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Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 9:03 am

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In post 1142, Ircher wrote:
Reflexive FRIENDLY Neighbor

This makes more sense then. Did not know that there was a friendly neighbor that has nothing to do with hoods.

Thus far I am really not liking claims made by Masquerade or Dwlee99 at all. One openly lied and the other is completely different from any town roles that have flipped thus far, my role and blackstar's role.
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Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 9:04 am

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And there are no other even/odd mechanics anywhere else.
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Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 9:09 am

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Nah. Ranger's watcher-role was also pretty straightforward like mine.
I btw had a power-up when I entered. i have fast reload which makes me punch rftaser, which means i can punch 2 players. not sure if that was the original role or it happened when I replaced in.

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Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 9:10 am

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I have more issue with Klingon's modified ascetic claim...
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Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 9:11 am

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But haven't had the time to really dig because lots of people buying drinktokens from me tonight which is good for my boss but means you (all) nwill have to wait until I get home before I can do a thorough reread.
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Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 9:52 am

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Can someone consolidate all the claims in 1 post?
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Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 12:07 pm

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In order of claiming:
Magna (pre-massclaim) Informed survivor
Ircher 1-shot bp reflexive neighbourizer
Faq II Rolecop
Dwlee Even-night hider
Klingon Modified ascetic
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Blackstar Commuter, but doesn't commute himself but makes others commute

The keyboard at work really sucks...
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Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 12:25 pm

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In post 1156, Masquerade wrote:In order of claiming:
Magna (pre-massclaim) Informed survivor
Ircher 1-shot bp reflexive friednly neighbour
Faq II Rolecop
Dwlee Even-night hider
Klingon Modified ascetic
Masq Roleblocker
Blackstar Commuter, but doesn't commute himself but makes others commute

The keyboard at work really sucks...

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Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 12:33 pm

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In post 1129, BlackStar wrote:I don't know if I should believe you. Your role is way too similar to mine and I don't think the town should have this much power.

I've thought about this a little more and both of us have the caveat that we can block a town pr, it's nothing like a doc who will just protect from a NK without interfering with other actions. We were lucky Polar was smart enough to claim ascetic with his reflexive role, but had it been someone who didn't think to do that we could have targetted Polar and be poisoned because of it.
This is rolemadness, everyone has power. It's nothing like a normal setup.
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Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 12:39 pm

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Other than that I still have to reread. Will do that after I had some sleep.
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Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 12:48 pm

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I'm inclined to disbelieve the role cop.
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Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 12:56 pm

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Why?
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Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 12:56 pm

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Role cop is more useful for scum, but on 2nd thought, this is role madness, so it may still be useful for town.
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Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 1:03 pm

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Roleflips so far:
Code Ninja rolecop 2x (scum)
Ranger Watcher lynchee (town)
DK JOAT 1-shot BP flamethrower molotov 1-shot strongman lyncher (semi-town)
BBT 2-shot BP (town)
Dom Full BP strongman drugdealer (scum)
Polar Reflexive poisoner (town)
In post 1157, Masquerade wrote:
In post 1156, Masquerade wrote:In order of claiming:
Magna (pre-massclaim) Informed survivor
Ircher 1-shot bp reflexive friednly neighbour
Faq II Rolecop
Dwlee Even-night hider
Klingon Modified ascetic
Masq Roleblocker
Blackstar Commuter, but doesn't commute himself but makes others commute


Thought I'd put in everything together..
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Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 1:21 pm

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I don't see rolecop being useful for a SK-type of role.
Rn I'm mostly confused by that daykill on BBT..
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Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 1:22 pm

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Probably Dom
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Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 2:10 pm

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hi
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Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 2:21 pm

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In post 1163, Masquerade wrote:Roleflips so far:
Code Ninja rolecop 2x (scum)
Ranger Watcher lynchee (town)
DK JOAT 1-shot BP flamethrower molotov 1-shot strongman lyncher (semi-town)
BBT 2-shot BP (town)
Dom Full BP strongman drugdealer (scum)
Polar Reflexive poisoner (town)
In post 1157, Masquerade wrote:
In post 1156, Masquerade wrote:In order of claiming:
Magna (pre-massclaim) Informed survivor
Ircher 1-shot bp reflexive friednly neighbour
Faq II Rolecop
Dwlee Even-night hider
Klingon Modified ascetic
Masq Roleblocker
Blackstar Commuter, but doesn't commute himself but makes others commute


Thought I'd put in everything together..

Actions:

N1: Ranger and DK were NK'd. DK set Polar on fire. Scourge and BBT were RB'd.
D2: BBT is Dayvigged
N2: Dwlee targeted ??? and was RB'd (That's suspicious).
Polar Vortex dies from DK's flames.
No NK's.
Magna was RB'd.
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Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 2:22 pm

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I want Klingon to tell us more than Modified Ascetic & also claim flavor name.
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Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 2:22 pm

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I tried to target masquerade.
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Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 2:24 pm

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The suspicious part is you knew you were RB'd. Last time I checked, Hiders weren't told that sort of info.
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Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 2:26 pm

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In post 968, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Back for V/LA –

Well just a quick scan of thread tells me I don’t have time to mess around with this stupid wagon on me. So I’m claiming.

I’m and Informed Survivor (SMS Computer Algorithm). That’s right I’m 3rd party. I win if I survive til the end of the game regardless of who wins. I got three pieces of information in my role PM about the set-up itself.

1. There is a lyncher in the game.
2. There are two 3rd Parties in game.
3. There are at least three different possible kill sources in the game.

My play surrounding Ranger was 100% based on the fact that his lazy call of me as 100% scum without so much as building a case was a strong player replacing into the lyncher slot with me as the target. Now that Diamond has actually flipped that role and is still a non-3rd party (argue if you want but Semi-Town is still Town) I’m in agreement we have a Serial Killer in the game. Because if the other lyncher was not 3rd Party I don’t see any other reasonable non-Bastard roles that fulfill the second piece of information (since I am the first 3rd Party role).

If you want some breadcrumbing from me go to and note my comment to Banter regarding 3rd Parties not being in a Mini game.

And I’m personally pretty sure I’ve already pointed out who the last Mafia member is.

VOTE: Dom

is a classic scum oops where he forgets that Town doesn’t know his scum team is only two players. And the hop on Code at when the issue was already decided is literally worst last second bussing ever. Maybe on the off chance Dom is the Serial Killer but I’m fairly confident he’s the Mafia boss.

In post 912, Polar Vortex wrote:First: Code didn't fight for his survival. That leads me to think the other wagon(Magna) was also scum. He didn't want to lynch Magna not because he liked him, but because he didn't like Ircher who was attacking Magna. That means defending his partner without really defending.
Second: The chainsaw on Ircher was ridiculous. Code was in a good position before he went after Ircher. Why did he need to go after Ircher in such a bad way? They could have left their heads down and not stick out that much. I think Code was getting scared of a Magna lynch where the momentum was going.
Third: Read the flavor for Code's flip. It says that the other scum is their boss. That would be a good idea why Code preferred to be lynched instead of Magna.
Fourth: Ranger is dead. Ranger was the leader of the Magna wagon.
Fifth(not related): I think we've got a serial killer in the game. I believe Ranger was killed by the scum and DK by the Sk. Another theory would suggest Ranger being killed by DK but that makes absolutely no sense with DK's lyncher role.


Yeah this is bad. Bearbert if you seriously think the best method for one two-man Mafia team to deal with each other is when both are under fairly solid suspicion is to call each other strong Town reads then I can’t help you. Perhaps a trip back to the Newbie queue would do you good.

I will add I think it is funny you basically said “Ranger will get worked out overnight” which means you expected her death due to the claim and then when that happens the only logical reason is that she suspected me.

In post 967, Masquerade wrote:Faq, I'm going to get back to you on BBT but first want to do this.

VOTE: magna
It's Monday.


Yeah on the off chance I am wrong about Dom this should be the next lynch looking for the Mafia boss. The whole dance around “Well Magna is V/LA so no need to turbo lynch” combined with this vote literally 9 hours into today reads as scum who knows I’m not flipping Mafia and wanted to look Town for being careful.

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Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 2:56 pm

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In post 1170, Ircher wrote:The suspicious part is you knew you were RB'd. Last time I checked, Hiders weren't told that sort of info.

It didnt say roleblocked but I was informed my action was not resolved.
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Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Sun May 01, 2016 5:00 pm

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In post 1168, Ircher wrote:I want Klingon to tell us more than Modified Ascetic & also claim flavor name.


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Post Post #1174 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2016 2:36 am

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Back from V/LA –

Given pretty much the consensus is I’m being lynched today I’m tempted to tell you all to go suck a rock at this point. I’ve already pulled your bacon out of the fire once yesterday from following Polar’s clearly stupid “MoI is Code's partner” lynch to actually lynch the last Mafia. It really is fundamentally against my wincon to continue to help you today if I’m assured of not having a chance to win myself.

I’ll see if my mood improves or not and decide if I should explain all the glaring holes in the claims process that deserve to be made clear.

In post 1171, Ircher wrote:Who's the third killer?


Yeah you aren’t exactly engendering me with goodwill to help you out.
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