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Post Post #1675 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:30 am

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In post 1673, geists wrote:
In post 1672, Svenskt Stål wrote:
Ffer
, i think we are playing our first town town game.


Not so! Polygamy and that horrible Donner Party game.


Oh! And the borkgame micro!
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Post Post #1676 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:44 am

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It is ludicrous how hard it is to get a shos lynch.
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Post Post #1677 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:47 am

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In post 1676, Majiffy wrote:It is ludicrous how hard it is to get a shos lynch.


This made me laugh.

By the way, why is Nero not hung yet? Does anyone actually believe Nero to be town?
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Post Post #1678 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:53 am

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In post 1676, Majiffy wrote:It is ludicrous how hard it is to get a shos lynch.

That's because people are actively opposing the lynch. I know I'm one of them. You haven't addressed my issues with the idea of a Shos lynch, though you do drift through occasionally and kind of scream 'shos must die!' every now and then, which I suppose will wear me down eventually - it's just a question of if it happens prior to deadline :lol:

You also haven't responded to me about the Nero follow up question yet, which made me cry into my pistachios. It was a sad day all around after that.
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Post Post #1679 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:00 am

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Most of my readinf and posting has been on the phone the last week and a half so any kind of big casework is impossible. On top of that, this game moves too fast with way too little actually worth reading. If people would dtop having 10 page dickswinging egofights that have nothing to do with alignment, maybe id bother reading more.

Why dont you post a tldr of what you want me to answer?
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Post Post #1680 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:05 am

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Here ye go for all who are willing to read. I had to disable the smilies though.
Spoiler:
In post 36, Young and Beautiful wrote:VOTE: Abomination

- y -

RVS vote on Abomination that I'm going to read to far into because I feel like it.
In post 117, Young and Beautiful wrote:We should policy lynch this

VOTE: Abomination

Everyone who has a vote on the monster above gets a smooch! :*

- b -

This is one of the many posts that are like why the fuck was this necessary?
In post 175, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 159, Abomination wrote:Katsuki is probtown; policy lynches are bad.

-B_E

In post 165, Abomination wrote:Whoa, whoa whoa.

Kasuki, you come in here, make 24 posts of ABSOLUTELY FLUFFY NONSENSE over the span of two pages...and WE need to be lynched? Bullshit.

Vote: Kasuki



The exact reason why we need to policy lynch this Abomination!


Also, note to self: Katsuki =/= Kagami

- b -

Ummm... What? We need to policy lynch them because B_E was being volatile B_E?
In post 176, Young and Beautiful wrote:On a more serious note, I do think shos is scum.

- b -

Okay. Good for you. I would vote a scum read over a policy every day of the week. This means close to nothing with no vote.
In post 179, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 177, T S O wrote:
In post 176, Young and Beautiful wrote:On a more serious note, I do think shos is scum.

- b -


why?


Because *smooch* :*

- b -

A post that is like why the fuck was this necessary?
In post 291, Young and Beautiful wrote:You guys need more love :*

Mhork and Mastin should give each other a huggle! Then this unfriendliness can be over! :)

Also, PL Abomination OR lynch shos scum.

- b -

Please tell
why
shos is scum. And no, it's not "because *smooch*"
In post 304, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 300, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:On a serious note, where's your vote?

You really find a PL better than someone you think is scum?


I've never actually seen a real PL materialize before. If Abomination wagon actually goes though, I would be pleasantly surprised.

shos can probably get lynched tomorrow or vigged. Or killed by another scumteam, considering that you claimed it was multiball.

- b -

I really hate it when people do this. They push something to the side for a stupid lynch, be it policy or just stupid, and act like it will be taken care of later. I hate it and it just oozes scummy to me.
In post 465, Young and Beautiful wrote:My prayers have been answered!

A shos wagon!

Up we go!

VOTE: shos



On a more serious note...
This game is pretty easy. I've almost cracked the game.

If shos flips scum, mastin is his partner.
Reasoning: Soft defense of shos, attempting to dispel the wagon as a third-party. Now take into account that shos "claimed" sesshomaru. This is obviously fake, probably to bait and counterclaim the real sesshomaru, or to seem town to fakeclaim a power role in future. No real sesshomaru, considering the flavor+power involved, would ever claim. This lets me infer that shos is a scum PR. Mastin's defense makes a ton of sense.

T S O and Rhaego are also scum. Both of them appear to be working in tandem, highly likely to be on the other scumteam as mastin/shos. This is only page 19, I do not have a lot of info to go off, and we can only lynch one scum per day. I'll check up on these scumreads later when more information is to be gained.

Also, I love how this game is going at an acceptable pace! I almost feared that it would be a monster, with the 28 players. What a relief!

- b -

What. The. Fuck. TSO and Rhaego in tandem? Rhaego isn't fucking talking, so that can't be, how the fuck is an Always/Shos team possible because of soft defense, because that logic 99% of the time isn't true. The scum team is usually in the people not defending. Then shos vote because the wagon materialized... why didn't you vote sooner? Like, if you scum read someone, you vote them.
In post 466, Young and Beautiful wrote:@mod please help me fix the tags

I'm assuming that's what you wanted.

Okay
In post 467, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 455, Birds of Prey wrote:

Young and Beautiful, about how many games have each of you played?


You first.

I... why? Why not just answer the question? Another post that doesn't need to exist.
In post 471, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 468, shos wrote:I don't get it.
If I am lynched for 'claiming sesshumaru' I am gonna lol at you all with .y finger pointed at your nose

You will never lynch me if I claim. Lets halt at that. So if you guys are willing to, grab some more votes and Ill xlaim so we dont waste time


Well, then you're in hot soup at this point. If your claim is legitimate, you die by nightkill. Otherwise, hang by noose.

I recommend more strategic play in your future games; town or scum whatever you are. I hope you don't enjoy usually being a Day 1 lynch in games?

- b -

There's a little role called a doctor. And insulting someones play when yours as a hydra has been far less than stellar? Nope. This is the point where I was starting get I can't tell if they are really derpy town or scum.
In post 480, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 473, T S O wrote:Dear Young and Beautiful,

Rhaego and I are not "working in tandem". I'm not even Townreading him. If you want to make a bullshit accusation, go back it up. You won't be able to.

Thanks, TSO.


Okay, Rhaego and you are not working in tandem. You didn't deny that you're scum though, so thanks for letting us know that Rhaego isn't on your team.

I can read you like a book, sir TheSexiOne.

- b -

Wha... What the fuck is this. "You didn't deny it so you're scum" is one of the most ridiculous words strung together in a game of mafia.
In post 487, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 481, T S O wrote:"Fine, you haven't worked with him ...BUT YOU NEVER SAID YOU WERE
NOT
SCUM!"


By the way, your full response in the quoted post was a scum response. I can feel your nervousness and anxiousness right now.

"Shit, how did he catch me? I'll deflect..."

Here's a smooch to calm you down :*

- b -

This is ridiculous. You make a fallacious argument then back it up with, oh that's right, my best scum tell that I've ever had the sense to use.
In post 489, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 481, T S O wrote:what?

"TSO and Rhaego are working in tandem and are on a scumteam!"
"We're clearly not? We're not backing each other up at all? Back up your accusation."
"Fine, you haven't worked with him ...BUT YOU NEVER SAID YOU WERE SCUM!"

this train of thought probably comes from town but it's really bad.


this one sir


yes. So anxious. Such nervous. Much misrep. Wow.
In post 491, Young and Beautiful wrote:No, if you're indeed a member of the scum, you do not want to reply to my above line of questioning any more.

I'll just Let it Go~~~, Let it Go~~

I won't look at that any-more~~

- b -

Oh, isn't this another post that fucking goes back to my parallelism.
In post 494, Young and Beautiful wrote:Oh my gosh! B, why are you smooching people without me? :x

- y -

Get a room.
In post 495, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 481, T S O wrote:what?

"TSO and Rhaego are working in tandem and are on a scumteam!"
"We're clearly not? We're not backing each other up at all? Back up your accusation."
"Fine, you haven't worked with him ...BUT YOU NEVER SAID YOU WERE SCUM!"

this train of thought probably comes from town but it's really bad.


Stop misrepping my girlfriend! B clearly said you were scum! :x

- y -

He never said she didn't. Much misrep. Wow.
In post 496, Young and Beautiful wrote:
T S O
, I'm glad you don't seem quite as vitriolic as usual, but I've seen you deathtunnel as both scum and town. Yet in this game you seem to actually be making attempts to think logically and make sound judgments! What's wrong, baby? :x

- y -

Is not tunneling bad? Again, was this post needed?
In post 497, Young and Beautiful wrote:Oh gosh, the "baby" at the end of that sentence sounds so awkward! Please forgive me, it was really quite hard to find a pet name that suited you once I put my mind to it! :x

- y -

ugh... useless posts are useless.
In post 498, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 487, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 481, T S O wrote:"Fine, you haven't worked with him ...BUT YOU NEVER SAID YOU WERE SCUM!" (original)

"Fine, you haven't worked with him ...BUT YOU NEVER SAID YOU WERE
NOT
SCUM!" ("not" change added by B to emphasize T S O's scumslip)


By the way, your full response in the quoted post was a scum response. I can feel your nervousness and anxiousness right now.

"Shit, how did he catch me? I'll deflect..."

Here's a smooch to calm you down :*

- b -


Fufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufu! :x

Smooches back, B! *:

VOTE: T S O

- y -

Bad vote is bad.
In post 499, Young and Beautiful wrote:Oooh, a pagetop!

Mr. Cephrir, would you like to edit your votecount into my post? I would be so honored to accept your presence below me!


:x

- y -

Nope, no pagetop for you.

Another useless post but it made me laugh a bit.
In post 501, Young and Beautiful wrote:The offer still stands!

:* ~smooches~ :*

:x

- y -

Useless post that didn't make me laugh. Although the flat out rejection did.
In post 502, Young and Beautiful wrote:I am so sad

- y -

Okay. Good for you.
In post 509, Young and Beautiful wrote:Oh, T S O! Hello there! You may or may not be right!~

But ask yourself: would Cho do
this
?

:* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* ~smooches~ :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* ~smooches~ :* ~smooches~ :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* ~smooches~ :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* ~smooches~ :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* ~smooches~ :*

Hmm? Would they? :x

- y -

What does this have to do with being Cho or not?
In post 510, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 504, Egg wrote:*sigh*

That's not a slip.


And you're not an egg! :x

- y -

No, he's definitely an egg. I was one of the people that had to put him back together after he fell off the wall. It's not a slip.

In post 528, Young and Beautiful wrote:Ooh hoo hoo!

- y -

Oh, would you look at that.
another
useless post!
In post 559, Young and Beautiful wrote:Cop Always. This needs to be sorted.

- b -

This was addressed, but I feel the need to say this- I hate it when people do this. The PR isn't going to listen to you. It's not gonna happen. It purely and simply is a ploy for town-cred, even if you didn't intend it to be.
In post 561, Young and Beautiful wrote:I don't have a read on Venmar, dearie ~

- b -

Answering a question...
In post 565, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 564, geists wrote:
In post 559, Young and Beautiful wrote:Cop Always. This needs to be sorted.

- b -


explain, plz.


If you think you can scumhunt Mastin with 100% certainty, I bid you go right ahead! I'll nominate you for Town MVP!

- b -

Okay. Let's wait a couple days and I'll have this sorted out, so then I'll get a nom.
In post 568, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 566, T S O wrote:Odds are he's Town, he has no reason to withhold reads as scum - it's still annoying as fuck.


If you point to any single random player, odds are that they'll be Town rather than Scum. Basic probability.

geists, how confident are you that AP is Town then? 100%?


Do you think you can read AP with 100% certainty then?

Answer yes and you might be a candidate for a scummie!~

- b -

Holy SHIT it's actually a good post!
In post 569, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 567, geists wrote:The timing of your request looks a little odd given how things are shaping up with Mastin and the Iece slot.


And my request is directly in response to Mastin's response to Iece. It was certainly the intention that I wished to convey.

Please explain how it is "a little odd".

- b -

Seriously, you are getting on a roll here!
In post 572, Young and Beautiful wrote:The fairly significant replace-in did not make an impression on me; I would say that it is irrelevant to my post.

Indeed, Mastin should be copped in any game, preferably earlier so she gets less time to pull strings as scum, and perpetual safety as town.

This is Day 1, and reasonably early in the game. I find nothing wrong with the timing of the post.

- b -

Hey, you
do
have a spine!
In post 578, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 558, Always wrote:
In post 551, AngryIcerink wrote:You've got like 2 posts to convince me you aren't multi-scum this game (I am correct in stating this is multiball?; for some reason I think it is but UI havent really read).
Fuck
no.


You've got it rat's-ass backwards. I owe you absolutely nothing.
NOTHING.
Of the sort.

This game.
This game.

It's
you
the burden is on.

Your entry was null-at-best.
BEST.

One post down.
One to go.

You try pinning your scummy-ass BoP on me, I'm speedlynching you.


This post in particular sparked my response.

That is all there is.

What do you wish to accomplish from this line of questioning?

- b -

This is covered here-
In post 582, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 579, geists wrote:
In post 578, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 558, Always wrote:
In post 551, AngryIcerink wrote:You've got like 2 posts to convince me you aren't multi-scum this game (I am correct in stating this is multiball?; for some reason I think it is but UI havent really read).
Fuck
no.


You've got it rat's-ass backwards. I owe you absolutely nothing.
NOTHING.
Of the sort.

This game.
This game.

It's
you
the burden is on.

Your entry was null-at-best.
BEST.

One post down.
One to go.

You try pinning your scummy-ass BoP on me, I'm speedlynching you.


This post in particular sparked my response.

That is all there is.

What do you wish to accomplish from this line of questioning?

- b -


I wish to develop a read of you.

What in particular about that post sparked the cop request?


Nothing in particular. The fact of Mastin being impossible to read with 100% certainty requires that she be copped very early.

At best, I can only do 99% ;)

- b -

Wha.. then it's just the whole post? Or did you just want to get town cred...

In post 584, Young and Beautiful wrote:I'm not fishing for a PR claim, nor am I trying to get them to respond to me. Whatever any hypothetical PR wishes to do with their night action is entirely their responsibility.

At the very most, I can give them incentive... with a smooch :*

I don't want to get involved in mafia discussion. Mastin, however, may gladly accommodate you. She can discuss mafia theory with you as a player; regardless if she is town or scum :)

I'm only interested in finding scum.

- b -

Well you sure aren't doing a good job at it.
In post 586, Young and Beautiful wrote:Okay then.

I kindly request for a change of this line of questioning.

Would you like to sort me with other topics of discussion/questions?

- b -

And now that roll you had going? Yeah, it disappeared. What's wrong with answering those questions?
In post 625, Young and Beautiful wrote:I like Venmar. He agrees with me.

I dislike Always. Snape is overrated.

- y -

A couple of reads. I like the Always read.
In post 626, Young and Beautiful wrote:Why, Mr. Cephrir, I believe I've found another pagetop! Hooray!

- y -

Another useless post.
In post 629, Young and Beautiful wrote:This is your first post in 82+102 posts. As a monstrous hydra...

How does that make you feel?


- y -

What are you trying to accomplish, exactly?
In post 632, Young and Beautiful wrote:That was my other head, but I actually agree with them on some accounts. It's ridiculous to say that we're scum because they suggested to a hypothetical Cop who to target at night. I don't get why people are screaming about it at all!

- y -

Because you don't
do it
as town. You do
as scum
to get town cred!
In post 634, Young and Beautiful wrote:
Who
's speaking here?

- y -

It's obvious they aren't gonna sign their posts.
In post 645, Young and Beautiful wrote:Egg is my favorite. I prefer soft-boiled over anything else, of course.

- y -

I thought he wasn't an egg?
In post 647, Young and Beautiful wrote:Hmmm. Perhaps an exclamation point would do much better to set the tone of our post above, no?

- y -

Another useless post.
In post 673, Young and Beautiful wrote:Ah! Somebody claimed already? And I missed it?

Our fishing trip is going horribly! :x

- y -

Wait, I thought you weren't fishing?
In post 710, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 703, Nero Cain wrote:'cause its a 28 player game so there's going to be a butt load of scum and there's no traction for lynching abomination but just LOOK at Shos and he's really doing nothing. Why do you have a town read on him?


I strongly agree with this. We can only lynch once a day.

Leave the scum-killing to the vigs. There's bound to be some; in 28p.

Or scum cross-killing is great too.


PSA: lol, didn't know that geists was a Nata/ffery hydra. Thought they were some random single player whom I've never heard of.

- b -

Yes, let's just lynch PL's the whole game because that's going to work out marvelously!
In post 741, Young and Beautiful wrote:Twenty-eight players and multiple hydrae of varying sizes make for quite a large game! :x

- y -

No shit Sherlock.
In post 798, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 797, T S O wrote:he has done fuck-all and he continually tells us he will. and then doesn't.



80% of the time this is a scumtell.

Y, why did you move my vote to T S O? He is at least amusing scum. Shos doesn't even bother to put up a performance!

VOTE: shos

- b -

No it's not. It means he doesn't care about the game or is lazy. Or both.
In post 810, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 800, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 798, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 797, T S O wrote:he has done fuck-all and he continually tells us he will. and then doesn't.



80% of the time this is a scumtell.

Y, why did you move my vote to T S O? He is at least amusing scum. Shos doesn't even bother to put up a performance!

VOTE: shos

- b -


Your post is awkward as hell. We


Hmmm. B already knows how to flirt like a maniac, though! Perhaps this is just an off day for her?

UNVOTE:

VOTE:
T S O


- y -

Sheesh, you guys are more waffley than dice and I were.
In post 823, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 811, T S O wrote:Will the two of you PLEASE get a QT so you can make up your mind instead of projecting your dissonance like your
assets
.


Now, THAT, is funny.

The double entendre.

- b -

I don't get it. What's so important.
In post 942, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 926, Birds of Prey wrote:Boys, the dick measuring contest is off in the corner.

Can we stick to scumhunting please? For instance, why do we have a bunch of lurksacks sitting on shos who have done nothing to forward that wagon when we have Young and Beautiful posting shit content?

- Venus Fly Trap -


Speak for yourself, dearie~ :*


In other news, I don't have any flavor knowledge whatsoever.

- b -

Well, they're speaking for me as well. And nobody cares if you have no flavor knowledge. If you did, you would've said something already.
In post 1039, Young and Beautiful wrote:And at last I see the light-

UNVOTE:

VOTE: shos

-and it's like the fog has lifted!

- y -

Wafflewafflewaffle but this is a terri-bad post because shos was actually starting to make town moves instead of no moves.
In post 1056, Young and Beautiful wrote:shos is using metadefense.

Considering that I have barely played with this user before, I'm going to ignore them.

- b -

Metadefense isn't a scumtell. If it was then mastin should be insta-lynched.
In post 1188, Young and Beautiful wrote::*

It's strange how deadline is more than two weeks away...

so long, so long~~
(this game is huge)
- b -

Another useless post.
In post 1190, Young and Beautiful wrote::*
(hugs and kisses)

- b -

I hate hugs. And kisses. And to be handed things.
In post 1258, Young and Beautiful wrote:Why should they when you're voting
me
?

- y -

Because you are scum(I'm still sad that geists changed the vote...)
In post 1260, Young and Beautiful wrote:Come on, babe,
talk
to
me
. I'll make it worth your while. ;)

- y -

If worth their while means talking about nothing that means anything and a ton of bad physical contact that express erotic emotions then yes, it will be.
In post 1265, Young and Beautiful wrote:I'm not acting like a prostitute, I'm acting like a
temptress
. Big difference, babe.

- y -

Pretty damn close.
In post 1267, Young and Beautiful wrote:Oh no!

T S O
, what do you suggest I post next, then, to escape the rope?

- y -

Another useless post that shouldn't even need to be answered.
In post 1269, Young and Beautiful wrote:Let's not wagon Young and Beautiful either; I'm leaning town on them too...

- y -

No, I like the wagon. You should hop on, especially because my parallelism is about to go full blast.
In post 1274, Young and Beautiful wrote:Well, then! Let's give it a try:

a) I think
T S O
is trying to distance his playstyle in this game from his playstyle in his recent scum games.

b) VOTE:
T S O


c) I think
T S O
is trying to distance his playstyle in this game from his playstyle in his recent scum games. VOTE:
T S O

Playstyles are going to change from game to game no matter what. You can look at my games. The only similarities you will find in most of them are that I don't do much for the first 20-25 pages and then that I absorb information and other shit and transfer it over to other games. Playstyle change != scumtell.
In post 1278, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1273, Always wrote:I don't need to convince anyone that I'm town. It's self-evident. What I'm doing now is basically just toying with you, laughing at you, smirking at you being either scum or utterly, entirely, 100% ignorant in your own arrogance. (Yes, I'm arrogant, no it's not unjustified when I'm up against shit like this.)


Ewww!

Icky, icky!

- y -

Not needed at all even though I like it.
In post 1280, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1275, T S O wrote:PEdit: well done, good girl. still bitter from AAA? you couldn't touch me as scum.


Ewww!

Icky, icky!

- y -

Now this is just not needed and I don't like it.
In post 1288, Young and Beautiful wrote:I'm getting a different vibe from how it sounds like she always has to reaffirm that she knows she's being arrogant. You can say it's genuine and unabashed but the overall feeling I'm getting is a very self-aware tone, so I'm not at all convinced that she can't fake it with how often she's acknowledging it and pointing it out!

- y -

Well no SHIT sherlock she's mastin.
In post 1294, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1292, geists wrote:Why are you coaching Y&B?


Because I don't know how to play mafia. :(

Will you help me out too? I can offer smooches in return!~ :*

- y -

NO fucking thank you another useless post.
In post 1299, Young and Beautiful wrote:Why are people voting xofelf, by the way?

I don't think MafiaScum's ready for that kind of leadership.

- y -

This makes no sense at all.
In post 1301, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1298, Always wrote:My scumread on Y&B and on xofelf are both not arrogance. They're stronger, but not absolute.


So, should I treat xofelf as confirmed town because you're supposedly scumreading her in the same manner as you are me?

- y -

I like the sassy part of this post.
In post 1304, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1302, T S O wrote:That's a derisive tone I use to people who can barely play.


Teach me, sir! Teach me well!

- y -

Okay, shut up now.
In post 1307, Young and Beautiful wrote:(I may quite possibly take offense to your choice to attach a negative connotation to the phrase "little girl", however!)

- y -
Understandable.
In post 1324, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1310, T S O wrote:I tried to help YnB and she voted me out of the fucking blue. I have no interest in talking to her anymore, and I'll openly say that's terrible townplay and terrible townplay is done by a terrible townplayer.


In post 1311, T S O wrote:I actually think she's scum, to be fair, but still.


Ewww!

Icky, icky!

- y -
Yay! A good post!
In post 1328, Young and Beautiful wrote:Oh! One last thing~

T S O
, I hope you find it within yourself to realize that at times you can be much, much worse than the people you call out for arrogance or bad play, simply due to the fact that regardless of alignment, your personal attacks often carry more than enough toxicity to completely ruin multiple individuals' motivations to participate at all.

- y -

That's two in a row! Let's see if we can get to three again!
In post 1331, Young and Beautiful wrote:You helped me find the confidence to vote my own scumread instead of just sheeping onto a wagon that looks decent.

See, I'm not sacrificing my actual scumread for the sake of appearing "acceptable" read-wise! Artistic integrity and all that shit.

Aren't you
proud
?

- y -

Aaaaand nope. She's being cocky and arrogant. And enters... my parallelism!
In post 1334, Young and Beautiful wrote:Oooh, it's gotten all quiet here, hasn't it?...

I suppose most people aren't comfortable with getting caught up in actual conflict. I don't blame them; usually I'm one of them.

- y -

~Post-Edit~
: When did I ever say that I
liked
you? As far as I can remember, you've been pinging, pinging,
pinging
for me!

For the record, you're slipping back into your AAA scumplay.

Big, big words about catching and confirming scum (oh, particularly the catching, so much of that
"caught scum"
), before they flip town and everyone ignores how you blindly and arrogantly tunneled your mislynch of choice because "it's okay, T S O was just really wrong, but he's got to be town, so he'll get 'em next time!"

It's getting worse...
In post 1335, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1332, T S O wrote:you literally did not show one evolution from "i like tso" to "tso #1 scum". not one.

I know you are scum, so I have no idea why you're trying to be offended, but at least learn decent scumplay. you don't have a hope of surviving through this game
because you've been caught
.

AND THERE WE GO. Brushing TSO off because the he's scum.
In post 1333, T S O wrote:that, by the way, is NOT FUCKING COACHING, IT IS ME
TELLING A SCUM PLAYER THEY ARE FUCKED


In post 34, T S O wrote:Hang this, thanks.

When she flips scum
I'm conftown, by the way.

In post 36, T S O wrote:But
there's caught scum in Cho
so sheep me.

In post 81, T S O wrote:Well, the first post is me stating openly I'm going to consider myself conftown
when Cho flips scum
, and the second is me explaining how Cho's reason for voting me is scummy. I'm not particularly trying to look Town in either of them, Jargonaut, so you might have to try a little harder.


It's all the same kind of grandiose mislynch targetting! The more confident you can fake being, the more likely you can push your scum bullshit through!~

- y -

And this is exactly what my parallelism goes for! I think I can upgrade this to a general tell now that it has worked on I believe four separate occasions without fail.
In post 1338, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 0, N wrote:T S O
All-Around Aggregator
, Jack of All Trades,
Aliens
, survived,
wins!


Cho,
Average Anybody
, Vanilla Townie,
Angels
, lynched day 1


Just a dash of context, and now we can go put this in the oven at 450°F for just an hour...

- y -

Lol not context. I think we can actually swap the roles right now.
In post 1339, Young and Beautiful wrote:I still find it amusing that after all this, you're still abysmally far off as to who I actually am!

- y -

Again, if this Elyse I will shit myself.
In post 1341, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1336, T S O wrote:please stop trying to draw parallels between here and AAA.


Shut up, scumfuck! You've been
caught
~

- y -

And now she spirals ever downward.
In post 1346, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1340, T S O wrote:THIS GAME IS NOT AAA

MY SCUMGAME WOULD NOT HAVE ME IN THIS POSITION

I ACTUALLY LOOK TOWN WHEN I'M SCUM

I PROBABLY SCUMHUNT BETTER AS SCUM


Your usage of all capital letters indicates that you feel pressured. Hmmm... is it because I'm on the entirely right track?

It
is
, isn't it!?

Die, scum! Die! Die! Die!

- y -

*sigh* bad post in general, not to mention, " "
In post 1349, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1342, T S O wrote:I don't care who you are; why the hell are you obsessed with AAA?


You seemed
mean
in that game.

Perhaps I was simply...
aroused
.

- y -

Ummm... awkward? He's being pretty damn mean this game too...
In post 1350, Young and Beautiful wrote:Is that an acceptable answer?

- y -

No. It's not.
In post 1353, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1347, T S O wrote:like you do not have the first clue of my scummeta - I have never, ever seen anyone who does. so for you to start quoting posts from AAA for no reason is just stupid.


Oh no, please don't try to replicate Mastinplay,
JESUS
no~

- y -

Heh. Funny. But TSO has a point... would reference more of his games please?
In post 1354, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1351, T S O wrote:yes, capitals are a sign of my utter frustration. you got that right. gj.


Shut up, scumfuck! You've been caught caught
caught
~~~

- y -

spiral, spiral, spiral...
In post 1357, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1356, T S O wrote:how exactly do you think you've caught me?


Well, at the very least you're scum who's very
angry
about being "caught" for the wrong reasons!

- y -

spiral, spiral, spiral...
In post 1358, Young and Beautiful wrote:
So I have taken this decision with the confidence that action is necessary, and that we will not be acting alone. Our goal is focused, our cause is just, and our coalition is strong. Thank you very much.


- y -

Ummm... Is this supposed to be a quote? Because it isn't very fitting at all.
In post 1363, Young and Beautiful wrote:Why,
T S O
, I should think that I deserve more than just the
leftovers
from your sexy, scummy rage!

In fact, I distinctly remember ordering a full
entree
of it, my dear!

~Post-Edit~
: Ummm,
Birds of Prey
, I can
too
analyze other players in the game!

- y -

This post is horrible. Like, really, what the fuck is this... sleaziness?
In post 1364, Young and Beautiful wrote:Here, watch!:

Birds of Prey:
You're wrong and full of holier-than-thou shit. You may also possibly be scum.

There we go! I've analyzed the gamestate!

Three cheers for
me
~~~

- y -

FALSE! That also means that every cocky person here would possibly be scum! Which is pretty much everyone.
In post 1368, Young and Beautiful wrote:Wait,
T S O
!:

Let's just pretend for a moment that I'm not confirmation biasing my scumread on you, and that I'm not loving every sensual second of it.

With that in mind:

How much of your "scumread" on
Venmar
is derived from the fact that he has dared to go against the Holy One Himself with a well-placed vote on you?

- y -

~Post-Edit~
: Why, dear,
OMGUS
is only but a symptom, not a cause!

The
cause
of my dislike of the position you've taken is you being focused on a fruitless rally cry for content while simultaneously ignoring other contentless slots, and failing yourself to produce anything distinctly memorable.

The
symptom
of that is poor little me in the corner here, easily susceptible to cries of "OMGUS!" that pointlessly push aside any actual opinions that I have.

~Post-Edit-2~
: Oh, were you in that game, too?...

You
were
, weren't you!? Under that "Riptide" moniker!

I'm so glad to see that you're probably still town as before, even if your sour reads and nasty misinterpretation habits haven't changed a bit!

I hate this post with every fiber of my being. It's not the kind of post I normally hate. But saying TSO isn't putting forth any content is actually quite bullshit. He's creating content by forcing you to do shit. On the other hand, you've only done so for a total of like seven posts.
In post 1369, Young and Beautiful wrote:Oh dear, dear, dear. I seem to have misplaced a slash, and now there's an ugly little BBCode stain marring one of my beautiful posts...

- y -

Okay. Good for you.
In post 1370, Young and Beautiful wrote:Speaking of
beautiful
, where are you, B? I need you to rein me in before I do something I might actually regret in the morning!

- y -

You already have.
In post 1372, Young and Beautiful wrote:If you want a serious answer, since the situation seems to demand one for once, I'm focusing on what comes to me.

There are 27 other slots in this game. I'm not willing to actively analyze every single one.

"But Young and Beautiful, that's what mafia's all about!"

Maybe. It's pointless if nobody's going to listen. Most Day 1s are filled with a lot of noise that barely anyone goes back to. I'm spending my time making light of it, and while in theory I should probably try to come up with some opinions on more than just the select few players that are popping out to me, I'm probably not going to.

Personally, I believe that at this point in the game focusing on what sticks out to me is much more productive than trying to focus on everything at once, and as a result spreading myself too thin.

When I am inevitably mislynched and inevitably flip town (I don't think anyone's townreading me at this point, which is to be expected after my outbursts but a shame anyway), I think it'd be better if I died with lasting opinions on select players and subjects because that's what I focused on trying to analyze, rather than straining myself to find a read on other players that'll only end in ideas even I don't believe anymore,

In short, I'm not going to play the whole "full votecount analysis and full playerlist reads" game because nobody really cares or is going to care in the end anyway. It's like the idea of inception, and I'm going to focus on the reads I think are important, and drive deep to try and make them stick even after I flip.

- y -

Okay. Good post. Now where the fuck did you two go?


No breaking the thread. I'm assuming this is what you were going for.
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Post Post #1681 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:05 am

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wa.... I don't... no... What the fuck did ms just do to my post.
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Post Post #1682 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:10 am

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you messed up the end but I got a pile of laughs from that. you can be town!
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #1684 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:13 am

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it -is- Cho, by the way; the italics make it obvious.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #1685 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:40 am

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First ever phone post! I am v/la until I get my computer fixed. Will update tomorrow after I call Dell.
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Post Post #1686 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:45 am

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In post 1685, Ner+Far wrote:First ever phone post! I am v/la until I get my computer fixed. Will update tomorrow after I call Dell.

Is this supposed to be nero?
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Post Post #1687 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:15 am

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In post 1680, HighShroomish wrote:Here ye go for all who are willing to read. I had to disable the smilies though.
Spoiler:
In post 36, Young and Beautiful wrote:VOTE: Abomination

- y -

RVS vote on Abomination that I'm going to read to far into because I feel like it.
In post 117, Young and Beautiful wrote:We should policy lynch this

VOTE: Abomination

Everyone who has a vote on the monster above gets a smooch! :*

- b -

This is one of the many posts that are like why the fuck was this necessary?
In post 175, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 159, Abomination wrote:Katsuki is probtown; policy lynches are bad.

-B_E

In post 165, Abomination wrote:Whoa, whoa whoa.

Kasuki, you come in here, make 24 posts of ABSOLUTELY FLUFFY NONSENSE over the span of two pages...and WE need to be lynched? Bullshit.

Vote: Kasuki



The exact reason why we need to policy lynch this Abomination!


Also, note to self: Katsuki =/= Kagami

- b -

Ummm... What? We need to policy lynch them because B_E was being volatile B_E?
In post 176, Young and Beautiful wrote:On a more serious note, I do think shos is scum.

- b -

Okay. Good for you. I would vote a scum read over a policy every day of the week. This means close to nothing with no vote.
In post 179, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 177, T S O wrote:
In post 176, Young and Beautiful wrote:On a more serious note, I do think shos is scum.

- b -


why?


Because *smooch* :*

- b -

A post that is like why the fuck was this necessary?
In post 291, Young and Beautiful wrote:You guys need more love :*

Mhork and Mastin should give each other a huggle! Then this unfriendliness can be over! :)

Also, PL Abomination OR lynch shos scum.

- b -

Please tell
why
shos is scum. And no, it's not "because *smooch*"
In post 304, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 300, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:On a serious note, where's your vote?

You really find a PL better than someone you think is scum?


I've never actually seen a real PL materialize before. If Abomination wagon actually goes though, I would be pleasantly surprised.

shos can probably get lynched tomorrow or vigged. Or killed by another scumteam, considering that you claimed it was multiball.

- b -

I really hate it when people do this. They push something to the side for a stupid lynch, be it policy or just stupid, and act like it will be taken care of later. I hate it and it just oozes scummy to me.
In post 465, Young and Beautiful wrote:My prayers have been answered!

A shos wagon!

Up we go!

VOTE: shos



On a more serious note...
This game is pretty easy. I've almost cracked the game.

If shos flips scum, mastin is his partner.
Reasoning: Soft defense of shos, attempting to dispel the wagon as a third-party. Now take into account that shos "claimed" sesshomaru. This is obviously fake, probably to bait and counterclaim the real sesshomaru, or to seem town to fakeclaim a power role in future. No real sesshomaru, considering the flavor+power involved, would ever claim. This lets me infer that shos is a scum PR. Mastin's defense makes a ton of sense.

T S O and Rhaego are also scum. Both of them appear to be working in tandem, highly likely to be on the other scumteam as mastin/shos. This is only page 19, I do not have a lot of info to go off, and we can only lynch one scum per day. I'll check up on these scumreads later when more information is to be gained.

Also, I love how this game is going at an acceptable pace! I almost feared that it would be a monster, with the 28 players. What a relief!

- b -

What. The. Fuck. TSO and Rhaego in tandem? Rhaego isn't fucking talking, so that can't be, how the fuck is an Always/Shos team possible because of soft defense, because that logic 99% of the time isn't true. The scum team is usually in the people not defending. Then shos vote because the wagon materialized... why didn't you vote sooner? Like, if you scum read someone, you vote them.
In post 466, Young and Beautiful wrote:@mod please help me fix the tags

I'm assuming that's what you wanted.

Okay
In post 467, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 455, Birds of Prey wrote:

Young and Beautiful, about how many games have each of you played?


You first.

I... why? Why not just answer the question? Another post that doesn't need to exist.
In post 471, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 468, shos wrote:I don't get it.
If I am lynched for 'claiming sesshumaru' I am gonna lol at you all with .y finger pointed at your nose

You will never lynch me if I claim. Lets halt at that. So if you guys are willing to, grab some more votes and Ill xlaim so we dont waste time


Well, then you're in hot soup at this point. If your claim is legitimate, you die by nightkill. Otherwise, hang by noose.

I recommend more strategic play in your future games; town or scum whatever you are. I hope you don't enjoy usually being a Day 1 lynch in games?

- b -

There's a little role called a doctor. And insulting someones play when yours as a hydra has been far less than stellar? Nope. This is the point where I was starting get I can't tell if they are really derpy town or scum.
In post 480, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 473, T S O wrote:Dear Young and Beautiful,

Rhaego and I are not "working in tandem". I'm not even Townreading him. If you want to make a bullshit accusation, go back it up. You won't be able to.

Thanks, TSO.


Okay, Rhaego and you are not working in tandem. You didn't deny that you're scum though, so thanks for letting us know that Rhaego isn't on your team.

I can read you like a book, sir TheSexiOne.

- b -

Wha... What the fuck is this. "You didn't deny it so you're scum" is one of the most ridiculous words strung together in a game of mafia.
In post 487, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 481, T S O wrote:"Fine, you haven't worked with him ...BUT YOU NEVER SAID YOU WERE
NOT
SCUM!"


By the way, your full response in the quoted post was a scum response. I can feel your nervousness and anxiousness right now.

"Shit, how did he catch me? I'll deflect..."

Here's a smooch to calm you down :*

- b -

This is ridiculous. You make a fallacious argument then back it up with, oh that's right, my best scum tell that I've ever had the sense to use.
In post 489, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 481, T S O wrote:what?

"TSO and Rhaego are working in tandem and are on a scumteam!"
"We're clearly not? We're not backing each other up at all? Back up your accusation."
"Fine, you haven't worked with him ...BUT YOU NEVER SAID YOU WERE SCUM!"

this train of thought probably comes from town but it's really bad.


this one sir


yes. So anxious. Such nervous. Much misrep. Wow.
In post 491, Young and Beautiful wrote:No, if you're indeed a member of the scum, you do not want to reply to my above line of questioning any more.

I'll just Let it Go~~~, Let it Go~~

I won't look at that any-more~~

- b -

Oh, isn't this another post that fucking goes back to my parallelism.
In post 494, Young and Beautiful wrote:Oh my gosh! B, why are you smooching people without me? :x

- y -

Get a room.
In post 495, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 481, T S O wrote:what?

"TSO and Rhaego are working in tandem and are on a scumteam!"
"We're clearly not? We're not backing each other up at all? Back up your accusation."
"Fine, you haven't worked with him ...BUT YOU NEVER SAID YOU WERE SCUM!"

this train of thought probably comes from town but it's really bad.


Stop misrepping my girlfriend! B clearly said you were scum! :x

- y -

He never said she didn't. Much misrep. Wow.
In post 496, Young and Beautiful wrote:
T S O
, I'm glad you don't seem quite as vitriolic as usual, but I've seen you deathtunnel as both scum and town. Yet in this game you seem to actually be making attempts to think logically and make sound judgments! What's wrong, baby? :x

- y -

Is not tunneling bad? Again, was this post needed?
In post 497, Young and Beautiful wrote:Oh gosh, the "baby" at the end of that sentence sounds so awkward! Please forgive me, it was really quite hard to find a pet name that suited you once I put my mind to it! :x

- y -

ugh... useless posts are useless.
In post 498, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 487, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 481, T S O wrote:"Fine, you haven't worked with him ...BUT YOU NEVER SAID YOU WERE SCUM!" (original)

"Fine, you haven't worked with him ...BUT YOU NEVER SAID YOU WERE
NOT
SCUM!" ("not" change added by B to emphasize T S O's scumslip)


By the way, your full response in the quoted post was a scum response. I can feel your nervousness and anxiousness right now.

"Shit, how did he catch me? I'll deflect..."

Here's a smooch to calm you down :*

- b -


Fufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufufu! :x

Smooches back, B! *:

VOTE: T S O

- y -

Bad vote is bad.
In post 499, Young and Beautiful wrote:Oooh, a pagetop!

Mr. Cephrir, would you like to edit your votecount into my post? I would be so honored to accept your presence below me!


:x

- y -

Nope, no pagetop for you.

Another useless post but it made me laugh a bit.
In post 501, Young and Beautiful wrote:The offer still stands!

:* ~smooches~ :*

:x

- y -

Useless post that didn't make me laugh. Although the flat out rejection did.
In post 502, Young and Beautiful wrote:I am so sad

- y -

Okay. Good for you.
In post 509, Young and Beautiful wrote:Oh, T S O! Hello there! You may or may not be right!~

But ask yourself: would Cho do
this
?

:* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* ~smooches~ :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* ~smooches~ :* ~smooches~ :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* ~smooches~ :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* ~smooches~ :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* ~smooches~ :*

Hmm? Would they? :x

- y -

What does this have to do with being Cho or not?
In post 510, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 504, Egg wrote:*sigh*

That's not a slip.


And you're not an egg! :x

- y -

No, he's definitely an egg. I was one of the people that had to put him back together after he fell off the wall. It's not a slip.

In post 528, Young and Beautiful wrote:Ooh hoo hoo!

- y -

Oh, would you look at that.
another
useless post!
In post 559, Young and Beautiful wrote:Cop Always. This needs to be sorted.

- b -

This was addressed, but I feel the need to say this- I hate it when people do this. The PR isn't going to listen to you. It's not gonna happen. It purely and simply is a ploy for town-cred, even if you didn't intend it to be.
In post 561, Young and Beautiful wrote:I don't have a read on Venmar, dearie ~

- b -

Answering a question...
In post 565, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 564, geists wrote:
In post 559, Young and Beautiful wrote:Cop Always. This needs to be sorted.

- b -


explain, plz.


If you think you can scumhunt Mastin with 100% certainty, I bid you go right ahead! I'll nominate you for Town MVP!

- b -

Okay. Let's wait a couple days and I'll have this sorted out, so then I'll get a nom.
In post 568, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 566, T S O wrote:Odds are he's Town, he has no reason to withhold reads as scum - it's still annoying as fuck.


If you point to any single random player, odds are that they'll be Town rather than Scum. Basic probability.

geists, how confident are you that AP is Town then? 100%?


Do you think you can read AP with 100% certainty then?

Answer yes and you might be a candidate for a scummie!~

- b -

Holy SHIT it's actually a good post!
In post 569, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 567, geists wrote:The timing of your request looks a little odd given how things are shaping up with Mastin and the Iece slot.


And my request is directly in response to Mastin's response to Iece. It was certainly the intention that I wished to convey.

Please explain how it is "a little odd".

- b -

Seriously, you are getting on a roll here!
In post 572, Young and Beautiful wrote:The fairly significant replace-in did not make an impression on me; I would say that it is irrelevant to my post.

Indeed, Mastin should be copped in any game, preferably earlier so she gets less time to pull strings as scum, and perpetual safety as town.

This is Day 1, and reasonably early in the game. I find nothing wrong with the timing of the post.

- b -

Hey, you
do
have a spine!
In post 578, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 558, Always wrote:
In post 551, AngryIcerink wrote:You've got like 2 posts to convince me you aren't multi-scum this game (I am correct in stating this is multiball?; for some reason I think it is but UI havent really read).
Fuck
no.


You've got it rat's-ass backwards. I owe you absolutely nothing.
NOTHING.
Of the sort.

This game.
This game.

It's
you
the burden is on.

Your entry was null-at-best.
BEST.

One post down.
One to go.

You try pinning your scummy-ass BoP on me, I'm speedlynching you.


This post in particular sparked my response.

That is all there is.

What do you wish to accomplish from this line of questioning?

- b -

This is covered here-
In post 582, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 579, geists wrote:
In post 578, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 558, Always wrote:
In post 551, AngryIcerink wrote:You've got like 2 posts to convince me you aren't multi-scum this game (I am correct in stating this is multiball?; for some reason I think it is but UI havent really read).
Fuck
no.


You've got it rat's-ass backwards. I owe you absolutely nothing.
NOTHING.
Of the sort.

This game.
This game.

It's
you
the burden is on.

Your entry was null-at-best.
BEST.

One post down.
One to go.

You try pinning your scummy-ass BoP on me, I'm speedlynching you.


This post in particular sparked my response.

That is all there is.

What do you wish to accomplish from this line of questioning?

- b -


I wish to develop a read of you.

What in particular about that post sparked the cop request?


Nothing in particular. The fact of Mastin being impossible to read with 100% certainty requires that she be copped very early.

At best, I can only do 99% ;)

- b -

Wha.. then it's just the whole post? Or did you just want to get town cred...

In post 584, Young and Beautiful wrote:I'm not fishing for a PR claim, nor am I trying to get them to respond to me. Whatever any hypothetical PR wishes to do with their night action is entirely their responsibility.

At the very most, I can give them incentive... with a smooch :*

I don't want to get involved in mafia discussion. Mastin, however, may gladly accommodate you. She can discuss mafia theory with you as a player; regardless if she is town or scum :)

I'm only interested in finding scum.

- b -

Well you sure aren't doing a good job at it.
In post 586, Young and Beautiful wrote:Okay then.

I kindly request for a change of this line of questioning.

Would you like to sort me with other topics of discussion/questions?

- b -

And now that roll you had going? Yeah, it disappeared. What's wrong with answering those questions?
In post 625, Young and Beautiful wrote:I like Venmar. He agrees with me.

I dislike Always. Snape is overrated.

- y -

A couple of reads. I like the Always read.
In post 626, Young and Beautiful wrote:Why, Mr. Cephrir, I believe I've found another pagetop! Hooray!

- y -

Another useless post.
In post 629, Young and Beautiful wrote:This is your first post in 82+102 posts. As a monstrous hydra...

How does that make you feel?


- y -

What are you trying to accomplish, exactly?
In post 632, Young and Beautiful wrote:That was my other head, but I actually agree with them on some accounts. It's ridiculous to say that we're scum because they suggested to a hypothetical Cop who to target at night. I don't get why people are screaming about it at all!

- y -

Because you don't
do it
as town. You do
as scum
to get town cred!
In post 634, Young and Beautiful wrote:
Who
's speaking here?

- y -

It's obvious they aren't gonna sign their posts.
In post 645, Young and Beautiful wrote:Egg is my favorite. I prefer soft-boiled over anything else, of course.

- y -

I thought he wasn't an egg?
In post 647, Young and Beautiful wrote:Hmmm. Perhaps an exclamation point would do much better to set the tone of our post above, no?

- y -

Another useless post.
In post 673, Young and Beautiful wrote:Ah! Somebody claimed already? And I missed it?

Our fishing trip is going horribly! :x

- y -

Wait, I thought you weren't fishing?
In post 710, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 703, Nero Cain wrote:'cause its a 28 player game so there's going to be a butt load of scum and there's no traction for lynching abomination but just LOOK at Shos and he's really doing nothing. Why do you have a town read on him?


I strongly agree with this. We can only lynch once a day.

Leave the scum-killing to the vigs. There's bound to be some; in 28p.

Or scum cross-killing is great too.


PSA: lol, didn't know that geists was a Nata/ffery hydra. Thought they were some random single player whom I've never heard of.

- b -

Yes, let's just lynch PL's the whole game because that's going to work out marvelously!
In post 741, Young and Beautiful wrote:Twenty-eight players and multiple hydrae of varying sizes make for quite a large game! :x

- y -

No shit Sherlock.
In post 798, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 797, T S O wrote:he has done fuck-all and he continually tells us he will. and then doesn't.



80% of the time this is a scumtell.

Y, why did you move my vote to T S O? He is at least amusing scum. Shos doesn't even bother to put up a performance!

VOTE: shos

- b -

No it's not. It means he doesn't care about the game or is lazy. Or both.
In post 810, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 800, Svenskt Stål wrote:
In post 798, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 797, T S O wrote:he has done fuck-all and he continually tells us he will. and then doesn't.



80% of the time this is a scumtell.

Y, why did you move my vote to T S O? He is at least amusing scum. Shos doesn't even bother to put up a performance!

VOTE: shos

- b -


Your post is awkward as hell. We


Hmmm. B already knows how to flirt like a maniac, though! Perhaps this is just an off day for her?

UNVOTE:

VOTE:
T S O


- y -

Sheesh, you guys are more waffley than dice and I were.
In post 823, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 811, T S O wrote:Will the two of you PLEASE get a QT so you can make up your mind instead of projecting your dissonance like your
assets
.


Now, THAT, is funny.

The double entendre.

- b -

I don't get it. What's so important.
In post 942, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 926, Birds of Prey wrote:Boys, the dick measuring contest is off in the corner.

Can we stick to scumhunting please? For instance, why do we have a bunch of lurksacks sitting on shos who have done nothing to forward that wagon when we have Young and Beautiful posting shit content?

- Venus Fly Trap -


Speak for yourself, dearie~ :*


In other news, I don't have any flavor knowledge whatsoever.

- b -

Well, they're speaking for me as well. And nobody cares if you have no flavor knowledge. If you did, you would've said something already.
In post 1039, Young and Beautiful wrote:And at last I see the light-

UNVOTE:

VOTE: shos

-and it's like the fog has lifted!

- y -

Wafflewafflewaffle but this is a terri-bad post because shos was actually starting to make town moves instead of no moves.
In post 1056, Young and Beautiful wrote:shos is using metadefense.

Considering that I have barely played with this user before, I'm going to ignore them.

- b -

Metadefense isn't a scumtell. If it was then mastin should be insta-lynched.
In post 1188, Young and Beautiful wrote::*

It's strange how deadline is more than two weeks away...

so long, so long~~
(this game is huge)
- b -

Another useless post.
In post 1190, Young and Beautiful wrote::*
(hugs and kisses)

- b -

I hate hugs. And kisses. And to be handed things.
In post 1258, Young and Beautiful wrote:Why should they when you're voting
me
?

- y -

Because you are scum(I'm still sad that geists changed the vote...)
In post 1260, Young and Beautiful wrote:Come on, babe,
talk
to
me
. I'll make it worth your while. ;)

- y -

If worth their while means talking about nothing that means anything and a ton of bad physical contact that express erotic emotions then yes, it will be.
In post 1265, Young and Beautiful wrote:I'm not acting like a prostitute, I'm acting like a
temptress
. Big difference, babe.

- y -

Pretty damn close.
In post 1267, Young and Beautiful wrote:Oh no!

T S O
, what do you suggest I post next, then, to escape the rope?

- y -

Another useless post that shouldn't even need to be answered.
In post 1269, Young and Beautiful wrote:Let's not wagon Young and Beautiful either; I'm leaning town on them too...

- y -

No, I like the wagon. You should hop on, especially because my parallelism is about to go full blast.
In post 1274, Young and Beautiful wrote:Well, then! Let's give it a try:

a) I think
T S O
is trying to distance his playstyle in this game from his playstyle in his recent scum games.

b) VOTE:
T S O


c) I think
T S O
is trying to distance his playstyle in this game from his playstyle in his recent scum games. VOTE:
T S O

Playstyles are going to change from game to game no matter what. You can look at my games. The only similarities you will find in most of them are that I don't do much for the first 20-25 pages and then that I absorb information and other shit and transfer it over to other games. Playstyle change != scumtell.
In post 1278, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1273, Always wrote:I don't need to convince anyone that I'm town. It's self-evident. What I'm doing now is basically just toying with you, laughing at you, smirking at you being either scum or utterly, entirely, 100% ignorant in your own arrogance. (Yes, I'm arrogant, no it's not unjustified when I'm up against shit like this.)


Ewww!

Icky, icky!

- y -

Not needed at all even though I like it.
In post 1280, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1275, T S O wrote:PEdit: well done, good girl. still bitter from AAA? you couldn't touch me as scum.


Ewww!

Icky, icky!

- y -

Now this is just not needed and I don't like it.
In post 1288, Young and Beautiful wrote:I'm getting a different vibe from how it sounds like she always has to reaffirm that she knows she's being arrogant. You can say it's genuine and unabashed but the overall feeling I'm getting is a very self-aware tone, so I'm not at all convinced that she can't fake it with how often she's acknowledging it and pointing it out!

- y -

Well no SHIT sherlock she's mastin.
In post 1294, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1292, geists wrote:Why are you coaching Y&B?


Because I don't know how to play mafia. :(

Will you help me out too? I can offer smooches in return!~ :*

- y -

NO fucking thank you another useless post.
In post 1299, Young and Beautiful wrote:Why are people voting xofelf, by the way?

I don't think MafiaScum's ready for that kind of leadership.

- y -

This makes no sense at all.
In post 1301, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1298, Always wrote:My scumread on Y&B and on xofelf are both not arrogance. They're stronger, but not absolute.


So, should I treat xofelf as confirmed town because you're supposedly scumreading her in the same manner as you are me?

- y -

I like the sassy part of this post.
In post 1304, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1302, T S O wrote:That's a derisive tone I use to people who can barely play.


Teach me, sir! Teach me well!

- y -

Okay, shut up now.
In post 1307, Young and Beautiful wrote:(I may quite possibly take offense to your choice to attach a negative connotation to the phrase "little girl", however!)

- y -
Understandable.
In post 1324, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1310, T S O wrote:I tried to help YnB and she voted me out of the fucking blue. I have no interest in talking to her anymore, and I'll openly say that's terrible townplay and terrible townplay is done by a terrible townplayer.


In post 1311, T S O wrote:I actually think she's scum, to be fair, but still.


Ewww!

Icky, icky!

- y -
Yay! A good post!
In post 1328, Young and Beautiful wrote:Oh! One last thing~

T S O
, I hope you find it within yourself to realize that at times you can be much, much worse than the people you call out for arrogance or bad play, simply due to the fact that regardless of alignment, your personal attacks often carry more than enough toxicity to completely ruin multiple individuals' motivations to participate at all.

- y -

That's two in a row! Let's see if we can get to three again!
In post 1331, Young and Beautiful wrote:You helped me find the confidence to vote my own scumread instead of just sheeping onto a wagon that looks decent.

See, I'm not sacrificing my actual scumread for the sake of appearing "acceptable" read-wise! Artistic integrity and all that shit.

Aren't you
proud
?

- y -

Aaaaand nope. She's being cocky and arrogant. And enters... my parallelism!
In post 1334, Young and Beautiful wrote:Oooh, it's gotten all quiet here, hasn't it?...

I suppose most people aren't comfortable with getting caught up in actual conflict. I don't blame them; usually I'm one of them.

- y -

~Post-Edit~
: When did I ever say that I
liked
you? As far as I can remember, you've been pinging, pinging,
pinging
for me!

For the record, you're slipping back into your AAA scumplay.

Big, big words about catching and confirming scum (oh, particularly the catching, so much of that
"caught scum"
), before they flip town and everyone ignores how you blindly and arrogantly tunneled your mislynch of choice because "it's okay, T S O was just really wrong, but he's got to be town, so he'll get 'em next time!"

It's getting worse...
In post 1335, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1332, T S O wrote:you literally did not show one evolution from "i like tso" to "tso #1 scum". not one.

I know you are scum, so I have no idea why you're trying to be offended, but at least learn decent scumplay. you don't have a hope of surviving through this game
because you've been caught
.

AND THERE WE GO. Brushing TSO off because the he's scum.
In post 1333, T S O wrote:that, by the way, is NOT FUCKING COACHING, IT IS ME
TELLING A SCUM PLAYER THEY ARE FUCKED


In post 34, T S O wrote:Hang this, thanks.

When she flips scum
I'm conftown, by the way.

In post 36, T S O wrote:But
there's caught scum in Cho
so sheep me.

In post 81, T S O wrote:Well, the first post is me stating openly I'm going to consider myself conftown
when Cho flips scum
, and the second is me explaining how Cho's reason for voting me is scummy. I'm not particularly trying to look Town in either of them, Jargonaut, so you might have to try a little harder.


It's all the same kind of grandiose mislynch targetting! The more confident you can fake being, the more likely you can push your scum bullshit through!~

- y -

And this is exactly what my parallelism goes for! I think I can upgrade this to a general tell now that it has worked on I believe four separate occasions without fail.
In post 1338, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 0, N wrote:T S O
All-Around Aggregator
, Jack of All Trades,
Aliens
, survived,
wins!


Cho,
Average Anybody
, Vanilla Townie,
Angels
, lynched day 1


Just a dash of context, and now we can go put this in the oven at 450°F for just an hour...

- y -

Lol not context. I think we can actually swap the roles right now.
In post 1339, Young and Beautiful wrote:I still find it amusing that after all this, you're still abysmally far off as to who I actually am!

- y -

Again, if this Elyse I will shit myself.
In post 1341, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1336, T S O wrote:please stop trying to draw parallels between here and AAA.


Shut up, scumfuck! You've been
caught
~

- y -

And now she spirals ever downward.
In post 1346, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1340, T S O wrote:THIS GAME IS NOT AAA

MY SCUMGAME WOULD NOT HAVE ME IN THIS POSITION

I ACTUALLY LOOK TOWN WHEN I'M SCUM

I PROBABLY SCUMHUNT BETTER AS SCUM


Your usage of all capital letters indicates that you feel pressured. Hmmm... is it because I'm on the entirely right track?

It
is
, isn't it!?

Die, scum! Die! Die! Die!

- y -

*sigh* bad post in general, not to mention, " "
In post 1349, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1342, T S O wrote:I don't care who you are; why the hell are you obsessed with AAA?


You seemed
mean
in that game.

Perhaps I was simply...
aroused
.

- y -

Ummm... awkward? He's being pretty damn mean this game too...
In post 1350, Young and Beautiful wrote:Is that an acceptable answer?

- y -

No. It's not.
In post 1353, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1347, T S O wrote:like you do not have the first clue of my scummeta - I have never, ever seen anyone who does. so for you to start quoting posts from AAA for no reason is just stupid.


Oh no, please don't try to replicate Mastinplay,
JESUS
no~

- y -

Heh. Funny. But TSO has a point... would reference more of his games please?
In post 1354, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1351, T S O wrote:yes, capitals are a sign of my utter frustration. you got that right. gj.


Shut up, scumfuck! You've been caught caught
caught
~~~

- y -

spiral, spiral, spiral...
In post 1357, Young and Beautiful wrote:
In post 1356, T S O wrote:how exactly do you think you've caught me?


Well, at the very least you're scum who's very
angry
about being "caught" for the wrong reasons!

- y -

spiral, spiral, spiral...
In post 1358, Young and Beautiful wrote:
So I have taken this decision with the confidence that action is necessary, and that we will not be acting alone. Our goal is focused, our cause is just, and our coalition is strong. Thank you very much.


- y -

Ummm... Is this supposed to be a quote? Because it isn't very fitting at all.
In post 1363, Young and Beautiful wrote:Why,
T S O
, I should think that I deserve more than just the
leftovers
from your sexy, scummy rage!

In fact, I distinctly remember ordering a full
entree
of it, my dear!

~Post-Edit~
: Ummm,
Birds of Prey
, I can
too
analyze other players in the game!

- y -

This post is horrible. Like, really, what the fuck is this... sleaziness?
In post 1364, Young and Beautiful wrote:Here, watch!:

Birds of Prey:
You're wrong and full of holier-than-thou shit. You may also possibly be scum.

There we go! I've analyzed the gamestate!

Three cheers for
me
~~~

- y -

FALSE! That also means that every cocky person here would possibly be scum! Which is pretty much everyone.
In post 1368, Young and Beautiful wrote:Wait,
T S O
!:

Let's just pretend for a moment that I'm not confirmation biasing my scumread on you, and that I'm not loving every sensual second of it.

With that in mind:

How much of your "scumread" on
Venmar
is derived from the fact that he has dared to go against the Holy One Himself with a well-placed vote on you?

- y -

~Post-Edit~
: Why, dear,
OMGUS
is only but a symptom, not a cause!

The
cause
of my dislike of the position you've taken is you being focused on a fruitless rally cry for content while simultaneously ignoring other contentless slots, and failing yourself to produce anything distinctly memorable.

The
symptom
of that is poor little me in the corner here, easily susceptible to cries of "OMGUS!" that pointlessly push aside any actual opinions that I have.

~Post-Edit-2~
: Oh, were you in that game, too?...

You
were
, weren't you!? Under that "Riptide" moniker!

I'm so glad to see that you're probably still town as before, even if your sour reads and nasty misinterpretation habits haven't changed a bit!

I hate this post with every fiber of my being. It's not the kind of post I normally hate. But saying TSO isn't putting forth any content is actually quite bullshit. He's creating content by forcing you to do shit. On the other hand, you've only done so for a total of like seven posts.
In post 1369, Young and Beautiful wrote:Oh dear, dear, dear. I seem to have misplaced a slash, and now there's an ugly little BBCode stain marring one of my beautiful posts...

- y -

Okay. Good for you.
In post 1370, Young and Beautiful wrote:Speaking of
beautiful
, where are you, B? I need you to rein me in before I do something I might actually regret in the morning!

- y -

You already have.
In post 1372, Young and Beautiful wrote:If you want a serious answer, since the situation seems to demand one for once, I'm focusing on what comes to me.

There are 27 other slots in this game. I'm not willing to actively analyze every single one.

"But Young and Beautiful, that's what mafia's all about!"

Maybe. It's pointless if nobody's going to listen. Most Day 1s are filled with a lot of noise that barely anyone goes back to. I'm spending my time making light of it, and while in theory I should probably try to come up with some opinions on more than just the select few players that are popping out to me, I'm probably not going to.

Personally, I believe that at this point in the game focusing on what sticks out to me is much more productive than trying to focus on everything at once, and as a result spreading myself too thin.

When I am inevitably mislynched and inevitably flip town (I don't think anyone's townreading me at this point, which is to be expected after my outbursts but a shame anyway), I think it'd be better if I died with lasting opinions on select players and subjects because that's what I focused on trying to analyze, rather than straining myself to find a read on other players that'll only end in ideas even I don't believe anymore,

In short, I'm not going to play the whole "full votecount analysis and full playerlist reads" game because nobody really cares or is going to care in the end anyway. It's like the idea of inception, and I'm going to focus on the reads I think are important, and drive deep to try and make them stick even after I flip.

- y -

Okay. Good post. Now where the fuck did you two go?


No breaking the thread. I'm assuming this is what you were going for.

Awwwww man. I was caught.
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Post Post #1688 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:27 am

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In post 1679, Majiffy wrote:Most of my readinf and posting has been on the phone the last week and a half so any kind of big casework is impossible. On top of that, this game moves too fast with way too little actually worth reading. If people would dtop having 10 page dickswinging egofights that have nothing to do with alignment, maybe id bother reading more.

Why dont you post a tldr of what you want me to answer?

Well...our last exchange basically had you answer with 'I haven't been reading Nero' and I said 'when do you plan to read him so we can talk about why I think he's scum?' which...seems to be a burden on you rather than me.

Here's my case again though, if maybe you want to read enough to talk about Nero now;
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p6004788

It's pretty short and has all the relevant points linked in it.

For an absolutely minimalist version of the case, basically this post hits all the high points in one snappy comeback;

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p6006703
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Its not for today to sort. Stop sidetracking.
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Post Post #1690 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:47 am

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Post Post #1691 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:49 am

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Our hydra has been reduced to a shell of a thing. Let this be a lesson to all those who think an 8 player hydra is a good idea.

VOTE: Young and Beautiful

Out of the major wagons they seem scummiest. I believe shos's's claim and xof seems pretty town. YaB seems to just like cluttering the thread and I'm not even sure where the TSO read came from besides lol-meta.
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Post Post #1692 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:49 am

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Post Post #1693 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:49 am

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Can I just float to Day 2? Please? I have like no content other than, I'm ok with Y&B Lynch :P

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Post Post #1694 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:50 am

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Oh I like HS' post a lot. I had forgotten that YB spine dematerialized and because die scum die over and over.

I want them and shos. Pretend my vote is on both

VOTE: YB

PEDIT:
Ninjad by two votes wow

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Post Post #1695 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:50 am

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Mist do you really have nothing else to say?
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Post Post #1696 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:52 am

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holy shit
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Post Post #1697 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:52 am

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I think it was me.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #1698 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:53 am

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I should unvote and revote more often.
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Post Post #1699 (ISO) » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:56 am

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holy fucking shit, Hs is town. there's no way scum would go through all the trouble to make such post.
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