Kingdom Hearts Mafia - Game Over!

[RayFrost]

vote: ace

I believe he's scum.

[wolframnhart]

Playing this has gotten me into playing KH again, so I know the Council.

Maleficint, Hades, Hook, Oogi Boogie, Jafar, and Ursula. Clayton was never really a Heartless, he just used them (unless that counts?). Scar was in KHII as a shadow from what I remember. Mulan was an ally in KHII.

Maybe Iecerint could be right about the Council being the Heartless Scum Group 1, and the Nobodies be Scum Group 2, we would have to lynch another Heartless to find out.

[Iecerint]

maleficent, ursula, jafar, that guy that was evil in mulan, and bob sagget.

Mulan's is KH2 IIRC.

The other KH villains are Oogie Boogie and Hades. So I guess Hook isn't a total left-field choice, even if I personally find him the most boring.

Unvote; Vote: raider

. I'm ambivalent between him and Kise. I don't want to lynch ace for the reason Sajin indicated.

[RayFrost]

forgot ace had claimed

unvote, vote: raider

I luvz tis linch

[UncertainKitten]

Flare is town.

Iec was obviously accusing you of coaching Flare, UK. Like I said before.

Can we lynch raider please. Thank you.

Why is flare town? And I've apparently missed a lot of obvious things lately :S.

I didn't do any of that so by your logic I'm a total idiot. I don't even know what ISO is

Fortunately, following my advice of starting on D2 would also have the same effect of finding DN's claim. Looks like I really saved your ass from being too obvious...I think I'll be more careful in the future.

[quote="Iec]
You replaced DeathNote. Flare has plenty to worry about regardless of his alignment.

Anyway, welcome to the game. I'll be nicer so long as you're well-behaved. Razz [/quote]

I'll admit I should back off slightly since I am basically transposing my policy hate of DN on this poor new guy

I read his posts and now I see where you guys are coming from. Sorry I'm so similar to that. I too dig Kingdom Hearts

As I said, you've been marginally better.

unvote

vote: Uncertainkitten

Changing my vote back to what it was since I saw that iecerint already claimed

/me adopts a very bored, snarky voice

Once again, it's D4. I'd prefer something more than a random vote. If the vote on me is well reasoned, I'd be happier as it'd be more committal to a stance.

Yep. Has been speculated.

I'll support SW. Unvote; Vote: Kise. Fake DN scumtell, DN ultimately unlikely to have been scum, raiderNobodywagon discredited to an extent.

I mostly understand this but...do you think there are indeed two nobodies left?

I don't see why we're not lynching Flareonage.

I'm on the fence at this point. If he puts up, we won't have to shut him up.

Post 3338: Now, you see, stuff like this is a good start. Please, continue. If you can use in game evidence to support your theory we might get somewhere :p

Unfortunately it appears to have been disproven. But...I am leaning that Flare is less likely to be nobody scum anyway.

SW's SK theory is...somewhat ok but the fact that there are two scum groups and only two kills per night so far would imply that it's not the case.

HOWEVER, there is nothing stopping me from Vote: Kise, because I still do believe he is scum. I'm thinking Heartless at this point, but then I'm not sure who the last nobody is because my other top scum read (raider) is also probably Heartless.

I am perfectly happy with either a Kise or a raider lynch today. Raider is still obvscum I think for the bogus claim. I find it highly unlikely that Scar is scum with so many better choices for Heartless villains. Scar wasn't really directly involved with the Heartless at any point.

There is a lot of fail in this entire post.

Why are you not voting raider, your top pick (or is he at L-1 and I'm stupid?)? Secondly, why do you think raider is heartless even though we were looking at the NOBODY COP'S POSSIBLE BREADCRUMB? Finally, it seems like you are trying to throw away a scum in front of you.

Ah well...dunno what to make of this.

For the time being, I'll kinda back off flare on the fond hope he produces decent content. I'm up for a raider lynch. Don't really understand the case on Kise outside of LAL, and honestly, I think it was too risky a lie for scum to want to try.

[Kise]

Actually, for another step of outguessing -- wouldn't it make for superior parallelism if XIII were the "KH2" villains and Heartless were the "KH" villains? If that were the case, we'd have still-more-reason to believe that raider is lying, since Scar is only in KHII IIRC. [/outguess]

There you go, Drip.

[DrippingGoofball]

raider9548 isn't blue scum.

The blue scum is DeathNote or Starbuck.

This being said I don't mind voting raider6479 as possible red scum.

unvote, vote: raider9318

[Iecerint]

NB: Hook's selection becomes considerably LESS left-field if Slicey limited himself to KH1 Heartless villains to make up the scumteam. He becomes a little more odd if we include KH2 villains into the roles he could have chosen. So that makes raider's Scar-is-Heartless claim look fishier.

WFH, what does it mean that Scar is a "shadow"? Is that different from being a Heartless?

[UncertainKitten]

raider9548 isn't blue scum.

The blue scum is DeathNote or Starbuck.

This being said I don't mind voting raider6479 as possible red scum.

unvote, vote: raider9318

Why is raider not blue?

[Iecerint]

I think there is 1 Nobody left. Why do you think I think there are 2?

SW's SK idea is very silly. It is also a little weird that she jumped onto a lame idea someone else had as soon as I supported her bandwagon, and then backed off of her idea, saying that it didn't really fit, as soon as I mentioned it to her. O_o

Case on Kise is "I had a good feeling!"/attempted policy lynch on DN based on admitted lie coupled with PR-insinuating "I'll take responsibility for his flip tomorrow if necessary"/potential slip with "scum would know they are the only threats to the town left," which he retracted, saying that it was an error on his part.

I think DGB said it was because of the VC.

[DrippingGoofball]

Why is raider not blue?

Voting analysis, secret formula, etc.

[UncertainKitten]

I think there is 1 Nobody left. Why do you think I think there are 2?

Well, that's part of your case, right? Kise is protecting raider, which would imply they were on the same scumteam, right?

Voting analysis, secret formula, etc.

Nyeh...still...

[raider8169]

Why is raider not blue?

Voting analysis, secret formula, etc.

That and I am townie

[wolframnhart]

WFH, what does it mean that Scar is a "shadow"? Is that different from being a Heartless?

Well i haven't gotten to KHII yet, so maybe shadow and heartless is the same? I guess when i think heartless I think Heartless Council who had control of their thoughts/actions and Scar's shadow was more like evil emotions left over and haunting the Pride Lands.

[RayFrost]

shadow = type of heartless

the little guys that you meet when destiny island is attacked.

[Iecerint]

Well, that's part of your case, right? Kise is protecting raider, which would imply they were on the same scumteam, right?

Uh, no? Why, is that what SW said? I am suspicious of Kise for the reasons I just listed in that previous post.

But come to think of it, Kise preferring DN is only scummy (the fact that he did, I mean; the way he did it is scummy regardless) if raider is scum. So that's all the more reason to prefer a raider lynch to a Kise lynch.

[Flareonage]

I'm gonna leave iecerint alone now. Clayton makes sense but the heartless council makes more sense.

kingdomhearts.wikia.com

For those of you not too familiar with the games

[Iecerint]

EBWOP: Oh, I see what you meant. That just meant that the raiderIsANobody train-of-thought had been discredited by a couple of players (DGB, Shotty, etc).

[UncertainKitten]

But come to think of it, Kise preferring DN is only scummy (the fact that he did, I mean; the way he did it is scummy regardless) if raider is scum. So that's all the more reason to prefer a raider lynch to a Kise lynch.

Right. This makes sense.

[Kise]

Kise is protecting raider, which would imply they were on the same scumteam, right?

I'm defending somebody I'm voting for...? Where?

[UncertainKitten]

I'm defending somebody I'm voting for...? Where?

I'm not saying this, I'm quoting a case.

[Shotty to the Body]

There's alot of supposition that doesn't add up on this page... Why is raider a redscum again? I thought the case on him was presumed to be on a blue scum. And that case falls apart pretty hard, I don't see how we can discredit a Scar in the game because we don't like the idea, he was a boss enemy yes? (I haven't played KH)

I'm looking at Kise and Ace in ISO right now, not liking the vibes from either of them. Scratch that actually, I'm not liking the vibes from Ace, but SW's case merits looking into. The only thing I don't like about Kise before rereading was his secret info that was a lie. Feels like Ace is playing off my raider can't be blue scum idea without providing evidence of him being red scum, then again DGB is doing the same.

[DrippingGoofball]

We're kinda stalling. All my leads (especially Flareonage/DeathNote) have been taser'ed with theme flavor stuff.

[Kise]

So Iecerint thinks I'm defending raider? Or.. who thinks I'm defending raider? And why?

KDub probably caught him and raider is probably the last Nobody. Just because raider and Zito fought day 1 don't mean it was genuine, especially if they didn't lock horns again the following days.

[Shotty to the Body]

We're kinda stalling. All my leads (especially Flareonage/DeathNote) have been taser'ed with theme flavor stuff.

He never claimed did he? What's theme-related to him with no claim?

Less KH more mafia please.