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In post 261, Human Destroyer wrote:Your case on me still sucks, my wagon is shitty, and everyone currently on it should get the fuck off
THE CASES OF MY WAGON:
tigerzone - OMGUS
Wisdom - tigerzone is an "easy lynch", so my pushing of him is scummy.
fuzzy - Stating a town read based on one post is scummy.
Tell me where my super devious scum motivation for doing things is, and maybe I'll come back and write up a wall proving why you're wrong
Right now we should be lynching mollie and Wisdom, so the fact that we aren't doing it is bad
P-Edit: @Mitillos I got stronger scumreads from mollie and Wisdom. I also might have been tunneling...a little...
let me explain something to you hd, something you should already know
I will move my vote when I am freaking good and ready and not a moment before which tbh I am pretty sure this has come up in at least 1 game that we have been in. I am not trying to be sticky with my vote but prohawk's policy lynch does give me pause cos it does not seem like him to compromise his team in order to get rid of anti-town play but in some ways it fits in with his whole boyscout meta and I am questioning him and pushing on him in order to get a stronger grasp of the nuances of his thought processes in order to shake out a stronger read. and to shake out scum.
that you are missing this is epic fail on your part
if this has come up in any games we have played together and you are deliberately misconstruing this shit then you are toast. I am going to look at the cult game we played in.
wisdom is a meta player whoactually does his researcheven though he can be wrong sometimes and the game that fuzzy and I were in, scum came at me with the exact same dumb argument you are providing now.whew!-
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In post 278, Human Destroyer wrote:No
Burden of proof is on you
You need to show me wherespecificallyshe does these scummy things as town
fuck this shit
VOTE: hdwhew!-
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In post 18, pirate mollie wrote:VOTE: prohawk
this is a serious vote, lol
cue for wisdom to trolleytrack on me all game
in other news I just recently learned that N is a guy, I thought he was a girl all of this time and made up this sisterly love bonding in my head for like months now so I will probably be trolling him cos he can't ignore my posts. it will be like a car accident that he can't resist rubbernecking and it will probably be the best central park game ever.
In post 99, pirate mollie wrote:stop it about ongoing games
don't make N do something, it is hard for him
liking wisdom for town
fuzzy jesus christ can you possibly look any scummier, but I happen to know that you can
I am good for my hd vote for now
You pretty clearly support it.
Notably, with no reasoning or anything.
You make no mention of ProHawk until your "You really are scum, aren't you?" comment, then never talk about him again until prodded to
Get lynchedAre you ready for this?-
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In post 278, Human Destroyer wrote:No
Burden of proof is on you
You need to show me wherespecificallyshe does these scummy things as town
No, I don't. If you're town and have interest in scumhunting, do the research yourself.-
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In post 280, pirate mollie wrote:In post 278, Human Destroyer wrote:No
Burden of proof is on you
You need to show me wherespecificallyshe does these scummy things as town
fuck this shit
VOTE: hd
TOOK YOU FUCKING LONG ENOUGH GODAre you ready for this?-
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In post 282, Wisdom wrote:In post 278, Human Destroyer wrote:No
Burden of proof is on you
You need to show me wherespecificallyshe does these scummy things as town
No, I don't. If you're town and have interest in scumhunting, do the research yourself.
Incorrect.
When someone makes a claim, they're the ones that have to prove it.
I.E. you.
I'm not interested in reading it because I simply don't have the time nor energy. Therefore, you have work to do.Are you ready for this?-
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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Wisdom
Mollie if Wisdom is actually WKing you I apologize for attacking you
If you're scum I don't apologize
But yeah he's pretty much scum
You probably are too though so don't get your hopes up
I mean seriously, his outright refusal to actually prove his claim with specific examples from the games he's citing, his fencesitting on mollie...it's just so fucking scummy.
P-Edit: Have I not made myself fucking clear enough?
Youhave made a claim.
Youhave to prove it.
Ishould not have to prove or disprove your claim until after you prove it.
That is how burden of proof works.Are you ready for this?-
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In post 276, Human Destroyer wrote:Yes.
I'm pretty sure she's going to flip scum though so it won't matter
P-Edit: ProHawk's case is actually very good. Your whole meta case without any attempt at proving it is inherently bullshitbecause the things mollie's doing are legitimate scum tells.
list the scumtells
the ones you provided earlier are bs cos they are not alignment based they player style based. hth
maybe you should try to figure out wtf scumtells actually are before tossing that term around haphazardly.whew!-
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THAT'S NOT HOW BURDEN OF PROOF FUCKING WORKS
YOU HAVE TO PROVE YOUR OWN FUCKING CLAIMS
I DID NOT MAKE ANY CLAIM ABOUT MOLLIE'S META, THEREFORE I HAVE NOTHING TO PROVE
YOU HAVE IT PRETTY MUCH COMPLETELY BACKWARDS
JESUS CHRIST
P-Edit:
-Avoiding major arguments between town (assuming it was town v. town) is scummy because it's a way to keep attention away from you.
-If it actually was a town v. town argument, stoking the fires distracts people from your scumminess.
-Hesitance in voting because you aren't sure how it will make you look and you want to think about it from a tactical angle; town don't need tactics, they need to find scum.Are you ready for this?-
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MY FUCKING GOD YOU AREN'T LISTENING
I DIDN'T MAKE A CLAIM, THEREFORE I HAVE NO REASON TO GO PROVE IT FOR YOU. YOU MADE A CLAIM, SO YOU HAVE EVERY FUCKING REASON TO GO PROVE IT.
SO STOP BEING ALL SELF-RIGHTEOUS WITH YOUR "OMG ANYONE WHO DOESN'T LOOK THROUGH THE GAMES I LINKED MUST BE SCUM" BECAUSE GUESS WHAT: I DON'T REALLY FUCKING CARE.
MOLLIE HAS BEEN ACTING GODDAMN SCUMMY, AND YOU'VE BEEN ATTEMPTING TO DISINTEGRATE IT WITH BULLSHIT META TELLS THAT MAY NOT EVEN BE REAL.
THIS IS A WHOLE CROCK OF BULLSHIT BEING USED BY THE SCUMTEAM TO PAINT ME AS SCUMMY.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, I'M DONE WITH IT.Are you ready for this?-
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Don't be mad, bro.
I felt the need to point out that those accusations were bullshit. I had no obligation to prove why, especially to people who have played with mollie before. If someone asked me to provide a game, I would. And I did. But what you're asking is too much - I won't go that far only to show you that my "claim" wasn't something I pulled out of my ass. It's there, and you can find it.-
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My point is that the accusations are not bullshit.
They are viable scumtells that work in finding scum.
But you're too busy being scum to care and you're pushing on me for the shitty reasoning that I was pushing a supposedly easy lynch and that I won't go read a game when I'm busy playing in about 10 other games and have real life to take care of.
Even if you're town, you're far too blinded by meta for your reads to be anywhere near good.Are you ready for this?-
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Welcome to debate club. Seriously right now.
VOTE: HD
Quit being a lazy ass.-
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@Wisdom: I've gone through mollie's ISO in Micro 99, but I'm not sure I see where she behaves the way you say. She seems to be fairly active in the discussions. She doesn't seem to have called anyone solidly scum and not moved her vote on them.
Newbie 1309, which butter linked seems to be much more like her actions in this game, though. Here's the problem though. She was specifically attacked the same way in that game. She has said as much herself, here. She knows that that's part of her meta and that she can use it. I'm not sure that her town-meta is an adequate defense. Can it be clearly shown that she does not do the same as scum?You don't have ambiguity; you haveoptions.
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