Mafia Invictus ~ Game Over!

[DrippingGoofball]

This is a quality wagon.

VOTE: Fate

[DrippingGoofball]

Benmage is town.

[DrippingGoofball]

Hmmmm....


.......

.....No. Not wagonning.

Found a live one!

VOTE: Kublai Khan

[DrippingGoofball]

I don't hate Fate, mate.

I wagon the ones I love.

[DrippingGoofball]

Meaning?

Shush, we want him to bus his buddies,

then

go for the kill.

[DrippingGoofball]

I taught a parakeet to talk.
It told me Spyspy was scum.
WHY SPY
WHY?

Vote: Spy

Arrrrrright! We have a daycop in the game.

TOWN

DrippingGoofball
Benmage
Nautilius (Ellibereth+Nachomamma8 hydra) - daycop
Baby Spice
Ban
Duplicity (Regfan+Shift hydra)
Fate
Gut
Hinduragi
MagnaofIllusion
Quilford
silavor
Tarhalindur
The Illuminati (DemonHybrid+Seraphim hydra)
VitaminR
Zachrulez

SCUM

danceHello (inHimshallibe+PBuG hydra) - not signing posts, deliberate obfuscation
SpyreX - daycop result
Kublai Khan - Fear of wagons

[DrippingGoofball]

Is that list... towniest to scummiest? Or are the town mishmashed?

Only the first three are ordered.

[DrippingGoofball]

K, K

Quilford is town.

[DrippingGoofball]

Stop being such a bonehead, Benmage, we found scum. You don't need to understand. We don't expect you to.

[DrippingGoofball]

...understand things logically.

Wrong game.

[DrippingGoofball]

SpyreX at L-2 after 3 posts and on page 3???

Sorry I can't pass up on this much excitement, also, parakeets.

VOTE: SpyreX

[DrippingGoofball]

Duplicity, Fate, & The Illuminati need to check in.

They're too busy discussing strategy in their QT.

[DrippingGoofball]

I was asleep and missed the fate wagon. I, no joking, would have hammered it for giggles if it got that big before he posted.

It would have felt delicious <3.

We were thinking of doing that to you, but you ruined it by posting. Now it's just spite.

[DrippingGoofball]

You posted.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'd love to comment, but I'm having trouble containing my laughter.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'd love to comment, but I'm having trouble containing my laughter.

Please do. I don't understand; perhaps this is too srsbsns for me.

Okay.

Funniest Day 1 in all of mafiascum history, EVA.

And we were part of it.

Reveal be damned.

[DrippingGoofball]

I can't find anything that made me laugh. I'm really pissed, actually: this isn't what I thought I was getting into.

Yeah I know. But then I remind myself this is a game we play for fun, and this was fun.

Objectively speaking, we probably did no worse than your average 50-day Day 1, and though one can argue we have less information, long day 1 aren't ever re-read properly, so they are counterproductive in some ways. That's how I choose to console myself, the alternative being hitting the bottle.

On the plus side, Fate and silvanor are town.

I will miss Moonbeams whatever his alignment though.

[DrippingGoofball]

On a sidenote, I used to hit the bottle too. but then I realized that you could just pull the cap off... so much easier on my stomach without all the broken glass in it you know.

Haha

I figured it out... don't play with my heart like this!

[DrippingGoofball]

You can't quickhammer Day 1 and then ask that question, silavor.

Vote: Tar

Invictus: silavor

VOTE: Gut

[DrippingGoofball]

Are we really letting the scum know when they can get two townies for the price of one with the NK, while avoiding being invictus'ed themselves?

[DrippingGoofball]

Vote Tarhalindur

There's a mindscrew coming. It may matter.

This is BS's only post thus far.

[DrippingGoofball]

actually, I think all players with the invictus ability should claim. does everyone agree?

I'm sure the scum would like to know. Can we out all the power roles? I'm sure they're curious.

[DrippingGoofball]

Are we really letting the scum know when they can get two townies for the price of one with the NK, while avoiding being invictus'ed themselves?

How can they avoid being Invictus'd themselves?

By not killing players that have invictus'ed them?

[DrippingGoofball]

Are we really letting the scum know when they can get two townies for the price of one with the NK, while avoiding being invictus'ed themselves?

Its use is that of a second lynch... it is beneficial for the town. Even if its a twoforone.... that's one we don't mislynch.

But Invictus is only for NK... not for lynches...

[DrippingGoofball]

I disagree with the invictus claim.

Unless I'm allowed to lie about it.

[DrippingGoofball]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

Sorry I didn't get that.

[DrippingGoofball]

Explain to me the flaw in using invictus as a second lynch please.

Stop humiliating me! I've already admitted that I didn't get we would all use the same target. I thought we'd announce individual targets.

[DrippingGoofball]

[invisible]If Baby Spice's next post doesn't contain 300 words, I'll Invictus her.[/invisible]

[DrippingGoofball]

I strongly dislike the concept of policy lynching.

It took me five years of play, and a week of RL play with Katsuki, to realize the value of policy lynches.

[DrippingGoofball]

Be more vague please.

Some form of sensory input is telling me something about your alignment, weakly.

Weakly?

You two share a QT!

[DrippingGoofball]

Zach + Gut + Duplicity + Baby Spice

What a sorry excuse for a scumteam.

[DrippingGoofball]

THEN WHY ARE THEY BOTH SCUMMY, SMART PANTS?

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB, if you state you now understand the advantages of the voting system can you explain your refrainment from actually taking part in it?

I'm waiting for Baby Spice to make ONE post. Baby Spice has one chance to make an impression, after which I will invictus her.

Thanks Zach for settling the matter, you're town and Gut is the scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

...outwayed the minimal negatives which is incredibly obvious via the statement of

only

potentially downside. DGB, if you state you now understand the advantages of the voting system can you explain your refrainment from actually taking part in it?

Hello Mr Snob,

Can you speak so that the rest of us understand you? Also, it's outweighed, not outwayed. But you probably knew that.

Yours affectionately,

DGB

[DrippingGoofball]

The PARAKEET never lies.
ONWARDS MEN. The OPERATION will succeed.

Where are uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu?

[DrippingGoofball]

Why have you avoided the question we asked?

But prior to outwaying all the options, I have answered your question, Sir, though I deemed it silly tomfoolery. Rush back do your favorite haberdashery, your socks are descending around your ankles, bringing everlasting shame to your poor, poor mamma.

[DrippingGoofball]

PEdit: See Naut posted, will wait for more substance before I get a read. Reason for the lynch seems like an odd thing to try, especially if he's scum.

Perhaps Nautilius has taken ill with psittacosis, disrupting his higher cognitive functioning.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB doesn't need to be questioned.

Sing to "

A spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down

"

A lil' suspicion
Makes the nightkill go away.
The nightkill go away,
The nightkill go away...

[DrippingGoofball]

How was your day DGB?

Why, so glad you asked, the kitchen is half demolished, the workers arrived at a quarter to 5 when there is a whole day of work to do, the cabinet installer was supposed to be there tomorrow but now we're demolishing instead... and the contractor wanted to charge me for something he said he would cover... the electrician didn't understand my instructions... the guy that bought my used kitchen cabinets came to pick them up and many weren't removed yet... I was hungry but no kitchen and Minineko was gone with the car so I couldn't pick up restaurant food... my husband is staying away from the mess coming home late... I had to plaster some holes they made in the walls... and then in between all this I have to look up fancy words to impress Duplicity...

[DrippingGoofball]

Leave Korlash aloooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwne!

[DrippingGoofball]

Fate vs. Korlash

My two favorite players

Don't make me choose

[DrippingGoofball]

INVICTUS STATUS SOLIDIFIED.

KEHAEHAHHAHAAAAAAAA

I dunno, that post upgraded Baby Spice from invictus-anointed to outright lynch-worthy.

[DrippingGoofball]

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesss

VOTE: Baby Spice

invictus: Gut

[DrippingGoofball]

Baby Spice's wincon involves killing townies.

Why invictus her instead of the more sure thing of lynching her?

[DrippingGoofball]

m'argh...

MoI burned me once, I drove him hard to the lynch, he was town.

[DrippingGoofball]

Replacing Quilford; please hold...

The Illuminati has yet to post. Why is this hydra still on the roster? Did they even confirm by PM?

[DrippingGoofball]

Invictus: Baby Spice

[DrippingGoofball]

actually hold on someone do an invictus count.

Whoever has the majority when he gets hammered should be it.

Either Silavor or Baby Spice atm

I've already locked in my choice for Baby Spice to the mod.

[DrippingGoofball]

DDDDDDDGGGGGGBBBBBBB

WHY AREN'T YOU GOING CRAAAZY AT MAGNA NOT CLAIMING?

Déjà vu

[DrippingGoofball]

Illuminati hasn't posted or confirmed.

Somehow Quilford was replaced in an instant.

But Illuminati... not a word from the mod.

[DrippingGoofball]

First link suppose to be http://mafiascum.net/forum/search.php?a ... 7&sr=posts

Why isn't he posting here while being uber-active elsewhere?

[DrippingGoofball]

He just posted in the New York forum a minute ago.

[DrippingGoofball]

Hydra is scum.

One member could have posted and been "replaced" by the hydra later with mod-blessing.

Account not activated is just an excuse.

RL issues - meh, DH has been posting abundantly in other games. Not believing.

VOTE: The Illuminati

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB, what are your thoughts on MoI, Fate and silvalor again, if you've posted them before? Again, I'm on my phone so I can't really ISO you freely; I'm watching some kids at the moment.

I will entertain questions from scum just this once.

I think all three are town. Silavor wagon is like stealing lollipops from toddlers. Too easy. I bet scum is all over it - who would berate them for being upset at a pre-claim sheep-hammer on page 4? It's as safe as oatmeal.

Does that give you the information you need so that you and your scumpals can decide who they should NK?

[DrippingGoofball]

And suddenly you post as DH.

So you could have.

[DrippingGoofball]

Did you think DH was strategically not posting?

I do.

How are you so confident with silavor????? And I'm not checking now.. but have you always seen him town?

I said he was town around the time he hammered, maybe in D1 twilight. Scum is more careful, this was an obv lulz wagon, no scum in their right mind would hammer - even with the Fate-sheeping excuse. It's not a super-strong town read though - mostly it's tainted by the Lurkville Express.

[DrippingGoofball]

Blah blah

scumz do sheep quick hammer lulz wagguns

blah blah blah

Well I don't remember seeing that myself, from my own experience. Mmmmmmm. Maybe I'm wrong.

[DrippingGoofball]

Finally, DGB. She states that Fate, silavor AND MoI are all town reads and that my "strategic lurking" is the scummiest thing she's seen so far despite a quick lynch, a quick wagon and a wagon switch.

Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft

For the love of everything that is OMGUS. You're just upset with me because I voted you right off the bat, and I CAUGHT YOU FOR THE WRONG REASONS.

I never said that it was "the scummiest thing [I've] seen so far."

Because I switched my vote to you, you think you can lie and put words in my mouth?

You're so scum.

Gawd I can't believe I'm discussing with scum, but MoI bleeds town since he came within an inch of his life, I cannot for the life of me EXPLAIN A FATE TOWN READ, Fate-town-reads are mysteries.

3. What else in this game do you find scummy other than my very few posts and my "strategic lurking"? Back this up with evidence.

You just made another scum post, just now. You think "strategic lurking" and a small collection of scummy posts isn't enough? Classic "caught-for-the-wrong-reasons." I'm sorry you played a perfect lurkgame and I caught you with krap reasoning.

why can't silavor be scum with scum bussing him?

Well duh, he could be scum OR town, there might be the same number of scumbags on his wagon.

Do you believe that only scum quick-wagon people who are town only? If it's not, please confirm that it isn't correct so I can mark it down. Thanks.

Pffffffffffffffffffffffft

For YEARS, YEARS and YEARS, I've been insisting that it doesn't matter if the wagon is on town or scum, there's still the same number of scum on the wagon.

SPEAKING OF THE SCUMPUTER

It's really rich of Illuminati to bring up wagon-analysis, coming from a player who was absent from the game for the first 3-4 wagons.

I can't believe he has the nerve to bring up wagon analysis when he was using the "account-non-activated" excuse to lurk for a huge chunk of the game, and now he's conveniently OFF any wagon himself.

[DrippingGoofball]

Hey Ban

SPEAKING OF THE SCUMPUTER

It's really rich of Illuminati to bring up wagon-analysis, coming from a player who was absent from the game for the first 3-4 wagons.

I can't believe he has the nerve to bring up wagon analysis when he was using the "account-non-activated" excuse to lurk for a huge chunk of the game, and now he's conveniently OFF any wagon himself.

Be a sweetheart and comment on the above.

Thanks.

[DrippingGoofball]

-RL happens. PERIOD. DGB. It is a

BOLD

claim to call DH strategically lurking.. and to continue that claim when he's made it abundantly clear RL is fucking him.... The real life claim as some sort of PTW scum coverup is hugely frowned upon on this site, and I do not see DH doing that at all.

Pull the pants off your head, DH at least was posting abundantly elsewhere. How do you explain that RL?

I almost never vote who I think is scummiest. I vote who I think is scummy, and who I think I can get to the noose.

But there's other reasoning for votes... pressure... and as potentially seen here.. reaction testing?

DUH

I started out eager to see how he'd twitch. He's full of twitchy scummy vileness inside. As it turned out.

[DrippingGoofball]

Errr I meant that at dgb not dh.

Yeah but you're

you

.

I don't know this DemonHybrid person.

[DrippingGoofball]

Good news peeps

The scumputer doesn't need flips.

[DrippingGoofball]

INPUT

WAGON 1 (SpyreX): Nautilius, Zachrulez, Tarhalindur, VitaminR, Ban, danceHello, Gut,

DrippingGoofball[/green], Fate, silavor
WAGON 2 (silavor): Fate, Quilford, Duplicity, Benmage, Tarhalindur, Nautilius
WAGON 3 (MoI): Fate, Tarhalindur, Nautilius, VitaminR, silavor, danceHello, Gut, Gammagooey (Quilford), Zachrulez
WAGON 4 (silavor): Duplicity, Benmage, MagnaofIllusion, Ban, Gammagooey, Baby Spice

OUTPUT

2.5 scumzors/9 = 28 points
Nautilius, Zachrulez, Tarhalindur, VitaminR, Ban, danceHello, Gut, Fate, silavor

1.5 scumzors/6 = 25 points
Fate, Quilford/Gammagooey, Duplicity, Benmage, Tarhalindur, Nautilius

2.5 scumzors/9 = 25 points
Fate, Tarhalindur, Nautilius, VitaminR, silavor, danceHello, Gut, Quilford/Gammagooey, Zachrulez

1.5 scumzors/5 = 30 points
Duplicity, Benmage, MagnaofIllusion, Quilford/Gammagooey, Baby Spice

80 = 25+30+25 Gammagooey
78 = 25+25+28 Nautilius
78 = 25+25+28 Fate
78 = 28+25+25 Tarhalindur
58 = 28+30 Ban
53 = 25+28 Zachrulez
53 = 25+28 VitaminR
53 = 25+28 danceHello
53 = 25+28 Gut
53 = 25+28 silavor
50 = 25+25 Benmage
30 = 30 Baby Spice
30 = 30 MagnaofIllusion

Players suspiciously not appearing on any wagons

Duplicity
The Illuminati

[DrippingGoofball]

INPUT

WAGON 1 (SpyreX): Nautilius, Zachrulez, Tarhalindur, VitaminR, Ban, danceHello, Gut,

DrippingGoofball[/green], Fate, silavor
WAGON 2 (silavor): Fate, Quilford, Duplicity, Benmage, Tarhalindur, Nautilius
WAGON 3 (MoI): Fate, Tarhalindur, Nautilius, VitaminR, silavor, danceHello, Gut, Gammagooey (Quilford), Zachrulez
WAGON 4 (silavor): Duplicity, Benmage, MagnaofIllusion, Ban, Gammagooey, Baby Spice

OUTPUT

2.5 scumzors/9 = 28 points
Nautilius, Zachrulez, Tarhalindur, VitaminR, Ban, danceHello, Gut, Fate, silavor

1.5 scumzors/6 = 25 points
Fate, Quilford/Gammagooey, Duplicity, Benmage, Tarhalindur, Nautilius

2.5 scumzors/9 = 25 points
Fate, Tarhalindur, Nautilius, VitaminR, silavor, danceHello, Gut, Quilford/Gammagooey, Zachrulez

1.5 scumzors/5 = 30 points
Duplicity, Benmage, MagnaofIllusion, Quilford/Gammagooey, Baby Spice

80 = 25+30+25 Gammagooey
78 = 25+25+28 Nautilius
78 = 25+25+28 Fate
78 = 28+25+25 Tarhalindur
58 = 28+30 Ban
53 = 25+28 Zachrulez
53 = 25+28 VitaminR
53 = 25+28 danceHello
53 = 25+28 Gut
53 = 25+28 silavor
50 = 25+25 Benmage
30 = 30 Baby Spice
30 = 30 MagnaofIllusion
25 = 25 Duplicity

Players suspiciously not appearing on any wagons

The Illuminati

[DrippingGoofball]

I love breaking DGBs wagondar

It's not broken, we're just starting the calculations with full wagons, no one is eliminated yet.

Mainly, you don't want to be a scummy player in the top tier.

[DrippingGoofball]

When I flip Town please make sure to Invictus Silavor. And if you can't do him please do Nautilus or Gut.

That's it? Just these three? Why them in particular? Splanations, please.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB, why in the HELL are you not voting a main wagon and sitting off spouting wagon analysis?

We've had our lulzwagon yesterday.

I'd rather no-lynch than lynch MoI. I think he's town, and he's useful.

I don't think silavor is scum, but I'm more willing to consider that I could be wrong on that one. And he's not particularly useful.

[DrippingGoofball]

Also think DGB's 'scumputer' is pure bull designed to hide any real reasons/ or lack of reasons, for her reads.

Hello Illuminati's scumpal,

I give plenty of reasons. And the scumputer can't replace a solid town read.

Die,

DGB


Why can't we lynch Illuminati or baby Spice???

[DrippingGoofball]

We still have time, you know.

[DrippingGoofball]

We could lynch real scum today.

Illuminati
Baby Spice

Am I going to have to write up cases?

Arrrrrrrrrrrright. I will.

Coming up.

[DrippingGoofball]

It should be obvious with an iso, though. You lazy bums.

[DrippingGoofball]

But BabySpice? Who is at the bottom of your scumputer list? Err, not getting it.

Hey there's more to the game than the scumputer. Baby Spice falls under the "other reasons" category. I'll writing it up now.

[DrippingGoofball]

Game start: July 3

BABY SPICE

Gut:

Keeps cards close to chest, plays a very tight-lipped game, the few words appear to be carefully weighed and measured, not spontaneous and careless like, say, Fate. Her posting and "reasoning" show not scumhunting, but the following of an agenda that seems at odds with what most of us are doing or posting about.

On iso:

Post #1 - The morning after the SpyreX lulz wagon, VOTES Fate on meta (ignoring silavor, it should be noted), and berates (IIoA) speed lynches in general and a lack of "research" from, presumably, everyone (IIoA) - this goes against the general Fate town read.
Post #2 - invokes RL for lulz-wagon abenteeism, which is a small scumtell.
Post #3 - After berating a lack of "research" in first post, displays a serious lack of research of her own by saying I can't be bothered playing as town, when it's quite the opposite, barring weird circumstances. Worst, she doesn't even explain why I'm allegedly bothering to play more, here, and her response was following a post of mine that was a ONE-LINER. Check it out, I'm not making this stuff up.
Post #4 - Shift (Duplicity) calls her out on the nonsense, and she retorts with an unexplained,

"Yet still noticably more engaged in this one"

- which is completely unsupported by evidence. Then more IIoA in "...with a 24hr night phase, you can bet that the scum have daychat."
Post #5 - Subtly tries to push the embattled MoI against Fate:

"So does that make Fate pro- or anti- town in your eyes?"

- Baby Spice has an agenda.
Post #6 - Prompted by Fate, finally offers an opinion on MoI:

"Dislike him immensely, but he can sure find scum."

Well that says nothing about his alignment, nice question dodge, Baby Spice. She does clarify with an MoI town read later, but that's what I mean when I say she keeps her cards close to her chest. A townie would know they have a town read on another player, and answer truthfully and spontaneously right then and there. But Baby Spice delayed it. Townies don't delay information.
Post #7 - Invitus change to danceHello, quoting SpyreX saying that he hates hydras. Nothing else.
Post #8 - FOS Nautilius. FOS's are scummy.
Post #9 - Now says MoI is town, prefers to vote silavor.
Post #10 - Low-grade IIoA
Post #11 -

"Fate, you're saying that at least two of : Tarhalindur, VitaminR, danceHello, Gut: are scum, assuming you're town. Am I right?"

This smells like a question for planning the NK, as if, should Baby Spice's scum team leave Fate alive or not - why else would she ask this question from a player that she claims is scum?
Post #12 - That post passes the test.

Activity rating (number of posts) =

LOW

Gut 18
silavor 17
Tarhalindur 17
Duplicity 16
VitaminR 13
Baby Spice 13

Voting record:

Tarhalindur (RVS) = pass
Fate > meta reasons = BAD
silavor > agrees with Benmage begrudgingly = pass

Invictus record:

DGB = BAD
danceHello > policy on hydra being bad, accompanied by a quote from SpyreX making that very claim. = BAD

[DrippingGoofball]

Game start: July 3
Illuminati start: July 8
Between those dates, DH made about 2-3 dozen posts in other games, GD, etc.

THE ILLUMINATI

Gut:

Both heads seem at odds and not communicating much. Strategic lurking. HUGE wall of RL - which is my pet tell, which is tried to argue against and failed because DH was posting elsewhere and could have easily posted here, and instead the hydra washed its hands clear of the Day 1 lulzwagon. This hydra is crawling under the weight of making excuses about being a hydra, RL, cell phones, babysitting, long work week, you name it. Tries to avoid voting. Went rabid OMGUS on me, never voted. Fence-sits and waffles on everything else. Avoided naming an invictus, too.

Below is an example of SELECTIVE RL EXCUSES for this game, in DemonHybrid posts:

Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:25 am

"Again,

I'm on my phone

so

I can't really ISO you

freely;

I'm watching some kids

at the moment. I will entertain questions from scum

just this onc

e."

13 MINUTES earlier,

in another game:

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 9#p3218029

ZERO mention of these RL inconveniences.

On iso:

Post #1 - Skimmed the thread, finds no wrong with silavor's hammers, goes on with some worthless IIoA. Conveniently relies VCA to decide where to vote: "I'm going to be crosschecking the most recent wagon with SpyreX's in a bit and voting the person most prominently on both" - Easy to do, since Illuminati was lurking hard during said incriminating wagons. I don't think he followed up on this.
Post #3 - Bringing up RL a lot scumtell, may I remind everyone that DH was hugely busy in other games. Working many hours, plus baliming the cell phone again.
Post #4 - Threatens to iso me to check for consistency. Either didn't follow up, or didn't follow up with discovery that I was indeed "consistent."
Post #5 - Attempts the strawman the fact that he was lurking in this game and posting like mad elsewhere for days.
Post #6 - Goes ballistic over his lone attacker calling out his lurking.
Post #7 - Giant wall of real life excuses that never seem to get in the way of other games.
Post #8 - More RL excuses, more cell phone blaming, a to-do list.
Post #10 -

"For the record, I'm not calling silavor town nor scum. I'm just saying that the hammer means absolutely nothing."

Keeps options open on silavor. Mostly makes petulant demands on other players.
Post #15, 16 - Two large OMGUS on DGB, hydra still hasn't taken a stand on anything else.
Post #18 - A happy, clueless Seraphim makes an apparition to say he hasn't read the game and hopes to be updated by DH.
Post #19 - A promise to lurk moar.
Post #20 - Votes off the main wagon onto the easy silavor failwagon, blaming the hydra now:

"This read is subject to change and not because I'm a hydra"

Post #21 - First post that is not absolutely scummy.

Activity rating (number of posts) =

MEDIUM-LOW

Ranks #11 out of 18 living players, but some posts are hydra signature EBWOPs.

Voting record:

silavor, after much fence sitting and ripped up trousers = BAD

Invictus record:

none detected

[DrippingGoofball]

Would happily switch to Baby Spice or Gut if there's interest in lynching them today. (Which I haven't seen to this point.)

Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

I would be on these wagons like white on rice.

But upon detailed analysis, I think the Illuminati is the scummiest player slot that has ever scummed. Illuminati makes Baby Spice look like a paragon of townie goodness, that's not small "compiment."

[DrippingGoofball]

Gammagooey claimed third party? Did I get this right?

[DrippingGoofball]

So, Gut, you could have been useful and insightful, and you chose NOT to?

VOTE: Gut

[DrippingGoofball]

MoI & Gut are each at L-2.

Which is uber-karmic-cool since Gut put MoI at L-2.

[DrippingGoofball]

@ Duplicity

Which wagon would you pick? Gut, or MoI?

[DrippingGoofball]

The problem I have is that although chamber and CES aren't verbose, they do have insight. The fact that the two of them together strategized to be even more fanatical about saving their keyboards from wear and tear is what is indicative of alignment.

Not the hydra and meta-shield business

per se

.

Gut is scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

And guess who's lurking again??????????????????

Yeah, that's right.

[DrippingGoofball]

And guess who's lurking again??????????????????

Yeah, that's right.

Oh wait, no.

My mistake.

never mind..............

[DrippingGoofball]

If I can be bothered I can actually put together a case ... Fate's rampant douchebaggery has really killed my enthusiasm for this game.

I got your back.

Do eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

[DrippingGoofball]

Gur has entered claim stall territory.

[DrippingGoofball]

Please.

Please.

We're invicting Illuuminati

PLease

Oh krap

You know how much that would please me

Only thing is, I have no faith that he will actually be the invictus target.

[DrippingGoofball]

Don't invictus me, lynch me

Sounds like an alternate wincon.

[DrippingGoofball]

I promise you I will do whatever I can, all we need to die is get the Gamma wagon onto him. I can do it.

I'd read the manifesto.

[DrippingGoofball]

Only Magna, Illum, and Duplic are left in the off Spyspy wagon list. We can burn TWO of them guyz.

Can you do the color thing please? I have to plaster some walls.

[DrippingGoofball]

Illuminati can I get something interesting from you? I collect odd reads and reasonings for my secret jar in the fridge.

Gammagooey I love you

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm at work now...but for you...I'll do the relevant bit.

SpyreX (LYNCH) ~ Nautilius, Zachrulez, Tarhalindur, VitaminR, Ban, danceHello, Gut, DrippingGoofball, Fate, silavor
Gut (L-7) ~

SpyreX

,

Kublai Khan

, Duplicity
Kublai Khan (L-8) ~

Quilford

,

Hinduragi

Fate (L-8) ~

Benmage

, MagnaofIllusion
Tarhalindur (L-9) ~

Baby Spice

Not Voting: The Illuminati

Olive is unofficial town par usual.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

You're looking OFF wagon! I see!

[DrippingGoofball]

Willing to hammer MoI.

[DrippingGoofball]

How can I get that Illuminati head roll?

[DrippingGoofball]

Dear Ban, and Gammagooey,

It ain't happening.

Vote for the action!

Yours eternally,

DGB

[DrippingGoofball]

Unvote, Vote: Zachrulez

There's a pretty decent chance I'll change this to a MoI vote later in the day after Zach gets back and I talk to him for a bit.

Zach is town, why don't you invite him for a cup of tea and a nice chat, instead of voting him?

[DrippingGoofball]

Thanks.

FTR, GG didn't hammer.

No one hammer.

I need to run the scumputer NOW.

I'm going to a show.

Will do tomorrow morning.

[DrippingGoofball]

You asking for no one to hammer while you were content ot have Gut at L-1 for so long is a lil o_O though...

I'm not as sure of MoI-town as I was, but I'm 10x more sure that Gut is scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

Hey DGB where's that updated Scum-puter you talked about?

Yeah I know I have a workman in the house installing a new kitchen.

Can you do me a favor?

Please list all the wagons at their peaks. I'll do the rest.

[DrippingGoofball]

And Fate is just pride-wounded, dumb Town.

That is a gigantic towntell.

[DrippingGoofball]

I love Nautilius, but Nautilius needs death.

I'm sorry you got a scum PM, Elli.

[DrippingGoofball]

Deal! I will be around.

[DrippingGoofball]

The main frame is being fired up!

[DrippingGoofball]

Day 1

Assumption: 4 scums out of 19 players
21% scum by chance
I'm not counting the RVS Fate wagon, it's too dependent on when people showed up in the game.

21% of 10 players to start, so 2 scums.

Spyrex

DERP Wagon (10) - Nautilius, Zachrulez, Tarhalindur, VitaminR, Ban,

danceHello

, Gut,

DrippingGoofball

, Fate,

silavor

2 scums out of these players (28 points)

Nautilius
Zachrulez
Tarhalindur
VitaminR
Ban
Gut
Fate

Day 2

Day 2 would have 16 players, 4 scumz.
40% scum per wagon by chance.
There is a lot of overlap in the MoI wagons, I don't want to double-count, so I'll count every one ONCE. Same with silavor wagon. Everyone gets counted once.

MoI Day 2 Wagon Part 1 & 2 merged (9) - Fate, Tarhalindur, VitaminR,

silavor

,

danceHello

, Gut, Gammagooey, Zachrulez. Nautilius

This wagon is 36% scum with 9 original players, so 3.2 scums on this wagon. (45 points)

Fate
Tarhalindur
VitaminR
Gut
Gammagooey
Zachrulez
Nautilius

silavor

Day 2 Wagon Part 2 (9) - Duplicity, Benmage, MagnaofIllusion, Ban,

Baby Spice

, The Illuminati, Zachrulez, Gammagooey, Fate

This wagon is 36% scum with 9 original players, so 3.2 scums on this wagon. (40 points)

Duplicity
Benmage
MagnaofIllusion
Ban
The Illuminati
Zachrulez
Gammagooey
Fate

Day 3

This is very unnusual, we're divided halfway so it's not an informative day without a flip. I'm leaving it for reference.

Guts wagon Day 3 (6) - Zachrulez, The Illuminati, Benmage, MagnaofIllusion,

DrippingGoofball

, Duplicity

MoI wagon Day 3 (6) - Fate, VitaminR, Tarhalindur, Nautilius, Gut, Gammagooey

113 Zachrulez
113 Fate

85 Gammagooey

73 Nautilius
73 Tarhalindur
73 VitaminR
73 Gut

68 Ban

40 Duplicity
40 Benmage
40 MagnaofIllusion
40 The Illuminati

[DrippingGoofball]

OPERATOR COMMENTS

Judging by these results,

Gut

is a better lynch than

MoI

. That's also true if you take a minute to iso

Gut

and meta against

chamber

alone, or

CES

alone. It's been a COMPLETELY OPAQUE, ZERO EFFORT game for the accursed hydra.

Zachrulez

... looks like the scum won't bus him.

Gammagooey

... scum having a ball.

You have to wonder why these two players haven't gotten wagoned and

MoI

comes to an inch of his life every day.

Fate

is a heavy wagoner, so his high number might be biased by his meta.

Nautilius

iz scumorz come on.

Tarhalindur

- lots of role speculation at first, I was convinced he was prepping the room for a FLYING PUMPKIN SHOOTING LAZERZ claim. Bodyguard. Bodyguard??? That's IT??????

VitaminR

- Could be the scumteam member trying to look consistent. Is very consistent.

Gut

- So scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

SCUM IS:

Zachrulez
Gammagooey
Nautilius
with a dash of {Tarhalindur, VitaminR, Gut}

NONE OF THESE PLAYERS HAVE BEEN WAGONED. OR INVICTUS'ed.

COINCIDENCE???

I THINK NOT

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Zachrulez

The scumputer thanks you for your patience.

[DrippingGoofball]

Fate, I have terrible news.

[DrippingGoofball]

First glance and the computer still looks retarded.

WTF

This is my best scumputer EVA

I'm actually CALCULATING the scum proportions instead of pulling the numbers out of my recycling box.

[DrippingGoofball]

If its "I'm not voting MoI ever" then save it.

Now you're not getting Illuminati invictus EITHER.

We had a fucking deal

IS THAT HOW IT'S GOING TO BE

I'm on the phone with my lawyers

[DrippingGoofball]

Fate

You have to forsake Satan

[DrippingGoofball]

...but isn't that after you account for a few town reads in the higher computations?

I did.

But there's been a lot of monkeying around in this game, like lulzwagonhammerz, claimless hammers, Tar breadcrumbing Flying Pumpkin, opaque hydras, daily MoI to L-1 but scum won't lulzhammer no more.

[DrippingGoofball]

Blah blah blah
Please don't lynch before I do that.

Are you going to actually be objective or just support whatever foregone conclusion? Because your little intro suggests that you're preparing us for that. It's like lubricant.

[DrippingGoofball]

Since this Gut wagon isn't going away and Gut has outed himself as mainly CES, I went back and reread Gut.

Yeah, Gut's town...

No. Seriously. You can't be thinking that. No.

[DrippingGoofball]

Shush Benmage

I'm browbeating Tar into being objective.

[DrippingGoofball]

Gut, thank you the the red herrings. I shall pickle them.

That's not the problem.

As CES, you're pretty minimalistic and opaque. But now you've created a hydra. Ans instead of talking more, you're talking less. You're even more minimalistic and opaque. Instead of being at your usual level of minimalism and opacity.

I believe I can read Fate.

You are scum desperately trying to discredit my analysis.

[DrippingGoofball]

Fate,

Who are MoI's buddies? We're lynching his buddies today. We're keeping him alive to that he leads us to them.

[DrippingGoofball]

Tar, I'm sorry, I know it must have taken you hours for that table, but it's rubbish.

You're lacking a starting assumption BEFORE you run your program.

You have to base your algorithm on a theory, prior to looking at the data.

You're looking at the data and making stuff up.

That's not science.

[DrippingGoofball]

I think I might have fallen in love with Illuminati.

[DrippingGoofball]

There could be all the scum, or no scum on the lulzwagon. Aynthing in between.

I put an average number of scum in my algorithm.

[DrippingGoofball]

That's assuming perfect scum knowledge and scum being online to apply this perfect knowledge. It was too fast, some scums were sleeping in bed, while others were chuckling and not posting... and others were already safe on the early wagon.

I could buy the "no scum on caboose" theory, and what have you there? Myself (borderline position), Fate, and silavor-town.

[DrippingGoofball]

I still want Gut to hang. (Notice the correlation to a realistic chance of lynch to him suddenly caring.)

BINGO

[DrippingGoofball]

Is the correct answer: MoI is going to be wagon'ed within a inch of his life, again?

[DrippingGoofball]

also aren't you still voting for Zach.

Hey if I don't try, I'll never happen.

[DrippingGoofball]

Unvote, Vote: Tarhalindur

You're bus'ing yourself aren't you.

VOTE: Tarhalindur

[DrippingGoofball]

nah

VOTE: Zach

[DrippingGoofball]

Nautilius is a veritable hostage negotiator right now.

[DrippingGoofball]

I SEE YOU SCUM ON THE ZACH WAGON

OH DID I SEE THATTTT

That would be Zach himself.

[DrippingGoofball]

Shall I vote my town read.

[DrippingGoofball]

[DrippingGoofball]

We need a plan.

Today we lynch Zachrules for the scumputer's greatest glory.

Tonight we invictus... how about who we think is scum and we keep it to ourselves.

[DrippingGoofball]

Oh, and I shant be claiming anything at all, ever.

Oh this I don't get. Why did you vote me solely for not claiming when I was at L-2?

BINGO

SCUM HIT

50,000 points

FREE GAME
FREE GAME
FREE GAME
FREE GAME
FREE GAME
FREE GAME
FREE GAME

[DrippingGoofball]

Remember Medieval? Where you harebrained off that confirmed scum couldn't be scum and that my correct lategame reads were wrong? Are you SERIOUSLY going to do that again?

I forget... what did I do in Medieval? Off the bat I remember a few dark tunnels... but we won.

[DrippingGoofball]

*cracks own skull open with hammer*

[DrippingGoofball]

Willing to sell vote to highest bidder.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Gut

[DrippingGoofball]

VitaminR continues to pretty much sit on the sideline and do nothing other than mildly suggest that he MIGHT support a wagon on candidates that aren't viable in the least.

That's why, VitaminR.

I can see why Ban is after you. He may be on to something.

Magna, I'm up for a Gut lynch.

Get back in there. Tar isn't beingn lynched.

[DrippingGoofball]

Could it be possible we have some unusually small amount of scum for a large game?

We have one SK. That's it.

That's what happens when there is no scum to bus.

[DrippingGoofball]

Fate, Magna + Zach makes sense. Don't act silly.

DGb, you're just making the same mistakes as in Oldy. You can do better.

P.S. Tar is way too full of himself.

What mistake am I making. Particulars, please.

[DrippingGoofball]

I've been skipping Duplicity's posts. I get impatient when I read them.

Is there a tl;dr version of the case somewhere?

[DrippingGoofball]

Duplicity is claiming scum.

Boy is he mad we couldt just "mislynch" Gut or Zach

What did he say exactly? No way I'm going to read that wall.

[DrippingGoofball]

In favor of mass claim.

I'm vanilla, so I can go first anytime.

[DrippingGoofball]

I like to read the dead scum's posts to find connections... Reading Duplicity is going to be a stupefying snoozefest, wish me luck. I'm sacrificing myself for the good of the collective.

[DrippingGoofball]

I like to read the dead scum's posts to find connections... Reading Duplicity is going to be a stupefying snoozefest, wish me luck. I'm sacrificing myself for the good of the collective.

VOTE: DGB

You are such a MERCIFUL GOD

Kill me

before

I feel compelled to drudge through his insipid and tedious body of work for evidence of soft bus'ing.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB needs to elaborate on "vanilla".

As in, invictus only.

[DrippingGoofball]

DUPLICITY

aka "The Time To For Me To Try

Red Bull

Is Now"

Vote: Silavour
Invictious Vote: Gut

I'm going to take the Gut invictus as potential soft bus'ing. Because it's easy for scum to thread-invictus their buddies, and to real-invictus a townie.

Not understanding the BabySpice votes, sure she's a weaker player however she'll be relatively easy to read correctly later in the game removing any potential gain from invictusing her early, furthermore the placement and timing of her Tarh vote and avoidance of the Spyrex wagon reads as slightly town.

I'll never play with this player again. Seriously. This is torture. ARGH and the post after, we're being lectured on the ills of policy lynching. Anyhoo. He's dead now. Continuing. The things I put myself through for you guys.

...I fail to see how you can attempt to rectify her death based on low post count

Jesus. Rectify death? Based on post counts? OK, I have to stop goofing off. Back to work.

DGB was a town read D1, but her posts recently have been bad and mostly dismissive of us.

Hehehehe. Complain all you want from the dead QT, I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!!

Town, most to least:
1. Quil
2. Tar
3. Fate
4. Vitamin
5. Benmage
6. Dance (According to Regfan until I can get a solid read myself, for now you're the bottom of my list)

Arrrrrrrrrrrright. At last. Some meat from Professor Obfuscatski. There be one scum hidden in this list.

Quilford,

Tarhalindur

, Fate, and Benmage. I know Tar can't be scum, this was not a good time to bus, Tar had plenty of opportunity to lynch alternatives without losing town cred.

Probable Scum, most to least:

1. Silavor
2. Zach
3. Gut
4. DGB (Very subject to change depending on her answer to my question)
5. Ban (Leaning scum, needs more content)

There be one scum here, too, yo.
Zach, Gut, Ban

Needs to post more content, biggest need to least:
1. Ban
2. BabySpice
3. Illuminati/DH
4. MoI
5. Naut

Confuplicity mentions Ban

twice

. One in the prob scum, and then in moar contentz plz. Then later he writes:

"Oh, Ban posted. Give me a second."

Then he follows up with an attack on Ban, thread-invictus'ing a townie. And more attack on Ban. That's not buddy-talk. Ban is town.

And on second thought, my invictus is better used on someone who needs to be pressured more. Spice has enough pressure as it is.

Uninvictus, Invictus: Zachrulez

Invictus pressure, eh? This reeks of more soft-bus'ing.

THIS POST is actually quite interesting (not that interesting, actually, it's all relative), because he's challenging Tar, asking him why he wants to... I dunno... continue being suspicious of Quilford when Khan said he'd be his invictus target. Hey you know what, that makes sense. If indeed Khan's invictus'ed Quilford... then Quilford has to be town. Hehe.

Fixed URL tag in this vicinity. ~Vi

The Illumni's lack of activity is a complete null-tell considering DH's history as town, I've seen him lurk throughout multiple games however I want him to explain when and which parts of the thread he has read through.

^^^ This is a heavily meta-supported NULL tell. That's right. Null tell, because he's seen him do it as town... hey wait... did he even consider looking at DH's as scum? Noooooooooooooooo.

SOFT BUS:

Gut
Zach

SOFT DEFENSE:

Illuminati

ONE OF:

Tar

Quilford/Gamma

Fate
Benmage

ONE OF:

Gut
Zach

ONE OF:

Illuminati/DH > soft defense
Naut

ONE SCUM IN TOWNIE LIST: Fate, Gamma, Ban, Benmage, VitamR, MoI
ONE SCUM IN NULL LIST: DGB, Nautiullus, Zach
ONE SCUM IN SCUM LIST: Tarh, The Illu, Gut.

ONE SCUM IN SCUM LIST:[gut, zach, nautilus, illuminati, vit]

Town, do not lynch no matter what

1.MoI

2. Gamma

3. Tar

4. Fate

5. Benmage

Town, 1 scum hiding in here

1. DGB
2. Ban

3. Zach,

weakest read

Scum, lynch on sight

1. VitR

2. Naut
3. Gut
4. Illuminati

YAY!!! Cross-checking time.

SOFT BUS:

Gut
Zach

SOFT DEFENSE:

Illuminati

ONE OF:

Tar

Quilford/Gamma

Fate
Benmage

ONE OF:

Gut >

CROSSCHECKS

Zach

ONE OF:

Illuminati/DH >

CROSSCHECKS

Naut

AND GUESS WHAT? He doesn't ask

Gut

to post moar contentz. Later, he adds:

"Gut's improved a little since my last post but not by much"

REallY? REALLY??? Based on what? That sounds like a scum trying to back out of a distancing position. Beeeep! Beeeeep! Beeeeep! Bus backing up! But then........ when the tide turns... he floors it and LATE-BUS'ES GUT to L-1. But then he unvotes after CES says he's the main hydra head??? He actually ends up voting Gut

twice

. Now, I know snotty scumzors like Duplicity are going to have the "consistency" broomstick up their keisters, but... this is hugely inconsistent. I don't think he'd risk it unless he saw town cred at the end of the roller coaster with a successful bus.

For now though I'm so sure this is a scumflip I don't think I'll have to.

HE VOTES ZACH. Maybe he does know this is a scum flip, and wants the Mean Ole Scum Hunta Town Cred.

Speaking of which, I'm too lazy to quotewall this, but there are at least a trio of instances where it's pretty clear that he knows Fate is town. Like you don't tell your buddy Fate to stop tunneling, and call him "town as f-uck" along with Quilford/Gamma.

CONCLUSION:

Gut, Zach, Illuminati, Benmage

[DrippingGoofball]

Day 1

Assumption: 4 scums out of 19 players
21% scum by chance
I'm not counting the RVS Fate wagon, it's too dependent on when people showed up in the game.

21% of 10 players to start, so 2 scums.

Spyrex

DERP Wagon (10) - Nautilius, Zachrulez, Tarhalindur,

VitaminR

, Ban,

danceHello

, Gut,

DrippingGoofball

, Fate,

silavor

2 scums out of these players (33 points)

Nautilius
Zachrulez
Tarhalindur

VitaminR

Ban
Gut
Fate

Day 2

Day 2 would have 16 players, 4 scumz.
40% scum per wagon by chance.
There is a lot of overlap in the MoI wagons, I don't want to double-count, so I'll count every one ONCE. Same with silavor wagon. Everyone gets counted once.

MoI Day 2 Wagon Part 1 & 2 merged (9) - Fate, Tarhalindur,

VitaminR

,

silavor

,

danceHello

, Gut, Gammagooey, Zachrulez. Nautilius

This wagon is 36% scum with 9 original players, so 3.2 scums on this wagon. (53 points)

Fate
Tarhalindur

VitaminR

Gut
Gammagooey
Zachrulez
Nautilius

silavor

Day 2 Wagon Part 2 (9) -

Duplicity

, Benmage,

MagnaofIllusion

, Ban,

Baby Spice

, The Illuminati, Zachrulez, Gammagooey, Fate

This wagon is 36% scum with 9 original players, so 3.2 scums on this wagon, with Dup reveal, 2.2. (31 points)

Duplicity

Benmage
MagnaofIllusion
Ban
The Illuminati
Zachrulez
Gammagooey
Fate

Day 3

This is very unnusual, we're divided halfway so it's not an informative day without a flip. I'm leaving it for reference.

Gut wagon Day 3 (6) - Zachrulez, The Illuminati, Benmage,

MagnaofIllusion

,

DrippingGoofball

,

Duplicity

One of Zach, Illuminati, Benmage

MoI wagon Day 3 (6) - Fate,

VitaminR

, Tarhalindur, Nautilius, Gut, Gammagooey

THIS is the better wagon to analyse. I have strong town reads on Fate, Tar, and Gamma. Leaving two scumbagoos, Naut & Gut. More likely Gut on account of the above analysis.

[DrippingGoofball]

TOTALS ON THE WAY

[DrippingGoofball]

Wait
why DON'T we come out as scum too from DGB's thing.
>.>

Because we I superposed all of Duplicity's lists, your direct competitor looked worse. Why, did I make a mistake? Illumimati is town and you're scum?

[DrippingGoofball]

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117 Zachrulez

106 Nautilius >>> POE
106 Tarhalindur >>> hard town read

106 Gut

104 Gammagooey >>> hard town read
64 Ban >>>

Never my Korlash

31 Benmage >>> town read

31 The Illuminati

>>> cheated the scumputer with his lurktrojan.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Zachrulez

[DrippingGoofball]

oh
whoops
forgot
NVM, DGB CHOOSE SOMEONE ELSE
LIKE ILLUM

K, Illum. Go claim time!

[DrippingGoofball]

Hey Gammagooey

I already posted what you wrote in your #1329 above. So. That means we agree on Illuminati.

Illuminati is scum with Gut & Zach.

Who dies first is the question.

[DrippingGoofball]

tar claim last.

Tar claimed already.

VOTE: Illuminati

[DrippingGoofball]

Are you even reading the game anymore DGB? We're talking about when I claim targets (which I *haven't* claimed yet).

Oh, yeah, targets.

[DrippingGoofball]

Whatttttttttttttttttttttttt

Illuminati is scum, what the heck with the wagon melt?

His invictus targets were

Supreme Town Read dancehello

and

Fate

????????????????? And we're UNVOTING?

[DrippingGoofball]

Illuminati NK'd his invictus target dancehello, and switched target to Fate.

There is no way Illuminati isn't scum. Amrun unwittingly spilled the beans.

[DrippingGoofball]

Hi busy with the kitchen renovation (finished AT LAST), what's going on?

[DrippingGoofball]

YES

[DrippingGoofball]

How do I proceed?

[DrippingGoofball]

read over stuff ben didz

Check

read over stuff ban didz

If I were a cop and had a guilty on Korlash, I'd lie and say he's innocent. Step skipped.

comment on stuff dey didz and say which you think is more likely scum.

Benmage by PoE

Don't vote quite yet though.

Why? I'm clearly ready.

[DrippingGoofball]

I don't need to read Duplicity, Korlash is always town in my heart.

Tar is scum. He started the game with grand hints that he was the Flying Pumpkin Filled With Special Snowflakes but the special snowflakes all melted into a stupid bodyguard role. And yet he's still alive. The scum never thought of killing him with his magnificent role.

Can we lynch Benmage now?

[DrippingGoofball]

Yes.

4 U

VOTE: Benmage

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB I have a real hard time seeing Tar as scum after his claim outburst ridiculousness.

Pffffffffffffffffft

None of Tar's outrages felt real to me, and I should know, I'm the queen of game rage.

[DrippingGoofball]

Fate is the king of game rage.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm not scum. Scum is between Fate, Nautilius and Tar. I think Tar is playing us like violins.

[DrippingGoofball]

Korlash! We made it! We made it!

/pre-in next game Korlash pre-ins.