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I can't stand it when people hack proper spelling:
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Fine, in that case I'll vote you for crap spellingandbeing 3rd on the player list.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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And let's not forget about the dangers of dogs. curiouskarmadog
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I clearly said why I chose curiouskarmadog. I'll quote the post below for your convenience. Since d3sisted is dead, I considered it useful to switch my vote and not let it sit on a dead body - especially since we're on a time table. If we lynch after the serial killer kills, he gets another kill; at least that is how I understood the rule.Mgm wrote:And let's not forget about the dangers of dogs. curiouskarmadog
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How did you come to that conclusion?Kinetic wrote:I'm of the opinion that the SK has posted already.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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I mentioned him as a possible suspect and since the first suspect I mentioned died, I had an unused vote lying around. I might as well place it somewhere and since my hunch on d3sisted was correct, I might as well continue to trust my hunches for the time being.Mirth wrote:MGM you mentioned the dangers of dogs before the kill was announced. So do you have any after kill explanation for your vote?
Even with all the mafia killed, the SK can still pull off a win. Dead mafia doesn't necessarily equate to a town win.The SK only wins if he is the last person standing and neither team achieves their win condition. So if the SK kills a Mafia, there is only 3 left. If he keeps killing them, or if the town starts lynching them, the game could end quickly in a town victory and an SK loss.
I think it's in the SK's best interest to lynch mafia to avoid being the victim of some scum-guided lynch. It's in the mafia's best interest to get us to vote the SK. Because every week the SK is alive, they run the risk of being killed and getting one step further away from winning - as d3sisted's dead so nicely demonstrates.
Also, by killing townies, the SK brings the mafia closer to a win (with the whole outnumbering rule. In short: they should kill each other off and only worry about the townies at the last possible minute.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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I have another hunch. I think the SK didn't post and tries to look like they were away when the choice was made. I've already got my eyes on the late players.Kinetic wrote:
Again, more of just a hunch. Pooky isn't able to check the thread very much which makes me believe that the SK sent in his kill a little while ago but he just got it. Just a hunch, I admit, but a good one I think.Mgm wrote:
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It should be pretty clear that my vote was random/arbitrary too. I didn't say the vote was based on a hunch. My hunch was about whether the SK posted.Mirth wrote:Mgm wrote:
I mentioned him as a possible suspect and since the first suspect I mentioned died, I had an unused vote lying around. I might as well place it somewhere and since my hunch on d3sisted was correct, I might as well continue to trust my hunches for the time being.Mirth wrote:MGM you mentioned the dangers of dogs before the kill was announced. So do you have any after kill explanation for your vote?Unvote: Kinetic
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We are on page two. None of us have said very much yet, and all the votes up to this point have been random. We are all possible suspects. Why does he merit special attention here? He had a whole two posts when you first mentioned him as a "possible suspect." Your vote on d3sisted seemed to be a joking random vote which just happened to get lucky, as he hadn't posted anything when you voted for him. Then he voted for you. I'm weary of "hunches" that are formed without anything to back them up.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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Why did you feel the need to ask that question?Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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This one: "Why did you pick Raffles over HazzelQ?"which one?Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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So what's your method for picking someone to pressure?Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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So did Raffles. He posted extensively in Carthage mafia on Saturday. He could've posted here.I have noted that HazzelQ has been posting in other threads, not this one yet…so again a pressure vote to get you talking.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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But it is the only answer he's gonna give you. Or did you expect him to admit to being a scumbag?Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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Stewie correctly identified it as a dead end question. I don't see the problem.
There's no problem with answering someone else's questions when there's only one likely answer they'd give (regardless of what their intentions are).
Another example, if I ask you to claim, it would be perfectly all right for someone else to point out you'd claim townie. There's no other claim, unless the SK can convince us he wants to help kill the mafia, but I for one would lynch him on the spot if it doesn't make us lose instantly.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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Several answers? Name one then.curiouskarmadog wrote:
You are wrong, there are several answers he could have given...(as I have stated before)..I wanted to see what he had to say...but Stewie obligated to answer it for him.Mgm wrote:Stewie correctly identified it as a dead end question. I don't see the problem.
There's no problem with answering someone else's questions when there's only one likely answer they'd give (regardless of what their intentions are).
Another example, if I ask you to claim, it would be perfectly all right for someone else to point out you'd claim townie. There's no other claim, unless the SK can convince us he wants to help kill the mafia, but I for one would lynch him on the spot if it doesn't make us lose instantly.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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I missed post 46 because it was a near simulpost. Yes, a grudge from a previous game would be a valid reason.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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We should start focussing. If we don't have a lynch target by the deadline, we're losing the town headstart the dead scum got us.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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In that case we should do more talking so we can analyze each other's posts.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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Could you also help us beat the deadline and put in a vote?Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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I think the mafia is the bigger threat. They win sooner.
If we get rid of the mafia, we have more time to find the serial killer, so I think we should focus on finding mafia, but really - finding any scum is a step forward.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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I was assuming HazzelQ was jeep, but now it appears they share the account - or jeep did some testing to figure out why it wasn't working. I'm trying to get people to agree so we can have a lynch before the deadline hits. It's not working very well.Mirth wrote:What do you mean by that MGM?Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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Unvote:curiouskarmadogShow"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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Of course there is a reason. But I'm quite happy to hold it under my hat right now.HazzelQ wrote:... no reason?Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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I find that hard to believe. It's quite unlikely the mod mistyped your name when he sent out roles. When did you receive your role PM?Raffles wrote:But then again, I recieved mine late as well so I'm inclined to believe it...Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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Yes, it's metagaming, but not necessarilyM4yhem wrote:Is it metagaming to point out that HazzelQ is almost certainly not the SK?
Unless you think Jeep was collaberating with her, she has an alibi; she can't have sent the pm, since she didn't even know she was in the game. She could still be mafia, of course.badmetagaming.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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If I explain myself I help the mafia/SK more than the town.this seems very anti-town to me. Seems like he has information that he does not want to share with the town. Shouldn’t you provide the information to help the town?
That's easy, apart from perhaps yourself, I made the most posts in the game, it's easy to see something scummy in that.At any rate, I think he has had the scummiest plays and posts thus far.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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You'd better read my post again, because that's not what I said. I said:Mirth wrote:Second, MGM, quantity of posts does not necessarily mean that theres more of a chance to act scummy. Somebody could act very very very scummy with just one or two posts (like an early attempt at a hammer or the like). I don't see how this is a point in your favor.
More posts mean someone has more material to work with and naturally will see more things they consider scummy. That said, more posts DOES lead to more chances to act scummy which is why lurkers are so often pushed to contribute; if they don't say anything there's no chance of them slipping up. How that works in my favor? It probably doesn't, but it wasn't supposed to. It was supposed to make CKD think.Mgm wrote:
That's easy, apart from perhaps yourself, I made the most posts in the game, it's easy to see something scummy in that.At any rate, I think he has had the scummiest plays and posts thus far.
Suppose for a moment that I wasn't in the game. Would you have enough evidence to vote someone non-randomly by now? If not, that's clearly due to the lack of posts.
P.S. Yes Raffles, I can explain and I will in my next post.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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In CKD's post, I feel point 3 is the only valid one.
1) As you say, a weak argument. When was the last time you saw this distancing tactic (random vote each other day one) work? If it does anything it draws attention rather than create distance. For HazzelQ who considered me the SK: the first thing people do after someone dies is check who they voted and who voted them. How could that possibly work as a cover up if I'm top of both lists?
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A random hunch, which you obviously think can't exist.he “random” voted someone who happened to be mafia on a hunch..what sort of hunch can someone get 3 posts into the game when his hunchie has not even posted yet?
It's only crap logic if you try to make out it's more than luck.So now he has a hunch about me? That is crap logic.
I only remember saying that since my first vote was right, I might as well go with my instinct for the next; the only one I'm trying to convince is myself. Trying to convince people I'm trying to convince them when I'm not is scummier.I now think that he got lucky when the SK killed d3sisted with MGM’s vote on him. Now he is trying to convince us that his hunches find scum...that I think is scummy.
3) Yes, I contradicted myself. That was due to the fact I didn't reread on what I said earlier before I posted. It proves I have the memory of a dodo.
4)CKD said that his reason to vote HQ was "I have noted that HazzelQ has been posting in other threads, not this one yet…so again a pressure vote to get you talking." I certainly did imply something there; you didn't vote Raffles for some reason even though the same rule applied to him. He too posted in another thread and not here. The fact he was on holiday to the 15th means HazzelQ was around more often and is more guilty of it, but that shouldn't give Raffles a free pass.
5) I'm antsy all right! We're on a deadline and if nothing happens and the SK doesn't stay on target in killing mafia, we're toast after a mere 4 death townies. Don't you think a townie would get restless with an impending deadline?
6) Already explained in post 101.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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In post 66 Mirth shows around half the people posted before and half the people posted after the kill. If you believe it took Pooky time to process the kill, it does nothing to improve the odds of the killer posting. Those odds remained the same.Kinetic wrote:
Again, more of just a hunch. Pooky isn't able to check the thread very much which makes me believe that the SK sent in his kill a little while ago but he just got it. Just a hunch, I admit, but a good one I think.Mgm wrote:
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You can consider it a claim if you want - it's true. It was actually meant to show that restlessness wasn't as scummy as CKD implied.
I was hoping pushing forward would get us past the random voting stage quickly and get at least some info to base a lynch on. The quicker that happens the better. The longer we wait, the longer the SK can keep killing and the longer the mafia can guide us into faulty lynches. It's better to stop that sooner than later.
Not having a lynch actually starts to sound like a good option. We don't have enough information to make well thought out decision despite my efforts which has too much chance of resulting in a mislynch.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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I didn't plan to come to a "quick lynch" - that's usually a synonym for rush job. I wanted the town to come to a lynch before the deadline hit. As CKD said, we don't have enough active players and I don't see that improving in the next two days, that's why I'm abandoning the idea. Unless something major happens (like someone claiming scum), we're not going to get a well-informed lynch.HazzelQ wrote:So now you claim vanilla townie and decide to abandon your plan to come to a quick lynch? Why- because the focus is on you! please.
As for the claim, someone asked me if it was a claim. So I just agreed to spill the beans. It's not likely someone is going to claim something else, so it has absolutely no weight at all - one way or the other.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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It was random. I voted him because someone with a name like that had to be scum. He didn't post yet so there was nothing else to base it on.
By the way, his name is HazzelQ, not HazzelIQ.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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The rules state that the SK can perform a kill after a lynch occurs or if at least a week passed since the last lynch. We can basically consider the period this kill occurs to be night, so we're actually on a week-long deadline from the moment a kill happens.Raffles wrote:HazzleIQ - as I understand it, we are not under pressure for any deadline at all. As I understand it, nightless means mafia gets no nightkills. Then the only person that has an ability to 100% control who to kill is a SK. This gives rise to an importance of swift and accurate lynching of SK, because this increases town's survival by a lot.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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No, I'm not. I changed my mind due to the lack of activity. HazzelQ even found my change of heart scummy.we are more likely to hit non-SK, and to give SK a free kill on top of it, which seems to be what you are trying to advocate.Mgm [122] wrote:
I didn't plan to come to a "quick lynch" - that's usually a synonym for rush job. I wanted the town to come to a lynch before the deadline hit. As CKD said, we don't have enough active players and I don't see that improving in the next two days, that's why I'm abandoning the idea. Unless something major happens (like someone claiming scum), we're not going to get a well-informed lynch.HazzelQ wrote:So now you claim vanilla townie and decide to abandon your plan to come to a quick lynch? Why- because the focus is on you! please.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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That's correct.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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Have you been reading my posts? I explained why I had a change of heart. Once, maybe even twice.heatherlou wrote:I just don't understand the sudden change in heart. I know Mirth mentioned her reasons for a no-lynch, were they that convincing to you?Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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'Scum' is the collective noun that describes all evil non-town roles. So I think you meant to say that "you found me [Mgm] suspicious as possible mafia, rather than serial killer."At the moment, I find MGM more suspicious as possible scum rather than serial killerShow"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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That was the Ninja's first and only post in the game and I didn't see any post yesterday that showed he kept that promise.The Deepfried Ninja wrote:im sorry i have not posted ill have something by tommorrow i promise
Here's a vote that hopefully discourages him from lurking:
Vote:The Deepfried Ninja
FOS: deepsouth
With 2 posts you're not much better, I didn't even remember you were playing until I perused the opening post.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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The game started on the 11th - that is 9 days ago. Not being able to post doesn't explain why he has just one post in over a week.I also don't realy understeand your vote on DeepFriedNinja. Sure, he hasn't posted, but it was the weekend, so that might be a reason for it.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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EBWOP: I meant to say:
"Not being able to postdoesn't explain why he has just one post in over a week."in the weekendShow"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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Try reading post 154 by Mirth. He explained it quite a lot of detail.curiouskarmadog wrote:How does killing M4yham speed up the MGM lynch?Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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I voted d3sisted for crappy spelling. It's not too much of a jump to think I'd have similar ideas about M4yhem.Well, this is inaccurate or an out and out lie. Please post where MGM jokingly targeted M4yham. He jokingly target d3sisted and me.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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CKD. Stop harrassing Kinetic. If I do indeed end up dead, you'll find out I'm not scum with him.
You conveniently forget all the other combinations that could explain his actions:to me, it looks like he is defending MGM...by stating that the SK is framing MGM is a ploy to either get votes off of his scumbuddy or stop more votes compliing. I do not trust anybody enough in this game to defend anyone yet. Looks like Kinetic is sticking his neck out there for MGM by posting this comment. Why?
1. He could be scum latching on to a townie he knows to be innocent.
2. I could be scum with him defending me incorrectly. (I know it happens because I did it with at least 2 of the 3 scum in Mafia 60)
3. We could both be innocent.
You already decided I'm guilty, so you immediately find Kinetic scummy even though you don't have any evidence to back it up.
Think for a moment. How would defending me help either of us? If we're really scum, it ensures the death of not one but two members, leaving just one to do the job. Besides, it's not my style to have someone else bail me out. Read some of my earlier games.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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The switch had to be sudden. With only a single week between kills, it doesn't leave us with the amount of time you'd normally associate with a non-scummy change of heart.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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You may want to look up the meaning of the word. Harrassing anyone is a bad thing. There's no point in making him talk, because Kinetic is one of the few people actually talking already.MGM: What is wrong with harrassing ANYONE (note: maybe apart from a confirmed innocent) in a mafia game? It's a way to get them talk, and I sure gained a lot more insight on kinetic than I had before.
I'm opposing it especially because your attack on him is based on a faulty premise. I'm not scum, so he can't be my scum buddy and you'll see that when I'm dead. If you'd like to push that idea and you're really convinced I'm scum, wait till I'm actually dead before you proceed with the accusations.
I still don't have an answer from anyone how questioning my wagon makes Kinetic scum and how me killing d3sisted would qualify as a cover up. [post 174]Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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I'm going to check on this to make sure Kinetic is right, but that's definitely worth aKinetic wrote:
Wow, the way you put those quotes, almost seemed like that was an exchange between me and Mirth. However those "two" posts by me were from the same post, and the one from Mirth was from a little while back.HazzelQ wrote:Ok, I have two things to add:Kinetic wrote:After that I'm even more convinced that the SK is trying to frame MGM. HazzleQ seems like the best suspect imo.Mirth wrote:Kinetics post (...)
I'd like to know exactly why he thinks Hazzel is the best suspect.Kinetic wrote:At this point I'm most suspicious of HazzleQ, but there are other people on my radar.
One thing to remember is that there are two scum groups and both of them have information that the town would like to have.FOS: HazzelQ.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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Mod:Can you prod some players and - if needed - get in replacements?Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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I'm discussing meaningless things? Now you're just being silly. It's fine you find my ideas weird, it's okay to disagree with me, but claiming I'm stalling is plain wrong. I'm doing everything I can to get meaningful discussion started.he discuss meaningless things (IMO to stall),
Are you talking about my idea the mafia is more dangerous than the SK?Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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There's a thread about this in the mafia discussion forum. Pressure tactics often get responses, but they're not always how the player would usually respond (town or scum). Pressure of that kind can get people in a defensive mode. A defensive attitude can be a sign of scumminess, but it's useless when it's the action to procure info that brought it on in the first place.Why should he, MGM? Yes your areguements are valid, but harrassing = more information = good.
Compare it to a situation where you ask someone to claim then vote them for claiming early.
I think there are more subtle and better ways to get information.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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No, not yet. It would still help the scum more than it would help the town.(MGM are you willing to share yet?)Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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That's not entirely true. There are several things I know and the rest of you don't and if you don't have an idea about what those things could possibly I'm not going to enlighten you. Your cluelessness is exactly what I want the scum to be stuck with.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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Come on people! Step up the pace. We're heading for the SK's killing day again.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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An extension would be nice anyway since we need those replacements to make headway.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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With 2 more days to go, I don't see anyone else qualify as lynch target and I'm obviously not going to vote myself.
Vote: HazzelQ
If by some miracle things start happening before the next SK target falls. I'd be happy to lynch the present-but-not-posting players who are keeping us from reaching a lynch.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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Stewie made 12 posts in this game (only slightly less than you) and he's been actively sharing his thoughts and questioning people. I don't see how that qualifies as lurking.
What does SiS stand for?Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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If you want something you should express it, so things are abundantly clear.I've been repeatedly asking him to contribute (without expressing this on purpose)
I still don't see it. Post 212, 194, etc... None of these say lurking or any kind of non-contribution to me.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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Vote count pleaseShow"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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So you weren't trying to make him contribute, you were just trying to make an accusation of lurking stick.Raffles wrote:It sorta defies the point of catching him lurking if I make it abundantly clear...
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After the first failure to lynch, in a large part down to a complete lack of discussion from some people, I expected the next week would be better. I was wrong.
Heather called me scummy for changing my opinion, but she never helped to get us a lynch in the first place when we still had plenty of time to get one. The last vote I saw of Heather was August 14, that's right about the first day (circa 2 days in) - no votes since.
Not lynching 'yesterday' was not all that bad. After all we were lacking information to make an informed decision, but that is no excuse not to lynch 'today'. We know what slowness leads to, so we should know better than to get into the same situation again. The only way to beat the SK (and the mafia) is decide on a lynch. If we don't, we're sitting ducks, and we'll get picked off one by one.Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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I disagree. With someone getting killed every week, we can't afford to wait to hit something 'solid' before we lynch. We'd be dead long before it happens. A reasonable suspicion should be enough to lynch like it is in any other game.Mirth wrote:... while I think we do need to figure out who the SK is and quickly, I'd rather have something solid to go on before we kill anyone. My premise is that anybody who is completely sure or seems completely sure of a lynch suspect seems to be more suspicious since only 4 people here know something the rest of us dont.
Besides what kind of solid thing are you hoping for? There are no cop investigations and no useful roleclaims (everyone would claim townie).Show"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
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