Mini 1694 -- Zodiac Mafia II (Game Over)

[farside22]

So being a libra of unfortunate horoscope meant scum got to pick from the fortunate horoscope.

[farside22]

So being a libra of unfortunate horoscope meant scum got to pick from the fortunate horoscope.

Meaning scum get a daykill and you're close to confirmed town unless Mainez is also scum?

Sounds good to me.

Hi nacho!

I didn't play the last game and I'm too lazy to look.
Any clue if the day kill is public?
That would be awesomesauce

[farside22]

So being a libra of unfortunate horoscope meant scum got to pick from the fortunate horoscope.

Meaning scum get a daykill and you're close to confirmed town unless Mainez is also scum?

Sounds good to me.

hmm interesting... how do you know scum got the daykill? i believe farside's description of his unfortunate horoscope meant he got the "opposite alignment empowered" and it says that the scumteam may choose one fortunate horoscope.

Bingo.

[farside22]

Am I the only Kitty Kat? I forget what I'm compatible with although I know I get along with Libra's, farside

RVS Questions!
1. What about your sign do you know that is true to your personality\outlook?
2. Pick a player you have played with before in the game and describe their town\scum meta
3. What is town's optimal choice if they receive a fortunate horoscope and why?

Funny I don't get along with libra's.....well girl libra's at least.

1) I think life should be fair and I'm a bit of a dreamer
2) nacho, marquis, aronis.
As for meta. Nacho can be your bff as scum. Town, he is more thoughtful.
Marquis. Scum I think he tries harder then he does as town to scum hunt
Aronis: not sure as much with his meta. He keeps changing his playstyle
3) I won't be awnsering this.

[farside22]

sure ok I can town read that too

thanks
i try

What is this? What is the town read? Not following

I assume Marquis would be more familiar with the fortunate horoscope mechanics as scum considering there would have been a post in the scum QT by now about choosing one

1) "Reputed to be the "most powerful" sign of the zodiac, Scorpios lead fate filled lives and have intense and dramatic personal relationships. Even as children Scorpios are often found to be wise beyond their years. Many astrologers call this the sign of the "oldest souls". Old and wise beyond the average, Scorpios often know all the answers, except sometimes; they too often have difficulty finding what they need to develop their own happiness."

All of that^^^

2) played with farside. nacho long time ago. Maybe marquis? Only know farside is abrasive town? That's it

3) I'd do daykill and save for end of game. Or hide for end game.

I can be abressive. I can also be nice. Depends.

[farside22]

Also I meant to say marquis could fake not knowing what's out there.

[farside22]

@farside, that's what the "?" Was for. I figured you could be nice. Just recalling recent memory and possibly or only game together. Just came back recently.

Yea. That was not my best game.

Hey guys.

VOTE: startfromtheheart

Hey, cowboys fan is voting me! Ouch. That hurts.

*ahem*
Roger that.

Also, far and I tend to get along well.

We do?

Lane and nacho are my early town reads thus far.

[farside22]

Hey guys.

VOTE: startfromtheheart

Hey, cowboys fan is voting me! Ouch. That hurts.

*ahem*
Roger that.

Also, far and I tend to get along well.

Sorry. I'll unvote. It's nothing personal, I just random.org all my RVS votes now.

UNVOTE: startfromtheheart

Why are you unvoting an rvs vote?

@nacho, roger

VOTE: lane
we are absolutely lynching this today

This seems like a pretty weird response.

Do you not like the name Roger or something?

i mean
are you okay with it??
afaik lane has a penchant for being horribly too-obv as scum so.

I don't see how that comment is scummy.

VOTE: startfromtheheart

I think it's pretty obvious how to start this. We'll do popcorn for dayvigs and see who has one. If nobody does, Far is confscum. If somebody does, it's a scum lynch and Far is conftown. That sound good?

Vote: ric

[farside22]

Okay...? Why?

I'd like metal to take a stab at this before farside if that's ok with farside.

Sure, I can wait. I'm busy today anyways

[farside22]

@ricastle, yeah your second paragraph explains what I was thinking but I'm not going to assume that's the reason for their vote.

And it would be stupid. Unless that's exactly why they didn't choose it. Major wifom I know.

@farside, metal voted because of the response I guess. What did you see wrong with his game plan post?

Ric is acting as though day kill is the only choice scum would make.
Scum would ask if they could use it publically first most likely and if it is public, maybe didn't pick it. So his proposal is no one has it lynch far looks like scum with inside info that wants an easy lynch.

[farside22]

Hi!

I'm still a little confused by the setup but I think stepping away and thinking about it might let it set in.

But, farside do you mean there's an evil and town horoscope role pm and you got the evil one, and that's why everyone knows scum have a day kill?

Also, I think nacho might be town so I can't vote him but I can fake

daykill: nachomamma

We would only need to wait for the mod if several people chose the same person, otherwise it doesn't matter.

Read rules or see next post.

[farside22]

Explain why scum would pick Commuter, Hider, Vest, Roleblocker or Neighborizer over Dayvig in an all-vanilla game. Also explain how that isn't the obvious conclusion to make.

Do you think scum would not discuss or question the choice?
Yes or no?

If the day kill is known why would scum pick it knowing they could be outted?
The other abilities like rb is more powerful.

[farside22]

I really doubt that this is actually going to work. I think the mod would have came up with something to avoid the game being broken like this.

i don't get why you're not willing to go along with this, there's essentially no harm because if you do not have the daykill then all is fine.

I'm doing it, I just think there's a 99% chance it doesn't work. Farside could be lying, I highly doubt they had to pick right away so they could still be discussing it atm, or we could be saying the wrong words.

Why would you think I'm lying

[farside22]

I didn't realize scum had day talk?

[farside22]

I didn't realize scum had day talk?

How would they choose without it?

Last game there was no day talk. I just check.

[farside22]

UNFORTUNATE
L-1 Lynch - The player that receives this is lynched at L-1 as opposed to L-0.
Post Restriction - The player that receives this is assigned a post restriction by the moderator.
Secret Admirer - The player that receives this must PM the mod another player to become enamored with. If this chosen player is killed, lynched or modkilled, the player commits suicide during this day/night phase. The chosen player is not effected or informed of this.
Jailed - The player that receives this is locked in jail tonight and cannot commit a night action nor have a night action committed on them. Note: No other player is responsible for this jailing.
No Flip - If the player that receives this is lynched, killed or modkilled, the player's alignment will not reveal during this day/night phase. It will be revealed during the next day/night phase.

Opposite Alignment Empowered - If the player that receives this is town, the scumteam may choose one fortunate horoscope. If the player that receives this is scum, the scumteam may not kill anyone during the next night phase.

Bad Fortune - No effect.
Bad Fortune - No effect.
Bad Fortune - No effect.
Bad Fortune - No effect.

[farside22]

I'm assuming they had to pick pregame. And they don't have daytalk.

@farside, did you get your horoscope before the game was opened? I'm assuming so since it was your first post.

We can't draw any significant conclusions if no one dies. But it's worth having everyone at least try to daykill if we're trading 1 for 1.

@mod, when did scum pick their fortunate? Were they forced to pick it pregame? There's a couple other clarification questions I've posed. Let me know please if you saw them or if you can't answer them

I got the misfortune pregame.

Only farside and Marquis haven't done a 'daykill' yet

I didn't see why I should, then I realized why.

Day kill: Tammy

[farside22]

so... if nothing happens, does that mean scum didn't pick the day kill?

(oh now you guys know i didn't get the day kill too lol)

Yes.

[farside22]

Welp back to scumhunting.

Farside you didn't have to do the daykill. You for sure didn't have it.

Maybe farside lied, which I will 90% dismiss.

More likely scum is much smarter than I am cause I was thinking daykill would be the obvious choice at first to use at endgame.

there was good and bad about this talk.
one we know scum thought about what to take and the in's and out's
two it got us out of rvs and people posted to get reads on.

[farside22]

Nacho: how much do you remember from the last run of this game?
Same question to Aronis

[farside22]

vote: elusive

[farside22]

The more I think about ricastle's farside confscum comment the more it sketches me out. Possible it was completely genuine. But also possible he thought daykill was obvious choice in pregame as scum, his scum partner explained it better and chose something different, but still figured he could get farside mislynched using the logic.

I'm still on the side that he was genuine, but it's definitely an ongoing debate in my head. I guess the rest of his play will tell

I just thought with the topic that scum would know what was picked and use the opportunity to frame me for outing them. I get paranoid sometimes.
One post ric made did make me step back a bit on him.

I didn't like Tammy entrance in the game and I have a ping on Metal Sonic currently but right now those are just gut calls.

[farside22]

The entirety of my play thus far has been based on the misconception of an all-vanilla setup. Therefore most of what I've said and done has been largely irrelevant...anyway, moving on.

there was good and bad about this talk.
one we know scum thought about what to take and the in's and out's
two it got us out of rvs and people posted to get reads on.

What was the bad?

Keeping my vote on start for now. I don't like how he immediately came to the conclusion that my vote was a reaction test when it was just late RVS. His latest three posts also reek of trying to look useful.

People are going to be paranoid of me now.

[farside22]

Also when I looked at the last game it was all vanilla game.

[farside22]

What didn't you like about my opening far side?

Also I think I understand now. I thought the scum team decided which role we got from the horoscope, but far side getting the alternate empowered was completely random as was the getting the unfortunate in the first place, right? Please let me know if Ii've got things right now so I can stop worrying about the mechanics and actually read the game

You came across as insincere. Like right now it takes no effort to go to the first page, read the rules and it clearly states the horoscope given out is random.
Your talking to someone phone posting with ADD and I did that much

[farside22]

...I did that. I read the rules, thought I had it, read what was going on Wednesday night, was thoroughly confused, then read it again and slept on it. Thought I understood it better yesterday, and now think I understand it completely, so if someone can tell me if I actually have it right now, that would be grand.

I do not have ADD, but I do not understand rules all that well until I see the game in motion.

What exactly are you confused about?

[farside22]

What didn't you like about my opening far side?

Also I think I understand now. I thought the scum team decided which role we got from the horoscope, but far side getting the alternate empowered was completely random as was the getting the unfortunate in the first place, right? Please let me know if Ii've got things right now so I can stop worrying about the mechanics and actually read the game

Do I have this right now?

Elusive - I'm not hesitant to get in the game. At the moment, I'm more interested in making sure I understand the setup/what's been going on so that I can read the first pages and go from here. I'm rarely very good in the first pages of a game in real time. Often times I tend to just troll my way through the first pages of a game or if there's a mechanic/setup thing I don't understand I try to figure out that.

The fortune and misfortune and who gets it is random.
I recieved misfortune. I recieved the empowerment of opposite alignment which gave the scum team the opportunity to pick something from the fortune part.

[farside22]

Was it also random that you got the empowerment of opposite alignment? That was the last thing that was tripping me up until it dawned on me that that was also probably random.

Yes

[farside22]

By the way I wasn't making fun of adhd. My son has it.

[farside22]

Okay I feel better about tammy

[farside22]

@elusive... not a big fan of scum reads or answering questions or acknowledging pressure? That's cool.

Farside has this way too easy right now. I'm sorry far. I'm with you. But what if you lied?

I don't feel like I have this easy.

Still scum reading elusive.

[farside22]

Nacho: how much do you remember from the last run of this game?
Same question to Aronis

I remember it pretty well. I didn't really follow it very much after I died though.

Do you think taking the day kill is the best thing for scum?

Re: stupid questions.

You asked about Nacho and you asked about my thoughts re the daykill plan which I already quoted\discussed\have not interest in rehashing because I think there isn't anything there to actually question and rather you're wasting time trying to look busy when in actuality you're grasping at straws.

Once I have an unfavorable opinion of someone and they continue to twist my words my responses become...let's call it abrasive.

People, other then scum or derp town, don't vote me in general.

Here is a little primer on mafia since you seem to be lacking the basics and maybe need a spin in the Newbie queue:
1. Each player is different and if you find something different about them, go on their Wiki or look through their topics and run some meta data
2. Before asking repetitive questions or ones that are answered, ask yourself, "Does this make sense? Should I ISO the player and see if the response is already answered since its only day one and I have only 9 pages to wade through? Am I going to come off as a tryhard scumtard doofus when I attempt to tunnel a player for something while ignoring more obvious people who have done less?"

This is scum or quite possibly the worst town play of all time.

A) I didn't ask about your thoughts on the daykill plan, I asked you if marquis was your boat scumread. A question that is seemingly too difficult to answer.

B) twist your words. Please elusive, quote me one time where I twist your words.

C) do you think farside is scum or derptown?

D) I'm not trying to look busy. I am busy

E) are you really going to try that hard to make me look like I'm a terrible player? You're just trying to call me shit whIle being completely shit.

Elusive is so scum it hurts... or so terrible town it almost makes me want to binge eat

Wth? I did nothing derpy this game.

VOTE: tammy

That vote is bad. You need to explain.

[farside22]

So looking at Tammy's last two completed town games:

1. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=58816
2. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p6452665

Her town game whether town PR or town vanilla seems to be more: direct, active, and confident in her reads\votes. Here she started off as passive, hesitant, used the "don't understand" card to stall more active play and is pinging as off.

VOTE: Tammy

Re: Drama - I think I should have taken a break between the last game and this new set as their kind of blending together and being harangued gets tiring.

Marquis, I'm not a fan of wishy washy reads either. If you have a read, give a clear explanation and vote for it.

This is deperate and ugly and should be voted.

i agree with elusive('s explanation for her vote on tammy)

thanks elusive

science and progress!

You are scum this game, aren't you.

[farside22]

Sorry I'm having trouble concentrating on this game.
I promise to get to this tonight since I'm busy for the next 2 days

[farside22]

@elusive: did you look at tammy's scum games to see any similarities?
If so why no links?

Still reading elusive as fake.

I looked at the scum link I see nothing similar here. Explain what you see that reads scum Tammy.


@nacho: why does elusive's case not look scummy? You realize there was a wagon on him?
I just feel he attacked something weak and those following look no better.



This is the part I scream that elusive is scum and can't fathom why others don't and then beat my head on a desk wishing the pain would end.

There is no fucking reason to say that Tammy is scum for not being like her town game and then fucking critize when someone points out it isn't her scum game. Guess what, that makes her play nulk not scummy!
Geez
Those reading this refer to post 264 and response 265.


@aronis: how is your reads coming?

@kayp: I love you.

Mainez is a light town read.


Metal: stop ignoring me, why are you voting ric?
Why is elusive town? His points on tammy are terrible and so far he is just throwing his dick around to piss people off and not scum hunt.

[farside22]

Elusive is not obvscum

Ricastle is obv scum

Why?

Sorry missed that Elusive is a girl

[farside22]

I'd vote marquis

[farside22]

yeah I'm not following MS on this one.

I like my vote thus far and groot isn't really helping me here either

[farside22]

What the hell is groot? And what's with people talking about other games like it's social hour. People will die you know...

Nacho's avatar is groot.

I'm still voting elusive

[farside22]

Things that elusive failed to mention.
There was more then one scum faction in the game she is referring to.
Second i don't recall ever saying she or he in the game when reffwring to Elusive, yes my memory/ADD is very real

[farside22]

Don't know about metal but I like marquis question to aronis

[farside22]

Things that elusive failed to mention.
There was more then one scum faction in the game she is referring to.
Second i don't recall ever saying she or he in the game when reffwring to Elusive, yes my memory/ADD is very real

Are their 2 games you were sk and she was scum? Because the one I found she was wolf and she died day 2. Far from the claim you were in end together. Another lie on her part. Funny the people voting her are the only ones that don't have reasons for their votes

greatest idea mafia
it was a mini theme game and we both were in end game.

I won.

[farside22]

aronis ISO always stinks

I usually see him more useless as scum. Did this change?

[farside22]

aronis ISO always stinks

I usually see him more useless as scum. Did this change?

I'm always useless. Haven't you figured that out by now?

no

I remember you were once the VI with a temperment and foot in mouth
but useless.........no

[farside22]

I'd rather deal with a vi then useless if your asking which I prefer.

[farside22]

Alright I checked into one player that was pinging me.

Vote: ric

[farside22]

Oh I gambit, I'm just not stupid.
There is a huge difference.

Hi massive

[farside22]

Wtf is up with the m's wagon?

[farside22]

Nobody

needs

to explain anything to you.

You have to ask nicely. Now repeat after me

"Miss Farside, could you please take some of your precious time to explain to me why your vote has been placed on me?"

I reread ric and saw he didn't really explain his vote. When he got a response it caught my attention he didn't unvote.
The vote he did place on elusive was very awkward,
Instead of scum hunting afterwards, metal calls him out and he basically omgus votes metal for doing so.

Quotes below for reference.

How did Ricastle come to the conclusion that the game is all-vanilla? This seems like inside information to me. I also don't get how he would know mafia didn't have pre-game talk... there's just a lot of info coming out of Ricastle that seems like maybe he assumed everyone knows because it's hard for him to separate himself from what he knows as mafia and what he should know as town.

Why don't you finish catching up? Also, you do realise it was confirmed that scum

did

have pre-game chat, right?

On another note VOTE: elusive

Actually, you know what, fair enough. Wasn't a remotely confident vote and reading your posts back I'm not seeing what I thought I saw. I'm also not really seeing Tammy scum at the moment unless there's some bombshell evidence I'm overlooking (which tbqh is very possible considering my attention level in this game).

Why don't we all make up and wagon startfromtheheart, eh?

He is not scumhunting he is just fluffing and shit talking

He has not posted a single read yet. Vote elusive vote hearty but doesn't provide reasons.

Obvscum, please kill

He asks too many questions but he doesnt contribute shit.

Too many "why?", but too little "x is town y is scum"

You cannot be serious...this is the epitome of hypocrisy.

First off, the timing of your vote makes no bloody sense considering my previous post was explaining the scumread on start. You aren't even bothering to mention it in your case, either. Why is that?

Also..ha..I'VE fluffed, shit talked, and provided little reasoning? ISO yourself why don't you. You know, scum can belt out as many reads as they want in a strategic manner because they know who's what; it's generally harder for town to get legitimate reads. Your reads in 325 are utterly empty; how is that a shining example of pro-town play? In fact, going by your OWN LOGIC, it's the opposite.

You're pushing a policy of "more reads = good, less reads = bad" which a) is bullshit as I already explained and b) makes that empty-ass 325 of yours look good. Also, I could understand you being confident in me being scum, but 'confscum'? Cut the shit. That's scum trying to fake overconfidence.

Here's a read for you: Metal Sonic is scum

VOTE: Metal Sonic

[farside22]

Yea I read it, twice.
It's omgus.
If you think it is not explain how.

[farside22]

I'm here. Just had a bad day yesterday. Am I missing anything?

[farside22]

Town should talk about scum reads.
If you don't you look like scum aTe.

I'm torn because the wagon has stalled and scum could have jumped on the wagon if ric was town. Seeing that not happen I'm Leanimg ric scum.
Frankly I know he is better then this

[farside22]

Your point is he is a hypocrite.
Why does that make him scum if your doing it?

[farside22]

I find myself agreeing with sonic

[farside22]

I think aronis is town.

I'm feeling fisty with what aronis pointed out.

Vote:Mainz

I'd push groot/nacho too

[farside22]

When I read mainez posts I read it in her voice

Her voice sounds like omg how dare you point out I have switched my vote, I'm looking to vote you for doing that.

[farside22]

i am not following you...

i hope nacho comes back really really really soon.

Idc

[farside22]

When I read mainez posts I read it in her voice

Her voice sounds like omg how dare you point out I have switched my vote, I'm looking to vote you for doing that.

urm... i was the one who said that i switched my own vote lol so i don't get what you're saying here.

Sorry then how dare you point out I was rvs for 20 pages to finally vote a lurker.

Yup that sound better

[farside22]

Elusive moves to a town read.

[farside22]

I wouldn't mind if you finished your reads, massive

[farside22]

UNVOTE:

I liked that string of posts actually.

Heading out to my thing, do stuff in a bit.

Who is this in regards to?

Massive: I disagree with you about lane. Would lynch ric

[farside22]

Vote: metal

[farside22]

I'm good

[farside22]

Because you voted aronis over mantiez and I don't know why

[farside22]

Mainez is my friend and I can read her given time

Aronis is known to be a lurker and useless even as town

Though if I have a choice I would lynch Marquis. I think he is my best bet for scum. Do we all want to lynch Marquis?

Elusive? Farside? Let's get this going

Vote: marquis

I never can read the guy so I'd do that.


I need to reread ric, but mainez reads pretty scummy.
I just don't have time to meta search

[farside22]

I am gut scumreading him

Mainly I just want to start a cw, I don't have any strong scum reads right now @_@

I feel this way too, which really makes a miserable game and makes me want to revote ric

[farside22]

Massive: I disagree with you about lane. Would lynch ric

Do you think he's just bumbly then, and not scummy?

Yes

[farside22]

this game is hard.
and you experienced people are scaring me, i'm not even kidding lol because truth to be told, i don't have particularly strong scumreads either.

and people don't seem to be on the same page as me which makes me even more confused.

deadline is approaching really soon and i won't mind changing my vote to marquis if needed, iso is pretty bad too.

Someone smack me end game about why I quoted this.

Reading the exchange between mainez and nacho, makes me feel better about mainez as town.

Mainez why are you town?

idk how to explain, i'm trying my best to contribute and hunt for scum.
i don't get why nobody finds aronis fishy. and the things i question are apparently ignored or not so good.
it sucks but i'm trying.

But that's why he's a wagon that doesn't really inspire confidence or hope: he hasn't done anything particularly out of character so people kind of want to lynch him but they're used to the town flip afterwards.

This is very accurate reason about aronis.

[farside22]

Marquis is quitting?!?
Sigh.

Won't vote aronis.
Null on massive.
Not sure about elusive. I go from scum reading to town reading the spot.
I'd probably lynch ric because he's not trying to figure the game out

[farside22]

Bettlejuice

[farside22]

Well in my view I should not have to engage with you.
You should be able to read the game and put your views out there.

[farside22]

Ric: why is lane a scum read from before?

[farside22]

That was marquis. Aka you.

[farside22]

Also nacho: what was your read in kayp?

[farside22]

Ugh, the threat to my life is going to force me to actually try playing the game. Right now I am slightly suspicious towards Lane because of some gut stuff. I am concerned about Massive, because that MOFO is an unreadable beast. I am scared half to death of that devil spawn.

On the other hand, I would be cool PL'ing farside22 or ricastle, becus I am afraid some sort of toxic argument will happen that will ruin the game.

Everyone else is town, bcus null reads are the stupidest thing since bottled air.

Excuse me?
Who the fuck do you think you are.

[farside22]

Wow, Farside is scary.

Constantine is annoying.

He has to be an alt. anyone who calls me toxic has played with me when I reached the point of no return.

don't mess with the mafia mum!!!

not even you, elusive ^_^

*fist pump*

[farside22]

*sits in confirmed town spot*

Now I have to remember this game

[farside22]

Vote: elusive

[farside22]

Yawn

[farside22]

So being a libra of unfortunate horoscope meant scum got to pick from the fortunate horoscope.

[farside22]

i'd be fucking surprised if elusive even flips scum

Why?

[farside22]

Doesn't explain scum reads and bitches about others lack of explaination

[farside22]

I like hermit.

Okay elusive, I think your reads are bad. I don't know about the aronis read but I'm town and massive is a town read.
What is your read on nacho?

[farside22]

Thank you elusive.

Unvote

[farside22]

Yea this game has been the haphazard I don't know what to think but I'm getting there phase

[farside22]

Okay reread a few things to get my feet back in this.
I think nacho is scum.
Ms reads scummy.

I feel comfortable reading elusive town, massive, lane all as town.
Pretty null about aronis and mainez

Vote: nacho

[farside22]

Good vote!
I give it 4 stars.

[farside22]

Who is scum and why metal

[farside22]

Why do you think it's 2 scum??? 2:10??

Last Zodiac Mafia had 2 scum and 12 players.

I hate this post.
Why I hate it.
Day 1 you misremember lots of things.

[farside22]

Well if you want to ask me why I'm not interacting with ric, I did as much as Icould day 1.
As for massive (and yes people will hate me when I say this but I give 2 fucks if you do) kayp was so fucking obvious town that if massive played shitty the rest of the game I'd smack him and tell to Sri fucking around and scum hunt.
That's how much kayp post rang town for me.

[farside22]

@nacho: it was more the kayp replacing out.

Here is my issue with nacho this game. I get being busy and behind but when he comes in instead of giving thoughts or reads like I'd expect he just votes whoever. The vote for self reads fake.

Metal is being too quiet for my taste, yea my read on him is metaish but he still reads as scum.
Mainez would be 3rd on my scum list. Mostly POE.

[farside22]

@nacho:

it was more then kayp replacing out

.

Why was that town? Do you think Kay P wouldn't replace out in the face of a personality she disliked as scum?

I bolded and added a letter to be clearer.

[farside22]

This is in regards to your votes being all over the place.

Holy shit we have a day left.

Vote: Metal Sonic

Vote: massive

I need sleep :/

Aronis is a crapshoot. Let's vote massive.

Vote: St Constantine

Rereading massive now that my reasons for townreading KayP are gone.

Vote: Nachomamma8

Sonic, you failed me.

Vote: Mainez

I again don't really know where I want to go.

Ricastle, why are you voting me again?

This leaves something like Massive/Start/farside, which certainly isn't the scumteam (farside is a bad pick in particular, but maybe swap out her for Ricastle), but seems like a damn good start.

Vote: startfromtheheart

Today's post makes no sense given your thoughts from yesterday and only massive was mentioned.

[farside22]

What else?

You were town reading kayp so why are you asking?

[farside22]

I liked her catch up post and comments.
When metal called her town she asked why. She pushed questions and wasn't afraid to take a stance.

Why are you scum reading kayp?

[farside22]

Libra (September 23 - October 22)

Stereotype

: Will they ever make up their minds? Wishy-washy Libras drive you crazy with their inability to commit.

Source

: Libra is represented by the Scales -- they're here to weigh all the options and make choices that result in maximum balance, harmony and justice. This takes time! Of course, there's a point when Libra needs to commit to a course of action -- and most of them get there, eventually -- but aren't you glad that someone is considering all the points of view and potential impact on everyone involved? You know that when they do finally commit, they're likely to stick with their decision.

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Vote Count 2 - 3

• Nachomamma8 (4) ( St Constantine the Hermit - farside22 -
  startfromtheheart
  - lane0168 - Ricastle)
  
  elusive (1) ( Aronis -
  Ricastle
  )
  startfromtheheart (1) ( Nachomamma8)
  Ricastle (1) ( elusive)
  
  Aronis (0) (

  elusive

  )
  
  
  Not Voting (4) (
  lane0168
  - Mainez - massive -
  Nachomamma8
  - Metal Sonic - startfromtheheart)

With eleven alive, it takes six to lynch.
Current Deadline:

(expired on 2015-07-28 09:00:00)

My husband is worse then me about making up his mind.
Of course he's a procrastinator on top of it.
The guy is libra too.

[farside22]

I'm edging towards mainez because how under the radar she is here.

[farside22]

This above is why I would vote metal^
Weak attacks for weak reason on day 2

[farside22]

I'm not attacking anyone.

Voting start.
Maybe not an attack but the vote for day 2 is weak.
We are way past lol rvs crap.

[farside22]

Massive: what is your thoughts on nacho and metal

[farside22]

VOTE: Metal

[farside22]

Fine but don't ignore metal.

Vote: nacho

[farside22]

Ric I think metal is scum with nacho.
Mainez is also another scum read I'd like to see be pushed day 3

[farside22]

Me too.

[farside22]

I can't understand how metal reads town but mainez is something I could get behind.