Diffusion of Power (Open 478) over

[Disturbed_One]

Oh HD agreed? It must be true then.

There might be some sarcasm in the above.

Find me someone else that thinks it isn't true and I might actually give a damn.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

In order to refute that, one should provide a post that is not explained with any semblance of town motivation. Which, if you have a scum read on a player, should be easy to provide.

This game has a minority of scum players. You need to make a

case

for why a player is scum, and the towns are POE'd. If you want to go the opposite way and POE the scum team, then yes, a town case for each player is necessary. I am not, however, taking the latter course of action. So my reasoning doesn't need any elaboration.

[Wisdom]

I don't care if you give a damn or not. The fact is you misrepped me, whether you realize it or not.

[Human Destroyer]

Hey folks

So I found a better wagon

You should all follow me on it

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mitillos

His vote park on me made me take a closer look at him

He's doing really well at this blending in business and the fact that he can't even formulate any sort of reason for calling me scum except for an extremely weak meta case (based on a single scum game, and my very first one on the site) is bad.

His only other scumread is Siv, an extremely non-controversial target. Should also mention that he actually has evidence for Siv-scum, but not for HD-scum, yet apparently I'm somehow more worthwhile to push. I also find it weird that he wouldn't push a wagon on a more quantifiable scumread of his that has more votes on it.

Pretty much I don't like the conservative way he's been playing and it looks like he's trying to fade into the background by attacking relatively non-controversial targets.

[Human Destroyer]

People I'm down for lynching today:

{Mitillos, Wisdom, Siv, mcqueen}

Majiffy/mollie slot has moved up to null for me.

[Disturbed_One]

@ BeautyAndTheBeast:

I had already given my reasoning in this post: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p4724244

[Mitillos]

The foreground is taken by pointless back-and-forths between Wisdom and whoever is accusing him at the time.
Conservative play is not a scumtell.
Non-controversial targets are non-controversial because they are obv.scum. Otherwise they would be controversial.

Keep trying.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

It seems your reasons are as follows;
1) He "doesn't seem to say what he means", no evidence provided.
2) He defends a lot of people.
3) He didn't agree with you on a Mollie PL, which you later agreed with him on.

The above does not a strong scum case make.

[Kmd4390]

Gonna try to read more of this game tomorrow before work

[mcqueen]

D_O seems like Town now.
Wisdom is still shithead Scum.
Mollie seems Town, Majiffy an asshole.
Human Destroyer is annoying as fuck, don't really care what he is.
CF seems Town.
All the other players make no impression on me.

[zabriel]

@Prohawk - Thanks. Yeah, that makes sense.

The Puck has one post with any content. His one post with content looks fake and opportunistic.

DO keeps pushing this bad case on Wisdom, and it's really gotten past the point where I'm thinking stubborn town.

Mitillos. The whole "I watched this one Newbie game where HD was scum, so I think he's scum here too" was pretty bad. He also kind of overstated how bad a policy lynch would be.

But don't you think that Siv's been too quiet to be scum, rather than null?

Non-controversial targets are non-controversial because they are obv.scum. Otherwise they would be controversial.

Basically everything Prohawk said about KMD. Also:

In post 610, Kmd4390 wrote:
The last time I played with prohawk, he looked obvtown (although some people disagreed). He doesn't look that way here.

Srsly kmd?

McQueen. If we can't agree on anything else, I've got enough paranoia that he might be overdoing the VI thing to vote this.

[Kmd4390]

Srsly bro.

[theslimer3]

D_O seems like Town now.
Wisdom is still shithead Scum.
Mollie seems Town, Majiffy an asshole.
Human Destroyer is annoying as fuck, don't really care what he is.
CF seems Town.
All the other players make no impression on me.

[zabriel]

Thoughts about the game KMD?

@Slimer - You make an impression on me.

[CF Riot]

Kmd keeps giving prod dodges with intent to post but hasn't delivered. I'd happily lynch Kmd or Mitillos. I'd unhappily lynch McQueen or D_O. It's about that time.

[Kmd4390]

Thoughts about the game KMD?

@Slimer - You make an impression on me.

Dunno haven't really read it. Pretty sure siv is scum though. And whoever replaced tigerzone is town. Slimer is town. Basically what I said in my big post.

[theslimer3]

Thoughts about the game KMD?

@Slimer - You make an impression on me.

<3

[Mitillos]

@zab: You'll note that I also said that I think that HD doesn't seem to have a pro-town mindset. So, no, it's not only the similarities with his other scumgame. And how did I overstate anything? I said what I think on PL's. Also, you will note that what I asked about Siv was followed by Beauty's response, which I accepted. And the thing you quoted about non-controversial targets was in response to HD's case on me. So, what exactly is your point?

@CF: Why do you want to lynch me?

[zabriel]

@Mitillos - Where did Siv become obvscum? When you admitted that B&B had a point you also expressed a worry that he might just be uninterested town.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

@ DO

okay so you think my posts are...contentless? seriously? then you will no problem providing 3 posts that are....contentless.

also your request wasn't exactly reasonable, you were asking other players to do your work for you when all you had to do was move your cursor of the wiki box under my avatar and click it and you would have seen that I was lynched as scum in both games, so obviously I can be read by some people. I am fucking sick of you putting me down so that you can make yourself better, I think your playstyle sucks cos it is quite obvious you have no fucking clue as to what you are doing and if you replaced out it would make my day cos maybe someone who is not a total fucking idiot can take over that slot and maybe we can finally get a read on it instead the fucking dramarama crap that so far has been the only thing to come out of it.

as for you being an easy lynch, that is bullshit I seriously want you lynched like the idea of it makes me

wet

, that's how bad I want it. do you know who is an easy lynch? zab. it seems like he gets lynched in every game I play with him. ask him he will probably say yes.

and yes, you can now I say I am being directly insulting, the whole reason I asked to hydra with majiffy was cos I didn't want to lose my temper and shit up N's game and ruin it for the other players. you insulted me by suggesting that I shitty enough player to deserve to be policy lynched on d1. you can call me a cunt, a whore, a bitch, an idiot whatever but insult my gameplay I have played probably over 100 games by now on 8 different sites. I am not the best player but I am not a shit player and that is essentially what you are calling me so yeah, I am pretty insulted.

sorry guys I really was trying to prevent my imminent meltdown but I am sick of him putting me down.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

also thank you kmd for sticking up for me and saying I wasn't stupid.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

also prohawk I think majiffy and I are doing fine with our hydra, I am amzed we are doing as well as we are usually we disagree on nearly everything and fight over who gets to be in charge. but we do have 2 distinct personalities and neither of us can really be anything other than what we are.

the mcqueen lynch is a bad one and I really hope that the people on that wagon will get off of it cos what he showed was town flail not scum flail. wisdom plz trust me in this.

also siv gets super duper lurky as scum so I would be fine with his lynch.

kmd I was getting ready to go after you but I liked your post and agree with some of your reads. it is good to see you finally get your head in the game.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

D_O seems like Town now.
Wisdom is still shithead Scum.
Mollie seems Town, Majiffy an asshole.
Human Destroyer is annoying as fuck, don't really care what he is.
CF seems Town.
All the other players make no impression on me.

I don't think wisdom is scum, too many of his posts come from a town POV.

town win condition>>>town motivation>>>town POV posts

[mcqueen]

D_O seems like Town now.
Wisdom is still shithead Scum.
Mollie seems Town, Majiffy an asshole.
Human Destroyer is annoying as fuck, don't really care what he is.
CF seems Town.
All the other players make no impression on me.

I don't think wisdom is scum, too many of his posts come from a town POV.

town win condition>>>town motivation>>>town POV posts

There are only a few I see that way. The rest are

null at best

,

shithead Scum at worst

.

[Human Destroyer]

Human Destroyer is annoying as fuck, don't really care what he is.

Love you too

The foreground is taken by pointless back-and-forths between Wisdom and whoever is accusing him at the time.
Conservative play is not a scumtell.
Non-controversial targets are non-controversial because they are obv.scum. Otherwise they would be controversial.

Keep trying.

1) Yes but you chose to stay out of it; you could've even tried to break it up and say "HEY! THIS GUY OVER HERE! HE'S SCUM YOU SHOULD LOOK AT HIM MORE CLOSELY!" But lolnope, you just let the argument continue. (If Mitillos flips scum I'd almost be willing to call Wisdom town)

2) Yep, avoiding treading on anyone's toes is certainly not a scum-motivated playstyle. No siree.

3) Zab already asked this, but when did you go from "Siv is too silent to be scummy" to "Siv is obv-scum"?

Your push (or lack thereof) on me is very telling; you've literally just said "lol HD's posts don't look like they come from a pro-town mindset", tried to push a weak-as-shit meta case on me, and then parked your vote there without even attempting to convince others to vote me.

Seriously, Mitillos is scum.

I got it this time.