let me translate: "I am somehow unaware there was a gladiate today"

[ZZZX]

One might infer that me noting it there is, in fact, me thinking about it.

The biggest item for me is that I'm pretty sure TiphaineDeath was telling the truth about roleblocking mastin, and the pre-emptive claiming about all of that looks town. TiphaineDeath-scum could've also easily roleblocked mastin-town, but I would not expect them to open D2 claiming so.

PEdit: I understand each of the words you said, and yet do not understand your meaning.

Why not just lynch your scum read instead of getting him shot?

[Magua]

Thank you for your accurate translation, Cephrir.

Unfortunately,

I read dumbtells as towntells so this makes me think of ZZZX as more town.

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@ZZZX:

I'm sheeping Metal Sonic, same as you.

[TheWayItEnds]

TheWayItEnds: God

I know I'm good and all, but this seems a little much.

[TheWayItEnds]

Also I would advise against shooting Skybird, because it is unlikely to work.

[Magua]

Although I feel I'm simply walking into a trap here, that's fantastically non-useful.

Also, saying "Don't shoot X" without saying "Shoot Y" is also non-useful, so, congrats on your two-for-one there.

[TheWayItEnds]

Shoot one of Farside, Andy, Ace,

TSO

, or 1 of (ZZZX, Xombie, Mastin) to resolve the fake mason bullshit we have going on.

[TheWayItEnds]

I do like that you want to reproach me for making non-useful posts though.

On maybe the most useful post I've made in pages.

[Magua]

I have this morbid belief that reproaching people for non-useful posts will create useful posts, in defiance of all experience.

Continuing the trend, naming 6 people out of 22 is not particularly useful either. How about you name the one person you think is scummiest.

[TheWayItEnds]

well no, its not that useful.

But its also not my dayvig.

So ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[TheWayItEnds]

I mean I'd probably choose one of the first 3.

But if XXXZ wants to claim that his situation is too complicated to unravel, I think that seeing his rolecard would probably help.

[TheWayItEnds]

I'd maybe actually shoot mastin if I was going that route.

For the roleblock wifom.

[TheWayItEnds]

Or to get rid of it rather.

[Magua]

I understand its not your dayvig. We're playing a little game of pretend.

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Do you think that mastin is scum?

I mean, if you think it's at least 51% that mastin is town, the chances are that shooting him doesn't really resolve anything, does it?

(I mean, I'm paranoid about mastin as well, but I think that shooting him is a bad bet at this point.)

Similarly, do you think ZZZX is scum? If he flips town, what's your gain?

[FourTrouble]

Imperium: No longer think that Imperium is scum, in large part due to F16's insistence that they were town and F16 being town.

You should apply that logic to me.

[TheWayItEnds]

Okay but like telling me to pick 1 when I'd rather give the shooter like a better overall feel doesnt make sense. If I had to shoot this second I dont know if I would pick andy or farside.

Similarly I think I would maybe shoot either Mastin or Xombie, because they've effectively been claiming Mason all day, and now ZZZX says they arent.

I probably wouldnt shoot zxzxzxzxz.

[TheWayItEnds]

But FT says he really wants to hit scum, so id recommend he shoot andy or farside over clearing up the mason thing.