SMITE Role Madness Mafia (OVER AT LAST!)

[ZZZX]

Okay but like telling me to pick 1 when I'd rather give the shooter like a better overall feel doesnt make sense. If I had to shoot this second I dont know if I would pick andy or farside.

Similarly I think I would maybe shoot either Mastin or Xombie, because they've effectively been claiming Mason all day, and now ZZZX says they arent.

I probably wouldnt shoot zxzxzxzxz.

this is a smite game. there is no "simple" role. roles work with each others to create effective stuff. i told ya they are confirmed to each others anyway

[ZZZX]

ZZZX is scum.
Please shoot mastin or the above.
I'm dealing with the choices I made last night. >________>

hm?

[ZZZX]

guess we must wait for the shot. I will be back soon.

[Imperium]

The is no motivation for FT as town to have not just taken the shot by now. The only reason to wait this long is because it serves two purposes for scum.
1. Brings deadline closer, to a point where it might be too hard to push through the lynch.
2. Allows for FT to find out who an accepted target is so that when the person that dies is town, FT can try to avoid being lynched by playing the "I did what you want me to" card.

Neither of those make me feel good.

This would make sense if FT was advocating for a lynch this game day. But he's not, so it doesn't.

[Imperium]

Can you tell me more about Ooba? I just skimmed one of his scum games and he looks very competent.

He is very competent. He is competent enough to play the game he's played as scum. He is certainly competent enough to keep his reads straight as scum. Why would he choose to play this game the way he has?

[Andrius]

You know what? I'm forgetting something.

Vote: FourTrouble

Because outsourcing your vote/bullets is scummy.

[ZeL1nK]

How?

He shoots town that the majority didn't want him to shoot -> He's scum for shooting someone that wasn't scummy
He shoots town that the majority did want him to shoot - > He's scum for not taking responsibility

Does that also apply if a majority of the town suggest a scum player and he takes their advice and shoots them?

Or is he only town if he goes rogue AND hits scum?

[Andrius]

The amount of role-related 'confirming' and weaseling our way around the setup is too high. Role does not confirm alignment. Play confirms alignment. While some people sit here twiddling our thumbs deadline looms ever nearer (TOMORROW) and people make big deals about roles. The teehee game regarding who to shoot is baloney. There's a lot of trying to look good and not once bit of bloodshed.

Game deadline is tomorrow. Please act accordingly.

Limited Access almost all of tomorrow. Do not expect me to be around/reading at all.

[Andrius]

People shouldn't instantly want blood for taking bad vig shots. That's bad play.
I shot Equinox once in a game and while most everyone was upset (except Equinox) no one was like SCUM FOR BAD SHOT.

If you're going to shoot, step up to the plate and do it.

[Imperium]

So, I drank some wine and forgot to check that scum game of ooba's. The fact is I like the self meta. I like the reverse self meta that magua hates. I like that he's appealing to the people who know his town game and saying that there's a reason we read him as town.

I like all that. I like that I think that he's trying to figure out the game. It all hits me in that sweet town spot.

Shoot someone else. Shoot aceofspades or TSO.

I'm going to sleep now zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[ZeL1nK]

The amount of role-related 'confirming' and weaseling our way around the setup is too high. Role does not confirm alignment. Play confirms alignment.

You are very wise, good sir.

People shouldn't instantly want blood for taking bad vig shots.

In a perfect world, all men would be as wise as you, but you and I seem to have not been reading the same game.

[Andrius]

The is no motivation for FT as town to have not just taken the shot by now. The only reason to wait this long is because it serves two purposes for scum.
1. Brings deadline closer, to a point where it might be too hard to push through the lynch.
2. Allows for FT to find out who an accepted target is so that when the person that dies is town, FT can try to avoid being lynched by playing the "I did what you want me to" card.

Neither of those make me feel good.

This would make sense if FT was advocating for a lynch this game day. But he's not, so it doesn't.

Espeonage is brilliant.

[Imperium]

I don't understand.

[T S O]

yawn

[ZeL1nK]

yawn

Good day, Mr O.

If it pleases you, would you kindly respond to the questions I asked in this post?

Thank you.

[vezokpiraka]

How?

He shoots town that the majority didn't want him to shoot -> He's scum for shooting someone that wasn't scummy
He shoots town that the majority did want him to shoot - > He's scum for not taking responsibility

Does that also apply if a majority of the town suggest a scum player and he takes their advice and shoots them?

Or is he only town if he goes rogue AND hits scum?

This is bullshit theory.

Look at Ms. He asked some people who to shoot then shot someone who he wanted. He turned out scum, but that's cause MS is God.

FT is just twindling his thumbs hoping to escape the lynch today. If he wanted to prove his shot he would've shot by now.

[farside22]

Okay here is the problem with a no lynch.
This game is at 252 fucking pages on day fucking 2.
I have not seen anything from anyone that explained td town and no being stupid and obvious is not enough for me.

[ZeL1nK]

Okay here is the problem with a no lynch.
This game is at 252 fucking pages on day fucking 2.

And?

[Metal Sonic]

How?

He shoots town that the majority didn't want him to shoot -> He's scum for shooting someone that wasn't scummy
He shoots town that the majority did want him to shoot - > He's scum for not taking responsibility

Does that also apply if a majority of the town suggest a scum player and he takes their advice and shoots them?

Or is he only town if he goes rogue AND hits scum?

This is bullshit theory.

Look at Ms. He asked some people who to shoot then shot someone who he wanted. He turned out scum, but that's cause MS is God.

FT is just twindling his thumbs hoping to escape the lynch today. If he wanted to prove his shot he would've shot by now.

Why do you read zelink posts? Save your eyes from unnecessary eyestrain and trauma.

[ZeL1nK]

Look at Ms.

I would rather not, in all honesty. No offense to him. I'm sure snowflake-senpai is a great guy, but I feel like reading his ISO would be like staring at the sun. It'll just burn my eyes.

But that aside, you seem to be suggesting that proper play involves shooting from the hip (and I can assure you, no pun was intended here) rather than carefully considering all options and perhaps using your head. I'll take this piece of advice on board. Perhaps tomorrow people should lynch without any discussion. After all, it is pro-town to do everything impulsively. Thinking is what bad guys do.

[ZeL1nK]

FT is just twindling his thumbs hoping to escape the lynch today.

Surely he wouldn't be twiddling his thumbs. What if he accidentally pulled the trigger while doing that?

I think FourTrouble expects there to be no lynch today, so the idea that he's holding out to prevent a lynch is half-right but half-wrong. He's not holding out

to

prevent a lynch, he's holding out

because

there shouldn't be a lynch, ergo he can take his time to decide a target.

[ZeL1nK]

I don't necessarily agree that this is optimal play, but I thought I'd explain it for the people having trouble understanding why it's not a scum-motivated move.

[Metal Sonic]

So it appears td's replacement is just his twin brother with hyperactivity

Well there goes the hype, guys.

[vezokpiraka]

So it appears td's replacement is just his twin brother with hyperactivity

Well there goes the hype, guys.

Like

[farside22]

Okay here is the problem with a no lynch.
This game is at 252 fucking pages on day fucking 2.

And?

And we need flips. The length on this game with 3 dead hasn't lead to much here