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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:10 am

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In post 49, DeasVail wrote:I'm trying to make posts made so far AI in my head, but I'm not really coming up with much.
Must be scum out of ideas.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:14 am

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Day 1 Count I

JohnnyFarrar (2) - ,
PenguinPower (1) -
Bell (1) -
DeasVail (1) -
The Bombay (1) -
N.Y. M (1) -
Star Power (1) -

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- Passenger, N.Y. M, DeasVail, furtiveglance, Kokabiel, Andresvmb

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  • My mod ISO is here.
  • With 14 remaining, it takes 8 to form a majority.
The
Day
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:14 am

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oh hey

already on the biggest wagon

let's go! choo choo
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:38 am

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In post 33, Bell wrote:I don’t really furtive would come up with a fake claim the instant the game started.
Either they were handed it by the mod, there’s something in their role pm that explicitly encourages them to claim miller as scum
Or they’re just telling the truth.

Maybe their flavor inspired them, but not sure how likely that is.
Eh… I was leaning towards the second option but I’m feel like I am making a pretty big reach. Do we know if scum have fakeclaims?
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:44 am

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In post 49, DeasVail wrote:I'm trying to make posts made so far AI in my head, but I'm not really coming up with much.
rcan you please explain what you mean by “make posts AI in your head?”
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:57 am

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In post 50, Bell wrote:
In post 49, DeasVail wrote:I'm trying to make posts made so far AI in my head, but I'm not really coming up with much.
Must be scum out of ideas.
This is also what I thought. It seems like DeasVail is playing from the point of view of someone who is looking over posts with a checklist of tells to appear useful, rather than engaging in actual solving.

VOTE: DeasVail
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:48 am

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I haven't detected any sus behaviour yet. I'll vote when I do
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:58 am

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In post 55, Passenger wrote:
In post 50, Bell wrote:
In post 49, DeasVail wrote:I'm trying to make posts made so far AI in my head, but I'm not really coming up with much.
Must be scum out of ideas.
This is also what I thought. It seems like DeasVail is playing from the point of view of someone who is looking over posts with a checklist of tells to appear useful, rather than engaging in actual solving.

VOTE: DeasVail
Maybe but why them specifically over hmm...basically everyone else, excluding Bombay and maybe Bell. Rest of us weren't exactly overtly solving stuff.

PS: I'm taking frogsterking's readings on page 1 as a joke, not them being serious
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:37 pm

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In post 52, PenguinPower wrote:oh hey

already on the biggest wagon

let's go! choo choo
Yeah get his ass
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:04 pm

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In post 57, Flavia wrote:
In post 55, Passenger wrote:
In post 50, Bell wrote:
In post 49, DeasVail wrote:I'm trying to make posts made so far AI in my head, but I'm not really coming up with much.
Must be scum out of ideas.
This is also what I thought. It seems like DeasVail is playing from the point of view of someone who is looking over posts with a checklist of tells to appear useful, rather than engaging in actual solving.

VOTE: DeasVail
Maybe but why them specifically over hmm...basically everyone else, excluding Bombay and maybe Bell. Rest of us weren't exactly overtly solving stuff.

PS: I'm taking frogsterking's readings on page 1 as a joke, not them being serious
The difference between DeasVail and the people who have been posting but not DeasVail is two things.

1. The fact that DeasVail posted about his inability to solve. This shows that DeasVail is scum concerned whether people believe he is solving or not. Statistically this has proven to be a weak but >rand tell.

2. The content of his post. He says that he’s trying to make posts AI in his head, but can’t. Scum when out of ideas tries to do exactly that: look at posts and see if they follow a list of common tells, rather than organically notice a post and realize that it follows a tell, which town does. I suppose the gist of what I’m saying is that DeasVail is scum trying to find reads by creating thought processes, meanwhile town finds reads not by creating thought processes but by simply having those thought processes.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:08 pm

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Tell me if @above doesn’t make sense, I don’t think I phrased it very well.

As for Frogsterking, he is the type of player who scumhunts by psychoanalyzing the reactions to his posts, and he creates his posts with that in mind. As such, take nearly everything he says in the early game with a grain of salt.
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:07 pm

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This is shaping out to be a game where my approach works and I go 2/3 in my early reads. I'll let you guys fight it out a little bit more before I post my PoE. Unless Bombay rolled scum and Luke is taking the reigns for marci (which I think isn't the case though my certainty is
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:13 pm

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In post 61, Frogsterking wrote:This is shaping out to be a game where my approach works and I go 2/3 in my early reads.
Prioritizing group scum here (I think I'll have the majority of group scum at the bottom of my PoE.) I'm not really looking for Dictator/Governor yet though I have some thoughts on how to look for third party which I'll post later.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:14 pm

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In post 58, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
In post 52, PenguinPower wrote:oh hey

already on the biggest wagon

let's go! choo choo
Yeah get his ass
I expect to see some commitment behind that enthusiasm!
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:25 pm

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In post 63, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 58, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
In post 52, PenguinPower wrote:oh hey

already on the biggest wagon

let's go! choo choo
Yeah get his ass
I expect to see some commitment behind that enthusiasm!
Not SvS.

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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:33 pm

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I have reviewed the thread and have a full team solve virtue of you guys being really easy reads.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:36 pm

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Lol these last few games are just excuses for me and pengy to flirt
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:41 pm

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In post 60, Passenger wrote:As such, take nearly everything he says in the early game with a grain of salt.
Or you could listen and hit scum early more often but that would require both thinking and listening at the same time.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:42 pm

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In post 66, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Lol these last few games are just excuses for me and pengy to flirt
I agree, the chemistry between you two is great for spewing you both as Town.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:44 pm

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In post 67, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 60, Passenger wrote:As such, take nearly everything he says in the early game with a grain of salt.
Or you could listen and hit scum early more often but that would require both thinking and listening at the same time.
Thinking and reading* if you have poor control over your phonological loop.
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:53 pm

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In post 65, Frogsterking wrote:I have reviewed the thread and have a full team solve virtue of you guys being really easy reads.
In case anyone's confused this isn't a reaction test, I do have a full team solve I expect to be roughly 2/3 precise. I'm clarifying it's not a reaction test specifically because I know that no one interprets me to be joking because I'm sharp enough to realize a player who claims to think I'm joking is unlikely to be the telling the truth.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:04 pm

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In post 61, Frogsterking wrote:This is shaping out to be a game where my approach works and I go 2/3 in my early reads. I'll let you guys fight it out a little bit more before I post my PoE. Unless Bombay rolled scum and Luke is taking the reigns for marci (which I think isn't the case though my certainty is
low
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I don’t follow the logic behind this. Marci hasn’t posted yet, and you’re saying that the only way Bombay is scum is if Luke is taking the reins for marci. But isn’t that exactly what Luke has been doing? I’m confused.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:05 pm

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In post 71, Passenger wrote:
In post 61, Frogsterking wrote:This is shaping out to be a game where my approach works and I go 2/3 in my early reads. I'll let you guys fight it out a little bit more before I post my PoE. Unless Bombay rolled scum and Luke is taking the reigns for marci (which I think isn't the case though my certainty is
low
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I don’t follow the logic behind this. Marci hasn’t posted yet, and you’re saying that the only way Bombay is scum is if Luke is taking the reins for marci. But isn’t that exactly what Luke has been doing? I’m confused.
I think Luke's posts are more likely to come from Town.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:10 pm

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VOTE: kokabiel

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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:11 pm

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In post 54, Passenger wrote:
In post 49, DeasVail wrote:I'm trying to make posts made so far AI in my head, but I'm not really coming up with much.
rcan you please explain what you mean by “make posts AI in your head?”
I tend to think that most posts are probably NAI, at the end of the day. But particularly in the early game I think it’s helpful to think about whether particular posts are more likely from town, and to push on anything that might be from scum. For the posts made thus far, I had some thoughts along the lines of “this could be from town”, but then also counter-arguments in my head about why what I thought was town, wasn’t necessarily.

For example, I agree that Star Power’s post isn’t particularly indicative of scum, but I also can’t townread that post. In the end it’s just a colourful way of saying “let’s kill scum!”

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