Kingdom Hearts Mafia - Game Over!

[Kise]

No PM sent... I'm returning home in a few minutes. Hopefully I have my role tomorrow to confirm, Kimbo Slicey.

[Kise]

Bah... must mean I'm VT.

[Kise]

/confirm

[Kise]

LyLo doesn't have to come if we nail scum.

Not reading because I don't want spoilers.

King Mickey dies and Disney is bought out by Bill Gates.

Good grief now I'm even more confused about my character after reading all the stuff posted about the theme.

Bullsh!t.

Vote: Shotty

my character is so basic.... oops.

Bullsh!t.

Unvote; Vote: Deathnote

My character is so beyond awesome that he can't die

or

be lynched.

Cool.

Shotty, Cobalt & ace emit bad juju to me. I will offer an opinion of Dis after he replies to the rest.

[Kise]

Unvote

[Kise]

I missed RVS. (It's over, right?)

Who's scum, saber?

[Kise]

Vote: Papa Zito

I see what you did...

[Kise]

Kise 275: Lylo should be an issue right now. It's only day 1.

Should, really?

Can someone reevaulate the Discode case for me?

I have a feeling the town is over agravating the issue based on the mod scene for some reason but I should reread to confirm this.

Only town? Why aren't scum also attacking Discode?

[Kise]

Who does em?

[Kise]

Later.

[Kise]

No, no, and no.

Wait! Yes, no, and no.

I think...

[Kise]

What was the question, DTM? I haven't said anything in relation to Dis, so I don't think I should be asked.

Wrong. Discussing the identity of the voice strikes me as very antitown for this reason: as long as the scum don't know who the voice is, they can't kill him or her.

Which is why I voted for big Papa. He just loves it when I call him big Papa.

IT'S COBALT NOT COLBAT, COLBAT ISN'T EVEN A WORD, WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU

Isn't that a pokemon?

So, yeah,

Help: The Voice

. I think his nobody and heartless need to combine.

[Kise]

BTW, you guys just made me read 6 pages of the same crap over different toilets. My eyes feel like sand. The voice said to cut out the Riku speculation. Stop clogging the thread with bullsnork. If Dis doesn't confirm or deny it, leave it alone.

@Voice - Do we need to vote for who we think you are, or target you, or other method?

[Kise]

The wolf knows me well.

[Kise]

I'm sure he's a wonderful person with a good job and and a loving family IRL

He's 13 I think. Or 15, one of those. Anyway, if he's got a job, he must be working in a sweatshop or something. That said, I'm a bit mad he screwed up when sewing my new Jordans, so,

unvote; vote: zwet

[Kise]

BWs are fun, and he isn't anywhere close to being lynched yet so...

unvote; vote: zwet

Scum vote. Calling it right now.

I call next. After we hear from "Voice," I suggest zwet either gets his sh!t together and fix my shoes, or we proceed with the lynching. I personally could care less about the situation with Dis, but I get a nagging feeling he'll be around Day 2 to address everyone else. I suppose it wouldn't do any harm to wait on him as well before ending the day.

[Kise]

Yugioh.

[Kise]

saberwolf is trying to get lynched.

@All - If Discode comes back (from prod or whatever) but neglects answering questions thrown his way, what then? I personally was willing to believe the miller claim and don't think scum would just blatantly own up to such a questionable cutscene (darkness, etc.), but comparing his activity spark to now is odd. In a nutshell, I'd move my suspicion over to him. It's not enough for me to suggest taking care of him today (ie lynch him) because, on one hand, I could understand if he has time issues. Same with me. Finals are next week.

[Kise]

Hold the hell up, Plum. Zwet is well past scummy and not even deserving the respect of a case. He's lucky I said something about him.

[Kise]

saberwolf redeems himself.

Stop being a ninja, Plum. You're not Asian like me.

What am I doing to get lynched? No BS, I really want some tips so I can play better next time. Maybe I'll even develop meta for a change.

I throw fluff here and there but it's accompanied by questions of some sort. I was trying to have a 1-on-1 with DTM earlier but he's in and out. I believe I even threw something Dis' way. Also asked the voice to tell how the heck we can help, but I'm pretty sure there are certain people who know what the voice needs.

Anyway, help me too, Plum.

[Kise]

If it matters, I skipped over the Chris/DoS squabble because neither of them look scummy to me. However, I can't say the same about Cobalt (currently a suspect of mine) and Iecerint's argument. Even though it was explained, Iec's hasty review of the entire thread raised my eyebrow. I figured that's why Vaya asked him about it, but apparently Vaya had a different motive.

[Kise]

DoS, Gorrad, Ray, DTM, saberwolf, Shotty, and anyone that's hidden ---> Your answer to the question in post 655?

[Kise]

Lmfao @ zwet voting for deadline extension. Can we character-claim? Just curious.

@saber - 655??

[Kise]

zwet voted for DL extension in the Bleach game you linked.

saberwolf, answer the question. It's coming from you. YOU are in control of the situation. I'm asking what to do with DisCode if he gets prodded again after every 6 days or whenever, but fails to answer people. Someone already has recommended proceeding with the zwet lynch and deal with Dis D2.

All I wanted to happen (you can iso me) is to hear from the voice on how to help them out. The voice has spoken so I'm ret' to go. This day has been boring as balls due to all the speculation cluttering the thread. This much speculation on day 1 has been a distraction and numbing to read. zwet and players like him are failing to own up to questions directed at them, so they're denying their oppressors/accusers a sincere read. Zwet pops in and comments, not even mentioning whether he's not caught up or not, so I assume he has been reading. Therefore ignoring what is directed at him has earned my vote. The only time I wouldn't vote for zwet is if he was running for prez.

saber, you are denying me as well. The question is not some clever scheme by me as scum to map out or manipulate the flow of the game. Tell me this: If I died and flipped town, would you satisfy me then by answering my question? Because apparently you only won't answer it with the belief that scum want to know how you feel about Dis' situation.

[Kise]

The obvious difference, Plum, is that zwet is asking questions in that game you linked. He's actively trying to find out who's scum because he genuinely doesn't know. Here? Laziness, probably with no need to find scum because he is scum.

664 from Kise saying that they "skipped over" the 'squabble.' Damn, I want to know what passes for scum tells here. I sincerely wish to know this.

Dude defends himself, does nothing else, does not help town in the pursuit of any lynches, gives flawed reasoning, backs off fast as hell when the guy he votes proves he can post (that's me btw) and then just goes back into the shadow.

Also I see this as scummy if DoS does indeed flip scum at a given point because I have found it common that people sometimes get uncomfortable talking directly about taking sides when their scumbuddies are involved because it can be picked at later. Just food for thought.

Is the bolded supposed to be what I've done? Because.. I didn't.. do any of those things.. thank you for getting an avy. It was part of the reason I always skimmed your arguments (you had no character, no life, no flair!). If I have to put it in other words, I didn't feel as though either you or DoS could be scum. I could see townies raising the same points you both have. It doesn't look like an "either-or" situation on top of that.

Thanks for ignoring me, guys. zwet can get lynched since no one cares about Dis. (See my point?)

[Kise]

FTR, I don't policy lynch. That defeats the spirit of the game. People sign up and expect to play a good game, not get taken out for shits and giggles. Now, this has nothing to do with my opinion of zwet in this game because he's doing dick all. Either he's scum that doesn't need to scumhunt, or in any event he's just not interested in playing.

[Kise]

Someone

is anxious to use his night action.
Sajin is looking for something. He just has to trust that he's found it.

[Kise]

*fap, fap, fap, fap, fap, fap*

[Kise]

You got all that from her 1 post?

[Kise]

Either way town can hide in there all the same its just too easy for him to be lynched and everyone look the other way.

So you mad cuz town can't get incriminated? Your POV in this post seems slippery.

[Kise]

@Drip - DeathNote is trying to hide something obviously. You may think scum wouldn't intentionally do the things he's done, but there IS a such thing as low-ranking scum. *smiley*

@Gorrad and Papa Zito - Nice avatars. Specially uploaded for the game I take it... seems like you boys plan to stay around for a long time.(?)

Either way town can hide in there all the same its just too easy for him to be lynched and everyone look the other way.

So you mad cuz town can't get incriminated? Your POV in this post seems slippery.

Its something that annoys me in these games. When there is a bandwagon based on someone being anti-town. They do not always have to be scum but someone who is opening not helping out the town. They are easy to lynch and the following day if they flip town then everyone can chalk that up their crappy play and not take any of the responsibility themselves. It allows scum to hide in the bandwagon and get away with an easy townie lynch without raising suspicions. Else, if the person turns up scum then everyone not on the bandwagon is scummy when Zwet can be 50/50 either way. This appeals for scum to bus said person and ride on that for the next few days and control the townie lynches. No matter how you look at it, town loses out.

Does this make more sense Kise and DGB?

But in the initial quote, you didn't say scum. You said town. Meaning you hate it when town can't take the blame. But enough of that. If zwet flips scum, then we'll go after the people that bussed him rather than those that didn't vote. K?

OK. Exactly one more person may vote zwet.

ALERT Hammering zwet at this time would be extremely anti-town ALERT

If you would otherwise be OK with hammering but cannot because you do not want to be lame, please follow SirPent's lead and post "

Hammer

."

The fuc... he already claimed. So, why is it taboo to still hammer him, yet it's okay to keep piling on votes?

EDIT: Oooooh. Fireworks.

NO EDITING POSTS!!!! I was actually believing to the Kairi claim. I would believe anyone that claimed a common character in fact. I mean, why wouldn't they be legit [town] roles?

FOS Iecerint

A gun.. seriously?

DRIPPING GOOF BALLS, TALK ABOUT THE MILLER THING NAO

[Kise]

If zwet flips scum, then we'll go after the people that bussed him rather than those that didn't vote. K?

Obviously I was reading through the pages while typing this. Didn't check before deciding to post.

[Kise]

I would believe anyone that claimed a common character in fact. I mean, why wouldn't they be legit [town] roles?

Mod-provided fakeclaims? Idiosyncratic scumteam choices (ala the notorious HP mafia)?

So.. the storyline Slicey wants to write is about a bunch of minor characters in that case. Right.

[Kise]

Plum is faking the funk. Kairi is in the top 5, if not top 3 of KH's main characters. I couldn't imagine Kairi NOT being in this game before zwet died. Lastly, let's not try to outguess the mod. Just because I say I'd believe zwet claiming Kairi doesn't mean I should be crucified for it. I can only see scum getting mad at players being confirmed via char-claims.

FOS Plum

so that any suspicion she has on me will be totally OMGUFS.

[Kise]

Quite possibly =/= certainly. But I can assure you that my good humor will never be far off from a serious comment as well. Last thing I want to do at this point is just make fluff posts. I'm not saberwolf after all.

As for the VT claim... thought it was bullshit, but good bullshit. I figured he was really a PR but just wanted to mislead the scum into thinking he wasn't a NK-priority. Of course, there was no reason for me to publicly state this. Now THAT is

certainly

anti-town.

It's

unlikely

for a top-three main character to be a scum fakeclaim, but I certainly

wouldn't rule it out

.

Fencesitting at its most subtle nature... okay, so if your subconscious at first tells you that it's unlikely, why publicly announce how you disbelieve? If you're not going to believe nor doubt, then you shouldn't have taken a stance.

Okay that claim erased the gut-feelings I had on Zwets and the bad-gut feelings about the wagon. That claim is so false even a newb at Kingdom Hearts can smell it three miles away. Diescumdie.

This

, is taking a stance.

Reminder for DGB:

Miller madness making me monkey.

[Kise]

Vote: Gorrad

[Kise]

First of all.. wtf was that, DGB? For someone that I'm sure is not a jester, you sure do match the playstyle... Same has been said about me one time or another.

I laughed at the name Jack Sparrow, thinking of a fitting role. Gorrad, Gorrad, Gorrad.. shame on you.. You run through a list of characters with guns to give the impression that, even if Iecerint claims one of the good guys you mentioned, there are still a load of villains that he really could be. I translated your stance as, "No matter what you claim, Iecerint, there are just so many gun-wielding characters that I won't believe you and my vote isn't going anywhere."

Above all though, there's the unnecessary speculation of roles, supposedly being able to clear DGB as miller after she made a fluff post, and, as I mentioned about your avatar, seems like you know you'll live a long time throughout this game. Call it petty, but only scum boast such confidence. I may need to rephrase that since I doubt anyone knows what I mean by that.

[Kise]

She felt good.

I forgot to ask you Zito about that vote... why?

[Kise]

They wouldn't protect a town miller either, as they'd rather cultivate doubt and associated free lynch. See: Kise.

Goof, I never did. Quote me if you can.

[Kise]

Anti-prod. I need to check posts in between this post and my last one.

[Kise]

Lol @ Reck putting all of my suspects in his town list.

[Kise]

Sorry for the absence, all. I'm back to ketchup.

[Kise]

Cobalt vs. SSK (and KDub)

All rise!

Vote: Cobalt

Now sit ya asses down.

.... that might have been way premature. KDub, no need to claim character but what info did you get on Cobalt? What does fit his description?

[Kise]

So, Cobalt, flavorwise, if your shot was successful in finding a truthful person, it wouldn't harm the target, you say? (comma-kaze!)

[Kise]

Unvote

Not sure if SSK is kill immune but it slipped my mind. Safest thing (as others have said) is to kill Cobalt to understand the role first.

*looks at watch*

[Kise]

Why did I unvote(?)

Kill Cobalt just in case SSK actually is immune. With a Cobalt flip, we know whether his bullet was to find a liar or just to kill a townie (although, non-technically speaking, my viewpoint is that he's not a lie detector of any sort). Order really doesn't matter since they're both lined up for death, but the safer pick is Cobalt to get plugged with holes and SSK to be strung up after the vote reset. Why do you want SSK dead first?

[Kise]

Also I cannot imagine for the life of me why in the nine circles of hell that a scum team would kill Maemuki, talk about a player that, as scum, I would have used and abused while laughing. I would be shocked if that wasn't a town kill, or maybe an independent that thought she was a good suspect for being scum.

Yeah, because cutting someone to pieces is truly townish. Especially when you leave your victim's head facing customers as they enter the doorway...



Now that you've gotten an avatar, I think your post are awesome though. Liked the read you had on the big 4 earlier.

AtE doesn't work on the iceman, Kiseman. Try VP. And merry christmas to you all as well.

[Kise]

That last line was for Cobalt, just to be clear.

[Kise]

OH YEAH!!! Weren't we in Grimm's pokemon game together? I thought I knew you from another game.

[Kise]

@Town
Like seriously, show me if the above transition of events is wrong because this is how I read cobalt's recent posts.

Anyone who doesn't reply to this isn't town. Cobalt is dead meat. All votes on SSK need to halt because it'll end the day. Votes will be reset after Cobalt's death, so voting now is pointless anyway. Raider's affection for Cobalt is noted, though.

[Kise]

Kdub said he has information but until he says what it is, it means nothing to us.

KDub has already said that Cobalt is not from Disney Castle, as claimed by Cobalt himself via

being

King Mickey.

[Kise]

Jokes, buddy.

[Kise]

LLOTFWIL: Kise

@ Sir Chris - I told you, I saw two townies going at it. Don't fuck with my gut.

[Kise]

Cobalt is LYING, meaning he is NOT from Disney Castle, so why should we believe he's a lie detector? His bullet couldn't kill SSK, so the thought now is that Cobalt used a mafia-daykill ability and SSK proved to be kill-immune rather than 1-shot vig as he claimed. So, why risk wasting Iecerint's shot on SSK if he's bulletproof scum (and his role is unproven altogether) when we can kill Cobalt's fibbing ass, then eliminate SSK the only way we see possible: a lynch?

[Kise]

Love you.

[Kise]

I didn't kill him, but I told you guys Gorrad was odd for using a KH avatar as if he expected to live long. Zito should be next.

(The following is some old shit I was trying to post before the thread got locked.)

@U-Kitten: Is this your typical playstyle? (commenting on post subjects)

Me dying is going to anger me! It'd hardly help the scumteams in comparison to the death of town dynamos such as:

Iece
DGB
Sir Chris
Gorrad.

The fact cobalt says so when cobalt's fail scum really should be reason to not kill me as is.

I can understand being a bit fearful of a nightkill, but trying to deflect is not cool at all.

1) How do you know they are roles?

2) how do you know they have actions?

3) how do you know they'll target you?

Heheh.. Trying to see what happened to Chris overnight? Just come out and ask.

[Kise]

Sheeyit, you just helped me remember what it was he was talking about (being visited N2).

Umm.. that doesn't look like Plum.

Vote: DrippingGoofBall

How many Nobodies are left?

[Kise]

Here's DGB's first post:

Hahaha, a zwet Day 1 wagon, what a surprise!!!

Alright. zwet is scum and he is being thrown under the entire Greyhound continental fleet. One hundred percent of the scum is on that wagon. 100%. As in, all of the scum.

Now I will read the game.

But in the meantime, since there is nothing I love more than assisting scumbags bus their own:

vote: zwet

A goofy moment, yes? One that does not really say much about DGB and her alignment, yes?

YES!!!!!

I thought so.

I take back my call to have DisCode claim. Knowing DGB, the role claimed is guaranteed to be a PR and therefore not a good lynch choice D1.

Gorrad is treating this as if the player slot was important. With DGB taking up the slot, it shouldn't make her different from DisCode. I'm pegging this as Nobody-scum needing to revise strategy due to replacement of a member. Unlike DisCode, I could see Goofball as an evil genius that made Cobalt and Gorrad change gameplans for her.

You got all that from her 1 post?

QFT. 1 little post made Gorrad confident enough to back off of DisCode's slot. He publicly states she must have a PR.. so.. why not kill her then? Why not continue to pursue the mystery surrounding Mod Scene 1, Gorrad? Why not keep pushing for the mislynch(?) of DisCode's slot since you pressured him to explain more of why Mod Scene 1 was oh so townie?

Change of strategy, as I said. Has to be.

if a player is in obvious need of protection, it's Gorrad. Please no one comment on this.

Right, so no one can question your awkward doc-directing.

As a reminder, you don't want to fuck with my gut. DoS and Chris read like town to me and that's exactly why I told them I was staying out of their squabble and not fueling it. I got Gorrad's ass December 11 (iso me), and Goofball needs to join him in perdition.

Your welcome.

[Kise]

I'm pegging this as Nobody-scum needing to revise strategy due to replacement of a member. Unlike DisCode, I could see Goofball as an evil genius that made Cobalt and Gorrad change gameplans for her.

She was my godfather in mith's big game. Read the QT. She runs her factions with dictatorship, I know. Zito was with us. Give me your opinion on this issue, Pop.[?]

[Kise]

I am Riku and my role is called Not Really A Vanilla Townie. Now my home was wrecked and I ended up in darkness, blah blah, with a blindfold on. I can choose to remove the blindfold and that's what DisCode did.

Why not keep it on?

Another thing. Unless the Nobody mafia failed to kill, there may have been 3 of them, and they may be completely decimated.

You got roleblocked, yeah?

Enough goofing around. To answer your question from yesterday, I'm calling you Gorrad's (and Cobalt's) partner obviously, since this whole time I've been mentioning Nobodies and not the Heartless mafia.

I'm also glad you quoted the post where you wanted SSK (Heartless) to die D2, and Cobalt to die

yesterday

. In fact, you did mostly everything in your power to get SSK lynched up until Cobalt was caught in a lie and you had no choice to bus him. All I had to do was hit Ctrl+F and check out everytime you mentioned Cobalt yesterday. You always took the elimination of SSK in higher priority than Cobalt's elimination until, as I said, KDub exposed him on top of his floppy fakeclaim.

=================
I'm not liking the Cobalt attention much, it sounds heavy on the distancing.

=================

TOWN

MafiaSSK

(Some other players)

SCUM (in order!)

Cobalt: first zwet vote!

Okay, so you'd want Cobalt to go first it seems....

SCUM (in order!)

Cobalt: first zwet vote! OMG trying to save the "better buddy" aka DoS http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 62#1995462

xRECKONERx

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 80#1995180 this is the motherlode of WIFOM-planting bus'ing scum!!!![/b] although this: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 86#1997386 - he might not be scum with Cobalt. Not sure.

Notice the placement of these two.

SCUM (in order!)

xRECKONERx

wolframnhart

Cobalt

(others)

SHAMWOW! The good ol' switcheroo.

MafiaSSK has to die. We're getting two for the price of one here. MafiaSSK today, he flips scum, we kick Cobalt in the nutz

tomorrow

.

Why not get the one that's been on your scum list longer first [Cobalt]?

FOLKS THIS IS URGENT

I AM STANDING HERE MAKING A WOLRDWIDE APPEAL, A DESPERATE PLEA, BEGGING ON MY KNEES, FOR THE

SPEEDY AND IMMEDIATE LYNCH

OF MafiaSSK.

After

he inevitably flips scum, we kill his scumpal Cobalt.

Again, someone you had as town needs to be lynched before someone you've had as scum since the beginning of time[?]. I'm thinking you wanted to see a townie or Heartless flip so everyone could question how strong the connection between SSK and Cobalt could really be.

[Kise]

Vote: Deathnote

He knows why.

[Kise]

So you think I'm a Nobody with Gorrad, and that I am a Miller that will come up as Heartless???

I don't believe your claim, personally. Why wait until both types of cops die before you reveal to which cop you're a miller? Don't answer, since you've already mentioned something about

desiring

to reveal yesterday..

Seriously, if DisCode/myself wanted to come up with a fake Miller claim, I'd at least get my story straight and say that I'm a miller from the group I'd be in, NOT the group I wouldn't be in. Are you smocking crack? Your premise is completely absurd.

Heheh, get modkilled if you want. In case you missed it a 3rd time, I'm calling you a Nobody.

In fact, you did mostly everything in your power to get SSK lynched up until Cobalt was caught in a lie and you had no choice to bus him.

You are completely out of your mind. I was delighted that we could kill both in one day, and wanted Cobalt dead before SSK for the simple reason that I thought they were in cahoots with each other and that there was a remote possibility that SSK had some immunity.

Damn, woman. Another attack.. tsk tsk..

But here's where you're lying, Goofer. You

did not

want Cobalt dead first because in the post where I quote you, you hurriedly call for SSK's death. Regardless whether you knew about Iecerint's additional kill or not, you still said SSK should IMMEDIATELY be lynched before Cobalt, who, need I remind you, was scum in your list for the entirety of the game. So I'm still wondering why SSK had to go first... why trust Cobalt's info when he's been scum to you longer than SSK?

Either way, both were going to die.

That

All I had to do was hit Ctrl+F and check out everytime you mentioned Cobalt yesterday. You always took the elimination of SSK in higher priority than Cobalt's elimination until, as I said, KDub exposed him on top of his floppy fakeclaim.

No, that was until there was a possibility that SSK might be immune somehow.

Seriously now. I cannot wrap my head around how you can possibly construe anything I said as protecting Cobalt.

Well, hello?

SPEEDY AND IMMEDIATE LYNCH OF SSK. COBALT TOMORROW

..... ring a bell?

I have to think about this. The roleblocking the tracker is a bee in my bonnet. As is the supposed Nobody claiming Heartless miller theory.

I'm raising my eyebrow at the fact you wait until both cops die to claim being Heartless-miller. See, if you claimed yesterday, then Roxas could have investigated you to prove whether or not only Sora would find you guilty. Feel praised a bit, at least. I'm insinuating you're clever.

Kise, do you believe this nonsense you just posted or are you under the influence of controlled susbstances?

My goodness. You're just begging to meet Reck & Chris in the nether realm aren't ya?

[Kise]

DIE SCUM DIE

Kise - Notice how there was no effort at all to get MSSK killed. AT ALL. Not even a vote when MSSK was obvscum.

This is why you die also -->

Not sure if SSK is kill immune but it slipped my mind. Safest thing (as others have said) is to kill Cobalt to understand the role first.

Kill Cobalt just in case SSK actually is immune. Order really doesn't matter since they're both lined up for death, but the safer pick is Cobalt to get plugged with holes and

SSK to be strung up after the vote reset.

Cobalt is LYING, meaning he is NOT from Disney Castle, so why should we believe he's a lie detector? His bullet couldn't kill SSK, so the thought now is that Cobalt used a mafia-daykill ability and SSK proved to be kill-immune rather than 1-shot vig as he claimed. So, why risk wasting Iecerint's shot on SSK if he's bulletproof scum (and his role is unproven altogether) when we can kill Cobalt's fibbing ass, then

eliminate SSK

the only way we see possible: a lynch?

Someone's not reading.

[Kise]

And maybe... maybe... Kise is afraid she'll be caught as the roleblocker later, and I've just declared that the roleblocker is scum. So. Kise has to make some sort of case to justify roleblocking me in case she was to claim roleblocker later on, and look like her actions are justified from a townie perspective.

I"M A DUDE< NOT A SHE! Where did you get that I roleblocked you, or that I'm a roleblocker at all?

Fun!

Unvote; Vote: Kise.

Kise, if you wanna take back or more clearly confirm your RB on DGB, that would not hurt my feelings.

I never roleblocked DGB...

An explanation of the DeathNote vote would be nice too, if only for giggles.

If he flips town (lol, he won't) then I'm held accountable tomorrow. Until then, I reject your fishing rod.

I just read Kise in iso and am reasonably happy with the vote.

Explain. And.. you read me that quick? I've got more content than that.

Kise is dropping character crumbs so bad right now i don't know if he could really be scum, of course the second option is he is getting ready for a claim incase the wagon grows larger, though why he is starting to crumb now is weird.

I"M NOT A ROLLZBLOCUH!

DGB said Nobody are either dead or didn't kill last night. I smiled and asked, "you got roleblocked right?" In case it went over your head, roleblocks can stop the nobody's kill....

[Kise]

I character-crumbed..? No, not yet. I think it's just my regular net vocab. I call it Old Testament-talk.

Also, I didn't see the double kill flavor on KDub. I really don't know nathin in regards to what happened to you last night, DeeGeeBee.

[Kise]

Also, I didn't see the double kill flavor on KDub.

Now that you've seen it, any theory? You may wait until the effect of the crack wears off.

Good crack don't wear off until weeks.

I can't really comment much on who killed KDub because he had a bullseye on his back for a while. I think both scum teams have balls to target a likely doc target, but as the double kill relates to you, if I'm believing that you were indeed roleblocked, then yeah you're clear. Were you told you were RB'd, or do you assume it because you didn't get a result/reply from the mod?

[Kise]

K. Deathnote lynch now?

[Kise]

If he flips town, I'm held accountable tomorrow. Me and me only. And maybe the bus driver.

[Kise]

I really can't see Kise pulling some kind of gambit right now.

What makes you think it's a gambit?

Also, I just thought of something... doesn't Sephiroth like to cut people to pieces?

5. MSSK death fails due to bulletproofness - We have two confirmed scums. This was the best of the "worst case scenarios", which is what you should be thinking of.

So you would have liked it if Iecerint's kill failed and we didn't eliminate two scum in 1 day? You're not paying attention. Cobalt was obvscum thanks to KDub's info. Cobalt was also dead-set on proving SSK was lying so, scum or no scum, Cobalt KNEW SSK was full of crap with the OSV roleclaim. Order didn't matter, as I said to raider, but in the event Cobalt was also lying about what his ability could really do, we didn't want to chance Iecerint shooting a bulletproof scummer (SSK) when we could definitely nab Cobalt and lynch SSK. That was the best scneario...

*looks at your avatar*

...........

[Kise]

K.

[Kise]

L-3? Jesus christ

Unvote

I count 5 players that have not posted today. I'd like to see post from them, and not just regarding Deathnote because he will be dealt with regardless.

[Kise]

Sephiroth's possible, but he's a really minor character. It'll hurt my feelings a little if Xehanort's Heartless isn't included.

Not sure about Xemnas & "Ansem" being on opposite sides.. Kinda weird.. Weren't they working in accordance to Xenahort?

Is there anyone who thinks that Kise is scum and DN isn't?

That's a good question. I'd like to hear answers and reasons for this as well.

[Kise]

Can we get links please, Goof?

DGB: When did you full claim Tracker again?

When I cleared UKitten, but I also hinted at my earlier night choice of Maemuki on Day 2.

Links please.

Your claim right now reads: I wanted to claim, but I didn't -> No explanation on why you waited -> I am Riku with flavor -> Scum would only RB the tracker.

DisCode largely claimed already on Day 1. I only added details.

No.. DisCode just said he became a miller but didn't reveal why. It looked like he converted TBH.

You fully claimed, now where are your results?

You are not reading the game. You are scum.

YOU are not reading the game. DTM is obvtown as of Day 2.

If Papa Zito has a power, and used it last night, it failed. Lame, eh? I'm guessing that Maemuki jailed him, but. Who knows? Papa Zito was very pro-town, he'd be a choice jailkeep target.

Not much of a fullclaim, if this is what you're hinting at. Your connection to Zito and Gorrad is getting stronger by the moment... there's something about Riku that makes me think twice about you being scum. Still, what would have happened if you didn't remove the blindfold?

[Kise]

DTM, a couple of your comments are directed at posts that were corrected. DGB mistakenly believed that the Nobodies had not sent a kill last night, but they actually (probably) did send a kill last night.

I just noticed there have only been two kills most nights. I'm thinking, if not Sephiroth/SK, then cut to pieces = Org XIII and everything else is custom-flavored based on whether Capt. Hook or whoever else from the Heartless Disney villains submits the kills. Crushed could be Ooga Booga or Ursula easily, while exploded reads like something Mal' or Jafar could do.

Re: raider: He made me feel untrusting of him with his persistent calling for SSK to die first. It appears that he didn't care if both of them died, but then he turns around and says that there's hope for Cobalt to be truthful townie. I'd say he'd fit more with the Nobody team, but KDub's attack of him

would

read as caught-Heartless. Either way it falls, I think we'll see a non-town flip of raider.

====================

TOWN

Shotty

DGB
Kise

SCUM

ace5993: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 31#1990831 is scum, also: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 42#1993142

====================

CONCLUSION: these players must die

ace5993

Shotty might need to die later.

Shotty's town, but needs to die? I mean I agree. Shotty, just like Zito & Gorrad, uploaded a KH-based avatar which reads cocky scumbag to me. I think Shotty needs to be looked into.

[Kise]

EBWOP: True story about DTM being obvtown, though. Pretty much the only way he could be non-town is if SSK engineered that N1, but I don't think janitors usually work that way.

Just doublechecked the killscene flavor. It's highly unlikely that SSK was involved IMO.

Huh....? Without telling DGB, do you know the real reason why DTM is obvtown? I think you've misunderstood the janitor role.

[Kise]

Vote: raider

If he's Nobody, I'll back off of DGB. I have nothing that suggests DGB is Heartless. Deathnote can wait. I'll let him fear my roleflip overnight as an insurance policy.

Yeah you got it right, Iece. I think.

[Kise]

The above vote is due to revelation that KDub = Nobody Cop, as pointed out by RayFrost.

[Kise]

By the way, that quote RayFrost used, I was thinking Jack "of-all-trades" Sparrow would fit with having a daykill. But.. guess you don't have many trades.

What does everyone think about Shotty?

[Kise]

Read Zito 82 to know what I mean as well as the number of times Zito and Raider clashed on

D1

further solidifies the point.

Lol. Sounds like a perfect day for distancing.

[Kise]

@EVERYONE

If I am to be today's lynch give me enough time to post my thoughts. Once I flip town maybe they will mean something more.

You coming up on borrowed time, buddy.

@Shotty - I actually got a weird vibe from you day 1 before you changed your avatar. Iso reading you doesn't help me see where you're putting your heart and soul into finding scum. I considered

townie being careful with his votes + level of attention-grabbing

, but it could also be

powerful anti-townie being careful of attention-grabbing

. If you'd be so kind, remind me who you've suspected heavily this game?

[Kise]

Does anyone else think non-town

weren't

given safeclaims? I think Cobalt could have survived if he was certain of a character no one else had. Claiming King Mickey was blatantly an attempt to fish/identify a potentially strong town role, but then when Zito claimed Donald, I have to wonder.

[Kise]

So far, there are 4 of you who have claimed.

Any idea what a Town Hobo is?

[Kise]

Nvm, it's in the wiki.

The hobo is a townie who, during nights, may learn a variety of random and vague information about a group of players. Information ranges from "This person did nothing" to "two figures meeting these descriptions had an altercation" to "this is the role of the person who died last night" in games where the roles of the deceased are hidden.

So maybe Chris would know who left their house N1. I can't make anything of use from iso reading his D2 posts, but anyone else is more than welcome.

Certain roles may not target the hobo due to his lack of a house.

Raffle.

A hobo sounds awesome. I had a similar role in my MGS game off-site but I called him Modified Reporter.

[Kise]

RE: Mass-Nameclaim:
Not today, nor tomorrow. The less the Heartless know, the better. The way I see it, there's 1 Nobody, 3 Heartless, 11 townies presumably. We're in good enough shape that we don't have to resort to massclaiming, but I'm thinking the more believable claims will definitely be in this game, so scum may be in a handicapped position when massclaiming-day does come. I predict there to be a large number of believable roles (i.e. important characters), leaving scum with questionable character-claims.

[Kise]

We can go today, it's just less challenging. *shrug*

[Kise]

Just names. Raider should claim regardless because he's the next lynch I see.

[Kise]

Thwarted is a word you'd find in a villain's vocabulary. (kidding)

[Kise]

Well keep in mind that Cobalt & Zito were of the same faction. Maybe their group's plan was to draw out the real Mickey & Donald, whereas SSK (separate faction) just wanted to make a reasonable claim to go along with his ability. Didn't he say his "1-shot vig" would blow up the target? I remember seeing Gorrad being blown up, so that could have been Heartless' excuse if Gorrad's death was ever traced back to them. Plus, SSK claimed before the other scum so his approach was different.

You never know what they were thinking.

[Kise]

I think we can claim flavor also. So, raider, if you'd be a gent' and paraphrase flavor... I dunno. We might still lynch you, but it'd be appreciated.

[Kise]

Nah hold up, raider ain't finished lol.

[Kise]

Heheheh, raider is lying. Scar is NEVER a heartless in the game; merely a ghost. His flavor is too long for a VT anyway. Unless you want to believe Scar is really here and is 3rd party, then put the votes back on him, prease. Scar is not Heartless, I repeat.

http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Scar

[Kise]

Scar damn sure isn't Nobody neither.

[Kise]

Hmm, I forgot about Scar coming back to life. I just completed my second visit of the Pride Lands where Scar is a ghost.

I dunno what to make of it now.. In the back of my mind, I'm thinking the Heartless mafia are the main villains from KH1 ((Jafar, Maleficent, Jafar, Ursula, Hades, Ooga Booga, Capt. Hook)).

It... might be possible for Scar to be heartless, but I'm still thinking KDub was onto something.

[Kise]

The villains I just listed

controlled

the heartless, so that explains the Captain Hook role since Hook himself never turned into a heartless. Scar could control them after teaming with Pete, but I think it was more of Pete's doing than Scar's since Pete was with Maleficent.

Why don't we choose a good number of folks the majority think are scummy to claim next? I personally think Sajin should go last.

[Kise]

Ok, let's lynch raider then. KDub likely got a Nobody-reading from him.

[Kise]

Goof, hammer. Prease.

[Kise]

Doh! He's only at L-2.

[Kise]

Because it's a joke. Right above that post, Goof ask, "Would Scar like to claim?" Ray has said a few times afterward that he does not wish to

name claim

, so he isn't seriously Scar.

Now, raider votes, ladies?

[Kise]

Meh. Raider lynch > DN lynch for me.

Sajin already knows the story.. Player hater..

[Kise]

It was non-existent.

@Kise- Are you trying to be John McClaine now? That just won't do.

(-_-)

[Kise]

A complex reaction-gauger I laid to the side while still having at it with DGB. I didn't expect followers that quickly so I hopped the hell off.

Wolf gave me the strangest response by calling it a gambit, but he said it involved luck and also said it was only a gambit if I was rival scum from DN. Don't quite get how that thought formed but I was expecting scum to call my bluff since they would know they're the only threat to town left. So, mildly curious why wolf decided it was gambit from scum and not from town[?]. Further more, why he would trust what he called a scum-driven gambit.

Also, Wolf, what character did you think I was crumbing?

[Kise]

Hmmm......

[Kise]

Oh, I thought you meant when I was talking all uppity.

So you don't hate me?

[Kise]

Nope.

[Kise]

Man, it got quiet as a toothpick in here.

Huh?

[Kise]

Are you saying that -- in spite of the presence of reasonable suspicion of other players -- you were pushing a clandestine policy lynch on DN?

Yes, YES MOTHERF**KERS, I wanted to teach him a lesson and manipulate everyone into lynching his skulking ass. He's dead already to this game.

There I said it!

GAAAAAAAAAHAHHHUKUJHAKSJDHJKSDABNJK@#!IIUQ!@)(LKAN

There are leads suggesting raider could be a Nobody. I'd rather get to the bottom of that instead of carry out my dickheaded plan.

And yes, I would have still accounted for DN if he flipped town.

[Kise]

Policy lynching before lylo is a damn good reason. Take tubby in the Webcomic theme game for example (which I'd consider gameover via the hints posted). I haven't updated my wiki in a very long time, but that game was one of my earliest on site. I'm pretty sure I [town] just lost that game because there wasn't enough focus of ridding the lurkers early. All that damn work over months of playing and stalling and the scum win in 3-player lylo because town didn't deal with a "question mark."

Anyway, that totally wasn't a rant. Priority should be to take away possibly the last Nobody to eliminate the number of nightkills. I'm still looking at raider. How 'bout you?

[Kise]

I would ask where exactly, but the answer is no regardless.

@Kise- Are you trying to be John McClaine now? That just won't do.

I'm interested to know how you saw through me.(?) I didn't jack your swagger too hard, I'd say.

[Kise]

Maemuki

Sir Pent

foilist13

,

Tron, Town Jailkeeper,

cut in pieces Night 1.

23.

Vaya,

Chip, Town Co-Busdriver,

stabbed Night 1

-----
1.

Gorrad,

Xemnas, Nobody Godfather

, exploded Night 2.

13.

Plum

Whoot1234

,

Sora, Town Heartless Cop

, cut to pieces Night 2.

------
6.

Kdub,

Roxas, Town Nobody Cop

, crushed and cut to pieces Night 3

Cut to pieces is the only recurring NK flavor. It's speculated that stabbed, exploded and crushed are modified methods of killing, but come from the same faction. As you can see with KDub, he was popular last night among the killers. Not only did he get his guts cut the f*ck up, but he also got crushed. Now in case you aren't aware, KDub was very town after nabbing Cobalt for us the previous day, so it should be without question that those who wanted him dead would not be pro-town. Moral of the story is that there may have only been one kill last night, but it was from two sides.

[Kise]

Bah..

[Kise]

Let me put it this way. This entire post ---->

A complex reaction-gauger I laid to the side while still having at it with DGB. I didn't expect followers that quickly so I hopped the hell off.

Wolf gave me the strangest response by calling it a gambit, but he said it involved luck and also said it was only a gambit if I was rival scum from DN. Don't quite get how that thought formed but I was expecting scum to call my bluff since they would know they're the only threat to town left. So, mildly curious why wolf decided it was gambit from scum and not from town[?]. Further more, why he would trust what he called a scum-driven gambit.

<--- is bullsnork. It's something I made after the fact, influenced by the reactions I got to my secret tell on DN (instead of what I initially intended to do by voting DN). Me saying that the scum know they're the only ones left is illogical since there are two scumteams. I didn't preview my post before submitting it so I flubbed up. Now, here I stand ending the charade, admitting I've got no lead on DN but want to lynch him out of principle. And I don't feel like much of a shit-head behind it.

[Kise]

Kinda.

Unvote; Vote: deathnote

[Kise]

Unvote

[Kise]

What's an SW?

Vote: raider

[Kise]

How?

[Kise]

Kise votes Gorrad wordlessly.

After Gorrad's scummy post.

I see a potential Kise/DeathNote corrilation as a Heartless Mafia.

especially since I seen kise is online, viewing ThemePark.

The fuck? I went to sleep at midnight so I know I wasn't online at this time.

Town points to Shotty, eliminating him from being a nobody, still remotely entertaining him as a heartless nobody.

Heartless scum***

? ? ? ? Right ? ? ? ?

The blue scum is here:

DTMaster

(IT"S GAW DAMN DALE)

Deathnote

(I get the feeling DN really doesn't have a scum team to help guide him.. I'll say I now believe the Cricket claim)

Starbuck fuzzylightning

(Unsure, but the raider case looks good)

Sajin

(No, no, nononononononononononoNO)

PICK ONE

NO!

.......

NO!

We've had our thumbs up our asses for a whole week. I'm not running in a circle any longer. Either we agree that KDub caught raider as Nobody, raider defended Cobalt-scumbuddy heavy, and that raider found that long ass flavor for Simba on a wiki page, or... or you just don't and I will be removing you from my facebook.

I

hope

raider is Nobody, and is the last Nobody so that there is one less nightkill going around. We'll also be able to know whether cut-to-pieces is the nobody's doing or the heartless' doing.

[Kise]

Most of us have already reviewed your post, Shotty. I'm not convinced.

[Kise]

[Kise]

If me and Kise are both alive tomorrow, then i be making big big case to be getting point across.

You can do it today.

[Kise]

I'm not liking Iecerint's votehopping lately but I don't think the Nobody mafia would have a 2-shot day killer AND a name-claim killer.

[Kise]

Cobalt,

Xigbar, Nobody Claim Killer

, shot Day 2.

[Kise]

Worst day phase ever.

[Kise]

You never responded to this, ace:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 08#2046008

[Kise]

Organization XIII is a faction in the game. Hook, along with other members of the evil council, were the main villainous faction from KH1. Scar never had a faction to help him control Heartless; he ran into Pete who was Maleficent's henchmen/ambassador. He's a fuggin' lion.

Notice everyone has to turn into animals when they travel to the Pride Lands? That's how they understand the native creatures and communicate with them as animals. So I imagine Hook only understanding Scar if he transformed into an animal first.

Keep in mind Simba was a summon in KH1.

I feel like this is outguessing the mod but it's 50/50.

[Kise]

Actually, for another step of outguessing -- wouldn't it make for superior parallelism if XIII were the "KH2" villains and Heartless were the "KH" villains? If that were the case, we'd have still-more-reason to believe that raider is lying, since Scar is only in KHII IIRC. [/outguess]

There you go, Drip.

[Kise]

Kise is protecting raider, which would imply they were on the same scumteam, right?

I'm defending somebody I'm voting for...? Where?

[Kise]

So Iecerint thinks I'm defending raider? Or.. who thinks I'm defending raider? And why?

KDub probably caught him and raider is probably the last Nobody. Just because raider and Zito fought day 1 don't mean it was genuine, especially if they didn't lock horns again the following days.

[Kise]

I was scum in Gorrad's mini theme. I roleblocked Sajin one night and the next day he tells everyone not to say anything; demanded that I fullclaimed. I thought somebody bus-drove him and my block didn't work, because even my kill didn't go as planned. He was the town cop but he instead claimed tracker and said he saw me target last night's victim (really was the SK's doing). Basically I tried to convince everyone I roleblocked him and he was lying in lylo, but things didn't go that way and he got me lynched.

When the game is over with, I find out that I DID roleblock him and he pulled a gambit where he claimed to have tracked me when really he had no clue of my alignment at the time. I congratulated him for the mindfuck and cigarette, calling him John McClane for such a risk that paid off in town's favor in the end.

Here when he asks if I'm trying to be McClane, he's asking me if I was doing something similarly as risky as he did in Gorrad's game.

[Kise]

The fun starts here:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 04#1953504

Sup, Kitten

[Kise]

Stop wasting your time with me and go for the guy that said Scar is in the game.

That guy = raider

[Kise]

Should we go back to mass-nameclaiming?

[Kise]

Ehh.. I recall Zito vehemently saying that the modvoice was anti-town for withhold info or some jazz like that.

[Kise]

The light is strong within Plum, Gorrad and Reckoner.

Sajin didn't know nothing about alignments. Case closed.

[Kise]

Speculating about scum roles is not bad, but more often than not it can be pointless. If the motivation for this kind of speculation is because someone thinks a mafia role had an effect on what happened during the night or with their action/ability, then I guess it's fine. I myself am the type to just play, so to each his own.

Just don't get to the point where it's confusing everyone into believing the speculation as fact.

http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php ... Repetition
http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php ... Metagaming

[Kise]

So what's the hold up with the raider lynch again? I see stabbed, exploded and crushed as kill flavors. Do you really think Scar would do any of those with his claws?

My guess would be stabbed = Hook; exploded = Genie Jafar, Hades or Maleficent; crushed = Oogie Boogie or Ursula.

Point in case is that these are KH1 villains, not a KH2 villain [Scar].

[Kise]

(Unofficial but accurate votecount)

raider8169 (8): Starbuck, Sajin, ace5993, Iecerint, Kise, Iecerint, RayFrost, wolframnhart
Flareonage (4): DrippingGoofball, UncertainKitten, Snow White,
Kise (2): Snow_White, ace5993
Hayker (1): raider8169
UncertainKitten (1): Flareonage
Flareonage (1): DrippingGoofball

That means we've got a lynch

[Kise]

Nevermind, ace is voting me now. Plus I counted Iecerint twice for some reason. Raider is at L-2..

[Kise]

Lol okay that wasn't as accurate as I thought.

raider8169 (6): Starbuck, Sajin, Kise, Iecerint, RayFrost, wolframnhart
Flareonage (2): UncertainKitten, DrippingGoofball
Kise (2): Snow_White, ace5993
Hayker (1): raider8169
UncertainKitten (1): Flareonage

[Kise]

And who would have shed a tear if DN was lynched... You?

SW, do you really think a giant lion named scar is responsible for the crushed kill flavor? Do you really think there is an SK here? Honestly? Why are you overthinking a very simple day phase? Raider said Scar IS HERE and IS SCUM, then later says he doesn't know for sure.

At least I admit when I'm full of crap.

[Kise]

Non existant my ass. "Saying DN wouldnt flip town, followed by a pretence claim of taking responsiblity if DN does flip town except that coincidentally the busdriver had something to do with it too and then denying he had ever implied such a power is a bad bad sign."

So do you think I know something extra about DN/Flare? Sounds like it. I was willing to risk DN flipping town and taking blame for leading the charge. I might use that escape plan in another game so I decline saying what I would of done if DN flipped town here.

In what way is manipulation good to the town? And if DN was a townie he was still going to flip dead townie. Not good for town. And wait a minute! I thought you were blaming the busdriver for if DN/Flareon flipped town?

It's good to the town to give them a reason to lynch a lurker. Had to make it sound like a night action result to juice it up.

Well now that DN has been replace with Flareonage who is by all accounts alot more active and participating than DN, what do you make of him? You still planning this candelstine lynch?

He's active. There's no reason to lynch someone willing to play.

[Kise]

You can't have your cake and eat it too. But, keep in mind, even if I was scum, I wouldn't know if DN was town or rival scum. So calling DN a lurker townie could be an inaccurate statement.

[Kise]

My point is that you said I was "targeting lurker

townies

like DN."

[Kise]

Because when you say I went after lurker-town, you imply that DN was obvtown at the time I voted.

[Kise]

@Kise
I answered your flavour questions with a thought. No answer?

Wrong person. I don't recall asking you any question at all.

[Kise]

No, I'm dealing with "question marks." If DN posted more and actually answered questions directed at him, I would leave him alone.

[Kise]

How long would you have left DN go by, playing like he was?

[Kise]

Scum are unlikely to kill them, and you're unlikely to get a good idea of their alignment without it.

No telling whether DN was down with the scum or not, is what I'm getting at.

[Kise]

Shittin' me! I white lie as town and try my hand at gambits and scare tactics occasionally. I lied as odd-night cop by claiming even-night cop to lower chance of being roleblocked; I claimed PGO when I was really Ascetic; as Ghost, I claimed to be able to make my nightkiller voteless the next day when really I could just make a vote from beyond the grave; a few games, I've faked breadcrumbs or jokingly softclaimed a powerrole knowing damn well I was VT; and I think it was on-site when I faked submitting a daykill in a thread just to scare a newb and see how he responded when thinking he was going to be out of the game soon.

[Kise]

I've faked breadcrumbs or jokingly softclaimed a powerrole knowing damn well I was VT

Admittedly, there was one time where I just wanted to draw scum's kill and end my obligation to the game.

>_>

<_<

But hey, better I get nightkilled than the real powerroles.

[Kise]

Gawrsh.. I was hoping someone [living] could throw me a phoenix down..

[Kise]

Damn good roles, and a damn good game, Slicey. I think most of us are unionized now as themed game players.

I'd like to personally thank whomever for killing Kise, even if he was the doctor. We would have lynched him eventually if he hadn't died that night

Really!?! Pointing fingers at Zito, Gorrad, and nearly Shotty was no good? raider was the only mistake I took part in. I backed off of DGB & Flare at good enough times.

[Kise]

I remember failhammering the SK-Survivor or whatever in Grimm's game. Can't remember much outside of that... other than I won.

In hindsight I should have pushed harder on a wolf case. Vaya's early game suspicions were spot on.

Yeah he started to agree with me too much before him and I got killed, and that started making me feel all tingly inside... but, hell, I wasn't ready to cut loose any supporters just yet.

[Kise]

you managed to make everything think that I was scum

It's this mouthpiece of mine. I have a way with words. I can talk grandmothers out of their panties.

[Kise]

So I know what oatmeal 'n raisins looks like.

[Kise]

You know you want my grammy. Her milkshake brings all the boys to the yard, and I bet you're thirsty. Come get a couple'a slurps. ^_^

[Kise]

And you didn't choke?

SHIT

That's a miracle.

DIE

Glad to hear.

You know, there are

some

milkshakes that come in powdered form. Try it again.