Diffusion of Power (Open 478) over

[Human Destroyer]

Show me the specific examples, I can't be arsed to read through a whole game

[Wisdom]

Most replacements give their reads when they catch up - not necessarily a town tell. But if you have meta reasons, I won't argue them.

[fuzzybutternut]

It's not THAT you find him town. It's WHY you find him town that I find scummy.

[Human Destroyer]

I find him town for a post I think comes from a genuine town mindset.

How is that in any way scummy?

[Human Destroyer]

Show me the specific examples, I can't be arsed to read through a whole game

When I say this I mean:

-Show a specific example of A
-Show a specific example of B
-Show a specific example of C

[zabriel]

D_O posted complete reads, a vote, and responded to a really shitty associative push by The Puck before HD made his post. That's more content than some of us have produced this game. I thought there was enough content for somebody who trusts meta to start forming a read. I'm actually a little troubled by how bothered Fuzzy seems by this.

PEdit: Are you anti-meta or did I miss something fuzzy?

PEdit: Slow down!

[fuzzybutternut]

The fact that
1.) What he did was good, yes, but in no way is it a town tell. All he did was state his opinion.
2.) You provided no explanation as to WHY you thought he was town in the first place. All that was said was "D O is town."
3.) You're relying on Meta alone. Nothing else, just Meta.

As far as the other goes, I may get around to it sometime, but right now, I honestly don't feel like going back to that game.

@Zab- No, I'm not anti-meta. However, I don't believe that a town read can be based solely on meta alone. If that were the case, then why would anyone sign up, if someone they've played with before was in the game? They could just look and go "Oh, he was town last game, must be town this game too."

[Human Destroyer]

Except, I'm not basing it on only meta

That post is townish without meta, meta just seals the deal

[fuzzybutternut]

We'll see how that read goes later on in the game then.

[Mitillos]

@HD (damn it you guys post too much in one go): mollie's 143 reads more like a joke than anything, to me. Also, I think I'm fairly rational, and my vote is on someone that I have absolutely no read on (he hasn't really said anything), because it was an RVS vote I never changed, because I don't see anyone else as a solid scumread, yet.
Speaking of which, what happened to your scumread on tiger? I mean, you were one of the people voting him, who didn't do it because of his rudeness, but because you made an actual case on him being scum. Did you change your mind about him?

[Wisdom]

Until D_One starts scumhunting and places a normal vote instead of a policy one, I don't see him as town.

[Human Destroyer]

Your case on me still sucks, my wagon is shitty, and everyone currently on it should get the fuck off

THE CASES OF MY WAGON:

tigerzone - OMGUS
Wisdom - tigerzone is an "easy lynch", so my pushing of him is scummy.
fuzzy - Stating a town read based on one post is scummy.

Tell me where my super devious scum motivation for doing things is, and maybe I'll come back and write up a wall proving why you're wrong

Right now we should be lynching mollie and Wisdom, so the fact that we aren't doing it is bad

P-Edit: @Mitillos I got stronger scumreads from mollie and Wisdom. I also might have been tunneling...a little...

[Wisdom]

Right now we should be lynching mollie and Wisdom, so the fact that we aren't doing it is bad

Add "wants to lynch two townies" in my reason for being on your wagon

[Human Destroyer]

Oh do tell where your null read on mollie went away

I'll be happy to hear it

(spoilers: that looks like a scumslip to me)

[Wisdom]

Its still null, but the way you're pushing it makes me believe she's town.

[Human Destroyer]

Yeah you're scum together

Thanks for confirming that

[Wisdom]

You underestimate me if you think I'd slip so easily.

[Human Destroyer]

Well you did

So I'm not really underestimating anything

[Wisdom]

Well I didn't, because townies can't slip.

[Human Destroyer]

Except you did

So you're not a townie

I can go on and on if you'd like, but we won't get anywhere

[Wisdom]

Same here, so tell me when you decide to stop tunneling.

[Human Destroyer]

Hey so

no

Considering you have actually been acting scummy I have no plans to stop pushing you

[Wisdom]

You're not voting me though - if I am scum, how can you be sure that I am not WKing mollie?

[Human Destroyer]

I can't

But I think mollie's the scummier out of you two

So I'm voting my scummiest read

[zabriel]

If Mollie flips town is Wisdom White Knighting?