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[Frogsterking]

Town (most to least): The Bombay, Frogsterking, Passenger, DeasVail, JohnnyFarrar, Herta, Flavia, PenguinPower

Why does Passenger scum read me, especially over Kookaburra or Flavia? I reread their ISO and their trajectory only makes sense if they know Flavia and Kookaburra are Town and they're hoping to keep me in the PoE.

[Frogsterking]

OK, did post 74 change your read?

What a useless fucking question.

Ah, psychoanalysis...not my favorite but what can you do?

What makes you assume Passenger is telling the truth?

No, this is a useless question. What possible reason would I have to lie about that?

TMI Flavia is Town IMO

[Frogsterking]

Oh fuck holy post limit

Spoiler:

Breaking down this interaction:

Post 1

Kokabiel says Marci’s vote on her is scummy.
Kokabiel says Marci asking Frogster to join the wagon is towny for Frogster.
Kokabiel says DeasVail inviting himself onto the wagon is scummy for DeasVail.

Post 2

Frogster asks why DeasVail is scummier than him, because they did the same thing.
Frogster says that Kokabiel is trying to start a TvT fight between DeasVail and Johnny

Post 3

Kokabiel asks Frogster why he claims that she faked her evaluation.
Kokabiel asks Frogster why he never asked Marci why she faked her read on her.

Post 4

Frogster asks Kokabiel why he would ask Marci why she voted Kokabiel.
Frogster asks Kokabiel why DeasVail inviting himself on the wagon is scummy.
Frogster asks Kokabiel why she disagrees with Johnny’s case on DeasVail.
Frogster asks Kokabiel why she is asking him questions.

My Analysis:

Kokabiel scumreads Marci because Marci’s vote on her was a naked vote with no explanation. This doesn’t make sense, because Marci’s vote was clearly RVS. From this incorrect premise Kokabiel comes to the logical conclusion that Frogster is town and DeasVail is scum. Her assumption that Marci is scum for her naked vote is an NAI overreaction.

Frogster does not understand both Kokabiel’s premise and her logic, and thinks she must be trying to start a fight between DeasVail and Johnny. This point is invalid because her premise is wrong but NAI and her logic is correct. Frogster is scummy for this post because he assumes that because he doesn’t understand something, it must be scummy. If he was trying to engage with her in good faith he would have waited for her answer.

Kokabiel correctly points out Frogster’s leap of “I don’t understand” to “this is scum.” Frogster responds by asking Kokabiel questions she has already answered and then he asks her what she intends to achieve by asking him questions. Frogster also says that he will always scumread things he doesn’t understand.

By this point, Frogster has conceded he engaged in scummy behavior, and all of his reasons for Kokabiel being scum are invalid because of that.
VOTE: Frogster

TMI Kookaburra is Town.

Sort of why I actually think unfortunately, frogsterking is more likely town here.

Vote Passenger then if you are also Town. Passenger was white knighting you and Kookaburra.

[Frogsterking]

Dease I'll sheep your read on Flavia. Vote Passenger please.

[Frogsterking]

The fact that DeasVail posted about his inability to solve. This shows that DeasVail is scum concerned whether people believe he is solving or not. Statistically this has proven to be a weak but >rand tell.

This is another scum tell I missed. Passeger wants to be percieved as reasonable.

[Frogsterking]

Holy shit Passenger's ISO is terrible. A real emperor-has-no-clothes situation.

[RH]

Kokabiel is an

Advocate

!

[Frogsterking]

That's what's up. Kookaburra vote Passenger.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: passenger

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: kokabiel

[Frogsterking]

Kokabiel is an

Advocate

!

That's what's up. Kookaburra vote Passenger.

I'm a fucking Advocate too: for murdering Delegate Passenger in the streets and making an example out of him to the other Delegates.

[furtiveglance]

Kokabiel is an

Advocate

!

wot dis

[PenguinPower]

it be scum

[Herta]

What triggered that disclosure?

VOTE: Kokabiel

[Frogsterking]

What triggered that disclosure?

VOTE: Kokabiel

Nope. Wrong vote. Herta if you're Town switch to Passenger.

[Herta]

mod vla until Monday

[Frogsterking]

mod vla until Monday

Oh dear lord it's another one of these Towns.

[Herta]

What triggered that disclosure?

VOTE: Kokabiel

Nope. Wrong vote. Herta if you're Town switch to Passenger.

VOTE: passenger

I'm confused. I get shut Passenger scum maybe but I don't understand the Advocate thing.

[furtiveglance]

Kokabiel can you explain what an Advocate is?

[Herta]

What triggered that disclosure?

VOTE: Kokabiel

Nope. Wrong vote. Herta if you're Town switch to Passenger.

VOTE: passenger

I'm confused. I get why Passenger scum maybe but I don't understand the Advocate thing.

[Frogsterking]

What triggered that disclosure?

VOTE: Kokabiel

Nope. Wrong vote. Herta if you're Town switch to Passenger.

VOTE: passenger

I'm confused. I get shut Passenger scum maybe but I don't understand the Advocate thing.

Thank God I thought you were going to vote Kookaburra and peace out for three days lol.

I don't get it either tbh I'm just rolling with it. It could always be a Town Crier type role that has nothing to do with Kookaburra. We'll have to see what Kookaburra says. My first thought was that it was an activated IC type role but Kookaburra doesn't seem to be around.

I think Kookaburra vs Flavia is Town vs Town wagons because of Passenger's presence on a vanity wagon and the fact he white knighted them both. If I'm wrong about any of those three alignments I'll eat my socks.

[PenguinPower]

I'll eat my socks.

like - with any seasoning or sauce, or just plain socks?

[The Bombay]

Luke head VLA until Monday

[Passenger]

OK, did post 74 change your read?

What a useless fucking question.

Ah, psychoanalysis...not my favorite but what can you do?

What makes you assume Passenger is telling the truth?

No, this is a useless question. What possible reason would I have to lie about that?

TMI Flavia is Town IMO

In what universe is this TMI? I called out your BS and now you’re just repeating that I’m scum without a leg to stand on.

[Passenger]

Oh fuck holy post limit

Spoiler:

Breaking down this interaction:

Post 1

Kokabiel says Marci’s vote on her is scummy.
Kokabiel says Marci asking Frogster to join the wagon is towny for Frogster.
Kokabiel says DeasVail inviting himself onto the wagon is scummy for DeasVail.

Post 2

Frogster asks why DeasVail is scummier than him, because they did the same thing.
Frogster says that Kokabiel is trying to start a TvT fight between DeasVail and Johnny

Post 3

Kokabiel asks Frogster why he claims that she faked her evaluation.
Kokabiel asks Frogster why he never asked Marci why she faked her read on her.

Post 4

Frogster asks Kokabiel why he would ask Marci why she voted Kokabiel.
Frogster asks Kokabiel why DeasVail inviting himself on the wagon is scummy.
Frogster asks Kokabiel why she disagrees with Johnny’s case on DeasVail.
Frogster asks Kokabiel why she is asking him questions.

My Analysis:

Kokabiel scumreads Marci because Marci’s vote on her was a naked vote with no explanation. This doesn’t make sense, because Marci’s vote was clearly RVS. From this incorrect premise Kokabiel comes to the logical conclusion that Frogster is town and DeasVail is scum. Her assumption that Marci is scum for her naked vote is an NAI overreaction.

Frogster does not understand both Kokabiel’s premise and her logic, and thinks she must be trying to start a fight between DeasVail and Johnny. This point is invalid because her premise is wrong but NAI and her logic is correct. Frogster is scummy for this post because he assumes that because he doesn’t understand something, it must be scummy. If he was trying to engage with her in good faith he would have waited for her answer.

Kokabiel correctly points out Frogster’s leap of “I don’t understand” to “this is scum.” Frogster responds by asking Kokabiel questions she has already answered and then he asks her what she intends to achieve by asking him questions. Frogster also says that he will always scumread things he doesn’t understand.

By this point, Frogster has conceded he engaged in scummy behavior, and all of his reasons for Kokabiel being scum are invalid because of that.
VOTE: Frogster

TMI Kookaburra is Town.

Sort of why I actually think unfortunately, frogsterking is more likely town here.

Vote Passenger then if you are also Town. Passenger was white knighting you and Kookaburra.

You say here that I was white-knighting Kokabiel and Flavia… but you also said earlier

that those exact posts

were me chainsawing my partners. Pick one.