Mini 1783: GTA 2 Mafia (GaME OVAH)

[Ircher]

Who the heck is Ircher.

My alt

Liar

[Ircher]

Anyone want to give me the cliffnotes? Ill catch up in full later.

[Ircher]

UNVOTE:

[Ircher]

Im gonna start trying to catch up now. It wont be fast though.

[Ircher]

Passed page 6.

Currently:

VOTE: Code
Magnus being my second top scumread.

[Ircher]

Alright, I want to lynch either Dragon or Ranger today. Im prob. not finishing my catchup today but those two both claiming investigative sticks out.

I'm sure at least one of them are lying.

For the cop -- Questions: 1) Is your sanity guaranteed 2) Did you really think you were gonna be lynched that early
For the watcher -- 1) Watcher is more often a Mafia role than a Town role. Your argument that watcher is immenseky helpful for town is useless if you arent a town watcher.

[Ircher]

VOTE: Dragon - For role madness, cop just seems overkill and too simple. Esp. if sane.

[Ircher]

Oh, and everyone should

totally

visit me N1.

[Ircher]

Im not an alt.

[Ircher]

If I were, Id be banned from the newbie queue.

[Ircher]

Dominator claimed that, thinking he was being funny.....

[Ircher]

See, DK, I played a game once where I was tracker and I confirmed nightactions, and then the next night townies died because I was a scum tracker. And there was a 3rd party dayvig. And a survivor. I don't know what to expect in games like this so I expect everything and nothing at the same time. (btw, this game was with my main so no link)

Spoiler:

The dayvig shot my 2 buddies but eventually shared the win with me, I was BP as well and due to flavour he couldn't shoot me. I was also protected and neighbourized by town in that game.

There is no information about whether or not there is a 3rd party, if there is I missed it, in that case point me to it. So we don't know. At least, I don't know.

I want to believe you re jeanne, but you're just not a strong enough townread for me rn.

And could you guys please keep signing your posts.

@Mod - Can we have a rule against:

Code: Select all

[spoiler]Blackout Tags[/spoiler]

Having to quote them to see them on mobile is super annoying.

[Ircher]

I like the Code wagon better tbh, esp. when the Dragon wagon has no traction
VOTE: Code

[Ircher]

Either we lynch Dragon or we lynch Code.

Ranger will surely be sorted out tonight.

[Ircher]

Ranger generally gets nk'd anyway as town, so thats why. I dont know your skill level though.

Join me on the Code wagon, pls.

[Ircher]

Nope, I havent. I havent finished catching up, plus you guys are somewhat difficult to follow

[Ircher]

Sheesh..... When I catchup, Ill decide on what person I want to lynch. Just wanted to see where this was going.

[Ircher]

Hey Ircher, what are your thoughts on the Ranger wagon? You said you wanted to lynch Dragon or Ranger, but now that Ranger picks up you forgot that sentiment entirely.

I was semi-joking when I said that, albeit the fact I dont believe both are town due to the claims.

[Ircher]

Yeah, okay, past page 20.

We're definitely not lynching Ranger today, and that's final.

[Ircher]

You dont lynch someone just cuz they have a string scum game. Ranger has an equally strong town game, so your point is?

Jeanne was scummy for lurking, generally, I'd like to PL any lurking slots. But, the slot claimed watcher -- not lynching a potentially useful role that is also a very powerful player D1.

[Ircher]

1. When I post my notes and point out of a few of your tunneling posts, I think you (might) understand
2. No arguing there, but still not lynching a skilled player that often gets nk'd as town anyone D1 just cuz they claim a role that is more often scum.

Past page 22. Saw Magna's stupid case(s) against Ranger. I gave responses to one of the walls in my notes.

VOTE: Magna

[Ircher]

Nothing good in last 5 pages... Finished catching up. Notes in a sec.

[Ircher]

Spoiler: Mini 1783 - Replacement Catchup Notes

1. 28 - Banter complains about RVS since they already caught BlackStar -

I didn't catch anything. Silly things happen including fake slips in RVS -- Don't make mountains out of molehills. -

Null-Scum-Indicative

2. 55 - Polar partially claims role (Ascetic) -

I guess this helps town some, but the claim by itself is simply --

Null-Indicative

3. 130 - L-1 vote on Dragon by Magna -

Okay, this isn't RVS, so why are you trying to Quicklynch? L-1 this early in the day phase are incredibly antitown. -

Null-Scum Indicative

4. 147 - According to Code, going from a few scum to 2 is backtracking -

This post is just wrong. Town are silly and uninformed. They'll occasionally sheep wagons for little to no reason. Trying to paint this as scum backtracking is bad because he might be implying that a few scum (which 2 is a few) might be leading it. That's an inference I've drawn, but just cuz the reasoning and the conclusion are not t8he same does not mean the person is wrong or necessarily scummy. They are stting their opinion on the wagon, and you really cant scumread for that. -

Scum-Indicative

5. 184 - Dragon claims Cop. -

Is your sanity guaranteed? -

Null-Scum Indicative

- I don't like this claim really as it's too easy to claim and possible it doesn't exist. It's role madness, so a sane cop just seems like it would completely break balance unless there's a godfather.

6. 385 - Jeanne Claims "Close to" Cop Role -

And this was relevant because? (Why'd I get the super boring role?) -

Null-Scum-Indicative

- Simply cuz timing is attrocious and as town, you shoudn't be telling scum who to NK.

7. 310 - Jeanne claims watcher. -

I would take this as a CC of Dragon's cop role. Traditionally, watcher tends to be a mafia role more often than not, yet at the same time, the earlier Cop claim seems bad. -

Null

8. 333 - Prod dodge by BBT -

Wouldn't take this as AI fyi. BBT catches up when he feels like it,and that's all there is to it. -

Null-Indicative

9. 365 - Banter wants o lynch Jeanne and investigate Polar -

That isn't a bad idea.... Except you told scum that -

Null-Indicative

10. 372 - Dragon says claim ascetic earlier -

Polar did. Stop looking for stupid reasons to lynch Polar for. -

Null-Scum Indicative

11. 410 - Black casts naked vote... -

Black sure has cast quite a few naked votes without any reasoning to follow. Not sure if this is lazy town or lazy scum though..... -

Null-Indicative

12. 463 - Dragon votes Ranger for just readlists with no reasons -

As annoying as it is, it's not really a scumtell.. Especially since 1) Ranger replaced in and is still catching up and 2) It's more likely a playstyle thing anyway and 3) Some of the better users on this site can capture scum without giving reasons why. This just looks like you trying to find whatever reason you can to get the claimed watcher slot lynched, which is just anti-town. If there was an actual case aside from 1) inactivity and 2) Ranger not providing reasons for reads until she finishes catching up, then I'd be less inclined to scumread you for this. -

Scum-Indicative

13. 472 - Ranger's catchup notes -

Maybe this will help me in reading you..... Yeah, I think I like those conclusions. And, they're the most comprehensible reasons and well-backed reasons I've seen so far in this thread. -

Town-Indicative

14. 491 - Polar's thoughts scourge (post before shows strong resistance to Ranger lynch) -

Some good points raised here. Now, if we could just have some elaborations on all our reads..... But, I do like these posts for towns, primarily cuz they are trying to scumhunt rather han engaging in stupid TvT or tunnels with no logical reasoning behind them. -

Town-Indicative

15. 494 - Dragon still adamant that Ranger is scum. -

Why? I've seen no case for it and yet you continue to push it. No evidence = No support. -

Null-Scum Indicative

16. 496 -

I know I oughtn't say this since I'm not a super good player, but do you know what confirmation bias is? I think not, as your adamant refusal to reconsider has no rationale basis -

Null-Town-Indicative

- because I'm starting to think you're just town making the stupid mistake of death tunneling a player....

17. 524 - Black claims always town -

Haha! Same here! And no, unfortunately this is still not my first scum game. -

Null-Indicative

18. 539 - Responses by Magna to Ranger -

This is pathetic, and not the same sort of pathetic as Dragon. Let's see: 1) Ranger wasn't pretending: she prob. quickly skimmed the recent section and therefore missed it 2) Watcher is by no means a weak pr for town or scum. 3) I guess clarification is fine, though it feels like you are just looking for more fodder to use against Ranger 4) Not thinking about wagon compositions is not a scumtell. It's an easy "mistake" to make when not paying close ttention. 5) Cop is strong, but has a lot of nerfs to it (sanity, godfather, framer, miller, ascetic.......). Doc I will agree is a very strong role all the tome. Vigilante is not a strong role at all; fun: yes, good utility for town: absolutely not. Watcher is less powerful than a role cop, but more powerful than tracker making it a powerful mid-tier role. 6) Watcher is an investigative role just as much as Cop. I don't see why you are ok with one's lynch yet adamantly against the other one, esp. since the one you are for is being more productive than the one you are against. - This just reads as scum trying to setup mislynches -

Very Scum-Indicative

My reads are fyi, not solely based on this, but those I comment more frequently tend to be my stronger (typically scum) reads.

And yes, you SHOULD read this and anything else I put in spoilers before you ask me for clarifications on my stance.

Magna's still my top scumread, with Scourge 2nd and FA_Q2 3rd.

Ranger is my top townread with Dragon (unfortunately) second and Polar 3rd.

[Ircher]

Spoiler: Reads

Confirmed Town

(From my perspective) (98%-100% Confidence)
Ircher  (100%) - Role PM

Likely Town

(85%-97% Confidence)
Ranger (93%) - Claim timing was unwarranted. Lurking != Scum, so I can excuse Jeanne's play. Ranger has done a good deal of scumhunting having replaced in, so therefore, I'm leaning town. Finally, all the reasons to lynch her are either very weak or just plain stupid. We are not lynching this slot D1. I might reconsider D2, but we're not lynching the scumhunting, logical, un-counterclaimed watcher.
Dragon (91%) - I have no reason to townread this slot aside from the claim which I still think was easy to make and very survivalistic and the fact that I think they truly believe that Ranger is scum, despite their awful reasoning. Motive IS a tell, and this slot seems to have the town motive and doing stuff typical of being town, so that's why a townread despite all odds.
Polar (90%) - Next to Ranger, I really like this slot... a lot. Scumhunting, using logical and rationale thought, and keeping an open perspective that is less prone to bias. Definitely wouldn't lynch this slot D1. Also, reminder that this slot claimed to be ascetic.

Leaning Town

(60%-84% Confidence)
BBT (83%) - Meta tell. Last time I played with this slot, he was just as "lazy", biased, and in general, doing things at his own pace the way he wanted. He was town that game, so probably same here. Would like more though.
Banter (75%) - This slot is okay. Few quelms early game, but overall, they seem to be fine. Would note that their activity has dropped recently though.

Null

(0% - 30% Confidence; No/Very Weak Read)
Masq (0%) - Pls post more and stop lurking.
FA_Q2 (0%) - Earlier said 3rd pick -- Forgot about code when I said that. This slot also needs to stop lurking.

Neutral

(31%-59% Confidence; Mixed Read)
Black (+55%) - Some... interesting things from this slot early game. Feel like the slot was being genuine with his reactions, but haven't seen too much effort to find scum.
Dom (+35%) - I'll state that this slot seems to be active lurking right now, and isn't being useful. Nonetheless, I'm inclined to err on the side of town cuz of early game.
Code (-45%) - This slot is barely doing anything and rather disappointing. The few things they have done read as more likely to have a scum motive than a town one. Still, not top priority right now.

Leaning Scum

(60%-75% Confidence)
Scourge (-60%) - This slot is also not really contributing and tbh, I feel that the few times they have contributed, it was always after the weakest links they could break with minimal suspicion being cast.

Likely Scum

(76%-100% Confidence)
Magna (-90%) - Like Dragon, insists on lynching Ranger. Unlike Dragon, unwilling to compromise for nothing, not committed to aforementioned read (didnt vote for at least 10 pages despite constantly bring it up), and busy searching for stupid reasons to scumread Ranger for. And said reasons are worse than Dragon's as they have ZERO evidence backing them.

[Ircher]

Those are the WORST catchup notes I've ever seen. If this game doesn't turning around, im replacing out. This is without a doubt the worst town (unless all of the active ones are scum) I've ever seen.

FB is already pissed at you anyways. Stop sucking, guys.

PEdit: You... Prove my point. If that's all it takes for you to townread someone, you're either crappy town or scum.

I don't think your in a position to judge considering how poir your play has also been this game, Just my 2 cents.

[Ircher]

Lets lynch Magna. Its imo def. the better lynch regardless of whether you think Ranger is scum cuz we're not lynching an outed, potentially very useful, investigative role that is actually contributing to discussion.

[Ircher]

And no, I'm not a very strong town player. Looking at my meta would show that. I've been mislynched a lot cuz I do things that dont make sense/are bad. BBut, you're not perfect too, so you should try to be nicer and more humble rather than insisting you are always right and anyone who disagrees is dumb.

Pride is the root of all evil.

[Ircher]

Ircher, Ranger is quite good at faking a town game, and her slot, Jeanne, was 5 billion percent scum. She is a very good lynch.

Couple things here. First, Ranger is not likely scum. Jeanne also does not keep claims to herself much. Her claiming after a full cop claim isn't scummy at all, since multiple cop like roles rarely exist in the same setup.

Counterpoint YCBA IV

. The reference by Jeanne was a call to me specifically. I was a little wierded by it but given Jeanne's full claim the reach to me made sense. She wanted someone to know she was counterclaiming.

What should be more alarming is that Ranger has suddenly jumped to top townread

after I pushed Ircher to make a decision

. The reasons that Ircher provides are solely related to the claim by Jeanne. Same with he reasons for DK being town. He was aware of both claims being what they were when I began pushing him. Ranger was right to see who was jumping on the wagon but missed this glaring inconsistent retreat by Ircher. Ircher didn't have reasons to townread Ranger based on play. The townread is likely because there are too many scum on Ranger's wagon.

VOTE: Ircher

Go learn to read!
I can tell you just skimmed and didn't bother paying attn, otherwise you wouldn't be making such accusations such as "Reading Ranger solely on Jeanne's claim" -- That couldn't be any further from the truth.

[Ircher]

I'm not reading super in depth all I know is that I'll compromise on dom most likely. Ranger and DK shouldn't be lynched today under any circumstances (town reading them and they claim important roles) so yea

~Dwlee

How about Magnus?

Or Code who obviously bothers not to read and then starts throwing invalid accusations as people?

[Ircher]

Spoiler: Reads

Confirmed Town

(From my perspective) (98%-100% Confidence)
Ircher  (100%) - Role PM

Likely Town

(85%-97% Confidence)
Ranger (93%) - Claim timing was unwarranted. Lurking != Scum, so I can excuse Jeanne's play. Ranger has done

a good deal of scumhunting having replaced in,

so therefore, I'm leaning town. Finally, all the reasons to lynch her are either very weak or just plain stupid. We are not lynching this slot D1. I might reconsider D2, but we're not lynching the scumhunting, logical, un-counterclaimed watcher.
Dragon (91%) - I have no reason to townread this slot aside from the claim which I still think was easy to make and very survivalistic and the fact that I think they truly believe that Ranger is scum, despite their awful reasoning. Motive IS a tell, and this slot seems to have the town motive and doing stuff typical of being town, so that's why a townread despite all odds.
Polar (90%) - Next to Ranger, I really like this slot... a lot. Scumhunting, using logical and rationale thought, and keeping an open perspective that is less prone to bias. Definitely wouldn't lynch this slot D1. Also, reminder that this slot claimed to be ascetic.

Leaning Town

(60%-84% Confidence)
BBT (83%) - Meta tell. Last time I played with this slot, he was just as "lazy", biased, and in general, doing things at his own pace the way he wanted. He was town that game, so probably same here. Would like more though.
Banter (75%) - This slot is okay. Few quelms early game, but overall, they seem to be fine. Would note that their activity has dropped recently though.

Null

(0% - 30% Confidence; No/Very Weak Read)
Masq (0%) - Pls post more and stop lurking.
FA_Q2 (0%) - Earlier said 3rd pick -- Forgot about code when I said that. This slot also needs to stop lurking.

Neutral

(31%-59% Confidence; Mixed Read)
Black (+55%) - Some... interesting things from this slot early game. Feel like the slot was being genuine with his reactions, but haven't seen too much effort to find scum.
Dom (+35%) - I'll state that this slot seems to be active lurking right now, and isn't being useful. Nonetheless, I'm inclined to err on the side of town cuz of early game.
Code (-45%) - This slot is barely doing anything and rather disappointing. The few things they have done read as more likely to have a scum motive than a town one. Still, not top priority right now.

Leaning Scum

(60%-75% Confidence)
Scourge (-60%) - This slot is also not really contributing and tbh, I feel that the few times they have contributed, it was always after the weakest links they could break with minimal suspicion being cast.

Likely Scum

(76%-100% Confidence)
Magna (-90%) - Like Dragon, insists on lynching Ranger. Unlike Dragon, unwilling to compromise for nothing, not committed to aforementioned read (didnt vote for at least 10 pages despite constantly bring it up), and busy searching for stupid reasons to scumread Ranger for. And said reasons are worse than Dragon's as they have ZERO evidence backing them.

Look at what I bolded. Its not hard to know that my read isnt solely based on the claim.

[Ircher]

Oh, and the part thats wrong with the bolded: I wasn't finished catching up then.

[Ircher]

So this is Titus....

@Code
You can complain all you want about me today, but the lynch is unlikely.

You can join the Magna wagon or the Ranger wagon; good luck woth any other wagon

[Ircher]

Spoiler: Reads

Confirmed Town

(From my perspective) (98%-100% Confidence)
Ircher  (100%) - Role PM

Likely Town

(85%-97% Confidence)
Ranger (93%) - Claim timing was unwarranted. Lurking != Scum, so I can excuse Jeanne's play. Ranger has done a good deal of scumhunting having replaced in, so therefore, I'm leaning town. Finally, all the reasons to lynch her are either very weak or just plain stupid. We are not lynching this slot D1. I might reconsider D2, but we're not lynching the scumhunting, logical, un-counterclaimed watcher.
Dragon (91%) - I have no reason to townread this slot aside from the claim which I still think was easy to make and very survivalistic and the fact that I think they truly believe that Ranger is scum, despite their awful reasoning. Motive IS a tell, and this slot seems to have the town motive and doing stuff typical of being town, so that's why a townread despite all odds.
Polar (90%) - Next to Ranger, I really like this slot... a lot. Scumhunting, using logical and rationale thought, and keeping an open perspective that is less prone to bias. Definitely wouldn't lynch this slot D1. Also, reminder that this slot claimed to be ascetic.

Leaning Town

(60%-84% Confidence)
BBT (83%) - Meta tell. Last time I played with this slot, he was just as "lazy", biased, and in general, doing things at his own pace the way he wanted. He was town that game, so probably same here. Would like more though.
Banter (75%) - This slot is okay. Few quelms early game, but overall, they seem to be fine. Would note that their activity has dropped recently though.

Null

(0% - 30% Confidence; No/Very Weak Read)
Masq (0%) - Pls post more and stop lurking.
FA_Q2 (0%) - Earlier said 3rd pick -- Forgot about code when I said that. This slot also needs to stop lurking.

Neutral

(31%-59% Confidence; Mixed Read)
Black (+55%) - Some... interesting things from this slot early game. Feel like the slot was being genuine with his reactions, but haven't seen too much effort to find scum.
Dom (+35%) - I'll state that this slot seems to be active lurking right now, and isn't being useful. Nonetheless, I'm inclined to err on the side of town cuz of early game.
Code (-45%) - This slot is barely doing anything and rather disappointing. The few things they have done read as more likely to have a scum motive than a town one. Still, not top priority right now.

Leaning Scum

(60%-75% Confidence)
Scourge (-60%) - This slot is also not really contributing and tbh, I feel that the few times they have contributed, it was always after the weakest links they could break with minimal suspicion being cast.

Likely Scum

(76%-100% Confidence)
Magna (-90%) - Like Dragon, insists on lynching Ranger. Unlike Dragon, unwilling to compromise for nothing, not committed to aforementioned read (didnt vote for at least 10 pages despite constantly bring it up), and busy searching for stupid reasons to scumread Ranger for. And said reasons are worse than Dragon's as they have ZERO evidence backing them.

Let's break down why this reads list is terrible.

First section, his largest townreads are not for their play. He says Ranger is off the table for today, based on their claim, not based on play. That's inconsistent with a 90% townread. DK also isn't town by play according to Ircher. He previously said both claims are unlikely to be town, but he takes zero opportunity to pressure or investigate Ranger when a wagon arises. These posts reek of the very concern Ranger had on me (which is why I was pressuring Ircher)

No, this is a lie. I like Ranger's play amd how she's actually scumhunting, can you not read??? With Dragon, the claim holds a lot of weight, but I feel his motives are genuine. Stop misrepping me so much.

Polar also isn't based on play. Polar is based on a style that reduces bias. Well guess what, play style is not alignment indicative at all. During his catchup actually talking about specifics, Polar was scum. Here's another oooh claim cannot lynch D1. Given the reason why Ircher says Polar is town, I am relatively confident Polar is town with wrong reads and Ircher is budding here.

I'm town. Always town. You cannot dispute such a fact! But seriously, not buddying. I rarely comment on town stuff in my catchup notes etc cuz it sounds pretty dumb when I put it in words. As far as playstyle being null, I guess that's true, but I still keep my read as the playstyle seems to be one more likely from town than scum.

He's also done ooh lurking bullshit repeatedly. I know I was VLA (not sure on the others), yet the lurking thing is applied wholly selectively. The next few reads are "doing nothing" yet get assigned values through RNG.

Masq and FA I gave 0% for practically doing nothing. I commented why I was one way or another for the pthers. And, I am not lurking. My preddecessor, yes, but me, absolutely not. Stop being ridiculous. Finally, the numbers -- Okay, sometimes, the numbers are semi-random (but note, never generated by a RNG), but the numbers mean relative confidence generally.... Except for confirmed town reads cuz well.... They're confirmed!

Then we get to the sole read based on play. Magua. This read boils down to the Ranger push is one I disagree with and therefore cannot be town motivated. It's also heavily discrediting a scumread on Ranger despite Ircher's words indicating a much weaker townread.

This is not a catchup of someone scumhunting at all.

I even addressed one of his walls, and yet you say MY townread of Ranger is weak? Go get some rest and then we can talk.

[Ircher]

So this is Titus....

@Code
You can complain all you want about me today, but the lynch is unlikely.

You can join the Magna wagon or the Ranger wagon; good luck woth any other wagon

Nah. Those wagons both suck. Ranger has a remote chance of being a partner but I want you or FA primarily. I don't think I would hammer Magua at deadline given how much I want you gone.

Thanks for telling me you won't bus. Also, why did it matter for you to state which head was posting before trying to discourage a wagon on yourself.

~Titus

Cuz you've played with me before..... And I can't believe you are being so ridiculous.

[Ircher]

Can you not freaking read a readlist???? That has been quoted thrice by now????

[Ircher]

You dont lynch someone just cuz they have a string scum game. Ranger has an equally strong town game, so your point is?

Jeanne was scummy for lurking, generally, I'd like to PL any lurking slots. But, the slot claimed watcher -- not lynching a potentially useful role that is also a very powerful player D1.

So we should PL half the game? Good idea

To clarify: Those who are doing extensive lurking: FA and Masq rn.

But, why are you guys being so keen on spotting the "slightest" flaw. And am I pushing for a PL roght now? I dont think so.

[Ircher]

Nope, you read it wrong. For the neutral and null reads, you gotta pay attn to the sign at the beginning. Your on town side cuz of your ealy-game play.

[Ircher]

Ircher, saying the phrase "scumhunting" is a vacuum buzzword. It means nothing. As for addressing a Ranger wall, I cannot see it. You haven't elaborated on why Ranger's town at all. Even now, your position is Ranger or Magua must die. Yet, rather than address why those MUST be the lynches for today, you're just discrediting my observations on you. You don't defend why Ranger is a viable wagon to you despite being a top townread or why Magua is a good scumread.

If you think Magua is such a good scumread, why are you placing zero effort to lynch her?

If you think Ranger is town, why do you leave Ranger as a viable wagon despite being supposedly against their lynch today?

~Titus

I said Magna wall illustratong why all the points against Ranger are rather void and poor.

[Ircher]

As to viable wagons: Not my choice, ask all the people voting Ranger why thats the case. Magna and Dragon seem intent on the Ranger lynch; Ask them

[Ircher]

You dont lynch someone just cuz they have a string scum game. Ranger has an equally strong town game, so your point is?

Jeanne was scummy for lurking, generally, I'd like to PL any lurking slots. But, the slot claimed watcher -- not lynching a potentially useful role that is also a very powerful player D1.

So we should PL half the game? Good idea

To clarify: Those who are doing extensive lurking: FA and Masq rn.

But, why are you guys being so keen on spotting the "slightest" flaw. And am I pushing for a PL roght now? I dont think so.

Oh you just want to lynch people because they disagree with you. My bad.

Stop with the sarcasm. Ive yet to express a scumread on you... Dont make me change my mind.

[Ircher]

Your the same person who claimed I was your alt. I dont have time to put up with you.

[Ircher]

@Code
Just how far are you gonna go to try to misrep me?

Pedit: Yes, that's true, but the reasons that Magna has given seem to have some thought put into them, to make them look good, but when you examine them a bit closer, they're ridiculous. In other words, they are trying to push an easy lynch on Ranger.

Pedit2: @Dom - Just shut up if you cannot read, okay? You're not even trying to understand my perspective.

Pedit3: @Code - I cannot control other players opinions. It's nearly deadline; the only two who have a decent chance to be lynched are Magna and Ranger. I've akready expressed my views on the though I cannot argue with facts like that.

[Ircher]

Hey Titus, go do me a favor:

Go review Ice Cream Mafia (1769) and tell me if this does or does not resemble my play there. Ok, thanks!

[Ircher]

This is 100% scum!titus

Which head is this? Sign please. It will help me determine your alignment. Pretty sure FA and Ircher are scum, BBT, Polar, Ranger, Magua are town. So I would like to determine if you're dumb or scum.

Hey Titus, go do me a favor:

Go review Ice Cream Mafia (1769) and tell me if this does or does not resemble my play there. Ok, thanks!

[Ircher]

I'm leaning toward town Titus rn tbh though.... He was this way in Ice Cream Mafia too last time I remember

[Ircher]

I'm leaning toward town Titus rn tbh though.... She was this way in Ice Cream Mafia too last time I remember

Stry, EBWOP

[Ircher]

@Banter
What's your thoughts on Magna?

[Ircher]

Yep, there you go, Titus's "Why Me? Fry Me" Scumtell.

[Ircher]

By TvT I mainly meant strong arguments, as though tend to be in my experience TvTs.

[Ircher]

I would lynch Code, but his play kinda makes me think of his townplay in the other game I played with him.

[Ircher]

I always forget.....

[Ircher]

What's the current VC?

[Ircher]

Hmmm... My current stance is if deadline is really close, Ill hammer, but otherwise, I'd prefer someone else (Magna)

[Ircher]

As much as I wish to say Code is scum, I have my doubts; for meta reasons.

[Ircher]

Absolutely NO ONE should target me tonight.

[Ircher]

Though, I wouldn't mind a neighborhood....

[Ircher]

I think I have already. Mainly the last game I played with Titus, Titus had very strong opinions that he basically clung to the whole game, even if they were wrong.

[Ircher]

Anyone could do that as town or scum though

Indeed, true, which is why I still hold a scumread, but obviously, it makes me reconsider the motive behind their posts.

[Ircher]

Hmph.

Spineless coward.

Code of Honor was online.
They haven't posted a claim in spite of intent.

They're scum.

Banterlords is super duper town with that unvote btw

Bearbert

I agree with both these statements!

[Ircher]

I am mad I can't even call ds / firebringer an idiot because THEY DONT FUCKING SIGN /rant
~Dwlee
pedit that is great we're letting them claim
I am just like my country, I am young scrappy and hungry

pedit and yet I get mislynched very frequently. mm k

Join the mislynch club

[Ircher]

So, umm....

@Code -- Claim

If you dont soon, we'll take it as a scum trying to concoct fakeclaims

[Ircher]

Emphasis.

[Ircher]

I thought my role was the most boring... VT, really?

@Titus
I dont plan on lynching BBT any time soon, so we agree there.

[Ircher]

@DK -- Not signing is super annoying;

Stop being lazy and just sign

rather than use it as a scumtell.

It's not that it will make a difference for me. But, its 1) A rule and 2) Several other players have asked you to do so. So, pls do it, and again,

don't use it as a scumtell

[Ircher]

No, let's lynch Magna. We're not lynching the unCC'd watcher D1.

[Ircher]

Bye Ranger:/ We will miss you.
DK was a lyncher. Wow. Glad they're dead though

VOTE: Magnaofillusion<--- there are so many reasons why he fits as a Code partner.

First: Code didn't fight for his survival. That leads me to think the other wagon(Magna) was also scum. He didn't want to lynch Magna not because he liked him, but because he didn't like Ircher who was attacking Magna. That means defending his partner without really defending.
Second: The chainsaw on Ircher was ridiculous. Code was in a good position before he went after Ircher. Why did he need to go after Ircher in such a bad way? They could have left their heads down and not stick out that much. I think Code was getting scared of a Magna lynch where the momentum was going.
Third: Read the flavor for Code's flip. It says that the other scum is their boss. That would be a good idea why Code preferred to be lynched instead of Magna.
Fourth: Ranger is dead. Ranger was the leader of the Magna wagon.
Fifth(not related): I think we've got a serial killer in the game. I believe Ranger was killed by the scum and DK by the Sk. Another theory would suggest Ranger being killed by DK but that makes absolutely no sense with DK's lyncher role.

Bearbert D

My olay is in general read as scummy. Code prob. tried to use that knowledge to their advantage.

[Ircher]

Out of curiosity, did anyone visit me last night? (PS: If you answer, answer that question only)

I'd still support a Magna lynch right now, fyi. Gotta think on who else is scum and the SK though.

[Ircher]

Back for V/LA –

Well just a quick scan of thread tells me I don’t have time to mess around with this stupid wagon on me. So I’m claiming.

I’m and Informed Survivor (SMS Computer Algorithm). That’s right I’m 3rd party. I win if I survive til the end of the game regardless of who wins. I got three pieces of information in my role PM about the set-up itself.

1. There is a lyncher in the game.
2. There are two 3rd Parties in game.
3. There are at least three different possible kill sources in the game.

My play surrounding Ranger was 100% based on the fact that his lazy call of me as 100% scum without so much as building a case was a strong player replacing into the lyncher slot with me as the target. Now that Diamond has actually flipped that role and is still a non-3rd party (argue if you want but Semi-Town is still Town) I’m in agreement we have a Serial Killer in the game. Because if the other lyncher was not 3rd Party I don’t see any other reasonable non-Bastard roles that fulfill the second piece of information (since I am the first 3rd Party role).

If you want some breadcrumbing from me go to 512 and note my comment to Banter regarding 3rd Parties not being in a Mini game.

And I’m personally pretty sure I’ve already pointed out who the last Mafia member is.

VOTE: Dom

481 is a classic scum oops where he forgets that Town doesn’t know his scum team is only two players. And the hop on Code at 902 when the issue was already decided is literally worst last second bussing ever. Maybe on the off chance Dom is the Serial Killer but I’m fairly confident he’s the Mafia boss.

First: Code didn't fight for his survival. That leads me to think the other wagon(Magna) was also scum. He didn't want to lynch Magna not because he liked him, but because he didn't like Ircher who was attacking Magna. That means defending his partner without really defending.
Second: The chainsaw on Ircher was ridiculous. Code was in a good position before he went after Ircher. Why did he need to go after Ircher in such a bad way? They could have left their heads down and not stick out that much. I think Code was getting scared of a Magna lynch where the momentum was going.
Third: Read the flavor for Code's flip. It says that the other scum is their boss. That would be a good idea why Code preferred to be lynched instead of Magna.
Fourth: Ranger is dead. Ranger was the leader of the Magna wagon.
Fifth(not related): I think we've got a serial killer in the game. I believe Ranger was killed by the scum and DK by the Sk. Another theory would suggest Ranger being killed by DK but that makes absolutely no sense with DK's lyncher role.

Yeah this is bad. Bearbert if you seriously think the best method for one two-man Mafia team to deal with each other is when both are under fairly solid suspicion is to call each other strong Town reads then I can’t help you. Perhaps a trip back to the Newbie queue would do you good.

I will add I think it is funny you basically said “Ranger will get worked out overnight” which means you expected her death due to the claim and then when that happens the only logical reason is that she suspected me.

Faq, I'm going to get back to you on BBT but first want to do this.

VOTE: magna
It's Monday.

Yeah on the off chance I am wrong about Dom this should be the next lynch looking for the Mafia boss. The whole dance around “Well Magna is V/LA so no need to turbo lynch” combined with this vote literally 9 hours into today reads as scum who knows I’m not flipping Mafia and wanted to look Town for being careful.

We're not lynching a claimed survivor right now.

[Ircher]

I like rhe Dom case right now; sheeping:
VOTE: Dom

[Ircher]

Would massclaim be a bad idea right now?

[Ircher]

Thats stupid imo.

The flavor is prob. flavor; stop throwing mod wifom in.

[Ircher]

They do better than Mafia + Alignment Cop

[Ircher]

@Polar
How do you know there is a cop?

You claimed reflexive poisoner, right? How do we know you aren't TPR SK or Mafia?

[Ircher]

A reflexive poisoner is imo not obvtown. I will scratch the mafia possibility though -- No reason for you to claim. But, I stuill entertain the TPR idea....

But, we're not wasting a lynch on you since you're dying anyway

[Ircher]

D1 was good. D2 has me questioning though.

[Ircher]

BBT wasn't wildly suspected; in fact, he was rather townread. That's a good reason for a SK or scum to get rid of him.

[Ircher]

Cop? Seriously?

I dont believe it tbh.

[Ircher]

Someone hammer:

VOTE: Dom

L-1

Pedit: Hammer

[Ircher]

VOTE: Magna

Claimed TPR

[Ircher]

Massclaim today. I'll start.

I am a banner. My role is basically Town 1-Shot BP Reflexive Friendly Neighbor

- My BP however goes away if I'm visited in any way.

[Ircher]

Actually, there was two kills N1....

UNVOTE:

[Ircher]

Lets massclaim....

[Ircher]

Just so we know where we stand....

[Ircher]

Ok....

FA_Q2 claim next

[Ircher]

Ah, ok. I see -- Havent done it too much before...

[Ircher]

Also, @Masq

Polar was a delayed kill from the previous night?.. By DK I believe

[Ircher]

Well, I, basically conftown.

[Ircher]

popcorn klingon for being a stick in the mud about claiming

Klingon -- Your turn to claim

(Bolding so he doesnt miss it)

[Ircher]

*2

Mafia is prob dead though.

[Ircher]

Someone said there was 2 TPRs. DK doesnt count for that purpose because he was semitown.

[Ircher]

Magna said so when he claimed Survivor D2

[Ircher]

Which is why we lynch magna today.

[Ircher]

Klingon has 12 hrs to claim or we'll lynch him.

[Ircher]

So, if no one has targeted me yet, then that means I still have my bp.

[Ircher]

Yes, I am. Since no one has targeted me yet, one of you guys target me tonight and I'm confirmed. I still got the bp, so scum can't kill me.

[Ircher]

So,

if

no one has targeted me yet, then that means I still have my bp.

As a reflexive neighbor you should KNOW if you were targeted.

Several of these claims are just bad.

That's an outrageous claim. Show me 3 games where this is the case.

[Ircher]

Reflexive FRIENDLY Neighbor

[Ircher]

For now, you should consider it as so, as we arent in lylo/mylo right now, so someone can sort me in due time.

[Ircher]

Can someone consolidate all the claims in 1 post?

[Ircher]

I'm inclined to disbelieve the role cop.

[Ircher]

Role cop is more useful for scum, but on 2nd thought, this is role madness, so it may still be useful for town.

[Ircher]

Probably Dom

[Ircher]

Roleflips so far:
Code Ninja rolecop 2x (scum)
Ranger Watcher lynchee (town)
DK JOAT 1-shot BP flamethrower molotov 1-shot strongman lyncher (semi-town)
BBT 2-shot BP (town)
Dom Full BP strongman drugdealer (scum)
Polar Reflexive poisoner (town)

In order of claiming:
Magna (pre-massclaim) Informed survivor
Ircher 1-shot bp reflexive friednly neighbour
Faq II Rolecop
Dwlee Even-night hider
Klingon Modified ascetic
Masq Roleblocker
Blackstar Commuter, but doesn't commute himself but makes others commute

Thought I'd put in everything together..

Actions:

N1: Ranger and DK were NK'd. DK set Polar on fire. Scourge and BBT were RB'd.
D2: BBT is Dayvigged
N2: Dwlee targeted ??? and was RB'd (That's suspicious).
Polar Vortex dies from DK's flames.
No NK's.
Magna was RB'd.

[Ircher]

I want Klingon to tell us more than Modified Ascetic & also claim flavor name.

[Ircher]

The suspicious part is you knew you were RB'd. Last time I checked, Hiders weren't told that sort of info.

[Ircher]

Back for V/LA –

Well just a quick scan of thread tells me I don’t have time to mess around with this stupid wagon on me. So I’m claiming.

I’m and Informed Survivor (SMS Computer Algorithm). That’s right I’m 3rd party. I win if I survive til the end of the game regardless of who wins. I got three pieces of information in my role PM about the set-up itself.

1. There is a lyncher in the game.
2. There are two 3rd Parties in game.
3. There are at least three different possible kill sources in the game.

My play surrounding Ranger was 100% based on the fact that his lazy call of me as 100% scum without so much as building a case was a strong player replacing into the lyncher slot with me as the target. Now that Diamond has actually flipped that role and is still a non-3rd party (argue if you want but Semi-Town is still Town) I’m in agreement we have a Serial Killer in the game. Because if the other lyncher was not 3rd Party I don’t see any other reasonable non-Bastard roles that fulfill the second piece of information (since I am the first 3rd Party role).

If you want some breadcrumbing from me go to 512 and note my comment to Banter regarding 3rd Parties not being in a Mini game.

And I’m personally pretty sure I’ve already pointed out who the last Mafia member is.

VOTE: Dom

481 is a classic scum oops where he forgets that Town doesn’t know his scum team is only two players. And the hop on Code at 902 when the issue was already decided is literally worst last second bussing ever. Maybe on the off chance Dom is the Serial Killer but I’m fairly confident he’s the Mafia boss.

First: Code didn't fight for his survival. That leads me to think the other wagon(Magna) was also scum. He didn't want to lynch Magna not because he liked him, but because he didn't like Ircher who was attacking Magna. That means defending his partner without really defending.
Second: The chainsaw on Ircher was ridiculous. Code was in a good position before he went after Ircher. Why did he need to go after Ircher in such a bad way? They could have left their heads down and not stick out that much. I think Code was getting scared of a Magna lynch where the momentum was going.
Third: Read the flavor for Code's flip. It says that the other scum is their boss. That would be a good idea why Code preferred to be lynched instead of Magna.
Fourth: Ranger is dead. Ranger was the leader of the Magna wagon.
Fifth(not related): I think we've got a serial killer in the game. I believe Ranger was killed by the scum and DK by the Sk. Another theory would suggest Ranger being killed by DK but that makes absolutely no sense with DK's lyncher role.

Yeah this is bad. Bearbert if you seriously think the best method for one two-man Mafia team to deal with each other is when both are under fairly solid suspicion is to call each other strong Town reads then I can’t help you. Perhaps a trip back to the Newbie queue would do you good.

I will add I think it is funny you basically said “Ranger will get worked out overnight” which means you expected her death due to the claim and then when that happens the only logical reason is that she suspected me.

Faq, I'm going to get back to you on BBT but first want to do this.

VOTE: magna
It's Monday.

Yeah on the off chance I am wrong about Dom this should be the next lynch looking for the Mafia boss. The whole dance around “Well Magna is V/LA so no need to turbo lynch” combined with this vote literally 9 hours into today reads as scum who knows I’m not flipping Mafia and wanted to look Town for being careful.

Who's the third killer?

[Ircher]

Roleflips so far:
Code Ninja rolecop 2x (scum)
Ranger Watcher lynchee (town)
DK JOAT 1-shot BP flamethrower molotov 1-shot strongman lyncher (semi-town)
BBT 2-shot BP (town)
Dom Full BP strongman drugdealer (scum)
Polar Reflexive poisoner (town)

In order of claiming:
Magna (pre-massclaim) Informed survivor
Ircher 1-shot bp reflexive friednly neighbour
Faq II Rolecop
Dwlee Even-night hider
Klingon Modified ascetic
Masq Roleblocker
Blackstar Commuter, but doesn't commute himself but makes others commute

Thought I'd put in everything together..

Actions:

N1: Ranger and DK were NK'd. DK set Polar on fire. Scourge and BBT were RB'd by Masq. Dwlee was commuted by Blackstar.
D2: BBT is Dayvigged
N2: Dwlee targeted Masq and was commuted.
Polar Vortex dies from DK's flames.
No NK's.
Blackstar commuted Dwlee.
Magna was RB'd by Masq.

FA_Q2 ought to claim results.

[Ircher]

Code of Honor has been lynched.

They were...

Spoiler: Who were they?

ZAIBATSU

Welcome to GTA2 Mafia, Code of Honor!

You are

The Mute

, a courier and bodyguard in the

Zaibatsu conglomerate

.

Smooth as can be, and being oh-me-so-poor mute allows you to fly completely under the radar of the cops and the other gangs. You can easily blend within groups and spy for your leaders.

Your abilities:

Your inflitration capabilities are just amazing. You're able to spy wherever needed and go unnoticed.
1. If you are the one making the nightly ZAIBATSU kill, you go unnoticed - a

Ninja kill

.
2. Every night, you may use your sneaking abilities to

Rolecop TWO people.

3. Oh and, of course, your fellow mate, your Boss, your everything - Uno Carb is <player>.
You two may talk <HERE> anytime. Each night, only one of you may perform a nightkill.

You win when the Zaibatsu have eliminated all competition, or nothing can stop that from happening.

Good luck! and remember...

Respect is Everything.

Code of Honor

was

The Mute

, a courier and bodyguard in the Zaibatsu Conglomerate.

Night 1 has started.
Deadline is in (expired on 2016-04-24 09:30:00).

Please send any action(s) to Equinox and shos.

Night 1 has Ended.
As expected, chaos runs the streets.
Blood and fires everywhere; cops and firefighters are seen everywhere.
What the hell happened here?!

Jesus. In two weeks over 3000 police cases have been opened. Two will be presented here.

Case #3071

A loud BANG was heard in the middle of the highway. There are reports of multiple cars exploding as collateral damage, and at least 10 more deaths. Three fires have erupted. Two Medicars, one Firetruck and one Police car are on their way.

But...collateral damage to what?

It seems one of the deaths was the center of the explosion. That guy...his arms are 50 feet apart. Seems like the head is on top of the liqour store's roof nearby. These signs clearly point to a grenade explosion.

Spoiler: The casualty's identity..

Welcome to GTA2 Mafia, Ranger!

You are the

Sewer Facilities

of Anywhere City, in the Residential District, and aligned with the town.

This city is massive, and people...shit. You are the only one who gladly takes all that shit. It's warm and fuzzy, I can understand you, you know.

Your abilities:

Each night, you may choose a person. You will watch that person from the sewers, and be able to see him through and through without him seeing you. You will be informed of

anyone who had targetted that person.

You win when all the danger in Anywhere City is dealt with.

Good luck! and remember...

Respect is Everything.

Ranger is dead. He was a town Watcher.

Case #3072

Another, even larger BANG sound horrified the south-east side of the commercial area of the city. Near the Docks, it seems a BAZOOKA was fired; but is this organized crime related? It appears that it wasn't targetted at one of those "normal" targets - you know - drug trucks, police vehicles, mafia deliveries...No. This was targetted at a PERSON. Wow.

Spoiler: Who was blown to smithereens?!

Welcome to GTA2 Mafia, Dragon Knight!

You are a

disrespectful-behaviour-motivated Yakuza gangster

, who's pissed at one rival, and who will do anything to painfully kill him.

Gangs or not, some things are not to be FUCKED WITH. You, you are one of those things.
And this guy. He fucked with you. What he did is absurd. Inappropriate. Disrespectful. They must pay. With tears and blood.

Your abilities:

For your Vendetta march, you grab

a BP vest,

a

Flamethrower

, some

Molotov Cocktails

, and just in case,

Double Damage

. Your BP vests will save you

once from any kind of death.

At one night during the game, you may burn someone. They will slowly

burn

in agony and die after the NEXT night. They will be told they are on fire.
At one day during the game, you may throw your Molotov on someone. They will

explode

the fuck out of this City.
Each of these kills has to be sent to me with a declaration whether or not you use your one-shot Dobule Damage. Usage of that will make the kill a

strongman kill

.

You win if Ranger, who disrespected you, is LYNCHED, painfully, AND you survive to see the ZAIBATSU dead.

This is the only way people will learn to respect your ass.

Good luck! and remember...

Respect is Everything.

Dragon Knight is dead. He was a Bulletproof Semitown-Lyncher, 1-shot Strongman, 1-shot Dayvig, 1-shot Nightvig.

Day 2 starts now.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2016-05-08 16:35:11).

With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes for a lynch.

VC 2.0

Votecount #2.0

BlueBloodedToffee

(0) -

The Banterlords

(0) -

FA_Q2

(0) -

BlackStar

(0) -

Masquerade

(0) -

Ircher

(0) -

TheDominator37

(0) -

MagnaofIllusion

)0) -

Polar Vortex

(0) -

A Real Scourge

(0) -

NOT VOTING (10) - MagnaofIllusion, FA_Q2, Masquerade, BlackStar, Ircher, Polar Vortex, BlueBloodedToffee, A Real Scourge, TheDominator37, The Banterlords.

NOTICE:

1. A couple of reminders:
All Hydras need to sign their posts.
I expect good activity from everyone. Low content, prod dodges and all - I will prod right through them.
2. MagnaOfIllusion is V/LA until Monday Morning.
3. I am recovering just fine, thank you all for caring. By Wednesday I should be good as new, and even better

Did you know?

There are no less than

11

bonuses a player can achieve in the game levels (not counting the bonus levels):

1. Expeditious Execution!
2. Genocide!
3. Accuracy Bonus!
4. Back to Front Bonus!
5. Insane Stunt Bonus!
6. Cop Killa!
7. Elvis Has Left the Building!
8. Medical Emergency!
9. Wipeout!
10. Car Jacka!
11. GRAND THEFT AUTO!

Can you manage to get them all?!?!

A big crowd is gathered near the Liquor Store, as usual. Seems like one of them drunk guys started some egofight with another. Riot? Unlikely there. Too few rats.involved. Bu--- HOLY SHIT!!!

A burning guy wearing a vest screams and starts sprinting towards the shore. His entire body is burning, and the drunk doesn't let go of the booze?! He sprints to the water, but before he gets there...the fire catches the bottle..

BlueBloodedToffee has exploded, after being hit by a Molotov Cocktail.

Spoiler: he was..

TOWN ROLE PM

Welcome to GTA2 Mafia, BlueBloodedToffee!

You are the

Armor

, doubling one's ability to withstand firefights with rivals.

The crime levels in this city are skyrocketing. Just being alive is dangerous; people rob, shoot, fight and run over others every single day. For this, wearing armor can help one get through the day unshot. Or well..at least unharmed by that shot.

Your abilities:

You are wearing armor. As such, you are

two-shot Bulletproof.

*

*Note that being burned, driven over, bazooka'ed, molotov'ed, etc....those things pierce armor!

You win when all the danger in Anywhere City is dealt with.

Good luck! and remember...

Respect is Everything.

The votecount has been reset. It now takes 5 votes for a lynch.

A crowd gathered around the Wang Car garage in the Residential District. Seems like some sort of massive drug deal went wrong. it doesn't look like anyone's interested in pointing fingers, as everyone fears for their families' lives, and don't want to create enemies.

One dude steps up. "This'n 'ere," he says, with what seems to be the heaviest accent you've heard in your lifetime. "e's ruttn'. I tell yah. Bad fuh bizns" he squeals, and everyone becomes silent. "nyon' els' gon' 'tand with me on 'is one?" he creeks. Some other dude steps up.

"Yeah, I'm in. I've seen his face before. He's got this mute handler - that one ain't here right now - they're massive with the Mitsi."
"Say what? You dun' crazy? I'm a cop you bastards, and ya'all's under arrest!"
Some of the buds scatter. They sprint out; nothing good can come out of this.

But the others.."We don't believe you, asshole. Besides, cops are the dirtiest gang, aight?!"
One by one the thugs gather in and surround the ol' dog. They open one of the garage doors and start beating him.

TheDominator37 has been lynched.

Out of

respect

, the gang allows the old crook who pointed the finger first search the dog's pockets.

Spoiler: Looks like he was just...

ZAIBATSU

Welcome to GTA2 Mafia, <player>!

You are

Uno Carb

, head of the

Zaibatsu conglomerate

.

You are clean cut and expensively well dressed, and the police don't know about any of your scars, birthmarks or tattoos, which gives you the ability to disguise, and continue operation unnoticed.

Your abilities:

You have a Tank. This is actually your second tank, brought to you in

Army Base Alert

by Gecko, after finding out that the first one which Gecko got you in

I'd like a tank please, Bob!

was booby-trapped.

In short - your tank is ARMORED, and you may use your tank's mounted Rocket Launcher.
And uh, did I mention you're a drug dealer? Each night you may sell drugs to someone. They will be informed of this.
In Long:
1. You are completely

Bulletproof

*.
2. You may use your tank for

Strongman Nightkills

**.
3. You may deal drugs to one person each night.

* - Note that tanks

are

destructable..
** - Note that certain vehicles can survive a normal Rocket Launcher..

3. Oh and, of course, your nightkill is the ZAIBATSU nightkill. Your fellow mate, the mute courier from

Payback!

, is <player>.
You two may talk <HERE> anytime. Each night, only one of you may perform a nightkill.

You win when the Zaibatsu have eliminated all competition, or nothing can stop that from happening.

Good luck! and remember...

Respect is Everything.

Night 2 has started.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-04-30 01:11:11)

Night 2 has Ended.
The law enforcements have exceeded expectations in crime fighting this time.
Not so much chaos swept the streets. A few fires here and there... and in total..

Only 1300 new cases?!
...That's quite few compared to the usual...

Case #4271

"HEELP!! HEEEEEEEEEEELLLPPP!!!!"

Around 4 AM, a person's cries woke up anything that was asleep, and alarmed everyone. The streets were still dark, and everyone was looking outside the window, to see what was going on. The street was dark, except for...

Someone was lit. Literally on fire. He was running down the street, like a mobile lamp, sprinting.
Eventually he slowed down and...stopped. And fell.
The screams die down.

He's gone.

Spoiler: The Burning Man was...

Welcome to GTA2 Mafia, Polar Vortex!

You are

Electrofingers

. Anything that goes around you gets...the tingling sensation.

Your abilities:

If you touch anything, it thinks you attack them - so no go for you!
However..If anyone touches YOU - that's their fault. They'll be slowly electrocuted...to death. They will die in

2

phases.
In short, you are a

Reflexive Poisoner.

You win when all the danger in Anywhere City is dealt with.

Good luck! and remember...

Respect is Everything.

Polar Vortex is dead. He was a town reflexive poisoner.

Day 3 starts now.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2016-05-14 01:35:11).

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes for a lynch.

VC 2.0

Votecount #3.0

Dwlee99

(0) -

FA_Q2

(0) -

BlackStar

(0) -

Masquerade

(0) -

Ircher

(0) -

MagnaofIllusion

)0) -

Klingoncelt

(0) -

NOT VOTING (7) - MagnaofIllusion, FA_Q2, Masquerade, BlackStar, Ircher, Klingoncelt, Dwlee99.

NOTICE:

1. MagnaOfIllusion is V/LA until Monday Morning.

[Ircher]

We have two unaccounted for kills: DK's death N1 and BBT's death D2

[Ircher]

DK was BP. Ranger was likely NK'd.

[Ircher]

Ooh, thats possible

[Ircher]

@Magna
If town wins, we'll make you an honourary winner.

VOTE: Fa_Q2

[Ircher]

Yes

[Ircher]

Do it.

If anyone can protect Masq tonight without RBing him... That might be prudent.

[Ircher]

Nah. I dont.

I just think someone should do me a favor of confirming my alignment, so town doesn't think I'm fakeclaiming.

[Ircher]

Roleflips so far:
Code Ninja rolecop 2x (scum)
Ranger Watcher lynchee (town)
DK JOAT 1-shot BP flamethrower molotov 1-shot strongman lyncher (semi-town)
BBT 2-shot BP (town)
Dom Full BP strongman drugdealer (scum)
Polar Reflexive poisoner (town)

In order of claiming:
Magna (pre-massclaim) Informed survivor
Ircher 1-shot bp reflexive friednly neighbour
Faq II Rolecop
Dwlee Even-night hider
Klingon Modified ascetic
Masq Roleblocker
Blackstar Commuter, but doesn't commute himself but makes others commute

Thought I'd put in everything together..

Actions:

N1: Ranger and DK were NK'd. DK set Polar on fire. Scourge and BBT were RB'd by Masq. Dwlee was commuted by Blackstar.
D2: BBT is Dayvigged
N2: Dwlee targeted Masq and was commuted.
Polar Vortex dies from DK's flames.
No NK's.
Blackstar commuted Dwlee.
Magna was RB'd by Masq.

FA_Q2 ought to claim results.

Nice try!

Lynch it with fire

[Ircher]

Fine.
VOTE: Klingon

I still think Magnas opinion was better though.

[Ircher]

Go ahead

[Ircher]

Everyone follows FA_Q's night plan

[Ircher]

Hammer away!

[Ircher]

I think I like lynching Masq more; srry, but even if we ml, we should still have 1 more day, and Magna is more likely a survivor.

VOTE: Masq

[Ircher]

VOTE: Magna

[Ircher]

VOTE: Dwlee

Ircher I feel bad for you. If you don't already understand - Town has already lost. You are making a choice between two Serial Killers. If you think Dwlee played a better game I can't fault your decision. But you aren't winning no matter who you vote today.

I knew Dwlee wasn't Town with his terribad claim but frankly was not in a position to push for him or really didn't even want to. I needed bodies to hit the floor at a quick pace.

Even Night Hider who gets a positive confirmation he was role-blocked? Nope, not a chance that's real. He's an Even Night Serial Killer. I know because I'm an Odd Night Serial Killer. This is just a replay of his recent finished Large Theme Cyberpunk Mafia where he was given a pass on a bad claim and skated to the end.

I forgot I was kingmaker in 3p lylo, whoops!

[Ircher]

Srry, I was thinking Magna was lying about his role.

[Ircher]

My role sucks... I should've realized this outcome but wasnt thinking ahead when I let Masq get lynched; I should've thought ahead.

[Ircher]

Indeedd. I really did expect you to be survivor with sk remaining or sk fakeclaiming with Dwlee as town.

[Ircher]

Yeah, I know. I was at school and in a hurry and not thinking at all.

[Ircher]

And, I did get the boringest role in this game.

[Ircher]

Sorry town; I screwed this up in ignorance. I should've listened to Masq but figured town had an extra day and Bully didn't seem to make real sense to me. (Though, I never played GTA before, so maybe it was valid; it just didnt seem like it would match the theme)

[Ircher]

Yeah, uhm... Having 2 sks in a game was completely unexpected.

I'm not sure how you could specify such in role madness without compromising them, but I do believe town needed to be more aware of the faction distribution.

Also, no one expects 2 SKs esp. when they have even/odd kill modifiers.

[Ircher]

Regarding Kling's lynch: The flavor made sense, but such a role seemed way more useful for scum.

[Ircher]

That plus the unwillingness to have a massclaim despite the fact she couldnt be killed at night except by strongman.....

[Ircher]

Correect play for me would actually to vote no lynch and basically veto any other lynch besides myself.

Dwlee still wouldve won though if he got Magna to lynch me.

[Ircher]

What if they cross killed twice in a row?

[Ircher]

The first time both survive; the 2nd both lose and town would win?

[Ircher]

Yeah, we lost partially due to lack of info, partially due to being tired of playing, and partially to quickhammers.

Magna's claim was good but wouldntve kept him alive forever.
Dwlee truly did slip through the net and therefore did deserve to win.

[Ircher]

Role seemed op in general.

[Ircher]

I guessing if DK survived without everyone else besides town dead, town would win?