Mafia Behind the Maiden (Game over!)

[Alchemist]

Vote: Teleporting Speed Hippo

This abomination cannot be allowed to live.

I'm inevitably going to think that Timeater is scum at some point if my one past game with him is any indication of what will happen in this game, but I can live with that.

FYI to all in this game I'm going to be playing completely different than I usually do, part of the reason I wanted to alt. I'm aiming for a more subdued regfan/thor playstyle. Zen-y-ish. Ohmmmmmmmm.

[Alchemist]

Working as intended.

[Alchemist]

Seems strange (???). Are you trying to switch it up because you are usually very hard to read when you're town? If not, then why? (and why announce it to the world?)

Which games have I been hard to read in?

[Alchemist]

We're out of RVS imo.

@Ludi

I am almost always read as town. This isn't the problem. The problem is that I get really sloppy and intellectually lazy, spam threads, and generally my whacky initiatives or stream-of-conciousness posting style gets the town into trouble. I'm trying to be a better player. Fresh slate, new account, shiny avatar, I even changed my forum skin to sepia - I'm trying to ram it home to myself that I should be playing differently. Why wasn't I "internal" about it? Because a lot of these guys know how I play. When they a see a subdued, restrained, and calculating TE posting I want them to know why. That should answer all your questions.

@Quilford

What do you think of Ludi's initial play?

[Alchemist]

Quil's recent post is bugging me because "I didn't even realise I'd done it as scum, ever" feels like a lil white lie. And who exactly were the mafia with Ghostlin in Animal Rescue: petsPick? Because I cant seem to find that info. I wanted to check the validity of Quil's claim because of my aforementioned bugging.

Anyone else think:

@Alchemist: It's funny you ask, actually. He's been asking a lot of questions which really drew my eye, and at first I thought he could be scum trying to look involved. But I think the questions demonstrate a deeper level of comprehension than typical scum ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS kind of thing, like ShadowGirl here: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=21379

Is a bit of a weird and overly-elaborate response? Its like he's going out of his way for Ludi to defend him/paint him in a positive light with a self-supporting premise (shadowgirl link).

Vote: Quilford

[Alchemist]

Quil is going way over the top. Wow.

Also;

Ugh, I didn't want to get agro this early. Fuck.

Pretty sure we got scum here.

[Alchemist]

Selective skimming: engage

[Alchemist]

I'm made this big jpg with bubbles that show conversation/player associations relative to size and groupings but I'm too embarassed to post it.

[Alchemist]

@Spyre just4u babe

Just thought it might be neat to visualize it. Not 100% accurate of course and I probably missed alot, but eh.

Spoiler:

[Alchemist]

im going to bed

[Alchemist]

unvote
vote: ludi

My notes:

(semi-random)

Spoiler:

You know UN, the P is right next to the O on a standard qwerty layout. Pretty sure he just pressed the wrong button. I dont see anything there about autocorrecting. jus sayin'

Spyre, you do get Tammy's initial post right? That she was impersonating Tierce and I? IMO its a strong first post and you spamming HURRR SHE'S SLIME GARBGRBLARWHARBL doesn't really help my read on you. But then again you're one of those players people auto-clear aren't you. Anyway, its like everything after that is you tunneling on tammy with confirmation bias. really feels like a few guys are overreading one sentence to the MAX all while flogging each other's dolphins. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p4088822 is p good imo

@tammy are you flinter?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p4088462 is p. scummy imo. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p4088466 can be read three ways: a slip, transparent (imo) feigning towntelling, or genuine regret. I'm going with the first 2. the lack of interest in quil might be distancing from a few big-name players. just throwing that out there. however despite all that quil's recent posts have me rethinking a little so i'm unvoting.

ludi is bugging me at a gut level, his fingers seem to be in every pie, its like he's trying to be too good - trying to be too town, too relatable. he's being too selective about what he gets involved in.

feels like tammy and tierce are misunderstanding each other genuinely

FOS

the glork claim; unecessary, not needed, reeks of gambit, dont like it. I dont like SpyreX's reaction either "Ehh this claiming doesn't bother me in the intrinsic sense. Although if they're gonna go for it I'd almost rather them go whole hog." err wat, though he later did some backpeddling on the issue. imo glork's alignment is linked to a few other players but i wont list that right now

Tierce maybe buddying/sheeping gamma in http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p4089003 seems like an odd thing to pick up on given the current convo

[Alchemist]

Looking town is easy. OS vote Ludi.

Glork. Your UN vote is bullshit.

Nikanor thats scummy as fuck. Its like OS just fucking summoned you with toast magic.

Tierce do you think SpyreX is scum?

[Alchemist]

What should him being one of your favorite players have anything to do with him being scum or not? srsface

Too early? Really now. You must have some sort of read.

[Alchemist]

Dont die in a firey plane crash, that would be bad.

[Alchemist]

@Ludi

You want me to explain my strong gut read on you? lol pedit nice omgus

@http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cat+hugging+godzilla

Do you think lynching Glork D1 is doable?

[Alchemist]

So your case is I'm hypocritical and I didn't explain my gut read on you well enough to your liking.

Lolyou'rescum. Nikanor is probably scum too.

Do I really have to go tit-for-tat with Ludi right now? I dont want to.

[Alchemist]

My statement still stands and it will stand forever: saying they are looking for someone doesn't bother me. I wish that if that was the route they were going for (in all scenarios in which they're assuming who they are looking for isn't ALSO looking for them) they'd have either kept quiet OR just rolled the hard eight and said who it was. The middle ground doesn't help near as well.

Thats not what you said

Ehh this claiming doesn't bother me in the intrinsic sense. Although if they're gonna go for it I'd almost rather them go whole hog.

Waiiit now I'm having a lapse.

Roles and not PLAYERS?

Implies you didnt have a firm grasp on the situation.

The above post by Spyre just feels like a whole lot of chatter and wise-guy backpeddaling, which he is so good at

[Alchemist]

Ok its time for far more words about this subject than they deserve.

[Alchemist]

I smell your fear

[Alchemist]

Why's that dram

[Alchemist]

Toast, is Hinduragi scum?

[Alchemist]

I also think Tammy is pretty fucking town tbh

IMO quite a bit of the people saying she's scum are just sheeping what a few people have said, and now the argument has snowballed into WELP tammy is autoscum. I just dont think all the people on Tammy have been entirely honest with themselves about it.

[Alchemist]

Is scum Glork even lynchable?

[Alchemist]

Pretty it means votecount number #0

I saw it too

[Alchemist]

Oh, two VCs? Guess that cant be it then.

[Alchemist]

I havent been getting any REM sleep recently, its really horrible ;_______;

@ludi

1. nikanor only posts when mentioned (which hints at tactical lurking) and comes out of the blue with weak RVS shit nobody cares about. throw in the predatory omgus/semi-buddying on ludi and you have a decent chance of scum
2. buzzword is a buzzword. stop it you hypocrit
3. spyre is the type of player that can explain anything away given enough time. the fact that he felt the need to elaborately explain his actions given the specific set of circumstances that led up to that post, and his subsequent reactions (he really had to think about that <3 post, he was spam posting like a mo'fucka before it) lead me to believe he's probably scum given how it does not fit in with his general off-the-cuff style he demonstrated at the beginning of the thread and continues to demonstrate.

other shit:

1. considering tammy's last post my read might be wrong, some things about it are not sitting right with me at all
2. fate's gonna fate (omfg we sync in our ludi read, you're so dead ludi)
3. niknanor getting more scummy compare http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p4091007 and http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p4091024 from a tonal perspective
4. haze has peaked my interest i'm going to read (not skim) his posts later

@dramonic

Considering Kurth is on Micaiah's side, that seems unlikely <<

would you consider posting a list of who's side who is on fluff-wise a pro-town thing to do?

pedit; FUKN NINJAS IM POSTING THIS ANYWAY

[Alchemist]

Tammy is kinda sexy tbh

[Alchemist]

Thats not a ludi vote

[Alchemist]

Ludi used SPAM

Its super effective!

Alchemist used GUT!

Its not very effective...

Ludi used OMGUS and FAKEVOTE

Its not very effective...

Alchemist used TRUTH

Critical damage!

Ludi used DODGE!

Its not very effective

[Alchemist]

This is sort of insulting. I haven't spammed anything, I've tried to post and question to figure out people's alignments. None of my votes have been fake or without merit, and i've explained each one. I have several points against you. And i'd like to know which questions I've been dodging. I've answered anything you've asked.

I don't really see this post coming from town trying to figure out my alignment, (or anyone else's alignment in the game either.) You've thrown down a questionable vote (in direct contrast with your opening post promising calculation and reason), posted a whole hell of a lot without saying anything, and have accused me of things which are patently untrue.

you've spammed the thread in your own way.

did I hurt your feelings? are you going to play the wounded soldier now?

1)posted a whole hell of a lot without saying anything yea okay
2)accused you of things which are patently untrue okay where
3)i've already figured out your alignment its scum
4)i think you are scum therefore its questionable, LOL
5)my recent post, you've dodged it entirely
6)yeah bro your case on me is totally legit okay, lets let the crowd decide that

[Alchemist]

Nice character assassination, glork

You better get comitted.

[Alchemist]

Two m's, always forget

[Alchemist]

@Alchemist:

Not sure what you're trying to ask?
If you're asking me to post the list of every character in the game and who they'd be aligned with assuming perfect flavour matching I could, but the only thing that would do is prevent scum from claiming their role. They probably have fakeclaims anyways.
If you're asking for the entire list of who scum might wanna kill, I posted the obvious ones already (leaders of countries/important protagonists), beyond that is a realm of infinite speculation.

Just meant like

Bob is affiliated with America
Poopmeister is affiliated with The Grand Duchy of Nobody Cares

etc

[Alchemist]

I don't like the Alchemist votes. They're disingenuous and lazy.

Me either, brother.

Me either.

[Alchemist]

Not trying to assassinate anyone's character. However, the manner in which you've made each of your last two posts are far more typically characteristics of scum posting, not town posting. Trying to whip the town into a frenzy using poor insults and fruitless taunting are very characteristic of scum who want people to stop paying attention to the content of an argument and start playing on emotion.

Your last two posts strongly suggest that you are scum. If that's "character assassination" (interesting choice of words, by the way), so be it. But you need to die, sooner rather than later.

Only the last two?

Well more than two suggest that you're scum.

1. Hey guys, does it look like I'm trying to WHIP YOU INTO A FRENZY? IS IT

ORGY

TIME?
2. Who did I insult poorly? I dont think I've insulted anyone. At least not intentionally.
3. Fruitless taunting? Who decides its fruitless? You. Are you the

decider

? I got ludi to respond.
4. Emotions are just as valid as "contents of an argument" - IMO scum can be just easily found by assessing a person's true emotional state as they can be found nitpicking arguements. I have a lot of respect you as a player Glork, but if you're gonna bring this sort weak of stuff to the table, which you consistently have been since the start of the game, I'm going to think you're scum.

You need to die sooner rather than later (ho ho ho). I'm not the only one who has expressed suspicion of you. I can feel it; people are getting very anti-glork, they're just afraid. Afraid of your legendary glork-ness. WELL, I WILL BE COURAGEOUS FOR US ALL. GLORK, YOU'RE SCUM.

[Alchemist]

Glork, instead of evading my post and spinning the conversation back around towards me how about you answer all my points first.

Thanks

[Alchemist]

Duplicity, I totally have a townboner for you but I respectfully disagree about Glork.

Also; I pretty much agree with all of your reads. Except maybe Singer/LLD/OS (check OS's site activity)

[Alchemist]

In all fairness to Toast I immediately saw the null:everyone else bit and was about to vote him then actually read what he said.

YO GLORK, PREDATORY MUCH?

Vote: Glork

[Alchemist]

Good. I never liked baby Jesus anyway.

Note Glork's play towards me the past few pages. He thinks I'm a bothersome bit of dandruff he can sweep off his shoulder. Well guess what. I ain't no dandruff. I'm a bloodsucking mite carrying lethal diseases that will never let go. :3 IMO the Toasty thing is just a nice distraction from his evasive/scummy play. He latched on to it desperately. Even throwing his weight around a little with "Everyone sheep me before it's too late!" But thats just my opinion. Dup, search your feelings. Stop making excuses for Glork's play. There is a reason for it. And ANYWAY. Thanks for reminding me. I'm starting to post too much, aren't I? Sorry. My best scumreads are Ludi, Glork, and Spyre.

I got some extremely strong townreads but I wont list them atm. If you read through my ISO you can probably figure out who they are. Okay. Now that thats out of the way, I've said what I've wanted to say - I wont post for a day or so. There. Not gonna spam the thread. Ohhmmm. Ohmmm. Ohmmm.

[Alchemist]

There are sooo many things I want to talk about. Arhg.

First off, bit of a nonsequitor here - Mafia is a SOCIAL game. I play it SOCIALLY. Mafia is NOT a game of chess. I just wanted to say that. Okay moving on.

This is why I'm voting for glork at the moment, and I'd like you guys to tell me where I'm wrong in my thought process or whats flawed about it.

1. Glork votes me after post http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p4092012 - he gives no reason initially, and its after Nexus voted without giving a reason. As its been pointed out be some other people, it feels disingenous, predatory, and just simply lazy.

2. So okay. I'm down with that. I understand. I think, hmm, "maybe he just thought that post was super scummy, okay - I can accept that." So I shrug it off and address Ludi/the guys who just voted for me here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p4092199. Now, I want you to really analyze what Ludi says, and how I deconstruct what he says in my post. Is my desconstruction fair? Not fair? I think its pretty darn fair.

3. Glork takes aim and snipes with http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p4092289. Again, another pot-shot style post from Glork. Again, I am left to wonder "okay, if my post was so awful, couldn't he be arsed to at least say why?". Going back to what I was previously thinking, I thought my http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p4092199 was pretty fair. Sure it was a little smarmy, but nowhere was I being intellectually unfair towards ludi. I made my points. Again, the theme of predation from Glork continues. I am reminded about what Regfan said about my playstyle (which is pretty spot on), how scum attack me as if I'm an easy ML target. Does this not feel like a case of that right now? Are Glork actions here really town-motivated? Or is he just being lazy? Does he just not understand my playstyle yet? Is it that confusing? You'd think he hasn't been around the block at all, if you accepted that premise. Which I dont.

4. Responding to me with http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p4092336 I desconstruct with http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p4092511. Is my deconstruction fair? I think so. His response was pretty vapid and empty, again it feels like scum-filler trying to FoS without consequences an easy target and pass it off as activity/scumhunting. Thats my interpretation.

5. So does Glork even respond to my post? No. Does he even respond to any of my points? Is the mighty townGlork too good to dirty himself with responding to anything I've said that actually makes sense? What does he do? This is what he does: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p4092574 He pushes a subtle ad-hom attack, suggesting that I'm merely being a politician, speaking without merit. Was my post really without merit? Were my points against his post really and utterly without merit so much so as to suggest I am not worthy of a response? I can only interpret this post as a redirection, a parry, away from the real issue - the points I made in my previous post about him misrepsenting what I have said and what I'm about.

6. Based on just this experience

ALONE

, I feel I have enough for a scumGlork case. I'm not even taking into account his unecessary claim, his comments towards Tierce, and his various other subtle ad-hom attacks.

I feel I am in the right. If you feel I am in the wrong, state why if you can be bothered to read this.

[Alchemist]

@grey

I like ending RVS and being out of it as soon as possible. You may not think its of any use for me to say it, but I think it discourages more random votes, which is bad for the health of the game. Also, I was prompted by Ludi "And by the way, do you think there has been voteable serious content in this thread yet, or not?" Not seeing why I have to draw conclusions from RVS in order for me to say its over. Of course everyone is going to have a different definition of when exactly its going to be over, the line isn't a thin red one but a big fat grey one starting at those first initial RVS posts and ending somewhere around p4.

Satisfied, homie-g?

@tierce

what do you think of http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p4095152

[Alchemist]

Can you not just blanket-town Glork because he's Glork? When you can get around to it, please critically read my post and give me your thoughts.

[Alchemist]

Your move :smarm:

checkmate

@glork

nice use of quotes, another subtle ad-hom attack

[Alchemist]

Actually before Glork responds, can someone else? Please?

Toast, whats your take on: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p4095152

What about you Dram?

Or basically whoever is browsing the thread right now.

[Alchemist]

What does that have to do with the merit of my arguments? Yes, I want you to acknowledge (or anyone for that matter) where exactly my post has value and where it doesnt.

[Alchemist]

yo vi you should use this

http://x9j1.deviantart.com/art/Roy-Fire ... -201436596

Spoiler:

fuckn lol

[Alchemist]

I dont care what it looks like.

Address my points.

[Alchemist]

I did.
Your points are incapable of conveying the "intended" objective and seem purely meant to discredit the person you're interacting with and paint you in a positive light.
With very little success I might add.

Uh, no you didnt.

Whats with all the babbling? Talk to me straight dude.

1. Are my assumptions about Glork's behavior and attitudes fair?
2. Do you acknowledge that Glork misrepsented me in http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p4092336?
3. What do you think of Glork's initial vote on me?

[Alchemist]

unvote
vote: ludi

choo choo

I played glorkRevere, you've been warned.

[Alchemist]

Addressing that last sentence, its wifom and any player like you will have a scumgame pretty close to his towngame.

I understand what he's saying completely but I disagree that you would be so baffled by my playstyle. I think you're too experienced to have never played against someone like me. Simply put, I think the position is bunk. I think your confusion and your willingness to appeal to dup and dram on the issue is an indicator of your insincerity (and he talks about my appealing to the majority, lol). I honestly cannot believe you are so...uhh...editedthisout (no offense) that you do not grasp the semantics or actual meaning of what I'm saying e.g "wounded soldier"/"hurt feelings"/"orgy"/. Its like you're a robot. Maybe you're just one of those people. I'm an extremely jocular outgoing kind of guy who uses really flowery langauge. Maybe we just dont mesh at all. I'm fire, you're water, etc.

Flat-out admit I haven't taken anything else into account? Uhhh, okay. For anyone witnessing this back and forth, re-read http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p4095152. Does that read like someone who is super-stuck in his ways? I'm pretty much begging for people to point out my errors. Not the hallmark of a stubborn automaton.

Its like Glork knows I'm town but is entirely UNWILLING to say it or admit it. Whatever. You'll get investigated/killed/tortured/burnedwithgasoline/etc tonight like you usually do in these big games (right?). No biggy.

[Alchemist]

Whats confusing bro

[Alchemist]

Cool

[Alchemist]

okay

[Alchemist]

I'm voting Ludi, ya derp

@hindu

you scum bro?

@tammy

you single?

@gamma

ludi is scum right?

@MoI

Besides Spyre, if you wanted to/could, who would you dayvig?

@Kat

You're not gonna respond to this and are gonna get replaced, right?

@GI

Who's scum bro?

@Quil

Why you been lurkin so much bro?

[Alchemist]

Lotsa tactical lurking going on.

You know who you are.

[Alchemist]

@Quil

Why you been lurkin so much bro?

School, sleep, no mobile data.

Pretty sure I told you to go away, comply immediately please.

~~

People I have vague, negative feelings about: {Alchemist, dramonic, Duplicity, Gammagooey, Haze, Hinduragi, implosion, MaguaofIllusion, MathGirl277, singersigner, Tammy, Tierce, ToastyToast}
People my mind blanks on: {Teleporting Speed Hippos, Katsuki, Nexus, Oman, UberNinja}
People I have vague, positive feelings about: {Debonair Danny DiPietro, Glork, Lady Lambdadelta, Magister Ludi, Nikanor, Oversoul, GreyICE, SpyreX, Wyrd, Zdenek}

I will look over stuff soonish.

lol, http://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php?a ... 1&sr=posts

People I have vague, negative feelings about: {Alchemist, dramonic, Duplicity, Gammagooey, Haze, Hinduragi, implosion, MaguaofIllusion, MathGirl277, singersigner, Tammy, Tierce, ToastyToast}
People my mind blanks on: {Teleporting Speed Hippos, Katsuki, Nexus, Oman, UberNinja}
People I have vague, positive feelings about: {Debonair Danny DiPietro, Glork, Lady Lambdadelta, Magister Ludi, Nikanor, Oversoul, GreyICE, SpyreX, Wyrd, Zdenek}

Is dat some scumposting rite der?

[Alchemist]

like a boss

happy scumday OS

[Alchemist]

Glork have you ever given a Ludi read?

I'm impressed you held out as long as you did, OS.

[Alchemist]

According the wiki Aether is some super powerful move one of the main characters can do

seems legit

pedit: loltiercerage

[Alchemist]

Glork have you ever given a Ludi read?

I'm impressed you held out as long as you did, OS.

I don't fucking care if I'm dead, you are going to answer why you made this comment.

What? If I had a dayvig I'd have been tempted to use it almost immediately. Nothing to do with you.

[Alchemist]

Okay, that's acceptable. Thought you suddenly had a magical scumread on me and was going lolwut.

to be honest I just skimmed most of your posts

guess i have to go back and read them now huh

[Alchemist]

Glork have you ever given a Ludi read?

I'm impressed you held out as long as you did, OS.

I don't fucking care if I'm dead, you are going to answer why you made this comment.

What? If I had a dayvig I'd have been tempted to use it almost immediately. Nothing to do with you.

You are exactly what is wrong with 2012 site meta.

mafia is a social game

get used to it bud

[Alchemist]

also tierce, stop being a drama queen. its a 30 person game. its not the end of the world. if you're town, shitsucks too bad Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff. If you're scum, oh well you tried. *noogie*

[Alchemist]

@tierce

there there.

[Alchemist]

In other news people trying to paint tierce as superobvtown is scummy

All things said, I think it was a decent shot.

[Alchemist]

I have another ability but I'm not going to reveal it till later

ugh dood why

now that is a bad play

[Alchemist]

All things said, I think it was a decent shot.

You also thought I was scum and think that vigging almost immediately on D1 is not one of the Top Five Worst Mafia Plays, so excuse me if I ignore your opinion for the remainder of this game.

More adhom from Glork surprise suprise

Just be quiet dude. Get off your high horse.

[Alchemist]

>thought

lol yea nice try

[Alchemist]

>constantly attacking someone you think is town with adhom
>protown behavior

pick one

[Alchemist]

Tierce are you bulletproof?

Also I honk I just got a virus on my computer. So... If anyone has good ways to remedy that, would be appreciated.

http://www.malwarebytes.org/

So OS you're standing by your story you werent gambiting?

[Alchemist]

Idk playing it off as a gambit feels weird and unlike you

Why are you playing like this OS

[Alchemist]

The derping is like you (cant remember the game, what was it, some guy with a panda avatar. Whatever)

What isn't like you is making something like 4-5 mistakes on one page. Why would you asked Tierce if she was a BP if you knew you were gambitting? Whats the point? Rewind to a page or so back "Tierce, I'm so sorry".

LEL WAT

imo the gambit comment was a quick mistake, you werent thinking about it (it was a derp, if you will, hue hue), and now you are backpeddling like a motherfucker

unvote
Vote: Oversoul

You have 10 minutes to claim Ike.
You have 10 minutes to claim what your other power is.

[Alchemist]

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh im bein clever here

[Alchemist]

You aren't the boss of me.

I'll think about it.

[Alchemist]

Obviously, couldn't you tell by his voice

[Alchemist]

Why did you ask if she was a BP

[Alchemist]

Thinking about it huh

[Alchemist]

Why did you ask if she was a BP

[Alchemist]

ha ha ha.

ha.

so funneh. funny joke right gaiz?

[Alchemist]

Tierce are you bulletproof?

Also I honk I just got a virus on my computer. So... If anyone has good ways to remedy that, would be appreciated.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUNNNNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[Alchemist]

Thats a fair point too Spyre

[Alchemist]

HOLY SHIT

OS MIGHT BE TELLING THE TRUTH... (maybe he's one of those people fooled by these)

unvote

[Alchemist]

its fine, just dont accept or click yes on anything

its an adware/spyware popup that will lead to [testingworryprevention.in]



whatevs, i habeeb OS for now, i'm v/la for 2 days

[Alchemist]

oh better vote

vote: ludi

[Alchemist]

devil is in the details yo

[Alchemist]

before I go, consider Dram

he's p scummy

[Alchemist]

and ludi

okay

going now

[Alchemist]

That post from tierce saying that Nikanor post concerning Kats was "amazing" or whatever is ridiculously bad.

Ludi is lurking the fuck out

Dramonic is 100% scum

HURR GI AND MOI LETS LISTEN TO KASTUKI AND NIKANOR

Fuckn weak, homies

[Alchemist]

Gamma

You're now officially a triplevoter due to transitive property.

Let me know if that means you actually want it on GI (I'm still not seeing it). But fahhh this game needs blood

Is this legit?

[Alchemist]

Is Tammy pushing a Tierce lynch?

DA FUQ?

Please someone actual dayvig Zdenek.

Katsuki still needs death.

Now this is dafuq. Isn't GI some Mega-boss type player who is an Alphatownie? Why he do dis. Is he playing the Hinduragi card? (ho ho ho, whatever could you mean, Alch?) Eh, dont think so. The scumminess of this post + his initial fluffy interactions/hypocrisy (could be explained away with replace fatigue though) have me reading him as probscum. I'm sticking on Ludi tho.

[Alchemist]

Why do you think Dramonic is scum? And do you have town reads on MoI and GI Alchemist?

ISO Dramonic

[Alchemist]

Why do you think Dramonic is scum? And do you have town reads on MoI and GI Alchemist?

I have a townread on MoI, but thats partially because he is (cant speak for magua) just the type that speaks his mind and doesn't bullshit people. I might be biased. I think they have been pretty genuine though.

About dramonic: show me where he has actually scumhunted. Show me what he's actually done. Information over analysis much?

Pedit: Also tam-tams, I'm single

[Alchemist]

"lol xD I dont scumhunt so quirky dont vote 4 me"

[Alchemist]

unvote
vote: Dramonic

[Alchemist]

Because I'm obviously town?

When I first read through Dramonic's posts they seemed helpful and everything. Now that I am reading through it doesn't seem filled with the scumhunting I thought he was doing. :\

Glork, do you have an opinion for us? I would really prefer it if you didn't replace out and/or quit the site.

Indeed, most of it is just wishy-washy filler

[Alchemist]

Cuz I am.

Umad?

[Alchemist]

Zing

[Alchemist]

Gamma. Your votes; give them to Dram. :3

[Alchemist]

Whats yours, Kitty?

>:3

[Alchemist]

1. Alchemist - Other than posting style and lackluster attack on Glork, the biggest thing that stands out here is relative to Tierce. Alchemist, why did you think Tierce was a good shot when people thought Oversoul's vig was real?

Tierce wasn't confirmed town, nor did her posting indicate anything near as such

Sheep detected

[Alchemist]

Best D1 lynches imo:

Dramonic
Ludi
Nikanor
Toast

Pick one, people

Pedit@tam-tams:might be right about schmugen

[Alchemist]

wow singer you scum?

[Alchemist]

Um I thought it was implied by Vi that there are multiple scumteams?

[Alchemist]

idk im thinking of some post in the queue thread and mentioning 5-6 factions

[Alchemist]

Isn't the whole fire emblem universe based on multiple factions vying for power?

I dont think its a stretch to assume multiple scumteams based on such an IP and the fact that its 29 players.

[Alchemist]

MoI, concerning dram, the whole "dont want him lynched want him vigged" thing is a total cop-out, man.

[Alchemist]

So far I've seen a bunch of people expressing suspicion of dramonic but they aren't voting.

Guys, Dram is fucking scum. Lynch da scums.

[Alchemist]

enlighten me as to why there is one scum faction, restate it for those who missed it

[Alchemist]

You're full of shit.

[Alchemist]

>say there is one scum faction and act like its 100% true verified fact
>get asked why, get asked for elaboration
>be evasive/hint at smoke and mirrors bullshit to make it seem like you know more than you actually do
>get called on it
>act superior because thats all you have
>There's not really any room for a second/hidden scumgroup here. BECAUSE WE HAS DISCUSSED IT ELREDY
>herp derp

[Alchemist]

I GOT ATTITUDE

[Alchemist]

inb4 p80 d1 lynch

[Alchemist]

Can you stop talking about yourself for two seconds and give paragraph-long reads on these people (this also goes for anyone who wants to do a good deed)

DDDP
Quilford

[Alchemist]

We really need a lynch, you can feel the momentum/interest of this game just dying under hopelessness and irrelevant bullshit.

Scum be lurkin, yo.

[Alchemist]

^ a+ scumposting would read again

[Alchemist]

vote: ludi

oh you

[Alchemist]

Gamma

You're now officially a triplevoter due to transitive property.

Let me know if that means you actually want it on GI (I'm still not seeing it). But fahhh this game needs blood

What happened to this

[Alchemist]

Stop saying transitively.

I dont know what it means ;-;

[Alchemist]

But I get it now. Sort of weird though.

hi alchemist.

Vote for toasty.

I'll hammer him

Ludi is a better lynch.

[Alchemist]

OH MY GOD CAN WE PLEASE LYNCH DRAMONIC PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

[Alchemist]

AAAAND Alchemist keeps proving that he's town. Really people who make me laugh are town always. It is known. (Except for when they're not, but even when they're scum if they make me laugh they're town. )

Moon of my life...

[Alchemist]

Nexus are you even reading the thread

I dont think you have

:scumvibes:

[Alchemist]

Or the guy who just posted above me

Because he's scum n' all

[Alchemist]

Spyre do you think Tammy is still scum

Sorry I dont want to ISO you

[Alchemist]

Current wagons are shit.

This game is stale.

Lurkers be lurkan.

Imagine a strong, vibrant wagon. One everyone can get behind. I have a simple favor to ask of everyone in the thread. List YOUR (what you think, dont let anyone else influence your thinking) top 2 scumspects in code tags to show you are actually reading the thread.

Code: Select all

Ludi
Dramonic

Its not asking much. Then maybe, if we have a big enough consensus, we can simply just lynch whomever has the most code-fos's in a practical manner. Thank you for your time.

[Alchemist]

Oh look who isn't reading the thread what a surprise

[Alchemist]

The blue number...its getting bigger...

People who have yet to Code-Fos:

Code: Select all

4. dramonic [Only posted 1 scumread. Tammy.]
5. Duplicity 
6. Gammagooey
7. Glork
8. Haze
12. Lady Lambdadelta
13. Magister Ludi
14. MaguaofIllusion 
16. Nexus
17. Nikanor
18. Oman
19. Oversoul
21. GreyICE 
22. singersigner
24. Tammy
26. ToastyToast
27. UberNinja
28. Wyrd 
29. Zdenek

[Alchemist]

Glad there are no deadlines. Because you guys wont make a lynch for another thousand years.

Yeah, not coding.

Excellent way for scum to manipulate kills to their advantage, especially in early game when their knowledge of potential character names is much more limited.

I fucking KNEW you would say something like.

Yea, excuse me for trying to make something happen and get something real done.

[Alchemist]

I know I'm not one to talk, but both of you are kinda clogging the thread. I'm not reading either of your posts.

[Alchemist]

At least the playerbase has contributed to the code-fos

If you haven't done officially now is the time

[Alchemist]

And he'll flip town

[Alchemist]

Wat

He just acknowledged he thinks you're town

[Alchemist]

Uhh Tammy what exactly are you implying? Regfan is a good player and generally very reasonable. Do you think they shouldnt be taken seriously on some policy?

Please re-state your top two reads.

[Alchemist]

I think you're getting sloppy.

[Alchemist]

Please re-state your top two reads.

[Alchemist]

I'm not sloppy at all. I might be a little tipsy, but I have a perfectly good reason for asking Magua that question.

If thats the case you can tell me what it is.

[Alchemist]

ho ho ho she has fangs, me likey

and not restating your reads? got a good reason for that?

[Alchemist]

lol you sure you arent scum tam-tams

[Alchemist]

Please re-state your top two reads.

[Alchemist]

Please re-state your top two reads.

sorry vi you can delete that

[Alchemist]

Stop with the buddying toots

[Alchemist]

You know exactly what I mean.

Spyre, I'm a believer sweetheart

[Alchemist]

Oh so I think you're scum now I'm a horrible person right?

To say you haven't done any buddying at all this game towards anyone is just lol.

[Alchemist]

I'm a total idiot for thinking you might be scum. Excuse me while I make a xD face.

>acting like you dont know buddying means

Getta loada this sheila, mates!

[Alchemist]

>implying I said I was the only person you buddied

Please, tell me what makes me scum...in your infinite wisdom.

Why, so you can pettifog endlessly like you've done almost this entire game?

Frankly my dear, get vigged.

[Alchemist]

Implosion read is sort of interesting.

[Alchemist]

forum mafia

[Alchemist]

vote: MaguaofIllusion

[Alchemist]

zzzzz just end the day

[Alchemist]

I'd just like to say that like 8 people have expressed agreement in Ludiscum. Its viable.

Can we do that? T_T I dont really want to lynch MoI but atm but I really feel we need Blood for the Bloodgod so much so I'd just about to give my firstborn to appease him.

[Alchemist]

So...OS was scum?

ALSO WTF SO RANDOM

[Alchemist]

Nvm guess not after rereading my role pm

[Alchemist]

I found a translator for the ancient language in Fire Emblem. That message reads 'Please hurry... You are... already one cycle behind!'

wat

its a png

link to translator you ponytroll :I

[Alchemist]

So OS was Destined to die I guess

I'm such a tard, had to think about that

[Alchemist]

It would explain his gambit too

[Alchemist]

On cycle behind

How exactly are cycles gauged

Someone do the legwork on Vi's posting habits this game

[Alchemist]

Wut.

Is this like nightless and no deadlines but the scum kill is on a fixed cycle?

Oversoul was most definitely some sort of http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... dal_Townie IMO.

The usage of the words "collapsed", his death flavor, the way he played - everything.

[Alchemist]

unvote

not so fast

[Alchemist]

Vi, requesting votecount.

[Alchemist]

Vote: Nikanor

@schmugen Should be obvious I just want to see the cycle number

[Alchemist]

Obviously. ATM I'm trying to figure out what real life timeframe cycles are on. Help me out, Tierce. ISOing Vi.

[Alchemist]

Everyone get the fuck off Magua right now.

[Alchemist]

The number in the VC does not correlate with a fixed time. Already looked. It is related to activity.

(And Vi has some odd thoughts about the "worth" of activity; it is not directly related to the number of posts.)

Define activity

Provide proof

[Alchemist]

I explained very clearly that Oversoul was town but nobody ever listens.

Whatever I guess I'm ready for the day to end.

Vote: MaguaofIllusion.

this goes beyond simple laziness and pretty obviously into opportunistic scum territory

[Alchemist]

Our role is masonizer. If we target "eligible" (actual term used) people, we will be confirmed Town to them and them to us.

We do not know what "eligible" means -- Vi won't elaborate -- but it is our suspicion that it is roles that originate in our own country.

GET OFF MOI RIGHT RIGHT NOW

[Alchemist]

OS said we had one cycle left. We need to lynch someone.

AND FAST. Scum will try to obstruct IMO.

[Alchemist]

Pretty sure you are dead wrong about that and OS's role serves as a warning before something bad happens and scum tentacle-rape someone at cycle 18.

[Alchemist]

Nikanor pretty obviously playing lazy scum

He needs rope, guys

[Alchemist]

responding to TSH in a second,

Decided to do this for the blue numbers, all times gmt -8

Thread opens; Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:23 pm, (blue number = 0)
Post #203 (isolation #9) » Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:46 am (0)
Post #312 (isolation #10) » Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:19 pm (0)
Post #358 (isolation #11) » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:56 am (0)
Post #436 (isolation #12) » Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:41 pm (2)
Post #509 (isolation #13) » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:45 am (2)
Post #577 (isolation #14) » Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:13 pm (3)
Post #618 (isolation #15) » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:16 am (3)
Post #739 (isolation #16) » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:43 pm (3)
Post #857 (isolation #17) » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:08 pm (5)
Post #898 (isolation #18) » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:17 am (5)
Post #935 (isolation #19) » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:05 pm (6)
Post #990 (isolation #20) » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:58 pm (6)
Post #1004 (isolation #21) » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:50 pm (8)
Post #1086 (isolation #22) » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:03 am (8)
Post #1151 (isolation #23) » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:12 pm (9)
Post #1230 (isolation #24) » Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:21 pm (11)
Post #1258 (isolation #25) » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:01 pm (12)
Post #1304 (isolation #26) » Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:51 pm (14)
Post #1385 (isolation #27) » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:12 pm (15)
Post #1454 (isolation #29) » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:22 pm (17)

I'll crunch some stats on this, but if anyone else wants to, could be appreciated, trying to find links between number and post, or date

I was going to do that but got discouraged.

Try to count the votes inbetween the posts and I'll consider not vigging you

pedit: lol k nik

[Alchemist]

How do you know what I think

You dont

[Alchemist]

No that's stupid. A suicidal townie would only kill themselves because they were about to be lyched and that obv didn't happen.

your autism is raring up, bro. notice i said "some sort"

this is theme park

[Alchemist]

It's this strange thing I have of going by things that you've posted, eg, "Nikanor is lazy scum for post #1466" and thereby assuming that that is what you actually mean.

do i really have to spell out entire cases because [editeditout]

no thanks

i'm done for awhile, have fun

vote is staying on nik

[Alchemist]

Its still cycle 17 fyi

Inb4 18 and I'm vindicated

[Alchemist]

Oversoul collapsed

He wasnt killed

[Alchemist]

That means I should probably try to substantiate my MoI inklings at some point. Someone remind me to do it tomorrow.

Hey look ... we are now 5 days later and this never happened.

Why is that Glork?

My enthusiasm for this game is approaching nil. Sorry.


FWIW, I'd almost rather just policy lynch a probable lurkerscum at this point.

how about quilford

Vote: Quilford

[Alchemist]

[Alchemist]

i think i like this actually.

unvote, vote:quilford

triple voters: engage

[Alchemist]

Nominate timeater for the title:

Glork Sheeped Me

woops wrong thread

[Alchemist]

Dat apathy

[Alchemist]

So Quilford just claimed scum can we get this show on the road? Thanks.

Quil, be a champ and selfvote my love <3

[Alchemist]

Dat AtE

[Alchemist]

Anyone else find it bizarre how out of touch Tammy is?

Thoughts on Quil, Glork?

[Alchemist]

^.^'

[Alchemist]

fuck tierce you scared me

not cool man

[Alchemist]

Quil plays lurky scum.

This is a fact.

Now that we've accepted I'm probtown, how about we put down the noose and back off.

Nice try but thats not how it works.

[Alchemist]

Quil: heh heh heh lurking is fun

OH SHIT PEOPLE ARE VOTING FOR ME: TAPPA TAPPA TAPPA IM NOT SCUM ARGHHHHHHHHH OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.! MEH! I DONT CARE. WHATEVER. /PUTS ON GOTH MAKEUP. I KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN. HRMPH! OH, TIERCE IS SCUM! YEA!

Spoiler:

It was cruel to give him hope

[Alchemist]

P.S. Don't really think that Quil is scum; early vanilla claim is not really scummy at all.

because everyone should be lynched on what they claim right

[Alchemist]

FYI Quill's initial reaction to his quickwagon wasn't townish at all and you're silly if you think it was

[Alchemist]

Hindu wants to hammer

[Alchemist]

WELP

[Alchemist]

At worst he's just trolling

At best he's some sort of scum-lover

Inbetween you have a badgambit/backpeddling/flailyish scum association [probably this]

[Alchemist]

agreeing with GI's sentiment

[Alchemist]

Vote: Ludi

lol@at these preamble scum arguments to try to build an atmosphere of anti-alchemist sentiment. YO SCUM YOU CANT LYNCH ME ITS IMPOSSIBLE SORRY BROS ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET RID OF ME IS VIA NK

[Alchemist]

I might also vote SpyreX depending on how slimely his next post is

[Alchemist]

lol @ Alchemist OMGUS vote on Ludi

lol @ UN defending Ludi

lol @ UN implying I haven't been saying Ludi is scum all game

lol @ UN being scummy as fuck

lol @ UN bringing nothing to the table consistently except garbage

get on my level scumfuck

[Alchemist]

bitch please

i aint even mad

[Alchemist]

Do you think UN is town

[Alchemist]

Bit of a non sequitur here but I'm watching Trigun for the first time on netflix, on the 3rd ep

Vash is pretty hilarious and lovable

[Alchemist]

Vote: DDD

[Alchemist]

Its a bit early for VCA and you all know it.

Where has Glorkikins gone off to?

DDD

, who's scum?