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Post Post #2725 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:11 pm

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Iecerint wrote:EBWOP: True story about DTM being obvtown, though. Pretty much the only way he could be non-town is if SSK engineered that N1, but I don't think janitors usually work that way.
Iecerint wrote:Just doublechecked the killscene flavor. It's highly unlikely that SSK was involved IMO.
Huh....? Without telling DGB, do you know the real reason why DTM is obvtown? I think you've misunderstood the janitor role.
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Post Post #2726 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:15 pm

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Of course. It's not really a secret. Anyone who read D2 should be able to understand it.

What I was saying is that the only way DTM could possibly be Heartless is if SSKjanitor had above-and-beyond the norm abilities. Like, rewriting roles and alignments rather than hiding them. But I think that probably would've been reflected in the flavor, and it wasn't.
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Post Post #2727 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:18 pm

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If you still think I've misunderstood something, please enlighten me. All I know about the janitor role is what I read on the wiki.
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Post Post #2728 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:24 pm

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Vote: raider


If he's Nobody, I'll back off of DGB. I have nothing that suggests DGB is Heartless. Deathnote can wait. I'll let him fear my roleflip overnight as an insurance policy.

Yeah you got it right, Iece. I think. :)
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Post Post #2729 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:25 pm

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The above vote is due to revelation that KDub = Nobody Cop, as pointed out by RayFrost.
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Post Post #2730 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:29 pm

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So...your information on DN isn't 100% fullproof, after all? :?
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Post Post #2731 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:32 pm

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Iecerint wrote:So...your information on DN isn't 100% fullproof, after all? :?
He never said it was.
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Post Post #2732 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:35 pm

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Not explicitly, no, he didn't. But I think the secret tell must be pretty extreme, or he wouldn't have sacrificial idol'd himself like that.

Ah well, whatever. I think raider's scummy, anyway. <_<
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Post Post #2733 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:36 pm

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I'm pretty sure there's space for me on the wagon innit.
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Post Post #2734 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:03 pm

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RayFrost wrote:Why would he include the King if he wasn't trying to match flavor elsewhere?

Or did you seriously not think?
I thought it might just be means to justify a power role.
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Post Post #2735 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:04 pm

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...

and justifying a power role would require it be a fakeclaim, no?

otherwise, no need for justification, as it would just be the truth.
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Post Post #2736 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:07 pm

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RayFrost wrote:...

and justifying a power role would require it be a fakeclaim, no?

otherwise, no need for justification, as it would just be the truth.
No, but if he claims something like Simba it would appear to be a VT but saying King Simba would make it appear to be a PR. Its just my thinking as wrong or right as it may or may not be.

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Post Post #2737 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:09 pm

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By the way, that quote RayFrost used, I was thinking Jack "of-all-trades" Sparrow would fit with having a daykill. But.. guess you don't have many trades. :lol:

What does everyone think about Shotty?
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Post Post #2738 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:09 pm

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Raider should post his thoughts.

We shouldn't lynch him until we have moar posts from people.

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to make sure my point is clearer.
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Post Post #2739 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:41 pm

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Kise wrote:What does everyone think about Shotty?
I'd like him to die. You've asked me a whole bunch of questions and I'm too tired to go through everything, but yes I had him in my town list but I failed to remove him from it when I put him in the to-kill list.
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Post Post #2740 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:06 pm

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Shotty rubs me the wrong way, but I think the case on raider is a little better, and your secret scumtell on DeathNote also lets him beat Shotty for now.
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Post Post #2741 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:34 pm

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Iecerint wrote:Shotty rubs me the wrong way, but I think the case on raider is a little better, and your secret scumtell on DeathNote also lets him beat Shotty for now.
What secrete scum tell? Who is slipping false evidence against me?
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Post Post #2742 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:43 pm

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DeathNote wrote:
Iecerint wrote:Shotty rubs me the wrong way, but I think the case on raider is a little better, and your secret scumtell on DeathNote also lets him beat Shotty for now.
What secrete scum tell? Who is slipping false evidence against me?
I bet if you actually read the start of today up until now you could actually see the answer to your place holder post question.
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Post Post #2743 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:27 pm

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This thread needs posts from those that haven't posted in it.

The mod's being annoying about something too.
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Post Post #2744 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:29 pm

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And that was fairly obvious: Sora Heartless cop flipped and therefore Roxas Nobody cop. Go figure. 2x kill flavors, kill flavors attached to individuals is most likely.

@Ace- Why does pressure from 1 scum group on someone make the person who was pressured town? Your willing to excuse all of hayker's lack of opinions and mud throwing when he does have opinions simply because Zito flipped nobody? Does it make him unlikely nobody? Probably.

@DGB- I dislike the edit of your claim to flavorized miller. I would think that would have been obvious enough to point out at first and at least not have to be called out on it. Blah. Your play has been pretty town so far but I have been fooled before.

@Kise- Are you trying to be John McClaine now? That just won't do.

@Deathnote- Please give your opinion on people. Thanks.
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Post Post #2745 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:35 pm

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Deathnote is an inveterate lurker.

You shouldn't expect him to post anything whatsoever of value.
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Post Post #2746 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:51 pm

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Looks like there's a few pages to catch up on, but here's the promised PBPA before I do that.

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0-7: Catchup/summary posts
8: Votes DoS
9: Against Zwet lynch, wants to wait till closer to deadline, prefers DoS lynch
10: Tunneling is bad, explains why DoS is scummy for tunneling and Iec isn't.
11: Nothing.
12: Defense against Ray
13: Accuses DoS of hunting easy targets.
14: Makes a decent point against Zito but turns it into a we should lynch DoS thing instead.
15: Another point against Zito.
16: TL;DR anger mode towards DoS.
17-18: Noncontent.
19: Keeps arguing over Zwet wagon with Zito.
20: Goes after DoS some more.
21: Still against Zwet wagon.
22: I like this post alot, he articulates his reasoning very well here.


I'm not even going to go any further than this, the case that he's a Nobody based on that KDub post pales in comparison to how much hate Zito had for him, way too much there for it to be bussing. Read Zito 82 to know what I mean as well as the number of times Zito and Raider clashed on D1 further solidifies the point.

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Need to reread now, looks like DGB killed two pages with walls or something....
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Post Post #2747 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:57 am

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Shotty, can you please take a look at my case as well as Ray's case on Raider? It's mostly based during Day 2 which you never got to.
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Post Post #2748 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:00 am

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Shotty to the Body wrote:Read Zito 82 to know what I mean as well as the number of times Zito and Raider clashed on
D1
further solidifies the point.
Lol. Sounds like a perfect day for distancing.
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Post Post #2749 (ISO) » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:35 am

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Kise wrote:
Shotty to the Body wrote:Read Zito 82 to know what I mean as well as the number of times Zito and Raider clashed on
D1
further solidifies the point.
Lol. Sounds like a perfect day for distancing.

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