Posts 1-24
Miller claim. I've never seen anyone fake claim miller. So hard for me to believe it's not true.
25-49
In post 30, Passenger wrote:Is this TMI? furtive says that he is the miller, as opposed to just a miller. This suggests that he knows there is no miller in the game, thus suggesting that killer is a fakeclaim he was given by the mod.
This is a stretch. Or a joke? Either way not taking it for anything.
In post 33, Bell wrote:I don’t really furtive would come up with a fake claim the instant the game started.
Either they were handed it by the mod, there’s something in their role pm that explicitly encourages them to claim miller as scum
Or they’re just telling the truth.
Maybe their flavor inspired them, but not sure how likely that is.
This actually made me think just how wild a fake claim this would be, because another miller would render them both 100x more suspicious
Bloodthirsty bird
50-74
Self aware? Or backsliding?
In post 59, Passenger wrote:1. The fact that DeasVail posted about his inability to solve. This shows that DeasVail is scum concerned whether people believe he is solving or not. Statistically this has proven to be a weak but >rand tell.
I'd be interested to see the data on this because it seems mad weak.
In post 61, Frogsterking wrote:This is shaping out to be a game where my approach works and I go 2/3 in my early reads. I'll let you guys fight it out a little bit more before I post my PoE. Unless Bombay rolled scum and Luke is taking the reigns for marci (which I think isn't the case though my certainty is
low
) my reads indicate no scum has written more than 4 posts.
This is the first and only time I'll say Froggo's ego makes them hard to read.
75-99
This is a punchy response and I'm not sure how to feel about it
In post 76, Frogsterking wrote:IMO I don't think you are a dull player so if you haven't seen anything suspicious yet then I think you should reread and be more open to being skeptical and critical of others. I think the idea of whether or not most posts are NAI is tricky. In this particular game I believe that a lot more AI content than usual has been created.
I know Lost was not a good baseline for which to Guage someone's town game but like yooooo you are mad different than you were in Lost.
100-124
And this shows you're aware of buttering up as a scum strategy. Forming a scumread here.
In post 121, DeasVail wrote:Also I'm feeling pretty good about furtiveglance, flavia and frogster
Frog why?
125-149
In post 135, Passenger wrote:By this point, Frogster has conceded he engaged in scummy behavior, and all of his reasons for Kokabiel being scum are invalid because of that.
Saying "I do this anti town thing always" -- while shitty -- is not a scum claim nor will I take it as one. This is the second stretchy vote you've made before page 10.
In post 139, The Bombay wrote: In post 50, Bell wrote: In post 49, DeasVail wrote:I'm trying to make posts made so far AI in my head, but I'm not really coming up with much.
Must be scum out of ideas.
Also, saw 2 different people taking this seriously.
I am pretty sure that this was a sarcastic/ joke post from Bell. Which made passenger latching onto it as an excuse to vote DeasV pretty bad.
Luke's such a hard read because he's so goddamn right all the time
150-174
In post 155, Frogsterking wrote:I'll admit Koko was a part of my team solve I mentioned earlier, but now with more information (from their wagon piling on) I feel their reaction to pressure is more indicative of a Resident who is wrongly accused.
This seems accurate
In post 155, Frogsterking wrote:I'll wait a little bit longer before I get into my ideas about hunting for the Dictator.
Where does this dictator terminology come from?
In post 163, The Bombay wrote:I think that Flavia's recent pop in (
160 and
162) is incredibly scummy.
Like, the fact that when she came back to the thread, the thing she had to comment on was furtive's miller claim and bell's response from page 1, and then flashed forward to the current page to defend against a scum read pointed her way, and then left the thread with no comment on anything else.
It makes it feel like she wanted to make a comment on *something* but also did not want to touch any of the current discussions with a 10-foot pole.
~Luke
Ehh 162 reminds me of that thing that happens in IRL mafia a lot where people are sometimes reduced to saying "maybe I am, maybe I'm not, what proof do you have?" And I see that from both alignments.
165 - 167 do not leave me with a good Bell impression
LOL
I disagree and find that brave, respectively
175-199
(Did the thing where I zoned out a little reading this page)
In post 189, Frogsterking wrote:I think Flavia's posts are cringey and unnatural in a way that makes them likely (with moderate certainty) to be new or a player returning to the game after a long hiatus
I feel this, though you conclude scum and I'm not as convinced. I believe you honestly think this though, the thought process is transparent. You two definitely aren't partners.
In post 197, Frogsterking wrote:So my current solve for group scum is Flavia/andres and one more player who both has less than eleven posts and isn't excluded in the list above. The players who meet both of these criteria are:
Herta
Furtive
Penguin
Starpower
I should be on this list
In post 199, Bell wrote:*tilts head* tbh I’m surprised more people aren’t voting me, I say completely oblivious that I haven’t played with half the game before. Therefore they don’t know that my activity is kind of a blaring red sign that I’m scum here.
It is mad convenient that you say this as soon as the meta-reader-in-chief Nancy starts posting
200-224
In post 209, The Bombay wrote:Frog, if you are getting the feeling that Flavia is scummy, while also getting the feeling that she feels isolated. Why is your conclusion "she is the most active groupcum" and not "she seems like 3p"?
Luke i think Froggo's just 3p here
Flavia's
213 (not quoting because holy shit) is maybe more effort than *I* would put into a defense as town, but I don't hate it. Also that half as cocky bet thing at the end is against the rules but I thought it was funny and can't help but see Flavia as town doing it.
In post 220, Flavia wrote:I like to read on my phone while drinking my coffee (heh, no work) but I can't exactly quote stuff and do things on it. So, I just read. Type later.
I mean, it could be a whole conspiracy where I ignored him or I could be telling the truth. Didn't think it was relevant cuz that's no way anyone could prove it anyway.
Given that I did answer some time later, why did you think it's important?
This is that same shit I talked about earlier. Newb tell, not scum tell.
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In post 233, Frogsterking wrote:I currently expect Kookaburra to flip Town and that they are a counterwagon to save Flavia
Of the two I'd be more willing to bet on Kookoo, sorry
250-274
This makes that last post of kookoo's make more sense, I thought they were threatening to claim.
Where do birds get their confidence?
275-299
There's no way you didn't hit this post limit on purpose.
(Mastina pokes in and arrives at some weird conclusions but I don't vibe with their thought process so I'm gonna hope I can just read the slot through Nancy)
300-324
Not quoting the walls here but: Frog reads really genuine here and I don't think he's groupscum unless I'm wrong on Flavia and/or/ his partners just aren't a presence.
Mastina's argument about Frog seeming like scum distancing away from Flavia also doesn't hit because I don't agree on Flavia
I don't love the passivity from Herta voting-wise in this game so far but he's VLA as of this post so I'll give it time
In post 320, N.Y. M wrote:if enough time passes and you don’t realize we’re town when you read me correctly in LOST, Elected Decisions and eventually in Masque, I may possibly lose confidence in that.
This reads like a threat
In post 324, Herta wrote:Actually I was thinking about going back to Flavia. It occurred to me that I may have been blindly following Frogster on Passenger. On someone else too I don't recall right now. I didn't have any agency there. But your moving off of Flavia stuck me.
Yeah this just reads disengaged
325-349
Not a lot of note here. Furt seems town and Roden is towning it up.
350-374
In post 358, Passenger wrote: In post 229, Kokabiel wrote:I'm not answering any questions from useless baggage anymore so Tell me if you want a claim
Peace out till i see something scummy or a question from someone who actually is doing stuff.
This strongly reads as scum trying to AtE rather than genuinely annoyed town. Kokabiel asks if anyone wants her to claim, but the rest of her recent posts don’t give off a vibe of annoyance or anger.
This.. . Isn't wrong. Hmm.
WHO?
I'm gonna have to take your word for this, Dea has been underwhelming
375-399
In post 377, Kokabiel wrote:What have you done this game for it to warrant a townread on you? Nothing.
What are the chances that this is some alt that knows Mastina but NOT Nancy? This forum is a pretty small world? This comment combined with what they expect of Mastina makes me wonder if they're trying to bait Nancy here
(Oh God I'm losing steam on this catchup) A lot of cool, pertinent questions from people I think are probably town (Nancy, Luke, Roden, furt)
400- 424
Lol
Towntell, good faith, etc
I plan to after a lil bit of discussion
I rescind that townread
425-449
RODEN YOU CAN'T BE OUT HERE KILLING MFERS LIKE THIS
Bro I have literally never townread Bell and maybe I never will
450-474
In post 461, Roden wrote:Guess now's the best time to explain that I actually have another reason to think Koka is scum, it should put some things in perspective. One moment please.
Is this the thing?
In post 469, Kokabiel wrote:Alright let me dumb it down for you.
After flipping an easy miselim, you will be coming back to me because i'm another easy miselim you won't get blamed for. That's 2 free flips;
So why would i, in my right mind, not attack you despite most of your posts being scummy?
Just like, super off base. Wow.
In post 470, furtiveglance wrote:Frog, where is the info that Dictator is the 3p? All I see is that there is a government operative who is antisocial.
I searched the thread for it earlier and Frogster's the only one who's said it.
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In post 499, furtiveglance wrote:VOTE: Passenger
Still think the Passenger wagon is far purer if we're doing Passenger/Kokabiel.
After this whirlwind of a page this is where you land? Furtive is not scum.
500-524
Bell's whole problem at the top of this page is that ko can't have done it this way because he can think of more efficient ways to go about it? Town isn't perfect.
Is THIS the thing?
In post 523, Kokabiel wrote:Penguin already scumread me even if he didn't state it. He broke character with his comments right after the announcement which is a pretty big tell. And now he is lurking
Haha got you Penguin NOW you're lurking
525-549
(Fuck me for waiting this long to catch up holy shit)
In post 531, Roden wrote:First thing everyone should know: my role isn't called Advocate or Moonlight Dancer. My ability is called Advocate, but my role is actually called
Proponent
. Koka has already botched their role claim as far as flavor goes. I'm fairly certain Koka isn't claiming their real role name because it would sound scummy and didn't think anyone else was also an Advocate. Though Koka did say the correct trigger phrase "Represent Residents", as that was mine as well.
Besides that, the secondary effect from my ability let's me send a message to my target mod-confirming me as town. I'd like for this player to announce this, please.
Knowing what I think I know now we boutta have a 1v1 on our hands
The 1 town 1 scum theory about advocates is perhaps more pleasing to those of us who desire balance, but it's not based on any fact. I won a scum game like a year ago because scum just had two doctors.
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In post 551, The Bombay wrote:Ngl, if no one confirms roden's message, my reaction will be to assume that his target was scum. Not that Roden was scum. Even if his role did not confirm him, this entire play is dripping in towniness.
But also, doubt that happens, because that outs his target as scum, because he can just... tell us who he targeted.
So I am just skipping the waiting and living my life as though who ever his target is has already confirmed him.
These thoughts are my thoughts. How dare you steal my thoughts.
575-599
This shit makes you so hard to read because like optimal play here if you're scum is to attack Roden hard. Unless you're trying to 'aw shucks' your way out of it but like jeez. Enigmatic.
In post 414, RH wrote:In post 385, N.Y. M wrote:@mod what does this mean exactly?Advocate is a flavoured term for Moonlight Dancer.In post 521, RH wrote:In post 459, Frogsterking wrote:@mod is Kookaburra confirmed not to be the Dictator because of your announcement that they're an Advocate?Their alignment is not confirmed by my announcement. Nothing is confirmed by them being an Advocate except that they have Advocate in their role or are one.In post 587, Frogsterking wrote: