Mini 1694 -- Zodiac Mafia II (Game Over)

[Ricastle]

aside from the bad requests for people who got their horoscopes today to claim, how come no one asked me what i got from the fortunate horoscope but is trying to get info out of those who got the horoscopes for today? not sure what it means but interesting to point out.

Yeah, that's what ELUSIVE is doing...and then you go on to defend elusive. Lol.

with tammy's town flip, i'm kinda leaning towards elusive as town because of elusive's tunneling at the start and stuff with so much determination. but i remember that when i played as scum before, i tend to openly posts stuff like "hey what do i do now that my strongest scumread is dead bleah", not that this is what elusive did but something along that line like i think it was natural and towny of elusive to assume that scum was trying to so-called "frame" her. the reaction looked genuine. don't think elusive is the right way to go today.

This is bollocks and I wouldn't be remotely surprised if mainez was elusive's partner. You cite having a similar mindset to the one elusive is displaying here as scum but she's somehow town for it? Why? And natural/genuine is the last thing I would describe her reaction as. It was objectively flat as fuck.

[Ricastle]

Yeah, that's what ELUSIVE is doing...and then you go on to defend elusive. Lol.

Okay, ignore this. I swear this happened but apparently not.

[Metal Sonic]

i'd be fucking surprised if elusive even flips scum

[farside22]

i'd be fucking surprised if elusive even flips scum

Why?

[Aronis]

? Isn't it MetalSonic and Startfromtheheart?

Also Aronis, you are trying hard to fit a narrative to me which is disturbing. Either you're scum or you're bad town.

I mean the fact that you're trying to decide what I would think or do as town or scum when SON YOU DONT KNOW ME is in itself bizarre.

You are attempting to use meta to discredit everything I say, rather than using an actual argument. And you're not even backing up your statements with meta that suggests you'd do otherwise as scum in this situation, which could make somewhat of a vaild point. Instead you just use my lack of knowledge about your meta to basically trash my read repeatedly.

[Aronis]

on vla till Thursday, should check in on my phone when I can.

With my Tammy read being off, idk.

I don't like Ric and Aronis push on me esp. Aronis push since day one, no other scumspects or no analysis of the game itself. Bad.

I don't think you know my gameplay either though, so how do you know I tunnel as scum/don't tunnel as town? Oh wait, you don't. So fuck off.

[elusive]

Go cry in the corner. If you can't make a case or have actual reasons then guess what, you're not town your a bad player who wait for it...has no other reads, nor content. Worthless playstyles are worthless.

I don't think Mainez is scum.

I still find massive to be odd, selective engagement much?

Farside, the better question to you and your buddies is - Why am I scum? Try answering in more than monosyllables. I mean you can't be this incompetent can you? Or are you struggling to carry the dead weight that is Aronis and Ricastle?

I think lynching one of Aronis or Ricastle proves the most fruitful today.

Metal, Mainez, Hermy, town players of all capabilities please let's have a wagon on Aronis and maybe a counter on Ricastle. <3

[massive]

I still find massive to be odd, selective engagement much?

Is this your way of saying you won't answer my questions?

[Ricastle]

>doesn't answer any of my points against her

>calls me dead weight

[farside22]

Doesn't explain scum reads and bitches about others lack of explaination

[elusive]

Aronis - tunneling me from early day one, does not take anything else into account. Has no change in reads, seems to be on the popular wagon. Classic scum tactic.

Ricastle - as town is able to make cases, here is not only flailing but misread and confused for me another player and continues to tunnel. Nope this is scum Ric.

Massive - maybe you need to read my sign description, I always think everything is about me. I also have a lot of experience with scum trying to mess with me\tunnel me\frustrate me. Not only that but see thread and reasons for scum reading me lol. The WIFOM douchery is strong with some.

Farside - as town is able to make cases and be logical, here is sheeping the dumbest of the lot lol

[St Constantine the Hermit]

There were two major wagons yesterday, and chances are the entire scum block, or at least two scum, were voting using the same pattern. I would much rather vote for someone on one of the two major wagons for information purposes, and the Tammy NK strengthened my resolve that scum was Nacho.

[Ricastle]

The OMGUS is strong in this game

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Good fortunes should claim, because the majority of good fortunes are null or protective abilities, and since the people who receive good fortunes are public, they are most subject to the NK.

The bad fortunes should claim because they are anti-town utility, therefore the best thing they can do is inform us of what kinds of things we are dealing with.

[Ricastle]

Aronis - tunneling me from early day one, does not take anything else into account. Has no change in reads, seems to be on the popular wagon. Classic scum tactic.

Ricastle - as town is able to make cases, here is not only flailing but misread and confused for me another player and continues to tunnel. Nope this is scum Ric.

Massive - maybe you need to read my sign description, I always think everything is about me. I also have a lot of experience with scum trying to mess with me\tunnel me\frustrate me. Not only that but see thread and reasons for scum reading me lol. The WIFOM douchery is strong with some.

Farside - as town is able to make cases and be logical, here is sheeping the dumbest of the lot lol

Anyone townreading elusive at this point, please stand up.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

I don't think Mainez is scum, but one possible case for his was the fact that no one pushed for his claim D1, nor was he the subject of the NK, despite scum knowing he had a 50% chance of a power role.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

I'm town reading him, but only because I am not scum reading him. I guess that's why you call null, but null isn't an allegiance so I would classify him as town.

[Ricastle]

I'll take that as null.

What do you make of this latest display?

[St Constantine the Hermit]

He isn't doing much scum hunting, and the allusion to the Tammy NK is the only thing that goes on my radar immediately. I think there are stronger cases on the table at this point though.

[massive]

Good fortunes should claim, because the majority of good fortunes are null or protective abilities, and since the people who receive good fortunes are public, they are most subject to the NK.

The bad fortunes should claim because they are anti-town utility, therefore the best thing they can do is inform us of what kinds of things we are dealing with.

Are you adverse to reading the thread, or just willfully not comprehending it?

The best positive fortune is the bulletproof vest. If someone received it, why should they claim it? Alternately, why should they prove to scum that they DIDN'T receive it?

And both farside (scum get to pick one) and start (nothing happened) have both already claimed their negative fortunes.

[farside22]

I like hermit.

Okay elusive, I think your reads are bad. I don't know about the aronis read but I'm town and massive is a town read.
What is your read on nacho?

[elusive]

Nacho's not here. So how to read him? Why would he defend me? Scum rarely defend me in games, instead they keep bringing up my name over and over in hopes to mislynch me and create drama. See: Various games, some of which I replaced out of.

The fact that he's lurking is the reason I would vote him but idk, it doesn't feel right.

My reads in this game might be off a little for now but usually I have a 1/2 "found scum" ratio or better.

[farside22]

Thank you elusive.

Unvote

[Nachomamma8]

Ricastle, why are you voting me again?

Same reasons as yesterday. Time to do something town, now! Like, say, voting elusive.

I don't remember your reasons yesterday. I do remember they weren't very good :/

[Nachomamma8]

I find discussing who you would've nightkilled to be very sketchy. IF you're town, you have no reason to think about nightkilling anyone, on the other hand if you were scum wanting to use the nightkill to benefit your standing with the town, then you just made the perfect choice in Tammy.

This statement is pretty naive.