Mini 867- TTGL Mafia: GAME OVER: Roles posted.

[Chaco]

Jahudo needs some love. :3

Vote: Jahudo

[Chaco]

Shh Forbs.

So you're essentially unkillable, and you just killed Boxman. This game is awesome.

But yeah, still. . major

FoS

.

I'm glad you think so ^-^

[Chaco]

Random vote.

[Chaco]

Actually, the best strategy is to ignore them if you can. If you have no viable scum candidates at the end of day 1, they might be a good alternative, but it's better to go after scum than third party.

Sorry to interject, but ignoring them is a losing battle. I feel it's best just to lynch them and get them out of the way, so long as it won't end the game.

[Chaco]

Why couldn't it be entirely random?

Also, thank you Vi for agreeing Jester should just die.

[Chaco]

@Vi: He had no votes, I randomly chose a person with no votes. Hence, random vote.

@Sociopath: I see where you get your "coaching" idea from, however, that is not the case. I was putting out my idea that we should just lynch them and get them over with. Do you see any problems with this? Why?

[Chaco]

*points to signature*

My bad, and by the time I have time to go in depth. . .hammer is dropped.

[Chaco]

Now let's here more from Jebus, xofelf and Cacho. They really haven't given an opinion on Sera yet.

He played a rather impulsive, and luck based tactic. It was ill advised, and while he does admit to that it doesn't justify his action of kicking reason to the curb. I though it was a dumb move, nothing really more. It's null to me. Anyways, I'm not sure about the unlynchable, I guess we'll see. It seems uncertain.

@Socio: Answer what I posed earlier?

[Chaco]

I don't have a stance on Sera? Coulda fooled me. I don't see the stalling either. Direct it if you would.

[Chaco]

So you consider it stalling still although I posted not to long afterwards?

Wrong. What do you think of Monkey voting off of it?

[Chaco]

Response to the first?

[Chaco]

No, Jahudo, I was going to make a post still. But I didn't like he was hammered before I got a chance to speak up really.

And Vi, I wasn't reading through the game I was off doing something else.

[Chaco]

I'm Anti Spiral Void, however, I am town. Think of me as an auto lyncher. I have a one time shot that allows me to lynch a person instantly. If you want me to prove this, I have no qualms with killing Socio.

Also, Forbs, just so you know. I won't be available a lot during weeks. And I apologize for that, but if you could note that Id appreciate it.

Also, wow at L-1 from V/LA.

Noted

[Chaco]

Is an odd role, yes.

He's erratic and hops on everything that moves.

[Chaco]

And you're basing these connections based off of one post? Within that post you blamed me off scum coaching my partner. I do not see why, I of all people would be coaching a more experienced player. But that's WIFOM, so we'll leave that alone. I, as stated earlier, was only putting my opinion on the matter in. Which is a better opinion, because I'd rather not have a jester being annoying the whole game. You drew this as coaching, and your emphasis on Monkey and I is the buddying. Can you show me more than that one post where you are drawing your opinion from? Enlighten us if you would.

Anyways, Socio, how is he undermining your integrity? He's merely trying to get you to prove your restriction.

[Chaco]

No, that wasn't me. I can prove it, by doing today's lynch.

My guess is Seraphim due to the notes in the vote count. Could be utterly wrong though. Seems like an attempt to put me in more bad light.

But my innocence can be proven easily.

[Chaco]

It's just a theory, based off of speculation on the count.

Mine isn't necessarily a daykill, it is an auto lynch. It boosts my vote to count for 1+ the number of players alive, thus resulting in the days lynch. Therefore, not a kill, but rather an auto lynch.

I'm disappointed I had to claim so early, but my inactivity, and lack of content kinda screwed me.

[Chaco]

Well, being active early game can be extremely scummy. There are to many "if" factors there that can change that.

[Chaco]

In regards to Jahudo and Snow_Bunny. I'd rather see a wagon on Snow_Bunny. Jahudo, after reading him in iso, has slipped down the list. Snow did something I definitely did not like. After SP had been killed she stated: "I was just about to post and I find with this! I told you SP looked townie with that post restriction!".

Vote: Snow_Bunny

[Chaco]

I'd say half of the people have hangovers. Just give it time.

[Chaco]

Where to get those at? And I'm going to need some tiny glasses,

Chaco you speck on the ass of a paramecium, I have a link in the rules post that contains that rule. Get your damned glasses on

[Chaco]

Damn! Fine Forbs.

Why you infuriating hindquarters of a monkey! It's not like you have to do it forever, just for the duration of the game.
(And plus, if you really don't want to it's not like being insulted every post is a bad thing. At the very least it's mildly hilarious)

[Chaco]

I PMd Kison!

(reserved for Forbs insult)

Eh, I'll give you a waiver this time since you are in the process of becoming awesome

[Chaco]

Way to not use my reserved space.

Also, I agree with Cobalt.

I don't take any commands from grime on the base of a toilet.

[Chaco]

Put the glasses on the CC of accept, as it kind of (could) look like eyes.

I don't care where the glasses are. But I want to inspire your hot blood for this game! (I'm basically giving you a reprieve since you PM'd Kison)

[Chaco]

I love how this game has single-handedly been derailed by awesomeness.

only in TTGL mafia.

At least I'm posting in your posts rather than responding to each one

[Chaco]

Thanks Jah!

Aww, no more Forb edits though.

Well, none insulting you anyway

[Chaco]

Mod: Prods?

Shouldn't be any needed. I might check later tonight

[Chaco]

@Jah: Actually, it is an interesting point. A slight slip on monkeys regard perhaps. But as for the certainty, not so much.

[Chaco]

After reading Yos in Iso three times, and then Vi twice, I do not believe that Yos is scum at this point. However, I am not aware of his meta. Which provides no weight in Vi's eyes, however, if this argument were not Town versus Town, (I'm not saying it is, merely hypothetical), I would have to go with Vi being the scummier of the two. Vi seems more motive driven compared to Yos, as well as Vi's been giving me bad gut feels. There was a point in which I was 15% considering insta-lynching him. But that would be 3 dead in a single day phase, which would not be good.

Vi, add more weight to your case other than meta, because I have never played with Yos before it makes it increasingly difficult to go with your accusations. You need to convince us that he is scum, and screaming nothing but scum by meta will not do that.

[Chaco]

I hadn't plan to, merely a thought that went through my mind.

[Chaco]

This is not a meta argument, Choco-Taco.

Well, many parts of it were revolving around meta, Vivi. Also, I do find Yos, in early game, to be more helpful than you were. Which also, goes against part of your argument. Personal opinion though, so it's easily dismissed.

Explica? Why use latin? Well, I don't like the push on Yos. You've been hinting and joking towards him since your second or third post, whether you meant it in that way or not, you did nudge me to vote for Yos. It was a hoke, right? Well, there's truth in every lie, and a joke is just that.

[Chaco]

Well, explica is latin, and well spanish, but whatever.

1) Interesting stories?
2) So basically that was a roundabout way of saying you wanted me to admit a random vote wasn't random so that it connected me to Yos? What? But also, why Yos? Why not say...Cobalt? Snow?

[Chaco]

There was a point in which I was 15% considering insta-lynching him. But that would be 3 dead in a single day phase, which would not be good.

Are you suggesting a no lynch here?

I'm suggest that three dead with no info is a bad thing.

[Chaco]

Yos, who do you find scummy outside of the lurkers?
Cobalt, what do you think of Snowbunny's push on Monkeyman?
Jebus, how much will it take to get you to post?
Vi, who, besides Yos, do you find scummy?
Jah, what do you think of Monkey's play thus far?


I hate having to ask questions to induce activity.

[Chaco]

Unvote: if I had one; Vote: Vi

This will do for now.

[Chaco]

Btw, I'm also getting something strange from Vi. I don't know, but it isn't as usual Vi. Gotta check with the other games with Vi, and reread him to know what it is.

What on

earth

do you know about "usual Vi"?

@f-light: I'm totally voting for Snow_Bunny right now. You should be too.

Wait, I'm not for some reason.
Also, you should have saved that line for bunnyscum.

Unvote: Yosarian2
Vote: Snow_Bunny

(L-3)

I really should have. I am facepalming at not doing so now. I should insult myself in my next post for failing that

Vi, who, besides Yos, do you find scummy?

I've answered this question multiple times already.
xofelf and Snow_Bunny have the worst excuses for suspecting me that I've seen in... well, this game at least.

2) So basically that was a roundabout way of saying you wanted me to admit a random vote wasn't random so that it connected me to Yos? What? But also, why Yos? Why not say...Cobalt? Snow?

1) Yes. RVS.
2) Someone had already voted Snow_Bunny. You were deliberately voting on someone who had not been voted yet. I didn't think of Cobalt.

The vague and undefined suspicion from Cobalt, xofelf, and Chaco deserves a similarly vague and undefined flippant response.

Okay, understood, but why Yos?

[Chaco]

Well, Vi, he had posted "(shrug)", but I won't call that a post. Okay.

[Chaco]

So xofelf is now your top? Lynching order from you going: Xofelf > Snow > Jebus

[Chaco]

Have you been behind the entire game then? Because not much has been said since your last post, and ISTR, it was current.

[Chaco]

Mod: You should totally steal Tar's new 15c rule.

I don't feel like doing the research to figure out what players do what

[Chaco]

Forbs: It was mainly for Jebus, but okay.

[Chaco]

@Jahudo: yeah i can do that here quickly.
@Vi: GD doesn't require any true thought while any game does. And i refuse to post in a game information that i can't really back up or is half of what it should be. So that is why of my posts here, there isn't any content to them. I try to read up and post whatever comes to mind.. but often nothing does. So i don't post content.
If it wasn't the fact that it's my little brothers birthday and i'm going home, then you'd have a much larger post here, and i'd probably say some things to people that i'd hate myself for later. Yes, i'm still sick to the point i'm sleeping more than normal. So i apologize for that. and if it's way too much for me, then i will get a replacement so you won't all keep bitching.


Alright, your player of discussion is: Chaco(randomly chosen because i had no previous thoughts concerning him)
From reading his posts in iso, i'm curious why has there been very little discussion on the role he claimed? i have no background in the anime so it really means nothing to me what he claimed. But at the same time, it's D1, yes he may have been inactive, but claiming already? that seems kinda iffy to me. It's his 12th post and he's claimed. Something seems up.
Also, maybe it just the way he works, but his posts are extremely tiny, and very few. I understand that he has an almost constant V/LA but he could probably post a little more. and yeah i know that's rather hypocritical coming from me, so what? it needed said.
So Chaco, care to explain why you claimed so early other than it was to keep you from being lynched due to V/LA, I'm not quite buying that.

and with that, i'm off for the day and should be back later this evening.

You might want to actually read the game, because all of what you said is completely wrong.

[Chaco]

Can we get Jebus replaced now?

Not by my rules

[Chaco]

I'd be happy with Xofelf to be honest.

[Chaco]

Yos seems rather adamant about me using my ability D1.

[Chaco]

Yos seems rather adamant about me using my ability D1.

(nods) Yeah. I think you're town, but honestly, the only use your ability has is that it's testable. Otherwise, giving the ability to someone to end the day early without a majority lynch is probably much more likely to hurt the town then help it, even if that ability is in the hands of a pro-town person. (For evidence, see: every Bad Idea mafia game ever.)

The only true good use I can think of is in a sure environment such as endgame, however, I will not hold out that long. And will oblige to lynch at L-2.

[Chaco]

72 hours for Jebus~

Maybe he'll post now!

More like 120. I'll prod him. Sorry about not handling it sooner

[Chaco]

I changed my mind.
Chaco doesn't need to answer the question I just asked.

In all honesty, it could clarify quite a bit, and I believe it could help. Know or then would be the key.

[Chaco]

I'll save it for now then. It could prove quite useful later.

[Chaco]

Xofelf pretty much just refuses. I'd go there.

[Chaco]

If everyone is in agreement, shall I rid us of Jebus? Put him up to L-2, or lower, and Ill make it happen.

[Chaco]

You mean Jebus, I presume.

Anyways, I agree.

[Chaco]

Forbs:

Any word from Cobalt? His last post was 8 days ago.

And he's almost reached the 48 hour limit on responding to a prod. Meaning he'll be forcereplaced at the same time you decide on Jebus.

[Chaco]

I'm for replacing.

[Chaco]

I'm doing the same, so I feel your pain.

[Chaco]

One shot.

[Chaco]

Request Extension

[Chaco]

Really now? I knew my PM flavor would be helpful!

In next post.

[Chaco]

It talks of a greater threat, not known by me, that makes me cast sides with my known enemies the Spirals.

[Chaco]

So you're that I am a person who can automatically lynch, and recruit people to my cult?

I'll recruit you tonight, that sound good?

[Chaco]

I'm having a hard time getting a read on a few people just yet due to inactivity and whatnot. However, I think the case that was presented on Cobalt was interesting. I want to look back more to him, and I've had my eye on Vi for a while now. Due to what I've previously stated.

[Chaco]

Looking back, I find your case on him a bit weaker, Jah. I'd still like chamber to respond to it, and post in general.

[Chaco]

After reading Yos in Iso three times, and then Vi twice, I do not believe that Yos is scum at this point. However, I am not aware of his meta. Which provides no weight in Vi's eyes, however, if this argument were not Town versus Town, (I'm not saying it is, merely hypothetical), I would have to go with Vi being the scummier of the two. Vi seems more motive driven compared to Yos, as well as Vi's been giving me bad gut feels. There was a point in which I was 15% considering insta-lynching him. But that would be 3 dead in a single day phase, which would not be good.

Vi, add more weight to your case other than meta, because I have never played with Yos before it makes it increasingly difficult to go with your accusations. You need to convince us that he is scum, and screaming nothing but scum by meta will not do that.

This is not a meta argument, Choco-Taco.

Well, many parts of it were revolving around meta, Vivi. Also, I do find Yos, in early game, to be more helpful than you were. Which also, goes against part of your argument. Personal opinion though, so it's easily dismissed.

Explica? Why use latin? Well, I don't like the push on Yos. You've been hinting and joking towards him since your second or third post, whether you meant it in that way or not, you did nudge me to vote for Yos. It was a hoke, right? Well, there's truth in every lie, and a joke is just that.

That's essentially it. You're more of an "IGMEOY" type-deal.

[Chaco]

No, Vi, Im saying they've replaced out and with what's left currently not much. I was perfectly fine
with Jebus and Felf.

[Chaco]

And, Jah, the last quote you used. Your explanation is grasping hard.

[Chaco]

So saying put them at the number and Ill lynch them wasn't enough?

And, uhm, that's a retarded question. Scrutinized for lurking, since they're replacing obviously not at this time.

[Chaco]

Chaco is scummy as hell by basically refusing to comment about my attack against him except that it's wrong based on his flavor. Also his only minor suspect is obvtown Vi.

Research Paper > Responding to things I can respond to later. Ya dig?

[Chaco]

Research Paper

I have this to do (nearly done)

I'm on page 14 currently. Whoo~ <.<

[Chaco]

ld work on that travesty of a paper rather than being a dumbass posting in mafia games

[Chaco]

Crap, I meant to add "I resent that" in my part. <.< Lack of sleep ftl.

[Chaco]

Not really, that was more to appease you for the moment. I have plans to respond later. Right now, I'm flipping in and out of writing this behemoth.

[Chaco]

I think Chaco is a Cult Leader, but I don't think he's a viable lynch today.

Why do you think I'm a cult leader exactly? Also, how are you sure there's a cult? Then why, when asked, did you respond only with a 9 out of 10? I'm pretty sure being sure means 100%. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Tell me where you get Cult Leader from? My claim? If so, your speculation is meaningless and can be dismissed. I'd fakeclaim before actually claiming anti-spiral if it were indeed the threat.

[Chaco]

All Slicey has provided is speculation, and created a sense of mob mentality to follow his assumptions.

See, now he has provided you with the thought of me being a cult leader? Read through his Iso, he mentions me being cult iunno 5 times? Providing reasoning for--none of them.

[Chaco]

Do you realize how big of a bound you've taken? I can't believe you've left an ambiguous middle and people are buying it. This is honestly what happened:

There is a cult in this game.
Chaco has been scummy.
Therefore, Chaco is cult leader.

Unvote, Vote: Slicey

[Chaco]

Still, that's an ambiguous middle.

[Chaco]

It has to do with flavor. During the beginning of the second season, Anti-Spiral brainwashed Nia into helping him. Then, near the end of the show, Anti-Spiral succeeded in 'brainwashing' almost everyone for at least a brief time. Also, all of the characters in the show are spirals (except Anti-Spiral obviously.) So, it would make sense for Anti-Sprial to brainwash, or recruit, Spiral's to the Anti-Spiral side.

As for unclaimed abilities, I mean that he can recruit people into his Anti Spiral Cult.

Semi, yes. But I can argue against that easily. Total Despair. Anti-Spirals use methods to instill despair, fear, and hopelessness. Now, with that. Listen to

exactly

what my role does. It adds 1+ the number of people alive to my votes...hmm, that KIND of sounds what you're hinting at. Except, the way you're taking it is so off target. I use the total number of players+1(me), to vote and lynch.

Geez, if I'm going to be the lynch, I might as well just use my ability, huh?

[Chaco]

Chaco: OMGUS VOTE SLICEY!!!!

Monkey: VOTE SLICEY!!!

Slicey: here is the case

Monkey: oh snap, vote chaco!!!!

The voting slicey bit right after chaco does it is suspect.

I don't do OMGUSs. I do: your logic is terrible, and your assuming out the ass.

[Chaco]

I don't do OMGUSs. I do: your logic is terrible, and your assuming out the ass.

Okay, I'll do your style then.

Your logic is crappy, and you are obv scum.


Now lynch yourself, already.

Have you watched Gurren Lagann?

Have you thought through Sliceys bull shit?

Would you rather you or Slicey die?

[Chaco]

Even 'if' we were scum we'd have no way to coordinate your said "same time attacking".

Appeal to ignorance much?

[Chaco]

Then you have no clue what you're committing too in the slightest.

[Chaco]

There is no evidence against p.
Therefore, p.

[Chaco]

Oh, and chaco/monkey both attacking me at the same time is noted

Are you objecting to being attacked? Is there a reason we should not attack you if we both think you're scum?

Do not invoke me.

[Chaco]

Your appeal to ignorance still warrants a response.

[Chaco]

The support for the lack of evidence, slicey.

Also, what you're saying is a cult recruiter is actually let alone my ability. It would seem as if I "control" the votes, I just "gain" the votes. So instead of being a cult recruiter as you say, it does as I've claimed. And can be proven, maybe one or the other. But not both. Both would be insanely broken.

[Chaco]

How could that not be broken?

[Chaco]

And lack of evidence you are presenting.

[Chaco]

Might want to present that evidence then.

[Chaco]

Seraphim and unlynchable dayvig. Are you honestly even hearing yourself?

[Chaco]

Those suggestions are insane.

Based on what your providing. You are cult leader, I'm giving no evidence. But you are.

[Chaco]

Lord he has plagued this thread with talk
of cult recruiter.

Also, since yhe unanswered daykill...has no one thought an inquisitor as a
possibility?

[Chaco]

Well, in the strength of the cult it would. But it would mean less targets for town. So it does 'kinda' matter.

[Chaco]

Well, it's kind of consumed the current discussion. So might as well bring it up while it's here.

Hmm, I just thought of something.

[Chaco]

Hmm, I just thought of something.

No, I'm not.

Wasn't about you. But thanks for replying.

[Chaco]

Yeah, it was an extremely bad play on my part. I got to kill happy when it came down to it, and to make matters worse it killed Seraphim. Major ball drop. <.<

[Chaco]

Feel you are right because my ability should've cleared that.

[Chaco]

Give me time to reread. I really need to think things through more before doing.

[Chaco]

Unfortunately Im not scum. :/ Anyways, yeah, my claim was said early D1. Anti Spiral
Collective. I'm the Townie Void. Which you saw what it did.

But, Jah. I PMd my ability because I didn't know how to submit it properly. I should have said I was going to, but what I thought was far from right. Yeah, after posting I PMd Forbs, right after I did the horrible play I knew Vi was town, but he died. <.< soo, yeah that's it. Nothing to blame
but myself.

Right now Jah and Cobalt are interesting me. I'll be posting more later.

[Chaco]

I didn't kill Vi...are you reading? I killed RayFrost...

[Chaco]

Wish I was playing it, extreme fail town lately.

[Chaco]

Wish I was playing it, extreme fail town lately.

if you'd stop whining and lynch the obvscum I just handed you we'll actually get somewhere.
what's the plan for massclaim, popcorn?

So we lynch you then? You said three names. None are obv scum. Now if you would.

[Chaco]

For the umpteenth time, I am not cult. I know just by reiterating the fact it doesn't make it true, but you have no proof in the slightest or any corelation that I'd be cult. Besides a weak bit of flavor, and PoE. More so drenched in logical fallacies, than any solid support.

So why, do you, Monkey, support this idea? Do not say what Slicey has said, and no one answer for him.

[Chaco]

and Chaco if he is indeed cult.

You're giving a position with a load of back track room. Commit.

[Chaco]

How is that scummy? You are teetering back and forth like a broken seesaw. You've committed to very little this entire game, and constantly leave yourself room to escape.

[Chaco]

So, my telling you to stop being indecisive is scummy? That's a new one.

And I possess no night action. I had a one shot day ability.

[Chaco]

So that leaves Monkeyman as the cultist, if those claims are true.

Slicey, thoughts?

[Chaco]

Slicey, if you would, can you go. This will really help.

[Chaco]

Hmm, that makes sense now. My flavor states that of a greater threat, and as such I cast my abilities with the Dai Gurren.

[Chaco]

Also, the only other threat I can think of is Beastmen.

[Chaco]

Hmm, would the cultists suicide in this case?

[Chaco]

I've missed so much...I choose terrible days to be busy. Catching up instantly.

[Chaco]

I did terrible. True facts.

Good job scum.

[Chaco]

Jah, you didn't kill it completely, my terrible ass play murdered chances.

[Chaco]

Hrm. Remilia Scarlet.