Mini 1694 -- Zodiac Mafia II (Game Over)

[Nachomamma8]

Oh...yeah...right. I didn't realise scum didn't have pre-game chat about this.

I mean, they probably didn't?
I figure they didn't because it seems unlikely that they would be informed of a horoscope before everyone else.

[Nachomamma8]

I didn't realize scum had day talk?

How would they choose without it?

[elusive]

More setup spec, yawn.

Am I the only Kitty Kat?

RVS Questions!
1. What about your sign do you know that is true to your personality\outlook?
2. Pick a player you have played with before in the game and describe their town\scum meta
3. What is town's optimal choice if they receive a fortunate horoscope and why?

[elusive]

One of the horoscopes will be fortunate, and one of them will be unfortunate. The selection of the horoscopes, as well was which player receives them, will be randomized

Why did I think that players could choose? It's obviously random? Therefore, scum cannot choose and would get a random ability?

[farside22]

I didn't realize scum had day talk?

How would they choose without it?

Last game there was no day talk. I just check.

[farside22]

UNFORTUNATE
L-1 Lynch - The player that receives this is lynched at L-1 as opposed to L-0.
Post Restriction - The player that receives this is assigned a post restriction by the moderator.
Secret Admirer - The player that receives this must PM the mod another player to become enamored with. If this chosen player is killed, lynched or modkilled, the player commits suicide during this day/night phase. The chosen player is not effected or informed of this.
Jailed - The player that receives this is locked in jail tonight and cannot commit a night action nor have a night action committed on them. Note: No other player is responsible for this jailing.
No Flip - If the player that receives this is lynched, killed or modkilled, the player's alignment will not reveal during this day/night phase. It will be revealed during the next day/night phase.

Opposite Alignment Empowered - If the player that receives this is town, the scumteam may choose one fortunate horoscope. If the player that receives this is scum, the scumteam may not kill anyone during the next night phase.

Bad Fortune - No effect.
Bad Fortune - No effect.
Bad Fortune - No effect.
Bad Fortune - No effect.

[lane0168]

I'm assuming they had to pick pregame. And they don't have daytalk.

@farside, did you get your horoscope before the game was opened? I'm assuming so since it was your first post.

We can't draw any significant conclusions if no one dies. But it's worth having everyone at least try to daykill if we're trading 1 for 1.

@mod, when did scum pick their fortunate? Were they forced to pick it pregame? There's a couple other clarification questions I've posed. Let me know please if you saw them or if you can't answer them

[Metal Sonic]

okay um

as a dayvig expert im 99% sure this plan wont work the way its intended (what is the way it's intended? to remove the daykill from scum's hands first? so we can play without fear?)

but whatever

daykill: lane0168

[RedCoyote]

@Mod is the daykill public?

Yes, if a person has a daykill, it must be made publicly.

There was some weird rule the last Zodiac where you could post "Daykill: X" in thread and then PM RC privately so it wouldn't count.

I don't recall this... If that was the case, then that's not the case this game.

@mod: is there a rule that says you can submit a daykill via thread and repeal it via pm?

No. This "secret" rule does not exist. I do not recall what Nacho is referring to, but there is no such thing in this game.

@mod, I noticed in zodiac 1 you announced the fortune and the recipient was secret. Here the recipient is known and the fortune is secret. Is that deliberate?

Yes.

@mod, when did scum pick their fortunate? Were they forced to pick it pregame? There's a couple other clarification questions I've posed. Let me know please if you saw them or if you can't answer them

The selection was made prior to the start of the day phase.

Mysterious and alluring individuals, most Pisces are extremely talented, but even though they are gifted in many ways, they still manage to spend most of their lives battling "confusing" conditions. Pisces is the sign symbolised by the image of two fish. Their symbol depicts one fish heading upward, the other pulling downward. This mirrors how Pisceans are frequently torn between two pathways in life, or actually do live two very different existences at the same time.

"The massive bulk of the earth does indeed shrink to insignificance in comparison with the size of the heavens." - Nicolaus Copernicus

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Vote Count 1 - 1

• Marquis (2) ( KayP - startfromtheheart)
  Ricastle (2) ( farside22 - Metal Sonic)
  Aronis (2) ( elusive - lane0168)
  
  startfromtheheart (1) (
  Aronis
  - Ricastle)
  Metal Sonic (1) ( Mainez)
  lane0168 (1) ( Marquis)
  
  Nachomamma8 (0) (

  lane0168

  )
  Mainez (0) (

  Metal Sonic

  )
  
  
  Not Voting (3) (
  Aronis
  -
  lane0168
  -
  Marquis
  - Tammy -
  elusive
  -
  Ricastle
  -
  farside22
  -
  Mainez
  -
  KayP
  - Nachomamma8 -
  Metal Sonic
  -
  startfromtheheart
  - Aronis)

With twelve alive, it takes seven to lynch.
Current Deadline:

(expired on 2015-07-14 18:05:00)

[Aronis]

I really doubt that this is actually going to work. I think the mod would have came up with something to avoid the game being broken like this.

i don't get why you're not willing to go along with this, there's essentially no harm because if you do not have the daykill then all is fine.

I'm doing it, I just think there's a 99% chance it doesn't work. Farside could be lying, I highly doubt they had to pick right away so they could still be discussing it atm, or we could be saying the wrong words.

Why would you think I'm lying

I don't have any reason to believe you are at this point. But it is a possibility.

[Tammy]

Okay thanks farside. I'll get this down eventually, probably tomorrow. I'm not going to try today as I'm exhausted as fuck and literally just thought oh hey wouldn't it be funny if nacho was scum and I misread him but took him out with a daykill and laughed for a minute before it dawned on me that I don't have one.

I share these things because I think it's important that everyone knows what an idiot I can be. Especially when tired.

There was something I didn't like about ricastle but I need to go back and read in context. Reminder for myself for tomorrow.

[lane0168]

okay um

as a dayvig expert im 99% sure this plan wont work the way its intended (what is the way it's intended? to remove the daykill from scum's hands first? so we can play without fear?)

but whatever

daykill: lane0168

I figured it would be a way to out scum of there was a daykill. Starting to look like theres not.

Tammy. Daykill someone. Are you not reading? Someone that hasn't been picked yet

[Tammy]

I did. You even have me as targeting macho in your list.

[Tammy]

Nacho. I swear autocorrect is killing me.

[elusive]

Why is Nacho making up rules that doesn't exist? :O

[Metal Sonic]

okay um

as a dayvig expert im 99% sure this plan wont work the way its intended (what is the way it's intended? to remove the daykill from scum's hands first? so we can play without fear?)

but whatever

daykill: lane0168

I figured it would be a way to out scum of there was a daykill. Starting to look like theres not.

Tammy. Daykill someone. Are you not reading? Someone that hasn't been picked yet

It's not going to out scum because scum can privately pm the day kill to the mod lol

What on earth are you thinking

Anyway I am going to respond more later

[Metal Sonic]

<3 elusive

[startfromtheheart]

Nacho>mainez
lane>start
start>farside
elusive>marquis
kayp>marquis
ricastle>metal
tammy>nacho
mainez>elusive

Metal sonic - lane
Aronis - elusive

[startfromtheheart]

Yes, if a person has a daykill, it must be made publicly.

[startfromtheheart]

Only farside and Marquis haven't done a 'daykill' yet

[Marquis]

daykill kayp

[lane0168]

I did. You even have me as targeting macho in your list.

Ha. Sorry. Foot, securely inserted in mouth

[lane0168]

What's the difference between vanilla townie and townie?

[farside22]

I'm assuming they had to pick pregame. And they don't have daytalk.

@farside, did you get your horoscope before the game was opened? I'm assuming so since it was your first post.

We can't draw any significant conclusions if no one dies. But it's worth having everyone at least try to daykill if we're trading 1 for 1.

@mod, when did scum pick their fortunate? Were they forced to pick it pregame? There's a couple other clarification questions I've posed. Let me know please if you saw them or if you can't answer them

I got the misfortune pregame.

Only farside and Marquis haven't done a 'daykill' yet

I didn't see why I should, then I realized why.

Day kill: Tammy

[Mainez]

so... if nothing happens, does that mean scum didn't pick the day kill?

(oh now you guys know i didn't get the day kill too lol)