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@tigerzone:
I don't like the way you're tunneling him.
If you really thought he was a completely useless player, you wouldn't have signed up in the first place.
This policy lynch looks like something you came up with after getting a scum role PM to justify a tunnel on someone who isn't really scum and go for an easy PL.
Therefore:
VOTE: tigerzoneAre you ready for this?-
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In post 28, tigerzone wrote:that's the most zabriel's going to be posting for about a few days now, please lynch him before he gets back guys.
In post 40, tigerzone wrote:In post 34, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Don't want to lynch zabriel this early.
fuzzybutternut wrote:Really and truly, I don't want to lynch ANYONE this early. Considering, you know, it JUST started.
Looks to me that you do expect this lynch of yours to go through
So that "argument" of yours is quite invalid
Also your OMGUS is very, very transparentAre you ready for this?-
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In post 71, Wisdom wrote:In post 68, Human Destroyer wrote:It is scummy.
Lynching someone before they say anything is a way to deprive town of information.
That's a scum tactic.
It's not like zabriel wouldn't have the chance to sayanythinguntil he gathers 7 votes. I disagree this is a scum tactic.
Considering zabriel's playstyle, this is actually very likely what would happen
Really, there's no basis for a policy lynch yet, and it seems to me like tigerzone's looking for an easy lynch. I'm going to repeat this question to everyone:If tigerzone thought zabriel played in an anti-town manner and disliked playing with him, why would he join a game with him?
P-Edit: Love you too mollie <3
Now tell me why this policy lynch ain't scummy thxAre you ready for this?-
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See, the main reason why his whole playstyle so far has been inherent bullshit is that anyone that is going into a game should check the playerlist to see if there's anyone in there that they absolutely refuse to play with based on playstyle.
Signing up to a game where the first thing you do is going to be "POLICY POLICY POLICY" is inherently anti-town.
Before you say something about playstyle, I don't make generalizations about anyone's playstyle until I feel I have enough experience with them to confidently make such generalizations. So to say someone usually plays in an anti-town manner, I very well expect you to prove it's part of their playstyle and not scummy.
Using that logic, I don't think tigerzone would come into a game like that; he would look to be pro-town. Therefore, I think his zab PL is complete fabrication and he's scum.
P-Edit: No.
P-P-Edit: Ironic that I happened to address that before it happened.Are you ready for this?-
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In post 58, tigerzone wrote:i came in here WANTING to policy lynch zabriel, but not expecting that it'd actually go through. if it went through, fuck yeah, if it didn't, then whatever.Are you ready for this?-
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Quick notes on players not named tigerzone and zabriel:
-fuzzybutternut gives me noob vibes, very slight town gut read
-I don't like Wisdom's defenses of tiger that are supposedly based on "past experience" with him. If one makes a claim, they have to prove it. It feels like he's just pulling things out of his ass.
-I also don't like how mollie has suggested a wagon on me but hasn't actually followed through on it.Are you ready for this?-
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You've still made a claim you haven't proven. Show me where tiger plays anti-town as town, and I just might believe you're not pulling things out of your ass.
Also, I remember from reading some of zabriel's games (I did so not-too-long ago for a different game) that he's mislynch fodder. He's an easy lynch, stop denying it.
His insistence on tunneling someone who is a pretty easy lynch before the game has even fully started is troubling; town has no good reason to start tunneling someone for their past play before anything's even happened in game.Are you ready for this?-
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In post 81, Wisdom wrote:tiger is an easy lynch because he's being anti-town and people who don't know him mistake that for scummy.
zabriel wrote:I don't think Tiger has any finished games yet. Meta is going to be hard to talk about.
Wisdom, you have some splainin' to do.Are you ready for this?-
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In post 103, theslimer3 wrote:Good luck with that one. The statistics of me being lynched on day one is 0
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I'm not sure I like Wisdom's defend everyone attitude. Does he normally do that as town?
Mollie's sticking to her RVS vote on ProHawk while expressing strong suspicions on me is bad. I also think her ProHawk scum read is OMGUSy and bad.
Also ProHawk I've started posting more in my games, I just need to get used to it. It gets harder the farther I postpone posting.
Also, I don't like the policy lynch flavor this tigerzone lynch is taking on. Yeah, his disrespectfulness was rude, but I despise policy lynches. Go check my meta if you really need proof, I hate them despite my alignment.Are you ready for this?-
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In post 143, pirate mollie wrote:oh god you really are scum this game aren't you
Was in response to Pro's first post.Are you ready for this?-
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In post 224, fuzzybutternut wrote:Okay, he's made one post and you're automatically deciding he's town? How exactly does that work?
Because I've played with him as town before and this is exactly how he plays.
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In post 223, Wisdom wrote:
"You're scum this game aren't you" is equal to me telling slimer "Should I get you lynched this game?"
She's trying to read him, she has not expressed any scumread.
Tell me then, why hasn't she expressed any sort of follow-through? You seem to know quite a bit about her thought processes, so maybe you know?Are you ready for this?-
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In post 158, ProHawk wrote:So if I play against anyone who loves meta, all I have to do is do everything scummy as town and then it goes from scummy--->null. Got it. Thanks for sharing your Wisdom. Wisdom.
Yeah this explains it best
I'm not disproving any sort of case on D_O; his post resembles his posting in his town game, so I'm calling him town. That should be pretty evident.Are you ready for this?-
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In post 154, ProHawk wrote:This is all beside the point. The reason she is scum is
A) She is staying out of a large heated battle between two people that are likely both town.
B) She is making jabs into the argument, without directly engaging in it.
C) She won't vote for people she claims to be scum - voting hesitance.
The fact that she claims to not know where her vote is, well that is just silly in and of itself. She didn't the last game I played town with her. She was more than confident to place votes and seemed to be very competent. And she wasn't worried about sticking her neck out.
A is something scum does often
B is something scum does often
C is something scum does often
That's not a playstyle issue; she's emitting scumtells. Trying to disprove scumtells without taking a firm stance in the actual argument makes meStrong FoS: Wisdom.It looks like hesitance to take a stance on his scum buddy from my perspective.
P-Edit: Because it's a post that comes from a town mindset.
Why should I wait to call someone town if I'm relatively sure they're town? It makes no sense.Are you ready for this?-
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Show me where she does it, and I'll actually believe you believe in that stance; your meta case is positively bullshit and based on the fact that clear scumtells are somehow nulltells.
What?
Posting reads doesexactlythat; it puts your thoughts out there so people can really see what you're thinking and see whether it comes from town or scum.Are you ready for this?-
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In post 250, Human Destroyer wrote:Show me the specific examples, I can't be arsed to read through a whole game
When I say this I mean:
-Show a specific example of A
-Show a specific example of B
-Show a specific example of CAre you ready for this?-
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Your case on me still sucks, my wagon is shitty, and everyone currently on it should get the fuck off
THE CASES OF MY WAGON:
tigerzone - OMGUS
Wisdom - tigerzone is an "easy lynch", so my pushing of him is scummy.
fuzzy - Stating a town read based on one post is scummy.
Tell me where my super devious scum motivation for doing things is, and maybe I'll come back and write up a wall proving why you're wrong
Right now we should be lynching mollie and Wisdom, so the fact that we aren't doing it is bad
P-Edit: @Mitillos I got stronger scumreads from mollie and Wisdom. I also might have been tunneling...a little...Are you ready for this?-
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In post 18, pirate mollie wrote:VOTE: prohawk
this is a serious vote, lol
cue for wisdom to trolleytrack on me all game
in other news I just recently learned that N is a guy, I thought he was a girl all of this time and made up this sisterly love bonding in my head for like months now so I will probably be trolling him cos he can't ignore my posts. it will be like a car accident that he can't resist rubbernecking and it will probably be the best central park game ever.
In post 99, pirate mollie wrote:stop it about ongoing games
don't make N do something, it is hard for him
liking wisdom for town
fuzzy jesus christ can you possibly look any scummier, but I happen to know that you can
I am good for my hd vote for now
You pretty clearly support it.
Notably, with no reasoning or anything.
You make no mention of ProHawk until your "You really are scum, aren't you?" comment, then never talk about him again until prodded to
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In post 280, pirate mollie wrote:In post 278, Human Destroyer wrote:No
Burden of proof is on you
You need to show me wherespecificallyshe does these scummy things as town
fuck this shit
VOTE: hd
TOOK YOU FUCKING LONG ENOUGH GODAre you ready for this?-
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In post 282, Wisdom wrote:In post 278, Human Destroyer wrote:No
Burden of proof is on you
You need to show me wherespecificallyshe does these scummy things as town
No, I don't. If you're town and have interest in scumhunting, do the research yourself.
Incorrect.
When someone makes a claim, they're the ones that have to prove it.
I.E. you.
I'm not interested in reading it because I simply don't have the time nor energy. Therefore, you have work to do.Are you ready for this?-
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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Wisdom
Mollie if Wisdom is actually WKing you I apologize for attacking you
If you're scum I don't apologize
But yeah he's pretty much scum
You probably are too though so don't get your hopes up
I mean seriously, his outright refusal to actually prove his claim with specific examples from the games he's citing, his fencesitting on mollie...it's just so fucking scummy.
P-Edit: Have I not made myself fucking clear enough?
Youhave made a claim.
Youhave to prove it.
Ishould not have to prove or disprove your claim until after you prove it.
That is how burden of proof works.Are you ready for this?-
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THAT'S NOT HOW BURDEN OF PROOF FUCKING WORKS
YOU HAVE TO PROVE YOUR OWN FUCKING CLAIMS
I DID NOT MAKE ANY CLAIM ABOUT MOLLIE'S META, THEREFORE I HAVE NOTHING TO PROVE
YOU HAVE IT PRETTY MUCH COMPLETELY BACKWARDS
JESUS CHRIST
P-Edit:
-Avoiding major arguments between town (assuming it was town v. town) is scummy because it's a way to keep attention away from you.
-If it actually was a town v. town argument, stoking the fires distracts people from your scumminess.
-Hesitance in voting because you aren't sure how it will make you look and you want to think about it from a tactical angle; town don't need tactics, they need to find scum.Are you ready for this?-
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MY FUCKING GOD YOU AREN'T LISTENING
I DIDN'T MAKE A CLAIM, THEREFORE I HAVE NO REASON TO GO PROVE IT FOR YOU. YOU MADE A CLAIM, SO YOU HAVE EVERY FUCKING REASON TO GO PROVE IT.
SO STOP BEING ALL SELF-RIGHTEOUS WITH YOUR "OMG ANYONE WHO DOESN'T LOOK THROUGH THE GAMES I LINKED MUST BE SCUM" BECAUSE GUESS WHAT: I DON'T REALLY FUCKING CARE.
MOLLIE HAS BEEN ACTING GODDAMN SCUMMY, AND YOU'VE BEEN ATTEMPTING TO DISINTEGRATE IT WITH BULLSHIT META TELLS THAT MAY NOT EVEN BE REAL.
THIS IS A WHOLE CROCK OF BULLSHIT BEING USED BY THE SCUMTEAM TO PAINT ME AS SCUMMY.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, I'M DONE WITH IT.Are you ready for this?-
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