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Post Post #1300 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:13 am

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Lemme think about whether information from popcorn ordering outweighs the potential benefits of Tartown-driven massclaim (I *am* a massclaim specialist, you know).

Of course, if other players don't trust my order then it's a moot point.

DGB needs to elaborate on "vanilla". Then, if we popcorn, she needs to choose next target. (May I recommend Benmage?)

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Fate wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:I like to read the dead scum's posts to find connections... Reading Duplicity is going to be a stupefying snoozefest, wish me luck. I'm sacrificing myself for the good of the collective.


VOTE: DGB


You are such a MERCIFUL GOD

Kill me
before
I feel compelled to drudge through his insipid and tedious body of work for evidence of soft bus'ing.


Nah, how about I point out that Duplicity posted a scumlist and let you go to town? I *know* how much you love digging for scum in scumlists...

Duplicity D2, flipped alignments added wrote:
Town, most to least:
1. Quil
2. Tar
3. Fate
4. Vitamin

5. Benmage
6. Dance (According to Regfan until I can get a solid read myself, for now you're the bottom of my list)


Probable Scum, most to least:
1. Silavor
2. Zach
3. Gut
4. DGB (Very subject to change depending on her answer to my question)
5. Ban (Leaning scum, needs more content)

Needs to post more content, biggest need to least:
1. Ban
2. BabySpice

3. Illuminati/DH
4. MoI[/color
5. Naut


Also note that Duplicity was white knighting out the ASS on BabySpice early D2.

More to come.

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Thought of the day: Could Vi have borrowed one of my recent ideas (modified Jungle Republic) for this setup? I know that Vi's on one of the design/review teams where I was considering that idea, there are two possible Mafia flavors (Bugatti, Lamborghini) in the first post, and the observed kills make a LOT more sense if they come from an SK or unrevealed faction...
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Post Post #1301 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:25 am

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Tarhalindur wrote:DGB needs to elaborate on "vanilla".

As in, invictus only.
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Post Post #1302 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:56 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
Tarhalindur wrote:DGB needs to elaborate on "vanilla".

As in, invictus only.


Just checking.
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Post Post #1303 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:44 am

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Fate wrote:I don't need anymore town points Gamma, and why the hell are we discussing reads extensively before the MC is done?


Well we can do that first but I don't think it's going to be super amazingly helpful. Hopefully I'm wrong.
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Post Post #1304 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:36 am

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And if we're gonna popcorn let's get on with it.
DGB chooooooose.
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Post Post #1305 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:29 pm

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Sorry I've been awol here. I was hoping to get to look into Dup today but my connection has been going in and out. With Vitamin out of the picture I'm going to need a new sparing partner so I'm sure looking into Dup's finances will net me a dance partner.

As for massclaiming, I'm fine with it. I usually do good sifting through claims so I wouldn't say no to that. As much as I like Tar's list I'd have to say popcorn too though. A fixed massclaim never sits right with me no matter how 'good' it looks.
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Post Post #1306 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:32 pm

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Zachrulez wrote:
Vote: Gut


I can't accept that hypo town gut would still be alive in context of what happened yesterday.

Invictus: Benmage and Illuminati


Already claimed, but support massclaim.


Gut??
Scum???
Wut is this.
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Post Post #1307 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:34 pm

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Off the top of my head I'm thinking Zach and Illum are scum.
Maybe DGB but I think she attacked Duplic pretty early so bleh.
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Post Post #1308 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:21 pm

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Vote Count XIX:
Socialist Mafia gets off to a great start
:right: Benmage (L-5) ~ Tarhalindur
:right: The Illuminati (L-5) ~ Gammagooey
:right: DrippingGoofball (L-5) ~ Fate
:right: Zachrulez (L-5) ~ Gut
:right: Gut (L-5) ~ Zachrulez
Nautilius (L-6) ~
Fate

(Minimum L-6)


Not Voting:
Ban, Benmage, DrippingGoofball,
Fate, Gut,
Nautilius,
Gammagooey, Tarhalindur,
The Illuminati,
Zachrulez


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Post Post #1309 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:05 pm

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DGB won't even pretend to take the time to read her scumbuddies' posts, why the HELL should we leave her alive?
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Post Post #1310 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:12 pm

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Fate wrote:DGB won't even pretend to take the time to read her scumbuddies' posts, why the HELL should we leave her alive?

Because we're going to lynch a REAL scumz instead. We can invictus her or something.
Also I'm pretty disapointed with everyone that's posted thus far today except Tar. I'd be even more disapointed with Illuminati if they weren't scum- DemonHybrid is still posting in several other games with pretty decent posts yesterday And today but not a peep here.
Sera is legit V/LA though.
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Post Post #1311 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:05 am

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DUPLICITY


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Red Bull
Is Now"


Dupliciscum wrote:Vote: Silavour
Invictious Vote: Gut

I'm going to take the Gut invictus as potential soft bus'ing. Because it's easy for scum to thread-invictus their buddies, and to real-invictus a townie.

Dupliciscum wrote:Not understanding the BabySpice votes, sure she's a weaker player however she'll be relatively easy to read correctly later in the game removing any potential gain from invictusing her early, furthermore the placement and timing of her Tarh vote and avoidance of the Spyrex wagon reads as slightly town.

I'll never play with this player again. Seriously. This is torture. ARGH and the post after, we're being lectured on the ills of policy lynching. Anyhoo. He's dead now. Continuing. The things I put myself through for you guys.

Dupliciscum wrote:...I fail to see how you can attempt to rectify her death based on low post count

Jesus. Rectify death? Based on post counts? OK, I have to stop goofing off. Back to work.

Dupliciscum wrote:DGB was a town read D1, but her posts recently have been bad and mostly dismissive of us.

Hehehehe. Complain all you want from the dead QT, I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!!

Dupliciscum wrote:Town, most to least:
1. Quil
2. Tar
3. Fate
4. Vitamin
5. Benmage
6. Dance (According to Regfan until I can get a solid read myself, for now you're the bottom of my list)

Arrrrrrrrrrrright. At last. Some meat from Professor Obfuscatski. There be one scum hidden in this list.

Quilford,
Tarhalindur
, Fate, and Benmage. I know Tar can't be scum, this was not a good time to bus, Tar had plenty of opportunity to lynch alternatives without losing town cred.

Dupliciscum wrote:
Probable Scum, most to least:

1. Silavor
2. Zach
3. Gut
4. DGB (Very subject to change depending on her answer to my question)
5. Ban (Leaning scum, needs more content)


There be one scum here, too, yo.
Zach, Gut, Ban

Dupliciscum wrote:Needs to post more content, biggest need to least:
1. Ban
2. BabySpice
3. Illuminati/DH
4. MoI
5. Naut


Confuplicity mentions Ban
twice
. One in the prob scum, and then in moar contentz plz. Then later he writes:
"Oh, Ban posted. Give me a second."
Then he follows up with an attack on Ban, thread-invictus'ing a townie. And more attack on Ban. That's not buddy-talk. Ban is town.

Dupliciscum wrote:And on second thought, my invictus is better used on someone who needs to be pressured more. Spice has enough pressure as it is.

Uninvictus, Invictus: Zachrulez

Invictus pressure, eh? This reeks of more soft-bus'ing.

THIS POST is actually quite interesting (not that interesting, actually, it's all relative), because he's challenging Tar, asking him why he wants to... I dunno... continue being suspicious of Quilford when Khan said he'd be his invictus target. Hey you know what, that makes sense. If indeed Khan's invictus'ed Quilford... then Quilford has to be town. Hehe.

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Dupliciscum wrote:The Illumni's lack of activity is a complete null-tell considering DH's history as town, I've seen him lurk throughout multiple games however I want him to explain when and which parts of the thread he has read through.

^^^ This is a heavily meta-supported NULL tell. That's right. Null tell, because he's seen him do it as town... hey wait... did he even consider looking at DH's as scum? Noooooooooooooooo.

SOFT BUS:

Gut
Zach

SOFT DEFENSE:

Illuminati

ONE OF:

Tar

Quilford/Gamma

Fate
Benmage

ONE OF:

Gut
Zach

ONE OF:

Illuminati/DH > soft defense
Naut

Dupliciscum wrote:ONE SCUM IN TOWNIE LIST: Fate, Gamma, Ban, Benmage, VitamR, MoI
ONE SCUM IN NULL LIST: DGB, Nautiullus, Zach
ONE SCUM IN SCUM LIST: Tarh, The Illu, Gut.


Dupliciscum wrote:ONE SCUM IN SCUM LIST:[gut, zach, nautilus, illuminati, vit]


Dupliciscum wrote:Town, do not lynch no matter what
1.MoI

2. Gamma

3. Tar

4. Fate

5. Benmage

Town, 1 scum hiding in here
1. DGB
2. Ban

3. Zach,
weakest read


Scum, lynch on sight
1. VitR

2. Naut
3. Gut
4. Illuminati


YAY!!! Cross-checking time.

SOFT BUS:

Gut
Zach

SOFT DEFENSE:

Illuminati

ONE OF:

Tar

Quilford/Gamma

Fate
Benmage

ONE OF:

Gut >
CROSSCHECKS

Zach

ONE OF:

Illuminati/DH >
CROSSCHECKS

Naut

AND GUESS WHAT? He doesn't ask
Gut
to post moar contentz. Later, he adds:
"Gut's improved a little since my last post but not by much"
REallY? REALLY??? Based on what? That sounds like a scum trying to back out of a distancing position. Beeeep! Beeeeep! Beeeeep! Bus backing up! But then........ when the tide turns... he floors it and LATE-BUS'ES GUT to L-1. But then he unvotes after CES says he's the main hydra head??? He actually ends up voting Gut
twice
. Now, I know snotty scumzors like Duplicity are going to have the "consistency" broomstick up their keisters, but... this is hugely inconsistent. I don't think he'd risk it unless he saw town cred at the end of the roller coaster with a successful bus.

Dupliciscum wrote:For now though I'm so sure this is a scumflip I don't think I'll have to.
HE VOTES ZACH. Maybe he does know this is a scum flip, and wants the Mean Ole Scum Hunta Town Cred.

Speaking of which, I'm too lazy to quotewall this, but there are at least a trio of instances where it's pretty clear that he knows Fate is town. Like you don't tell your buddy Fate to stop tunneling, and call him "town as f-uck" along with Quilford/Gamma.

CONCLUSION:

Gut, Zach, Illuminati, Benmage
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Post Post #1312 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:11 am

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VOTE: illuminati
Fate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
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Post Post #1313 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:16 am

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Wait
why DON'T we come out as scum too from DGB's thing.
>.>
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Post Post #1314 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:18 am

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Day 1

Assumption: 4 scums out of 19 players
21% scum by chance
I'm not counting the RVS Fate wagon, it's too dependent on when people showed up in the game.

21% of 10 players to start, so 2 scums.
Spyrex
DERP Wagon (10) - Nautilius, Zachrulez, Tarhalindur,
VitaminR
, Ban,
danceHello
, Gut,
DrippingGoofball
, Fate,
silavor


2 scums out of these players (33 points)

Nautilius
Zachrulez
Tarhalindur
VitaminR

Ban
Gut
Fate

Day 2

Day 2 would have 16 players, 4 scumz.
40% scum per wagon by chance.
There is a lot of overlap in the MoI wagons, I don't want to double-count, so I'll count every one ONCE. Same with silavor wagon. Everyone gets counted once.

MoI Day 2 Wagon Part 1 & 2 merged (9) - Fate, Tarhalindur,
VitaminR
,
silavor
,
danceHello
, Gut, Gammagooey, Zachrulez. Nautilius


This wagon is 36% scum with 9 original players, so 3.2 scums on this wagon. (53 points)

Fate
Tarhalindur
VitaminR

Gut
Gammagooey
Zachrulez
Nautilius

silavor
Day 2 Wagon Part 2 (9) -
Duplicity
, Benmage,
MagnaofIllusion
, Ban,
Baby Spice
, The Illuminati, Zachrulez, Gammagooey, Fate


This wagon is 36% scum with 9 original players, so 3.2 scums on this wagon, with Dup reveal, 2.2. (31 points)

Duplicity

Benmage
MagnaofIllusion
Ban
The Illuminati
Zachrulez
Gammagooey
Fate

Day 3

This is very unnusual, we're divided halfway so it's not an informative day without a flip. I'm leaving it for reference.

Gut wagon Day 3 (6) - Zachrulez, The Illuminati, Benmage,
MagnaofIllusion
,
DrippingGoofball
,
Duplicity


One of Zach, Illuminati, Benmage

MoI wagon Day 3 (6) - Fate,
VitaminR
, Tarhalindur, Nautilius, Gut, Gammagooey


THIS is the better wagon to analyse. I have strong town reads on Fate, Tar, and Gamma. Leaving two scumbagoos, Naut & Gut. More likely Gut on account of the above analysis.
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Post Post #1315 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:19 am

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TOTALS ON THE WAY
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Post Post #1316 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:20 am

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Nautilius wrote:Wait
why DON'T we come out as scum too from DGB's thing.
>.>


Because we I superposed all of Duplicity's lists, your direct competitor looked worse. Why, did I make a mistake? Illumimati is town and you're scum?
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Post Post #1317 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:21 am

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I hope I'm #1 in points this time
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Post Post #1318 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:34 am

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117 Zachrulez

106 Nautilius >>> POE
106 Tarhalindur >>> hard town read
106 Gut

104 Gammagooey >>> hard town read
64 Ban >>>
Never my Korlash

31 Benmage >>> town read
31 The Illuminati
>>> cheated the scumputer with his lurktrojan.
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Post Post #1319 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:35 am

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VOTE: Zachrulez
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Post Post #1320 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:43 am

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~Anytime, Anywhere~
Vote: Zach


(pssst, DGB, tell him to go next in the MC while we're at it)
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Post Post #1321 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:45 am

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Did you fall asleep or something? I've already claimed.
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Post Post #1322 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:46 am

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oh
whoops
forgot
NVM, DGB CHOOSE SOMEONE ELSE
LIKE ILLUM
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Post Post #1323 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:52 am

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Nautilius wrote:
Zachrulez wrote:
Vote: Gut


I can't accept that hypo town gut would still be alive in context of what happened yesterday.

Invictus: Benmage and Illuminati


Already claimed, but support massclaim.


Gut??
Scum???
Wut is this.


And yet you quoted this post just yesterday. Did you even read it?

Gut should go next.
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Post Post #1324 (ISO) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:55 am

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Would be fine with Benmage going next as well.

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