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Hoopla is scum with Andrius.Andrius wrote:Vote: flinter, the only person on the playerlist I've never heard of before.
The Masons should definitely not all claim as a group if the first one is run up.
Hello to DDD, who I haven't played with in a very long time. Hoopla, I will do my best to not turn this into a PYP4 Andy-lurkfest.
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I'm voting you for valid reasons.Hoopla wrote:
Stop it. You're voting for me too. Don't try and be on my side if you're going to indulge in Nacho's silly fantasy.Fate wrote:But there are more people in this thread than you and I.
This reaction continues to lack.Fate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
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My part was to point out who the BOLDED IS IRONIC IF YOU THINK GETTING LYNCHED AT TOWN+"i had sum gude scumreads"=TOWN MVP#2 LOLOLZDebonair Danny DiPietro wrote:Hi guy who wasn't there; where was your part in this conversation, oh yeah it doesn't exist so why don't you go back to yelling at random people andpretending you're better than you are.Fate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
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If we turn this into another "gambit" discussion thread with this awesome a player list I'll rage.
Self-hammering as town was never one of my gambits, and it never will be. I have so many sucessful N1 kills drawn or scumplans fucked with that you picking one or two and saying 'look this one didn't pan out at all' is just worthless nitpicking. I"VE NEVER BEEN LYNCHED FOR MY GAMBITS, I"VE NEVER PREVENTED SCUM FROM BEING LYNCHED WITH MY GAMBITS (quite the opposite, obviously), AKA THEY ARE NOT QUESTIONABLE OR "FAILURES"
andrew are you the infamous VI that people have been talking about?
Why the hell can't you even use quote tags?
I'm trying not to rage this game but my limits are getting pushed.Fate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
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mothrax wrote: Hoopla (1): AndriusFate wrote:Nobody Special is scum.
LOL.Andrius wrote:Nobody Special is probably scum.
Seriously this game is just laughably over.
I mean, I'll die N1 and all so you guys can play it out and have "fun" but FMPOV this game is over.Fate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
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"PLEASE ELABORATE HOW YOU NAILED THE ENTIRE SCUMTEAM WTFBBQ THIS MAN IS PSYCHIC IM FUCKING SCARED?"Dafish wrote:Fate, would you mind elaborating on your stance on Andrius? While you're at it, go ahead and elaborate on your stance on me and Nobody Special as well (though of those 3, Andrius is the one I'd like to see you talk about the most)
Please try to use quotations and/or playstyle analysis in your answer.Fate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
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"I'm not being condescending..."
"Link me two recent newbie games, since they must be recent since you're such a noob."
Are you an unintentional asshole or just passive aggressive?
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Here's a basic thing about mafia you may not have thought of:
Lynches are our destination. The votes are the fuel that get us to that destination.
Reasoning? Explanations? They are the type of fuel, the specific details.Is he using unleaded scum fuel to get to the lynch? Bonafide Grade-A town fuel?
I have no town motivation to describe my type of fuel since I am already heading in the right direction toward a scum lynch.
There is also little reason for me to explain myself, since the only reason one would need to do that is if they needed to be viewed as town.
I don't need to be viewed as town for reasons that should be apparent without explanation.
This gives more room for OTHER people to explain their motivations and fuel choices, as you can see ABR did in 139. This way, you get more reads on more people that we actually need to get reads on.
Since I started this trip toward City of Andrius, you can judge my actions by the appearance of the city when we get there.
Was this the best place to go? Why did Fate take us on this trip?
Those are important questions you can ask yourself when we get there, rather then questioning me en route.Fate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
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This has a serious flaw. Yes, lynches are our destination. However, you cannot expect an entire town to realize the scumminess of a particular player through osmosis. In order to get support for a lynch, it must have a valid basis and an explanation that others can follow. I, and I assume others as well, have a hard time supporting a case with my vote if that case has not been laid out beyond "Player X is scum".[/quote]Dafish wrote: There is also little reason for me to explain myself, since the only reason one would need to do that is if they needed to be viewed as town.
There is no flaw. Other's can provide the reasoning if needed. Also, some other players probably see the same things I do and do not need to be convinced someone is scum. In this way none of us are sheep, but all independent bastions of town reading situations the same.
As I said, I do not need to be viewed as town for reasons that should be obvious to anyone paying attention.I believe I'm going to take a page out of Kant's book here and suggest that this should be rethought using the categorical imperative. Pro town play is what, if everyone does it, will result in best environment for scumhunting. What you are describing is a style of play that is inherently anti-town, and if everyone followed it, this game would devolve into an essentially random game of probabilities.
Saying that you don't need to be viewed as town is both wrong and will not help us in the long run. If you continue to vote and call people scummy without explanation, then you become infallible. This style is for scum only, and I cannot see any pro-town motivation behind it.
You can continue to get reactions in whatever style you want. You can yell in caps for the rest of the game for all I care. However, when you vote or express suspicion, you need to provide some sort of support.Use your head and think.I'm not asking anyone else to follow my style of play. Not that anyone could, anyway. This is not a mountainous game, and as such, pro-town play should not be followed black and white the same by every player, nor will the definition of what pro-town play is be agreed upon.
For instance the play I am describing is not inherently anti-town at all, and I'm sure others would agree/disagree with that.Fate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
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I could care less about parknourie when Andrius and NS scum are in my sights, and the Andrius wagon SHOULD've been nearing completion.Hoopla wrote:Actually, a more serious vote;
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Fate, what do you think about parknourie's ISO so far, and this post in particular;
parknourie wrote:I'm back...and find myself in a really confusing situation:
I'm still Positive on Andrew's guilt than any other player in this game. Contributing virtually nothing, yet with short-ass posts he is still around. Recently? He seems to be lurking the hell out of this room.
I'm staying put with my vote on Andrew for the moment.
I'm not at all worried by some nobody scum who'll get nailed D2 after I'm gone.Fate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
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Yes Flinter.
I claim the same role.
Since this is an open setup, it means I am claiming scum.
I am scum and know for a fact Andrius is 100%scum as is NS.
Now, let's go.Fate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
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Because Nobody Special does it regardless of alignment, though I've already called them scum together.
ANDRIUS on the other hand is ACTIVELY AVOIDING THIS GAME MY DEAR GOD HE IS AVOIDING IT SO HARD HE ISNT EVEN COMING IN TO DROP SOME EXCUSE AS TO WHY HE ISNT HERE HES JUST NOT SHOWING UP AND HOPING IT WILL BLOW OVERFate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
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I'm so glad I get to get revenge on Empkingscum.
In other news Andrius lost so many respect points its not even funny.
No more <3 Andrius, you're in trouble Mr.Fate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
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