I recent that remarkIn post 1452, Raskolnikov wrote:dont entirely clear cloud tbh but EMers are a pain in the ass to deal with
and HA TOLD YOU ALL TOLD YOU ALL
Scoty be town now lets lynch BV or Jaack ty sheep Maria 2k16
I recent that remarkIn post 1452, Raskolnikov wrote:dont entirely clear cloud tbh but EMers are a pain in the ass to deal with
Stfu rask and let me LIVEIn post 1454, Raskolnikov wrote:your scumreads are ultra bad and I wouldn't even be surprised if sotty turns out rolecop or something.
You're on the wagon so no tyIn post 1506, BlackVoid wrote:Jaack is town. Why not hop over to the Hoopla wagon?
Wow we have the same sight in mind!In post 1511, I Am Innocent wrote:I care more about lynching scum, hence the hoopla vote!In post 1504, MariaR wrote:Join the jaack vote for a townblock!
I believe ScottyIn post 1513, I Am Innocent wrote:Do you believe both Victor's and Sotty's claims?In post 1512, MariaR wrote:Wow we have the same sight in mind!In post 1511, I Am Innocent wrote:I care more about lynching scum, hence the hoopla vote!In post 1504, MariaR wrote:Join the jaack vote for a townblock!
So why is your vote not on jaack or BV?
Isn't maifa with another kill like vig bastard or am I misunderstanding what you're sayingIn post 1515, I Am Innocent wrote:Cause the way I see it, with at least 2 town masons and a town tracker (this is the one I don't believe) in a 13 player game, I have to assume scum must be loaded with power. At least 2 scum with night actions (kill and at least one other), yet this group goes after the one player that Sotty tracked doing nothing.
Yeah, jack is not likely scum.
See this I agree with that he's putting effort but I feel some of it is LAMIST with those theory crafts his reads are also very dif to mine so it's hard to tr him but not impossibleIn post 1516, I Am Innocent wrote:And as for your other choice, I still strongly town read BV. His reads may be all over the place, but that is town effort (not very easily fakeable).
Ahhh I thought you meant just killing power.In post 1520, I Am Innocent wrote:Well I already linked to one normal game earlier where I was part of a 2 player scum team and we had a vig. But in my comment, I was thinking more like a rolecop/vanilla cop, or roleblocker that would have a night action as well. something more than an a passive role like encryptor.In post 1517, MariaR wrote:Isn't maifa with another kill like vig bastard or am I misunderstanding what you're sayingIn post 1515, I Am Innocent wrote:Cause the way I see it, with at least 2 town masons and a town tracker (this is the one I don't believe) in a 13 player game, I have to assume scum must be loaded with power. At least 2 scum with night actions (kill and at least one other), yet this group goes after the one player that Sotty tracked doing nothing.
Yeah, jack is not likely scum.
I had Hoopia as a null town but given the way the wagons are turning out and 2 of the people I can see myself lynching black and Creature it makes me feel like that jumped on the wagon to save their scum buddy jack It's not really Hoopia's actions themselves that makes me tr them I would have to look in detail moreIn post 1503, mhsmith0 wrote:
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I feel like Rask how prob the best early game and it was really...rasky? the posting just seems like rask to me cause I've played with town rask twice and this just screams it to meIn post 1531, I Am Innocent wrote:Yeah agree on Cloud. Rask I go back and forth on. I feel like he is just posting what I want to hear sometimes...In post 1529, MariaR wrote:Rask and Cloud are my 2 biggest tr's and I'm gonna assume there's 3 scum let's just SAY hoopia is scum and jaack is town I feel like scum would just easily go onto this wagon I already feel like scum are on the Hoopia wagon that's why it isn't hammered
you know if I was a good person this is the part where I'd go back and look at who started the grey/bbt wagon but I'm not.In post 1536, I Am Innocent wrote:It's possible Michel (now Creature) was the scum parked on Grey's L-2 wagon instead of Sotty, but I don't think so. I think Sotty was the early vote on it, Hoopla was the late scum wagon joiner, and one other scum stayed clear.In post 1532, MariaR wrote:I'm keeping that bad reads quote for when black and Creature flip scum and rubbing it in your face
I forgot the transcend one o-o But I do remember you were a lot more activeIn post 1538, I Am Innocent wrote:So you've played two town games with me so far, the one with transcend and deathnote, what is ur read on me?
I tr you because if you were mafia I'd find out in 3 posts joeyIn post 1543, CloudKicker wrote:You tr me becausei voted jack and jack foses me ?In post 1529, MariaR wrote:Rask and Cloud are my 2 biggest tr's and I'm gonna assume there's 3 scum let's just SAY hoopia is scum and jaack is town I feel like scum would just easily go onto this wagon I already feel like scum are on the Hoopia wagon that's why it isn't hammered
In post 1584, Creature wrote:Oh right, I wanted to pretend you were town and see the results, but then I ended forgetting about that.
If he had a sr on Hoopia before I would understand or if he outright said "I'm voting this because I have to" I would understand that tooIn post 1654, Sotty7 wrote:I get what you're saying, but the only other viable wagon right now is himself. What do you really expect him to do?In post 1613, MariaR wrote:Jaack you want more fine first of all that vote you made was opportunistic as fuck "I was kinda okay with a Hoopia wagon" nanana you're just voting it to save your own ass you only pop up when it's convenient for you and you've coasted a hella ton this game the fact your wagon has so much fight to it shows that Hoop is a counter wagon
Going to double check I won't be hammering Jaack before I move my vote over.
Good thing Scoty is never flipping!In post 1680, BlackVoid wrote:^ To lynch after a Sotty7 scumflip.In post 1679, MariaR wrote:Everyone who keeps saying vote scoty will be met with the end of my fist
The scum on this wagon are Creature and BV
Scum don't wanna draw attention on themselves but they don't mind putting it in hammer rangeIn post 1687, Hoopla wrote:Why exactly?In post 1686, MariaR wrote:The scum on this wagon are Creature and BV
The fun part is were gonna lose anyone when I get nightkilled and BV laughs away in his scumchatIn post 1692, Hoopla wrote:Usually I agree with this line of approach with regards to sorting claims out, but there is a risk of a Sotty-scum situation where a Mason is NK'ed tonight, then Sotty fakeclaims a guilty tomorrow. If you follow it and are wrong it leads the game to a 2:3 lylo with no info D3 and D4 as people were automatically following a claim/counterclaim scenario. That endgame would be highly favourable for scum imo, particularly when the town's reads have been quite polarised.In post 1688, Raskolnikov wrote:In an ideal world I'd actually lynch either GM or cloud and let sotty and jaack sort itself out in massclaim, but neither seems viable.
When scum are running low on options and are close to getting lynched they'll do anything.In post 1696, Sotty7 wrote:BV is reading Creature as town because I am reading him as scum. That's what it looks like to me right now away. There is little logic behind the read and why I think it shows he is locked in a tunnel on me which means he is more than likely town.
Maria, you really think Scum would tunnel in so hard right now? I don't see it.
Can I get quotes cause I have no idea what game you're readingIn post 1703, Hoopla wrote:I feel like BlackVoid has been very involved and putting himself in the limelight in critical situations, like around claim time and late wagon votes. To me he is drawing a lot of attention to himself. Also, him reaching out to me and trying to get me back in the game and providing content felt town motivated when he easily could have lurked and let me be lynched. But no, he is drawing attention to himself and trying to rally alternate wagons now when an easy mislynch in me is available.In post 1689, MariaR wrote:Scum don't wanna draw attention on themselves but they don't mind putting it in hammer range
I don't agree with all his reads, but I think this would be a particularly creative variety of deception if he is scum.
You're lowish hanging fruit I'd say why wouldn't he try and get a vote on another town going this can play out for any scum and it's very likeIn post 1711, Hoopla wrote:You're critical of BlackVoid putting the Grey wagon within lynch range on D1 whilst ignoring he was on the wagon to begin with, unvoted him and was highly active at a very unstable period of the game when Grey was trying to save himself, considered options elsewhere, and thenIn post 1706, MariaR wrote:Can I get quotes cause I have no idea what game you're readingrevotedGrey again. His play was absolutely in the limelight and looked like he was trying to figure out what was going on and what to do.
Today, he's reached out to me in my eleventh hour and is trying to rally a lynch elsewhere. Again, what's the point of doing that when I'm an easy mislynch up for grabs.
He's usually active and having his voice heard in critical stages of the game like this, which I think is a town mindset, as scum will often sit back and evaluate their options and won't often flip-flop and try to move the wave of momentum elsewhere (especially when it's moving it away from a townie, like he has with Grey and now me). It's risky and creative as scum to not sit back and accept mislynches when they fall into your lap, because you won't always get townread for it (exhibit A: your view of BV now) and risks opening the door to a chaotic scramble where scum could be lynched instead.
You barely said anything for me to give a bases on what your play is as scum.In post 1757, Creature wrote:Conclusion?In post 1755, MariaR wrote:something smart was the dominant hydra head
What makes me hard to read when you caught my hydra as scum quite easily?In post 1765, Creature wrote:I wanted to push myself to think you're town. If you are, not sure where you are.