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SleepyKrew · Post Post #138 (isolation #0) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:04 am

Hi
UNVOTE:
Gimme a few hours to grab my flippyfloppies

SleepyKrew · Post Post #144 (isolation #1) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:40 pm

hey
first off GOOD GOD 9 games
be careful not to actually talk about any of the ongoing games
or say anything that might look like it's referencing an ongoing game
okay back to reading

SleepyKrew · Post Post #152 (isolation #2) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:16 pm

VOTE: Kaz

SleepyKrew · Post Post #155 (isolation #3) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:23 pm

Actually I want to hear more from Maestro too. But cool

SleepyKrew · Post Post #158 (isolation #4) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:41 pm

Brian Skies:

In post 12, Brian Skies wrote:
I'm the miller.
I'm going to die anyways, look for someone else.

^ Serious claim.

And Pitoli wished me good luck. It's okay guys, you don't have to be jealous.

This needs to be dead before LYLO.

Do you have any reads besides a town lean on Garmr?

Kazekirimaru:

In post 146, Kazekirimaru wrote:I'll admit others' opinions helped solidify my own. I do tend to take the crowd's opinion into consideration in situations I'm not familiar with. I've never played with a miller in game before.

Then why were you adamant that they can't be null if you don't have experience with them?

Jump to Maestro seems very opportunistic. Reaction to my vote solidifies my vote.

Smudger:

In post 95, Smudger wrote:Spyrex, going to need some time to get use to your style, not saying it is bad, but different to what an old fart like me is use to...

What did this mean?

Garmr:

In post 112, Garmr wrote:Aeronaught seems like a easy target for him to latch onto as well I have him as a null read.

Even though ns was the first to vote him?
Why have you dropped this reason?

CrashTextDummy:

In post 37, CrashTextDummie wrote:Lynch all D1 miller claims.

vote: Brian Skies

I agree that he needs to be dead before LYLO, but don't you think a D1 policy lynch right out the gate is a not-so-good idea?

In post 110, CrashTextDummie wrote:Spyrex, I am disappointed. Was really hoping you'd be town this game.

Why is SpyreX scum?

fferyllt:

In post 123, fferyllt wrote:The game was making a fast transition out of RVS mode (thank fuck for that)

How come you didn't try to get us out of RVS?

In post 126, fferyllt wrote:
Vote: Maestro

why

ChannelDelibird: Reads?

Maestro: Anything?

notscience:

In post 49, notscience wrote:UNVOTE:

^

This unvote was to prevent a quickhammer. Meaning you wanted the Day to not end prematurely. Why? Walk me through your logic.
Not liking the response to Garmr.

YYR: Thoughts on others besides Kaze?

SpyreX:

In post 116, SpyreX wrote:Ultimately, the page 1 dance is going to come down to the great game of which is more likely:

- A wagon formed on scum off the bat and the scum went panic mode and claimed miller as the get out of jail free pass.
- A wagon formed on a miller, claimed miller, and the jumps on tried to push that through.

What about a wagon formed on scum that had planned on claiming miller off the bat regardless of pressure?

I don't like how he says we need to squeeze more out of the Day, but doesn't actually contribute anything besides millerstuff and Aeroblood.

PEDIT: ohaithar Plum

SleepyKrew · Post Post #161 (isolation #5) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:58 pm

In post 159, Smudger wrote:
In post 158, SleepyKrew wrote:Smudger:
In post 95, Smudger wrote:
Spyrex, going to need some time to get use to your style, not saying it is bad, but different to what an old fart like me is use to...

What did this mean?
basically what it says, I am old and the way Spyrex is communicating in a way that was hard for me to actually get a grip of what he was saying....in fact a few of you are doing the same.

Can you describe the style of communication?

In post 160, Kazekirimaru wrote:But do tell me the scum motivation in me moving off the largest wagon to vote a lurker, kthx.

You're jumpy, Aero momentum was slowing down, and you saw two recent votes for Maestro. What's the

town

motivation of a third pressure vote in quick succession?

@Plum, what's your current read on ns?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #163 (isolation #6) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:12 pm

Why did you change votes? Why to Maestro?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #166 (isolation #7) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:32 pm

Do you still think my slot is scum?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #167 (isolation #8) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:35 pm

Also, do you think a second vote increases the chance that he's going to respond?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #170 (isolation #9) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:11 pm

So basically my slot is still your top scumread but you chose to sheep a pressure vote instead? Do you understand that a second pressure vote does literally nothing?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #171 (isolation #10) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:21 pm

Actually you probably don't.
Let's assume Maestro is town and has just been busy. He'll contribute when he can regardless of pressure.
Let's assume Maestro is scum and has just been busy. He'll contribute when he can. He might be a little bit more wary of pressure, but a second vote that's just there to make him post isn't going to scare him more than the first vote.
Let's assume Maestro is town and useless. Pressure does nothing.
Let's assume Maestro is scum and plans on continuing lurking. That makes pressuring him useless.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #174 (isolation #11) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:29 pm

So what, just by replacing out, Aero completely erased your scumread?

I think the first vote was unnecessary too but you're here at the moment and ffery isn't so I'm just talking to you. I think you should be voting who you think is scum. Which is apparently no one.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #177 (isolation #12) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:37 pm

And you think voting him will make him retroactively declare V/LA? I'm still seeing no benefit in voting him. In both scenarios you still disagree with, he'd post regardless of pressure. So that makes pressure votes on him useless.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #179 (isolation #13) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:45 pm

Why were you voting Aero?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #182 (isolation #14) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:56 pm

So you were voting Aero for scummy behavior. Am I wrong that he was your top scumread? Yet when he replaced out, you dropped the scumread (and now have no real reads) and are doing a (useless) pressure vote.

Tell me if any of that is wrong please

SleepyKrew · Post Post #185 (isolation #15) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:19 pm

What more are you trying to squeeze out? You're just repeating the same stuff over and over. I can't be patient; I'm scheduled to die.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #187 (isolation #16) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:39 pm

Thoughts on the Maestro and Kazs wagons?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #189 (isolation #17) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:54 pm

Why aren't you buying it? Do I need to fire the advertising department?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #192 (isolation #18) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:41 pm

Uh sorry what question?

I need to figure out if Smudger is failtown or failscum
I'll sleep on it

SleepyKrew · Post Post #196 (isolation #19) » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:21 am

In post 193, fferyllt wrote:What makes you think I didn't?

Because you didn't. You didn't vote or do anything to attempt to progress the gamestate.

I think it's a pressure vote because he has no content and thus I have no read on him. Do you think he's scum?

In post 195, Maestro wrote:SK's got me figured out, gaiz

okay are you actually going to do anything or am I wasting my energy

SleepyKrew · Post Post #198 (isolation #20) » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:26 am

Good boy.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #201 (isolation #21) » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:55 am

RVS ended as soon as Brian claimed Miller. You had two posts that did nothing before that.

Eh I want to give him a chance to contribute (probably a few more rl days) before I decide he's intentionally being useless. But thanks for explaining. I like your vote a lot more than the other two on him.

PEDIT: yay someone else sees it too

SleepyKrew · Post Post #202 (isolation #22) » Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:01 am

@mod

Can we see sample Miller, Mafia Goon and Serial Killer Role PMs?
No clue if that's actually allowed

SleepyKrew · Post Post #207 (isolation #23) » Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:32 pm

In post 206, Kazekirimaru wrote:Pressure on a lurker. I thought that much was obvious.

HOW DOES A

THIRD

VOTE HELP
read what I said to Smudger
Then think
Then get back to me

SleepyKrew · Post Post #209 (isolation #24) » Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:34 pm

In post 158, SleepyKrew wrote:Then why were you adamant that they can't be null if you don't have experience with them?

Don't ignore this

PEDIT: but it does

nothing

Are you content doing

nothing

?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #216 (isolation #25) » Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:05 pm

In post 210, Kazekirimaru wrote:That it does nothing is your opinion.

It probably is a lot less effective as a pressure tool now that you're DISCUSSING IT.

In post 207, SleepyKrew wrote:read what I said to Smudger
Then think

SleepyKrew · Post Post #219 (isolation #26) » Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:10 pm

In post 211, CrashTextDummie wrote:I'm not pushing a policy lynch. I think claiming miller on D1 is scummy and I think Brian is scum.

Lynch all miller claims is a policy lynch.

Other than that, really liking CTD right now.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #220 (isolation #27) » Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:11 pm

In post 218, Kazekirimaru wrote:It means nothing now that we've discussed the voting at-length anyway.

IT DIDN'T MEAN ANYTHING ANYWAY
okay you admit that your vote is useless now
Do something
Anything

SleepyKrew · Post Post #221 (isolation #28) » Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:13 pm

In post 201, SleepyKrew wrote:RVS ended as soon as Brian claimed Miller. You had two posts that did nothing before that.

Eh I want to give him a chance to contribute (probably a few more rl days) before I decide he's intentionally being useless. But thanks for explaining. I like your vote a lot more than the other two on him.

PEDIT: yay someone else sees it too

ffery plz

SleepyKrew · Post Post #225 (isolation #29) » Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:20 pm

In post 223, fferyllt wrote:I mean what is this "chance to contribute" shit?

Because voting a lurker is lazy and voting a lurker at the beginning of the game is super lazy

SleepyKrew · Post Post #226 (isolation #30) » Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:21 pm

In post 221, SleepyKrew wrote:RVS ended as soon as Brian claimed Miller. You had two posts that did nothing before that.

Don't forget this part

Oh man very happy with my Kaz vote now

SleepyKrew · Post Post #228 (isolation #31) » Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:23 pm

"I'm not contributing anything and don't want you to either"

SleepyKrew · Post Post #232 (isolation #32) » Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:27 pm

No clue how he usually plays.

Okay quick look at his ISO (lol) and yeah you're right. Didn't think about it that way. Carry on.
Smudger and Kaz's votes are still shit though.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #233 (isolation #33) » Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:28 pm

In post 231, Kazekirimaru wrote:Though how hard you're trying to make me unvote him is interesting.

Hm.

I was trying to get you to contribute.
Was

SleepyKrew · Post Post #236 (isolation #34) » Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:32 pm

In post 234, Kazekirimaru wrote:By doing anything but keeping my vote on Maestro.

It's possible to provide content without moving your shit vote

SleepyKrew · Post Post #238 (isolation #35) » Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:35 pm

In post 226, SleepyKrew wrote:RVS ended as soon as Brian claimed Miller. You had two posts that did nothing before that.

fferyyyyyy

@CTD
What are your thoughts on Kaz? I'm unsure about Smudger but pretty confident with my Kaz vote.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #242 (isolation #36) » Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:46 pm

omg why did you unvote after going all "lol no not unvoting"

@CTD
Memory + a quick skim of his ISO show nothing notable besides his argument with me regarding Maestro pressure, a suspicion/vote on Aero (where did that go?), and his weird reaction to the claim.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #249 (isolation #37) » Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:55 pm

Kaze, do you not realize that I replaced Aero?
"looking elsewhere" oh boy I can't wait

SleepyKrew · Post Post #255 (isolation #38) » Sun Sep 29, 2013 2:04 pm

Why would Aero replacing out nullify his actions?
How do I look town now but didn't before you realized I replaced Aero?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #271 (isolation #39) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:47 am

In post 264, Smudger wrote:and you think that is the best way to get people to trust you in the game?

I'm not trying to get people to trust me; I'm trying to find scum. What are you doing?

In post 264, Smudger wrote:why are you defending Maestro so hard? what possible gratification do you get from attacking a pressure vote? and please do correct me if I am wrong, but applying a vote and not explaining it is suspect, applying a vote a giving reasons is acceptable. of course the explanation must make sense, my explanation makes sense to me, it is my opinion and that differs from yours.

Because by leaving your "pressure" vote, you get away with not contributing anything. I've been over this with you and Kaze and I probably said the same stuff to ffery. I agree that Maestro needs to show up and do shit. But being content with a "pressure" vote is an excuse to not do anything. And I don't understand how in the world your explanation still makes sense to you. I explained the four different scenarios. Two of them, you agreed with me that a pressure vote is useless. The other two, you said that you disagreed that a pressure vote was useless, even though in those two scenarios, Maestro would start being active regardless of pressure!

In post 264, Smudger wrote:as for this, good to see you being put in your place, what exactly were you thinking in asking for this?

Brian said pitoli wished him good luck. I doubted pit would actually supply them, and even if she did, it'd be pretty unlikely that it'd actually be useful, but no harm in trying.

In post 264, Smudger wrote:but then you could have done that, any reason why you did not?

Are you asking why I didn't vote Aero?

In post 264, Smudger wrote:tunnelling

I don't think you know what this means

Answers to the following in bold

In post 264, Smudger wrote:What benefit do you derive from it for all of us?
I'm trying to force you (meaning you and Kaze) to contribute while I'm also scumhunting.

What possible thing can it say to you or anyone else?
I (and others) am trying to determine the reasoning and intent behind your votes. Yours is the only one I'm still contemplating.

Is it that one or more of those applying those votes are scum? If so which of the 3 who voted are scum?
I think Kaze is, which would be pretty obvious if you were paying attention.

what did you learn from your investigation?
ffery is cool.

is the fact that you may have uncovered a major scum tactic a possibility?
Sure?

Is the fact that one, two or all 3 of the 3 voting may have been exposed as scum because their vote is scummy?
I don't think ffery's vote is scummy. It's certainly possible that all 3 of you are scum, but HIGHLY UNLIKELY. You and Kaze both being scum is a possibility I'm still entertaining.

In post 264, Smudger wrote:thing that is crap is that when you are asked a simple question you ignore it. In particular when the person asking that question has answered every single question you have asked of him or her.

I think I just missed it at first. But yeah I don't think it's a very good question anyway. Interesting how you assume I intentionally ignored it.

In post 268, ChannelDelibird wrote:Hi guys, apologies for my inactivity this weekend. It was sitewide.

I'll be on a bit later today but it'll be in between birthday cake so, if I get distracted, that'll be why. This is one of a few threads that need my attention.

Happy cake! Face Day cake day

In post 270, Kazekirimaru wrote:Is there a reason you keep trying to discredit me now that my vote's on you?

Why did you say "keep"?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #272 (isolation #40) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:49 am

That space in CDB's quote was supposed to be between that quote and my stuff addressing Smudger <.<

SleepyKrew · Post Post #273 (isolation #41) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:51 am

@Kaze
Is trying to discredit the person voting you scummy? Is it different from defending yourself? How?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #275 (isolation #42) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:04 am

BWAHAHAHAHAHA
you just called yourself scummy
guess you forgot when you tried to discredit me

SleepyKrew · Post Post #279 (isolation #43) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:06 am

SleepyKrew · Post Post #281 (isolation #44) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:12 am

I don't see why 276 should matter. You already said that defending and discrediting are different.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #283 (isolation #45) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:19 am

Moar Kaze votes

SleepyKrew · Post Post #289 (isolation #46) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:21 am

Voting a lurker is VERY AGGRESSIVE SCUMHUNTING indeed

SleepyKrew · Post Post #292 (isolation #47) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:29 am

I've also talked about your reaction to the Miller claim, your jump on and off Aero, your word choice regarding Garmr, and your opinion on discrediting vs defending (there might be other stuff but I think this list off the top of my head is enough to prove my point).
You're the second person to not use the word tunnel correctly when talking to me. And of course the first was Smudger

SleepyKrew · Post Post #294 (isolation #48) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:51 am

In post 244, fferyllt wrote:If you meta me you'll find that I make a very similar first post in every game I play. Where things go from there is entirely dependent on the playerlist and the game itself. I poke around and ask questions for the first few pages of a game. I don't put a vote down quickly.

If anyone besides me cares, this checks out. Thanks for having such an organized wiki page.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #295 (isolation #49) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:52 am

In post 293, Kazekirimaru wrote:Whatever, bro. You're wrong and you need to stop conf biasing.

omg

SleepyKrew · Post Post #297 (isolation #50) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:14 am

Oh no she's by no way confirmed. She went about RVS the same way in this game as all the games I checked, which included a couple scum games.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #298 (isolation #51) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:16 am

Why weren't you scumreading me before I made that post?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #304 (isolation #52) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:30 pm

DON'T TALK ABOUT YOUR OTHER ONGOING GAMES

SleepyKrew · Post Post #313 (isolation #53) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:50 pm

In post 312, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 309, Plum wrote:Do people really even consider OMGUS a scumtell anymore (/again)?
Read some recent games and come to your own conclusions?

Why would you not just answer

Plum, OMGUS is certainly bad, but sometimes townies are bad. All about deciphering intent.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #318 (isolation #54) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:54 pm

In post 315, Kazekirimaru wrote:What the fuck good is my answer when I'm the one calling it a scum tell? A. My answer is obvious and B. My answer is biased.

Then why even answer

SleepyKrew · Post Post #321 (isolation #55) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:59 pm

In post 320, Kazekirimaru wrote:#1 scumread

Garmr please address

SleepyKrew · Post Post #323 (isolation #56) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:01 pm

Oh I wonder if Garmr is gonna say what I think he's gonna say

SleepyKrew · Post Post #325 (isolation #57) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:06 pm

In post 323, SleepyKrew wrote:Oh I wonder if Garmr is gonna say what I think he's gonna say

Saving this as a draft in case I forget:
Garmr is scumreading you (Kaze)

because

of his ns read. He says you're chainsaw defending ns.

Actually laughed out loud when I saw Garmr's post ^_^

SleepyKrew · Post Post #327 (isolation #58) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:09 pm

No I was laughing because you said exactly what I expected you to. Exactly. See my above post.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #329 (isolation #59) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:17 pm

SleepyKrew · Post Post #333 (isolation #60) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:55 pm

You don't even care about Garmr countering
smh

SleepyKrew · Post Post #336 (isolation #61) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:11 pm

I thought Aero was scum no matter what? What changed that?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #339 (isolation #62) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:16 pm

Well now I

really

wanna know.
Which vote was bad?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #341 (isolation #63) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:34 pm

I'm so confused
Which two paragraphs
Which couple things
Why in the world do people like The Catcher in the Rye

SleepyKrew · Post Post #343 (isolation #64) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:59 pm

Yer killin me Petey

SleepyKrew · Post Post #344 (isolation #65) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:15 pm

It's bothering me because you seemed 1000% in how did you describe it? Washing your face in my blood?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #345 (isolation #66) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:30 pm

In post 300, fferyllt wrote:
In post 288, Kazekirimaru wrote:Uhh...? I don't like to self-meta analyze. That's kinda silly.

I guess any of them really cause I'm generally an aggressive scumhunter.
It was a trick question, I guess. I had already meta'd you when I asked that. Your play so far here doesn't really fit with what I saw in your other games. Your stances looked pretty logical and thoughtful in the games I read this morning.

In post 305, fferyllt wrote:
In post 301, Kazekirimaru wrote:Kay. So, you're insinuating that I'm acting illogical this game.

Alright.
Your stances don't appear make as much sense, no.

In post 302, Kazekirimaru wrote:Or perhaps you're saying I'm not playing thoughtful enough?

Is this a caution or an accusation?
It was mostly curiosity, because I wondered which game you would maybe see as most like your play in this one.

This doesn't look as much like your town games as I was kinda expecting.

Did you also look at some of his scum games?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #356 (isolation #67) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:07 am

Gonna come back and read and respond later but for now just wanna say OI MAESTRO I SEE YOU POSTING YOU FUCKER
I STOOD UP FOR YOU AFTER YOUR V/LA AND THIS IS HOW YOU THANK ME

SleepyKrew · Post Post #360 (isolation #68) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:58 am

In post 346, SpyreX wrote:But i'm trying to learn to take a step back more. I've was off my game before my hiatus and I actually want to get back to the roots and re-evaluate. The big thing was calling the Maestro push lazy - because it is. He needs to step up or die and that's a greeeeeat copout D1 and you didn't even blink at it. That's genuine.

You don't think I'd call people out for this as scum?

In post 346, SpyreX wrote:I can always wear your face as a hat later.

I'm not sure if I want to draw this or sig it.

In post 347, Brian Skies wrote:@SK: I can't remember who said it, but didn't someone mention that my miller claim helped move us out of RVS (not my intention, but I'm quite pleased it worked out that way)? Fferyl was the first person to actively engage my read, so does that qualify as moving discussion?

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, sorry. Rephrase please?

In post 347, Brian Skies wrote:SK - Aeronaut is a player I can see jumping on a large wagon for absolutely zero reason. SK has been pretty town since replacing in.

Why and why

In post 347, Brian Skies wrote:Kaze - I'm pretty sure he just likes to jump on wagons, so I don't find it indicative for him.

Have you done any research to back that up?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #361 (isolation #69) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:59 am

In post 359, notscience wrote:VOTE: Maestro

Why?
What are your reads?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #362 (isolation #70) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:01 am

In post 354, YYR wrote:Didn't get much out of the catchup. I'm still not getting where everyone is getting a town read on Brian. The SK/Smudger back and forth made me a bit more comfortable on SK, but I kind of just skimmed through Smudger's post. Still like my vote where it is.

What do you think about the Maestro wagon?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #364 (isolation #71) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:04 am

Still think Smudger's vote is shit. Kaze's vote (which is gone now for bad reasons) was shit. I do not think your vote is/was shit because your reasoning is actually good. I'm not sure about ns's vote yet.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #366 (isolation #72) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:08 am

Yes (that's why I'm voting him and have called him scum multiple times)

SleepyKrew · Post Post #369 (isolation #73) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:10 am

What do you mean by "safe"?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #370 (isolation #74) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:10 am

In post 367, Garmr wrote:Sleepy I think I know what brian skies is talking about in this post
In post 360, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 347, Brian Skies wrote:SK - Aeronaut is a player I can see jumping on a large wagon for absolutely zero reason. SK has been pretty town since replacing in.
Why and why
I Think I know why Brian is thinking this way But it's on going game stuff so I wouldn't say it.

THEN SHUT UP

SleepyKrew · Post Post #375 (isolation #75) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:15 am

I don't think saying his play seems too x or y for scum means anything unless he has an established scum meta.

also, seriously
don't do it guys
they're cracking down

PEDIT: No ffery I didn't. I'm pretty bad at meta so I just took your word on it.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #378 (isolation #76) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:39 am

Do you feel that way about all of the votes?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #382 (isolation #77) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:19 pm

In post 379, Brian Skies wrote:They're just opinions. Kaze opened RVS with a wagon vote, so I just assumed he likes wagons, especially since his play this game has supported it. I'm open to being wrong about it, but he seems town for me thus far.

As for Aero, it's the same thing. I don't think he understood the consequences of his actions and you're now paying for your predecessor's poor play.

He's the only vote on Garmr.
Something is bugging me but I'm not sure how to word it wrt your Kaze read. I'll try to elaborate when I figure out what it is
Also you missed two of the questions I asked (I needed one thing rephrased and I asked why you're townreading me).
How am I paying?

In post 380, YYR wrote:
In post 378, SleepyKrew wrote:Do you feel that way about all of the votes?
Yes. None of them look like they're going to commit to that wagon for the long term simply because Maestro hasn't done anything. Someone who's on the wagon is free to correct me.

Do you know ffery's reason? If not, that tells me that you didn't read very carefully. If you do, then tell me if you do because stuff

In post 381, pitoli wrote:
Thanks SK for being my personal mouthpiece about the ongoing games rule. Not in my game. Not in any game.

Yeah that guy is pretty cool

SleepyKrew · Post Post #383 (isolation #78) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:25 pm

Brian, why are you townreading Kaze?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #391 (isolation #79) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:47 pm

Too tired to address things rn
Just gonna say that 1) CDB is pulling a Maestro and 2) that is a fantastic username^
third line

SleepyKrew · Post Post #392 (isolation #80) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:48 pm

SleepyKrew · Post Post #393 (isolation #81) » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:47 am

I'm excited for these prods
We might get EMPIRE

SleepyKrew · Post Post #404 (isolation #82) » Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:55 pm

omg hi Slaxx

I have nothing else to contribute at this juncture because my brain hurts too much

SleepyKrew · Post Post #409 (isolation #83) » Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:12 pm

omg hi Empire

SleepyKrew · Post Post #425 (isolation #84) » Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:20 pm

Just dropping in to say that metaing me probably won't be very fruitful as I'm actively trying to change my town meta (which will also force me to change my scum meta) and I have no completed games since I've made this change

Hopefully tomorrow I'll actually be able to think and contribute

SleepyKrew · Post Post #428 (isolation #85) » Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:33 pm

Okay yes I should probably just commit suicide

SleepyKrew · Post Post #429 (isolation #86) » Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:33 pm

V/LA dead

SleepyKrew · Post Post #432 (isolation #87) » Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:39 pm

Not if I go headfirst

SleepyKrew · Post Post #436 (isolation #88) » Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:43 pm

See this is why I don't want to lynch SpyreX even if he's scum

SleepyKrew · Post Post #438 (isolation #89) » Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:57 pm

It'd be nice to get past D1 with you

I'll get back to you on game content tomorrow.

Also I'm fairly sure I asked you a question that you haven't answered yet. I can find it for you if you can't

SleepyKrew · Post Post #439 (isolation #90) » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:03 pm

Post 360

SleepyKrew · Post Post #441 (isolation #91) » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:08 pm

Aero's Brian vote was p bad.
But again, you think I wouldn't be "making waves" as scum?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #442 (isolation #92) » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:09 pm

Attacking people for going the safe easy route voting a lurker is actually pretty safe and easy too

SleepyKrew · Post Post #444 (isolation #93) » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:23 pm

In post 441, SleepyKrew wrote:But again, you think I wouldn't be "making waves" as scum?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #446 (isolation #94) » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:42 pm

I've had these kinds of conversations as scum before. People eat it up.

Anyway I think I'm off to bed

SleepyKrew · Post Post #453 (isolation #95) » Thu Oct 03, 2013 5:24 am

Do you have any scumreads besides the claimed Miller that is going to die anyway?
Thoughts on the attempted Maestro wagons?
Thoughts on the leading wagon (SpyreX)?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #454 (isolation #96) » Thu Oct 03, 2013 5:25 am

Or maybe it's still the Kaze wagon.
I'll take thoughts on that too.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #459 (isolation #97) » Thu Oct 03, 2013 5:42 am

In post 454, SleepyKrew wrote:Or maybe it's still the Kaze wagon.
I'll take thoughts on that too.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #461 (isolation #98) » Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:15 am

But he did change it
For no good reason

SleepyKrew · Post Post #464 (isolation #99) » Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:35 am

Empire = Maestro

SleepyKrew · Post Post #466 (isolation #100) » Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:39 am

In post 405, Maestro wrote:Yeah sorry I'll say pitoli can replace me - I don't have time for this right now on top of tons of other stuff going on

SleepyKrew · Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:27 am

Which part is a lie?

SleepyKrew · Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:54 am

Dammit I was gonna maybe start a Brian wagon after my reread/catchup

SleepyKrew · Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:56 am

It's when a group of people are townreading each other and then they lynch scum and have fun and sometimes scum manages to get into the bloc

SleepyKrew · Post Post #505 (isolation #104) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:37 am

pro dodge

SleepyKrew · Post Post #527 (isolation #105) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:58 pm

I need to reevaluate Kaze (and everything else) myself.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #540 (isolation #106) » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:18 am

Oh wow I've been lazymode since Wednesday.
Will correct that today.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #550 (isolation #107) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:33 am

In post 548, fferyllt wrote:SleepyKrew, are you out of lazymode?

BEGINNING REREAD/CATCHUP NOW

SleepyKrew · Post Post #551 (isolation #108) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:14 am

In post 388, Kazekirimaru wrote:Hey hey, I see Maestro is a thing again.

Why isn't anyone else's throats being jumped down for that? I don't get it.

ns is the only new person, and I began questioning him, so kindly stfu

In post 396, fferyllt wrote:It's a good reason, but nobody seems all that swayed by it except NotSci. You guys just just say it's good, so it's ok for me to be out here on this lonely wagon.

How do you know that it swayed ns? Why do you think ns was voting Maestro for your reason and not LOL LYNCH THE LURKER?

In post 408, fferyllt wrote:
Unvote

Hi Empire.

Why did you unvote?

In post 410, LolWagons wrote:#158> Ah, this is where I got my SK townread. Okay. I especially like the Spyrex-relevant items. This is SK town.

Is this a meta read?

In post 458, fferyllt wrote:
UNVOTE

Do you have a history of avoiding lynching strong players D1?

In post 471, notscience wrote:.

Hey you
Why did you vote Maestro

SleepyKrew · Post Post #552 (isolation #109) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:16 am

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Brian Skies

I need to do some ISOs later but right now, I think we've generated lots of good discussion and it's time to get this utility lynchtrain choo chooing.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #555 (isolation #110) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:31 am

No need to dig up games; I doubt you'd lie about that and I'm lazy.
I thought Maestro was your top scumread at the time?

SleepyKrew · Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:29 pm

Yeah, I was against a policy lynch right out the gate. This is no longer the beginning of D1. People have reads and content and stuff. But Brian still needs to be dead and the earlier, the better.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #566 (isolation #112) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:21 pm

In post 564, notscience wrote:SK, it was kinda a pressure vote and was basically a proddodge.

omg do I need to explain why a pressure vote is useless again

In post 565, LolWagons wrote:SK would you be voting him if he had not claimed miller?

idk
I haven't bothered developing a read on him. Probably not.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #567 (isolation #113) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:45 pm

In post 563, Brian Skies wrote:@SK: That hurts my feelings a bit. But if town can find the scumteam off my death, then so be it. You already have my claim, so town can just lynch away.

It'd be great if you started scumhunting HARD and pushing questions etc
Maybe make this game a little higher priority yknow?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #569 (isolation #114) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:10 pm

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON A BRIAN LYNCH

SleepyKrew · Post Post #571 (isolation #115) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:21 pm

Why bother developing a read on someone I want lynched no matter what?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #573 (isolation #116) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:23 pm

I don't think I've ever been in this situation before.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #577 (isolation #117) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:29 pm

Some people are scumreading him and some people agree with the utility lynch

SleepyKrew · Post Post #581 (isolation #118) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:46 pm

Hey Emp do you wanna help me make sure the miller claim is dead and isn't just talked about

SleepyKrew · Post Post #590 (isolation #119) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:56 am

Then make us go somewhere else. Your last post was entirely reactive. Be proactive if you want something to change. BE THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE IN THE WORLD

SleepyKrew · Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:08 pm

In post 593, CrashTextDummie wrote:SleepyKrew, is there a difference between a utility lynch and a policy lynch?

In some cases, yes. In this case, no.

SleepyKrew · Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:15 pm

Hey ns how come you didn't express any suspicion of SpyreX until the wagon started?
Or did you and I just missed it/forgot?

SleepyKrew · Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:22 pm

Yes but why didn't you say anything in the thread about this until the wagon started?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #604 (isolation #123) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:15 pm

Si without the accent means "if"

THE MORE YOU KNOW

SleepyKrew · Post Post #614 (isolation #124) » Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:10 am

ns what does your neighborhood post say?

I am a guy. That is why it says Gender: Male on all my posts. Can't a guy have a Princess Leia avatar?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #627 (isolation #125) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:33 am

In post 626, notscience wrote:Everyone died ;-;

So push discussion

Plum, thoughts on Brian lynch?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #636 (isolation #126) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:42 pm

In post 634, Peabody wrote:I've still gotta finish reading before posting. The miller claim is weird.

Why did you make this post?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #638 (isolation #127) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:46 pm

You already had a post less than 7 hours prior. Why did you feel the need to make another post, and why did you include the miller comment?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #640 (isolation #128) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:58 pm

Except you didn't offer any real thoughts. Why would you feel like you need to say something game related in a prod drudge before you're caught up? Do you have a history of this behavior?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #641 (isolation #129) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:59 pm

drudge = dodge

SleepyKrew · Post Post #643 (isolation #130) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:05 pm

When have I asked something like that this game besides the one about your RVS habits?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #647 (isolation #131) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:09 pm

In post 642, fferyllt wrote:
In post 640, SleepyKrew wrote:Except you didn't offer any real thoughts. Why would you feel like you need to say something game related in a prod drudge before you're caught up?
Do you have a history of this behavior
?
It's kinda caught my attention that you ask these sorts of meta questions but aren't really that curious about the answers.

Do you think this behavior is scummy? I'd think it was.

Empire, probably nothing.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #648 (isolation #132) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:10 pm

In post 645, fferyllt wrote:
In post 551, SleepyKrew wrote:

In post 458, fferyllt wrote:
UNVOTE

Do you have a history of avoiding lynching strong players D1?

In post 555, SleepyKrew wrote:
No need to dig up games; I doubt you'd lie about that and I'm lazy.

I thought Maestro was your top scumread at the time?

642 sounded like you have multiple examples. I honestly doubt that this specific thing is something you'd lie about if you're scum.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #651 (isolation #133) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:14 pm

By "this behavior", I meant the asking but not checking that you're accusing me of.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #653 (isolation #134) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:25 pm

I could check if you like

You offering to provide proof on that was proof enough.
Maybe I'll follow up on Peabody, maybe I won't. THE WORLD WILL NEVER KNOW

SleepyKrew · Post Post #656 (isolation #135) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:33 pm

I'm going to look into that tomorrow but I'd appreciate if ffery and Empire and anyone else who wants to also did

SleepyKrew · Post Post #659 (isolation #136) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:37 pm

In post 657, Peabody wrote:
In post 656, SleepyKrew wrote:I'm going to look into that tomorrow but I'd appreciate if ffery and Empire and anyone else who wants to also did
What, looking up your own meta or mine?

Uh, yours.

In post 658, Empire wrote:
In post 656, SleepyKrew wrote:I'm going to look into that tomorrow but I'd appreciate if ffery and Empire and anyone else who wants to also did
Will try to do it in the morning chief, though my activity's going to not be so great until Sunday since Fridays/Saturdays are usually bad for me.

DO YOU HAVE A HISTORY OF THIS

SleepyKrew · Post Post #661 (isolation #137) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:53 pm

I was hoping the tongue would make it obvious I was joking. I am an exceedingly whimsical individual.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #696 (isolation #138) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:17 pm

In post 686, ChannelDelibird wrote:
In post 626, notscience wrote:Everyone died ;-;
This post makes me think notscience is town. You'd think it was an easy thing to say but I've been burned recently by scum who just sat back and observed nothing happening while nothing was happening.

I really don't like the reasoning for this read. IMO:
Generally, when a game is low on activity, coming in and questioning and pushing discussion etc is protown. Just lurking along is generally scummy. Don't you think if he truly cared about getting activity up he'd be more active and more thoughtful and perhaps putting more effort into the game? Don't you also think that something like this ("he's town for commenting on lack of activity) is something that should be judged using a player-by-player case-by-case basis? Do you know that ns hasn't doesn't or wouldn't do this as scum? I don't think you do.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #697 (isolation #139) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:18 pm

Reminder to self: Peabody research

SleepyKrew · Post Post #728 (isolation #140) » Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:17 am

Come back when you're sober.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #736 (isolation #141) » Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:23 am

In post 733, Brian Skies wrote:This might be anti-town, but I don't care.

No. Bad. Fix it.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #739 (isolation #142) » Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:29 am

In post 733, Brian Skies wrote:However, now that pressure has dissipated off her a bit, she is already resorting to a utility lynch.

We have 4 days. And the pressure on me dissipated pretty much as soon as I replaced in.

Also

In post 614, SleepyKrew wrote:I am a guy. That is why it says Gender: Male on all my posts. Can't a guy have a Princess Leia avatar?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #753 (isolation #143) » Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:09 pm

In post 748, Peabody wrote:I agree and disagree with this. I -hate- policy lynches because they just rob us of information. Town and scum alike can say 'This person -has- to die' and thus the information of who was for or against the lynch largely turns out to be null. I -do- agree that there will be a problem if this framed person/miller makes it to lylo.

I like how you took a stance here

SleepyKrew · Post Post #756 (isolation #144) » Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:36 pm

I wanna hear your reasoning re: me por favor

SleepyKrew · Post Post #759 (isolation #145) » Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:03 pm

What did you think about my push to lynch Kaze?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #762 (isolation #146) » Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:42 pm

Oh I definitely wanted him lynched at the time
Do you think my case on him was

good

?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #764 (isolation #147) » Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:55 pm

In case I was wrong. I can push a suspect and preach non-game-specific theory at the same time.
Your response is the one I expected but not the one I was hoping for. Going to bed now. Hopefully I'll do that meta on you tomorrow.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #765 (isolation #148) » Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:57 pm

In post 10, fferyllt wrote:Not much yet!

In post 656, SleepyKrew wrote:I'm going to look into that tomorrow but I'd appreciate if ffery and Empire and anyone else who wants to also did

ffery please acknowledge

SleepyKrew · Post Post #767 (isolation #149) » Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:08 pm

Uh no I was pretty confident that he was scum
But then I was lazymode for a few days and then I reassessed
And my reassessment said Brian lynch choo choo

SleepyKrew · Post Post #768 (isolation #150) » Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:08 pm

Why am I still awake D:

SleepyKrew · Post Post #770 (isolation #151) » Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:22 pm

Dankerschnitzel

SleepyKrew · Post Post #775 (isolation #152) » Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:57 am

In post 772, Peabody wrote:
In post 767, SleepyKrew wrote:Uh no I was pretty confident that he was scum
But then I was lazymode for a few days and then I reassessed
And my reassessment said Brian lynch choo choo
Hm. You said you were coaching him in case he was town. Is this not showing some lack of confidence in your vote? I don't understand why you'd lie about that if you are town.

I can be confident without being certain.

In post 773, Peabody wrote:
In post 764, SleepyKrew wrote:In case I was wrong. I can push a suspect and preach non-game-specific theory at the same time.
Your response is the one I expected but not the one I was hoping for. Going to bed now. Hopefully I'll do that meta on you tomorrow.
What were you hoping for?

"Yes it's a good case"
"Oh look Peabody is scum because a townie wouldn't call a case on their slot good"

SleepyKrew · Post Post #778 (isolation #153) » Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:46 am

P sure I'm one of those people
And honestly I think it's bad for the game if I stay THAT ACTIVE throughout

Deadline extension *thumbsup* but an extension given for the game stalling is an extension given for the wrong reason

SleepyKrew · Post Post #779 (isolation #154) » Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:49 am

SpyreX, do you think your playstyle has changed since Artemis Fowl?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #780 (isolation #155) » Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:56 am

What about since Through a Puppy's Eyes?

SleepyKrew · Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:49 am

In post 782, pitoli wrote:
Garmr prodded.

mod

So no deadline extension?

SleepyKrew · Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:51 am

In post 696, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 686, ChannelDelibird wrote:
In post 626, notscience wrote:Everyone died ;-;
This post makes me think notscience is town. You'd think it was an easy thing to say but I've been burned recently by scum who just sat back and observed nothing happening while nothing was happening.
I really don't like the reasoning for this read. IMO:
Generally, when a game is low on activity, coming in and questioning and pushing discussion etc is protown. Just lurking along is generally scummy. Don't you think if he truly cared about getting activity up he'd be more active and more thoughtful and perhaps putting more effort into the game? Don't you also think that something like this ("he's town for commenting on lack of activity) is something that should be judged using a player-by-player case-by-case basis? Do you know that ns hasn't doesn't or wouldn't do this as scum? I don't think you do.

CDB did you address this?

SleepyKrew · Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:30 pm

Could you at least say which post is by which person?

SleepyKrew · Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:48 pm

Not yet. Should be able to do it tomorrow.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #809 (isolation #160) » Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:16 pm

I ask because in Artemis, your first post was a replacement catch-up post full of reads and you voted your top scumread
In Puppy you hammered with your first post
But no vote early from you in this game
And I just don't know how to take this
Can you talk me through why you didn't vote Aero please?
Or just quote if you've said it before

SleepyKrew · Post Post #811 (isolation #161) » Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:32 pm

Brian

SleepyKrew · Post Post #812 (isolation #162) » Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:34 pm

lolwagon?
Are you saying the Aero wagon wasn't serious?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #814 (isolation #163) » Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:37 pm

In post 813, SpyreX wrote:I still dont see that being scum.

Does "that" mean Brian?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #816 (isolation #164) » Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:40 pm

What's Peabody done to make you suspect him?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #820 (isolation #165) » Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:58 pm

In post 814, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 813, SpyreX wrote:I still dont see that being scum.
Does "that" mean Brian?

I don't care if you still don't see him as scum. Do you honestly think a potential Vig shouldn't take out the Miller claim?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #822 (isolation #166) » Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:33 pm

Safe is often boring

SleepyKrew · Post Post #832 (isolation #167) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:03 am

In post 828, Grimgroove wrote:SleepyKrew' interactions starting from page 7 read like a protracted effort to appease, but not at all genuine.

VOTE: SleepyKrew

I already know I'll want exchanges with this person.

Let's exchange.

In post 826, Grimgroove wrote:CrashTextDummie read very opportunistic to me at first, both by asking for more rope for me while I was how I was, and by taking such a strong stance on "lynch all millers". But after reading his explanation on why he thought millers should be lynched, I ciould see town motivations shine through it. I like how he found the inconsistency between the Wiki and what Brian was saying. It's something you'd only be looking for as town thinking you can catch scum.

Read the last line
Then read my post to CDB about his ns read
Then apply that to this

In post 829, Grimgroove wrote:
In post 203, pitoli wrote:
In post 202, SleepyKrew wrote:
@mod

Can we see sample Miller, Mafia Goon and Serial Killer Role PMs?
No clue if that's actually allowed

Nice try
, but no lol
Hmmm.
Not sure if I should do this, but this does read like a mod-town-interaction.
Hrm. But the request itself by sleepyKrew is scummy. There was simply no way of getting those samples from the mod. Asking it feels like it's more for show than for result.
Continuing catch-up.

Why was there simply no way? We already have a public VT PM. What's the harm in trying? Saying I'm trying to look like I'm doing something but not actually doing something doesn't work if I'm also doing lots of other things (which you say aren't genuine, but still acknowledge I was doing)

In post 830, Grimgroove wrote:Regardless of these reservations I don't think Brian Skies should be lynched today. The way I understand it once a Miller-claim has occured, there's a form of natural selection that transpires, sparing us from having to do heavy-thinking.

Yes that's called making the Miller dead

SleepyKrew · Post Post #833 (isolation #168) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:04 am

In post 785, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 696, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 686, ChannelDelibird wrote:
In post 626, notscience wrote:Everyone died ;-;
This post makes me think notscience is town. You'd think it was an easy thing to say but I've been burned recently by scum who just sat back and observed nothing happening while nothing was happening.
I really don't like the reasoning for this read. IMO:
Generally, when a game is low on activity, coming in and questioning and pushing discussion etc is protown. Just lurking along is generally scummy. Don't you think if he truly cared about getting activity up he'd be more active and more thoughtful and perhaps putting more effort into the game? Don't you also think that something like this ("he's town for commenting on lack of activity) is something that should be judged using a player-by-player case-by-case basis? Do you know that ns hasn't doesn't or wouldn't do this as scum? I don't think you do.
CDB did you address this?

For Gg (and still CDB too)

Also,.I didn't remember that both my parents are home today, so I'll probably have to put Peabody research off until tomorrow. Sorry :/

SleepyKrew · Post Post #836 (isolation #169) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:23 am

In post 835, ChannelDelibird wrote:More a bit later but, Skrew, I did respond.

Oh thanks

In post 706, ChannelDelibird wrote:
In post 696, SleepyKrew wrote:I really don't like the reasoning for this read. IMO:
Generally, when a game is low on activity, coming in and questioning and pushing discussion etc is protown. Just lurking along is generally scummy. Don't you think if he truly cared about getting activity up he'd be more active and more thoughtful and perhaps putting more effort into the game?
I think it's more helpful to the town to come in and question and push discussion etc in that situation, but I don't think that means that just saying "everyone died ;_;" is not something also done by town. From what I've seen of notscience, I wouldn't actually necessarily expect more pushing than that.

Don't you also think that something like this ("he's town for commenting on lack of activity) is something that should be judged using a player-by-player case-by-case basis? Do you know that ns hasn't doesn't or wouldn't do this as scum? I don't think you do.
I haven't done a thorough examination of all of notscience's games and I'm not going to for fun reasons. I'm using my limited anecdotal experience with him and a recent reminder from another game of how scum prefer it to form a hypothesis, which does the job of answering the question to myself of "would I be OK to lynch notscience today?".

No further questions at the moment.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #837 (isolation #170) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:26 am

In post 834, Grimgroove wrote:Don't have much time left and won't be online anymore, but to already address one point: you're putting my townread on CrashTextDummy into question, right?

I don't think it's something scum would do, no, going to look at a Wiki-page to find an inconsistency.
Why? Because scum wouldn't expect even in the slightest to find one. So why bother?

That's where my townread on CTD differs with CDB's reason for townreading notscience: CTD showed genuine town-motivated activity.

notscience did not show activity, only the motivation.

That being said, I also think notscience is town.

You seem awfully preoccupied with questioning townreads, SleepyKrew? Getting too cramped for you?

You're addressing the wrong part. Do you think checking the wiki is something specifically

CTD

hasn't doesn't wouldn't do as scum?

Yes this one vote on me with no support from anyone else makes me really nervous
I'm def not questioning townreads that I think have been explained with questionable reasons
That's too high level for me

SleepyKrew · Post Post #857 (isolation #171) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:13 pm

In post 853, Empire wrote:I had a good town bloc forming and started to hone in on some suspects but it's hard to do that when they're not even there for me to sort out.

YYR was in your scumlist, so that's excused
But suspect

S

?
Only other person that hasn't been here is Kazeslot
You had Kaze as town
So when did you try to hone in on him?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #862 (isolation #172) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:51 pm

Don't forget to look for what I asked for too
Which I will also do

SleepyKrew · Post Post #881 (isolation #173) » Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:54 am

In post 869, Grimgroove wrote:
In post 232, SleepyKrew wrote: Okay quick look at his ISO (lol) and yeah you're right. Didn't think about it that way. Carry on.
*sigh*
Maybe read his ISO before critisizing people who voted him?

This post exemplifies what I think of SleepyKrew's entrance: he critisizes, questions everything, but what does he do? Is there any factual backing to his criticism? And when questioned himself always chooses for the "attack is the best defense"-adagio. He never allows the discussion to revolve around his behavior. He's busy kicking the sand under his feet, all around him, until we can't see him anymore.

What the hell is that first line
That is bullshit condescending "advice" because you're pretending all the Maestro votes were as thought out as ffery's when clearly they weren't. Yeah my criticism of her vote was bad, that's why I dropped it. Do you think my criticism of the other Maestro votes was bad too? How come I didn't drop that?
Please show me multiple examples of me being questioned and replying as you described
How am I stopping discussion about myself? Examples?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #882 (isolation #174) » Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:58 am

In post 878, Peabody wrote:Grimgroove is definitely town. His assertion he will eat paper if I'm scum assures me of this. As I reviewed his iso, I wanted to lynch him, but no. Scum wouldn't say this.

What the hellllll
Do you really think
No scum ever has been this "sure"of a read
And especially while high

SleepyKrew · Post Post #884 (isolation #175) » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:11 am

In post 883, Grimgroove wrote:Yes, your criticism of the other Maestro votes was bad too, as they were based on the same posts you find in that eye-opening ISO.

No they weren't
They were lolpressure look at us we're useful
Clearly not the same as ffery's

In post 883, Grimgroove wrote:And it's a thing that's difficult to get through examples. People should do as I did (and as notscience is doing) and simply re-read the topic. Somehow it gives you a certain perspective and a certain feel of things. I'm quite positive everyone re-reading the thread will end up voting you.

Oh no proof okay then

SleepyKrew · Post Post #887 (isolation #176) » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:24 am

NOT ALL SCUM PLAY THE EXACT SAME WAY
SOMETIMES THEY DO THINGS THAT "scum wouldn't do"

SleepyKrew · Post Post #891 (isolation #177) » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:32 am

You know most of the votes on Brian aren't just for the Miller claim right

SleepyKrew · Post Post #896 (isolation #178) » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:48 am

In post 892, Peabody wrote:I know, but you can't just ignore every tell. How do you propose we find scum if we ignore things like this? Meta?

Meta and intent
Town tells do not exist
Scum tells are overused

SleepyKrew · Post Post #899 (isolation #179) » Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:03 am

In post 898, Peabody wrote:Hm. Okay. But my reasons for thinking GG is town is intent-based.

Okay not arguing with that

SleepyKrew · Post Post #900 (isolation #180) » Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:04 am

BRIAN I SEE YOU POSTIN
IS THIS GAME STILL TOO LOW PRIORITY

SleepyKrew · Post Post #902 (isolation #181) » Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:12 am

I think Peabody is caught up?
I ask because you posted in multiple other games (and at least one non-game thread) almost an hour ago

SleepyKrew · Post Post #904 (isolation #182) » Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:13 am

Yeah 3 games and a Queue post starting an hour ago

SleepyKrew · Post Post #951 (isolation #183) » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:32 am

ugh
life is a bitch
yeah didn't even start on that Peabody research
probably won't be able to either
reading up

SleepyKrew · Post Post #952 (isolation #184) » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:49 am

In post 939, Grimgroove wrote:Pick five questions out of that list and tell me what you learned from them.

yeah probably not doing that right now

ffery: As I said earlier, I'm in the process of changing my playstyle (dropping the trulziness for srsbsnsiness) so idk how useful that meta is. I still post a lot, but unlike how it used to be, I try to have most of my posts contain some non-fluff.

Empire is less active as scum. He's said so himself (on Skype so I can't really get proof but if he disagrees then we can 1v1). Idk if his inactivity this game is due to that, or due to REAL LIFE
hrmmmmm
Gonna stay on Brian for now

Do not like how SpyreX said he'd like almost any other lynch besides Brian

SleepyKrew · Post Post #973 (isolation #185) » Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:54 pm

In post 968, fferyllt wrote:
UNVOTE

Is that all?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #976 (isolation #186) » Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:03 pm

In post 974, fferyllt wrote:For now.

Can we expect more within the next 5 hours?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #978 (isolation #187) » Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:04 pm

SleepyKrew · Post Post #985 (isolation #188) » Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:09 pm

In post 968, fferyllt wrote:
UNVOTE

In post 980, fferyllt wrote:
VOTE: Empire

Care to explain?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #986 (isolation #189) » Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:11 pm

Also ffery, do you really think an Empire lynch can still happen?

SleepyKrew · Post Post #991 (isolation #190) » Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:35 pm

In post 987, LolWagons wrote:
In post 986, SleepyKrew wrote:Also ffery, do you really think an Empire lynch can still happen?
if youd get ur fukkin ass on it it would

That'd only be 5

SleepyKrew · Post Post #993 (isolation #191) » Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:52 pm

I have to sleep soon so yeah leaving it on Brian

SleepyKrew · Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:13 am

This is a dodge of prodular proportions

SleepyKrew · Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:54 am

Promise content within the next 24 hours

SleepyKrew · Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:56 am

Oh I already did a prod dodge earlier didn't I
Well my chronic headaches have been really bad past few days so that's my excuse and now you should feel bad for me

SleepyKrew · Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:36 am

So I'm just going to keep prod dodging until I reread yesterday (and do that damn Peabody meta), which might take a few real life days. I'll try to also keep up with the current happenings in the thread in case there's stuff for me to address.

SleepyKrew · Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:40 am

blah blah my brain hurts I'll try to do this soon blah

SleepyKrew · Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:11 am

WEEKEND WEEE

SleepyKrew · Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:55 am

In post 1110, SpyreX wrote:This weekend my family leaves for a week.

While sad, that means I will have more time for this.

Because this is ridiculous here.

Say hi to GINGERBABY for me (:

SleepyKrew · Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:36 am

Today's the day I do stuff
But not just any stuff
Stuff in this game!