Mini Normal 1843 - Endgame

[Raskolnikov]

But why?

[MariaR]

But why?

Why do you keep asking me why when I've explained in detail many times before.
This is also one of the first times you've even shown interest in my input in reads what's up.

[MariaR]

I don't get people's tr on BV and I never will I don't even mainly sr him for having reads that are opposite to mine it's the reasoning and intent behind said reads and I find his trash
he's also the best person to be Creature's buddy so we got that going for us

[Raskolnikov]

Actually, you haven't really explained it.

And I've been giving you a lot of space because I'm kind of used to this, and it's also a kind of unfair to judge you super harshly every game just because you fooled me once.

[Raskolnikov]

I don't get people's tr on BV and I never will I don't even mainly sr him for having reads that are opposite to mine it's the reasoning and intent behind said reads and I find his trash

Why do you find it trash? What parts?

You said this about the sotty push too, did that not make you re-evaluate at all?

[MariaR]

I took a step back and night and was rethinking if I was wrong about BV because he was one of (if not) the biggest pusher of the Scoty wagon and he was

extremly

sure about it and then I got to thinking why was he so sure and not the least bit iffy on a tracker claim?
Because he knew it wasn't real in the first place is my biggest guess
I already explained the reason why I think Creature is his partner is it's hard to make up good townreads on your partners and he said something that is not true and is a blatant lie and that's "Creature is consistent" and that's not true at all I've seen town Creature

[MariaR]

and it's also a kind of unfair to judge you super harshly every game just because you fooled me once.

Can you go in more detail on this?

[MariaR]

What makes you tr either of those slots if you also don't mind me asking

[Jaack]

Not to disrail what's going on here with Maria et al, but I think Cloud is the right lynch today.

His actions surrounding sotty's claim are highly suspect. He gives intent to hammer her, but backtracks after I unvote and start questioning him about his vote, saying he never really intended to hammer her. Then sotty comes in and claims anyway? At L-2? It feels like that was a scum scheme gone awry. Cloud didn't vote for Sotty to put her back at L-1 in case I had a twitchy trigger finger and hammered in spite of her claim.

I was pretty confused by that turn of the events, but it makes more sense after the end of D2 when cloud basically hard defended sotty on the virtue of her claim alone.

VOTE: CloudKicker

I'm more willing to lynch Maria today than I was D2, primarily because she was the only non-sotty person who brought up the idea that the twoface kill framed sotty. Could have been a scum talking point, since the twoface nk was not a traditional choice with a claimed mason out there. I wouldn't be opposed to lynching her, but my priority is cloud. It's possible she's been subverting site meta by hardtownreading her partners or it's possible she's just been wrong about everything.

[MariaR]

Not to disrail what's going on here with Maria et al, but I think Cloud is the right lynch today.

His actions surrounding sotty's claim are highly suspect. He gives intent to hammer her, but backtracks after I unvote and start questioning him about his vote, saying he never really intended to hammer her. Then sotty comes in and claims anyway? At L-2? It feels like that was a scum scheme gone awry. Cloud didn't vote for Sotty to put her back at L-1 in case I had a twitchy trigger finger and hammered in spite of her claim.

I was pretty confused by that turn of the events, but it makes more sense after the end of D2 when cloud basically hard defended sotty on the virtue of her claim alone.

VOTE: CloudKicker

I'm more willing to lynch Maria today than I was D2, primarily because she was the only non-sotty person who brought up the idea that the twoface kill framed sotty. Could have been a scum talking point, since the twoface nk was not a traditional choice with a claimed mason out there. I wouldn't be opposed to lynching her, but my priority is cloud. It's possible she's been subverting site meta by hardtownreading her partners or it's possible she's just been wrong about everything.

I didn't expect !scumscoty to kill someone that directly points to her when she was already under the heat of fire day 1

[Raskolnikov]

Our last game, I gave you a lot of trouble the entire game over that paranoia and you ended up town anyways, and I wondered if I would give you a hard time every game just because I personally messed up once. The problem is when you're actually town you're huge lynchbait, so it's kind of a dilemma. So I try to hold off and give you some breathing room until there's something substantial to talk about.

[MariaR]

Our last game, I gave you a lot of trouble the entire game over that paranoia and you ended up town anyways, and I wondered if I would give you a hard time every game just because I personally messed up once. The problem is when you're actually town you're huge lynchbait, so it's kind of a dilemma. So I try to hold off and give you some breathing room until there's something substantial to talk about.

I never understand why I'm lynch bait when I'm very obv town when I flip town on my home site and really trash scum when I flip it
on this site it's the other way around wtewyeeyws

[MariaR]

Btw now that I can talk about this
not willing to lynch Cloud but my townread on him has gone down after modding a mini normal and watching his scum game.

[Raskolnikov]

I don't think it can be cloud+maria together, given their early talk. Cloud+GM or cloud+hoopla fit on first glance, though.

[Raskolnikov]

Also ^that

[MariaR]

I was about to give a reads list but then I was like "I can see myself voting everyone here if I was given the right case"
the only people I don't want to vote are rask cloud lmfao

[MariaR]

I think scum either have a tracker or Jaack is scotty's buddy the former is more likely though.

[Jaack]

I don't think it can be cloud+maria together, given their early talk. Cloud+GM or cloud+hoopla fit on first glance, though.

I've been thinking Cloud+Hoopla made a decent amount of sense, but I'd want to lynch cloud first for sure. Cloud+GM is something that is a possibilty I'm open to, but I'm not feeling it all to strongly

Cloud+Maria doesn't make all that much sense to me, but if Cloud does flip town, then the chance of Maria being scum go way up. But I think he's going to flip scum based both on his own scummy actions and his behavoir around the sotty wagons yesterday.

[Raskolnikov]

Don't think cloud-gm is that good after a skim.

[Raskolnikov]

Hoopla's in every team I see apart from maria-GM.

[MariaR]

idk how people see me gm but then again I don't see how people see me with any team so #bias

[Creature]

Actually, who brought up the NKA first again?

[MariaR]

Actually, who brought up the NKA first again?

wtf is NKA

[Creature]

Nightkill Analysis.

[Raskolnikov]

IAI brought up twoface reads first thing.