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BlackVoid · Post Post #1875 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:08 pm

By the way. here's why it doesn't make sense for a scumteam not containing Sotty7 to kill TwoFace: TwoFace despite being obvtown barely did anything but tunnel on Sotty7. If Sotty7 was town, TwoFace has been very useful to the scumteam. Killing him over a claimed Mason would have been dumb.

MariaR · Post Post #1876 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:09 pm

You basically just said why the twoface kill is used to frame Scoty

BlackVoid · Post Post #1877 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:15 pm

If mafia wanted Sotty7 lynched, letting TwoFace push that lynch is much simpler than trying to "frame" her. TwoFace's major scumreads have been Sotty7, Hoopla, and MariaR. You are arguing that they both are town. So, it seems like you are saying that every one of his reads were wrong and you are all being framed which is nuts.

Raskolnikov · Post Post #1878 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:15 pm

In post 1873, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1870, Raskolnikov wrote:I wanted a flip like a week ago, this is getting really annoying now.
Selfing there would be helpful rask, i know ure scum and ure ignoring me blatantly

I can't really be bothered to defend myself.

As for you, you were an appealing lynch with GM not possible and sotty claimed as you were straight up coasting/useless here. But people refused, and then right after you actually picked up and started doing things so like ehhhh. And if your town it's not interesting really, another BV is fun and all but it gets exhausting.

goodmorning · Post Post #1879 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:16 pm

In post 1865, Raskolnikov wrote:We could lynch maria.

no.

Vote: Rask

CC: Maria, Cloud

GO GO QUICKLYNCH

Raskolnikov · Post Post #1880 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:18 pm

GM's a potential sotty partner tbh.

MariaR · Post Post #1881 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:20 pm

In post 1877, BlackVoid wrote:If mafia wanted Sotty7 lynched, letting TwoFace push that lynch is much simpler than trying to "frame" her. TwoFace's major scumreads have been Sotty7, Hoopla, and MariaR. You are arguing that they both are town. So, it seems like you are saying that every one of his reads were wrong and you are all being framed which is nuts.

Not true I don't even remember two having a sr on me I think everyone knew that twoface was scoty's main pusher

"Why not leave twoface alive to push scoty then"
Good question Maybe to defend scoty for towncred would be my best answer but the only people defending scoty are me and cloud who I tr so *shrug*

MariaR · Post Post #1882 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:21 pm

If the wagon comes down to rask Scoty my vote is fairly obv

Raskolnikov · Post Post #1883 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:22 pm

Hell, I'll selfvote if people promise to sheep my GM case tomorrow.

goodmorning · Post Post #1884 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:24 pm

In post 1880, Raskolnikov wrote:GM's a potential sotty partner tbh.

obviously the best thing to do when my partner's about to be lynched is obv chainsaw

o b v i o u s l y

MariaR · Post Post #1885 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:25 pm

I doubt that claim but *shrug* I'm getting to a point where it's "fuck this town"

Raskolnikov · Post Post #1886 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:27 pm

VOTE: goodmorning

Fuck it, 1v1. Compromise overrated, people just hate you for you being spineless when you try to be practical.

Raskolnikov · Post Post #1887 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:27 pm

Given general mentality and how GM's been impossible to lynch I likely lose this, but there's something to be said about going down with your beliefs.

MariaR · Post Post #1888 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:29 pm

Rask you're acting just like 1820 can you just take a step back ffs -_-

Raskolnikov · Post Post #1889 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:30 pm

Well, 99% of the time people seem to ignore dead reads anyways, but some people won't I know. Even BV seemed to give GI reads a good look despite his meltdown.

Raskolnikov · Post Post #1890 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:32 pm

In post 1888, MariaR wrote:Rask you're acting just like 1820 can you just take a step back ffs -_-

Can't be bothered. I could have lurked this day or just stuck on GM vanity style like a stubborn mule, but I go out of my way to reach out and try to get agreement and compromise and people just hate me for it.

MariaR · Post Post #1891 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:34 pm

In post 1890, Raskolnikov wrote:
In post 1888, MariaR wrote:Rask you're acting just like 1820 can you just take a step back ffs -_-
Can't be bothered. I could have lurked this day or just stuck on GM vanity style like a stubborn mule, but I go out of my way to reach out and try to get agreement and compromise and people just hate me for it.

How do you think I feel when everyone's telling me my reads are wrong and I feel so strong on it

Raskolnikov · Post Post #1892 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:36 pm

GM and sotty are probably scum anyways, but BV and cloud are demotivating, and creature too has some super permanent paranoia of me from that game I didn't even win. When I did sit down and put hours into casing not a single thing happened.

Sotty7 · Post Post #1893 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:36 pm

In post 1875, BlackVoid wrote:By the way. here's why it doesn't make sense for a scumteam not containing Sotty7 to kill TwoFace: TwoFace despite being obvtown barely did anything but tunnel on Sotty7. If Sotty7 was town, TwoFace has been very useful to the scumteam. Killing him over a claimed Mason would have been dumb.

Considering people are still doubting the mason claim today, I don't think it is dumb.

Raskolnikov · Post Post #1894 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:36 pm

In post 1891, MariaR wrote:How do you think I feel when everyone's telling me my reads are wrong and I feel so strong on it

Still think your reads are horrendous if you're town.

BlackVoid · Post Post #1895 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:37 pm

@Rask, if you really think GM is a Sotty7 buddy, lynch Sotty7 first and get her tomorrow. No point bailing on a scumlynch for that. If you really, really want to die, you could always get lynched tomorrow too! Why the rush?

With that said, my townread on GM is nowhere near as strong as before. She's more nullish to me now.

By the way, I have not looked at any of GreyICE's reads and I don't know where you got the impression that I did.

MariaR · Post Post #1896 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:37 pm

In post 1894, Raskolnikov wrote:
In post 1891, MariaR wrote:How do you think I feel when everyone's telling me my reads are wrong and I feel so strong on it
Still think your reads are horrendous if you're town.

And my point is provenn

Sotty7 · Post Post #1897 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:37 pm

In post 1892, Raskolnikov wrote:GM and sotty are probably scum anyways, but BV and cloud are demotivating, and creature too has some super permanent paranoia of me from that game I didn't even win. When I did sit down and put hours into casing not a single thing happened.

How is BV demotivating?

Cloud I could possibly understand, but BV?

Sotty7 · Post Post #1898 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:37 pm

In post 1895, BlackVoid wrote:With that said, my townread on GM is nowhere near as strong as before. She's more nullish to me now.

Why, what happened for this shift?

Raskolnikov · Post Post #1899 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:40 pm

In post 1895, BlackVoid wrote:@Rask, if you really think GM is a Sotty7 buddy, lynch Sotty7 first and get her tomorrow. No point bailing on a scumlynch for that. If you really, really want to die, you could always get lynched tomorrow too! Why the rush?

But I scumread GM more, sotty is a tracker claim, and also GM finally flipping should vindicate me and get people to stop annoying me, whereas even if sotty flips scum your top theory is literally that I'm scum bussing her.