Mini Normal 1843 - Endgame

[MariaR]

See I can't tell if you mean effort for scum hunting or like effort in general because you don't really need to fake effort as scum because I would assume scum normally try harder then town

[I Am Innocent]

Also IAIs first content is to setup speculate. Poorly, since mafia vigs are explicitly non-normal.

Yeah nice call genius.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=63370

Mafia Vigilante
Mafia Backup Vigilante
Town 1-shot Bulletproof Doctor
Town 2-shot Bulletproof Bodyguard
Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Friendly Neighbor
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie

[MariaR]

Votecount 2.07

Hoopla (4)

goodmorning , I Am Innocent , Creature , BlackVoid L-2 ,

Jaack (3)

Raskolnikov , MariaR , Hoopla ,

Jaack (4)

Raskolnikov , MariaR , CloudKicker , Hoopla L-2 ,

Creature (2)

VictorDeAngelo , Sotty7 ,

Sotty7 (1)

Jaack ,

Not Voting (1)

CloudKicker ,

Day two deadline is Friday November 18, 1 PM PST. (expired on 2016-11-18 13:00:00)

VictorDeAngelo, goodmorning, Jaack, I Am Innocent have been prodded.

With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch!

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I had Hoopia as a null town but given the way the wagons are turning out and 2 of the people I can see myself lynching black and Creature it makes me feel like that jumped on the wagon to save their scum buddy jack It's not really Hoopia's actions themselves that makes me tr them I would have to look in detail more

[MariaR]

Also IAIs first content is to setup speculate. Poorly, since mafia vigs are explicitly non-normal.

Yeah nice call genius.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=63370

Mafia Vigilante
Mafia Backup Vigilante
Town 1-shot Bulletproof Doctor
Town 2-shot Bulletproof Bodyguard
Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Friendly Neighbor
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie

Whoever reviewed this should feel bad.

[MariaR]

Rask and Cloud are my 2 biggest tr's and I'm gonna assume there's 3 scum let's just SAY hoopia is scum and jaack is town I feel like scum would just easily go onto this wagon I already feel like scum are on the Hoopia wagon that's why it isn't hammered

[I Am Innocent]

Votecount 2.07

Hoopla (4)

goodmorning , I Am Innocent , Creature , BlackVoid L-2 ,

Jaack (3)

Raskolnikov , MariaR , Hoopla ,

Jaack (4)

Raskolnikov , MariaR , CloudKicker , Hoopla L-2 ,

Creature (2)

VictorDeAngelo , Sotty7 ,

Sotty7 (1)

Jaack ,

Not Voting (1)

CloudKicker ,

Day two deadline is Friday November 18, 1 PM PST. (expired on 2016-11-18 13:00:00)

VictorDeAngelo, goodmorning, Jaack, I Am Innocent have been prodded.

With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch!

[/size]

I had Hoopia as a null town but given the way the wagons are turning out and 2 of the people I can see myself lynching black and Creature it makes me feel like that jumped on the wagon to save their scum buddy jack It's not really Hoopia's actions themselves that makes me tr them I would have to look in detail more

Okay so it's ur bad reads on black and creature that has u off....good to know, I won't put u in the scum pile yet then lol.

[I Am Innocent]

Rask and Cloud are my 2 biggest tr's and I'm gonna assume there's 3 scum let's just SAY hoopia is scum and jaack is town I feel like scum would just easily go onto this wagon I already feel like scum are on the Hoopia wagon that's why it isn't hammered

Yeah agree on Cloud. Rask I go back and forth on. I feel like he is just posting what I want to hear sometimes...

[MariaR]

I'm keeping that bad reads quote for when black and Creature flip scum and rubbing it in your face

[I Am Innocent]

I'll venture a guess that exactly one of Rask and Sotty is scum.

[MariaR]

Rask and Cloud are my 2 biggest tr's and I'm gonna assume there's 3 scum let's just SAY hoopia is scum and jaack is town I feel like scum would just easily go onto this wagon I already feel like scum are on the Hoopia wagon that's why it isn't hammered

Yeah agree on Cloud. Rask I go back and forth on. I feel like he is just posting what I want to hear sometimes...

I feel like Rask how prob the best early game and it was really...rasky? the posting just seems like rask to me cause I've played with town rask twice and this just screams it to me
I thing I have trouble on is if I have some type of meta on a read and people don't get it right away/sr or (or tr it if it's scum meta) I'm like "oh this is easy you don't get it you're scum"

[MariaR]

Let me go grab the 2 town rask games I'm talking about

[I Am Innocent]

I'm keeping that bad reads quote for when black and Creature flip scum and rubbing it in your face

It's possible Michel (now Creature) was the scum parked on Grey's L-2 wagon instead of Sotty, but I don't think so. I think Sotty was the early vote on it, Hoopla was the late scum wagon joiner, and one other scum stayed clear.

[MariaR]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=68380
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=67805
(Also a town game and scum game from me if you wanna try and meta me I guess)

[I Am Innocent]

So you've played two town games with me so far, the one with transcend and deathnote, what is ur read on me?

[I Am Innocent]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=68380
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=67805
(Also a town game and scum game from me if you wanna try and meta me I guess)

I'll look at these later, need to help with dinner since my wife is out and my oldest ain't motivated lol.

[MariaR]

I'm keeping that bad reads quote for when black and Creature flip scum and rubbing it in your face

It's possible Michel (now Creature) was the scum parked on Grey's L-2 wagon instead of Sotty, but I don't think so. I think Sotty was the early vote on it, Hoopla was the late scum wagon joiner, and one other scum stayed clear.

you know if I was a good person this is the part where I'd go back and look at who started the grey/bbt wagon but I'm not.

[MariaR]

So you've played two town games with me so far, the one with transcend and deathnote, what is ur read on me?

I forgot the transcend one o-o But I do remember you were a lot more active
I had you in the "you could be scum if I'm just wrong on everything" list (had a few ppl in that)
But I think you're town now from what I said before games aside

[Hoopla]

I also think that hoopla voting alone on gm (who isnt getting lynched) isnt a good play as scum when youre being heavily fosed

mmm, there's no point voting goodmorning when everyone has bailed from that wagon!

[CloudKicker]

Rask and Cloud are my 2 biggest tr's and I'm gonna assume there's 3 scum let's just SAY hoopia is scum and jaack is town I feel like scum would just easily go onto this wagon I already feel like scum are on the Hoopia wagon that's why it isn't hammered

You tr me becausei voted jack and jack foses me ?

[MariaR]

Rask and Cloud are my 2 biggest tr's and I'm gonna assume there's 3 scum let's just SAY hoopia is scum and jaack is town I feel like scum would just easily go onto this wagon I already feel like scum are on the Hoopia wagon that's why it isn't hammered

You tr me becausei voted jack and jack foses me ?

I tr you because if you were mafia I'd find out in 3 posts joey

[goodmorning]

goodmorning:

Despite not understanding GM's play at times, I think she's town. One of the biggest tells I've noticed was when she told Sotty7 that she doesn't want to argue with good players when she suspects them. It seemed like such a bizarre thing for scum to say. If GM was scum and scared of Sotty7 beating her in an argument, couldn't she simply attack weaker players? Stuff I wrote in 323 about her early play still apply.

No, because if I attacked "weaker" players I'd be accused of picking (on) low-hanging fruit.

Creature's stances and positions are amazingly consistent

dude

consistency is NOT A TOWN TRAIT

But then if he was so sure that he went to absurd lengths to write a wall of text about her, how did he so easily switch to Sotty7 instead of arguing that Sotty7 was a counterwagon to GM?

This is actually kind of a decent point though?

(especially given that rask seems to find not-pushing scummy)

I also think that hoopla voting alone on gm (who isnt getting lynched) isnt a good play as scum when youre being heavily fosed

hoopla isn't voting me though?

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EFFORT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENT

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Whoever reviewed this should feel bad.

I made the NRG joke before, right?

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Kinda feeling indifferent to the Hoopla wagon atm...

Vote: Creature

(CC: Maria)

[CloudKicker]

Rask and Cloud are my 2 biggest tr's and I'm gonna assume there's 3 scum let's just SAY hoopia is scum and jaack is town I feel like scum would just easily go onto this wagon I already feel like scum are on the Hoopia wagon that's why it isn't hammered

You tr me becausei voted jack and jack foses me ?

I tr you because if you were mafia I'd find out in 3 posts joey

LOL fuck off you wouldnt, i can play you about half the games

[CloudKicker]

@gm, he was voting you before flipping to jack

[BlackVoid]

goodmorning:

Despite not understanding GM's play at times, I think she's town. One of the biggest tells I've noticed was when she told Sotty7 that she doesn't want to argue with good players when she suspects them. It seemed like such a bizarre thing for scum to say. If GM was scum and scared of Sotty7 beating her in an argument, couldn't she simply attack weaker players? Stuff I wrote in 323 about her early play still apply.

No, because if I attacked "weaker" players I'd be accused of picking (on) low-hanging fruit.

Okay then, you are scum. My mistake.

[goodmorning]

@gm, he was voting you before flipping to jack

sure, but not now

the distinction is important, i think

goodmorning:

Despite not understanding GM's play at times, I think she's town. One of the biggest tells I've noticed was when she told Sotty7 that she doesn't want to argue with good players when she suspects them. It seemed like such a bizarre thing for scum to say. If GM was scum and scared of Sotty7 beating her in an argument, couldn't she simply attack weaker players? Stuff I wrote in 323 about her early play still apply.

No, because if I attacked "weaker" players I'd be accused of picking (on) low-hanging fruit.

Okay then, you are scum. My mistake.

Glad we got that straightened out!