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Framm has a disturbing lack of blurry wolf pictures...Vote: Framm 18
Blurry pictures of wolves are not cool.
Also, I'm going to fourth the question even though it seems like he's trying to move us out of the RVS which is worth brownie points in my book.
Must be CES or a mistake unless I'm a double voter and wasn't told of itchrono wrote:So, which of Doombunny and CES are the double voter? or is it a VC mistake?-
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I can see the motivation in making attempts to scumhunt as early as possible to end the RVS. What I can't see is why he would choose someone for avoiding wagons rather than anything else.AV wrote:So you see the town motivation behind it, but you want to ask what the motivation behind it is?
I don't really care atm. Its a RVS wagon and if it gets too large I'll gladly take my vote off.AV wrote:Do you think Leo @L-4 is goodthings atm?-
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I understand that its still early in the game and all but is this back and forth really helping? You can debate about whether or not bandwagons and the RVS is helpful all you want but its not going to catch us any scum.
My current reads (Which I admit are weak, but that's to be expected) are on ghost who is more or less the one that brought up this sidetracking debate and is definitely fueling it. For example:
Woah, woah, woah... Are you really concerned about someone being quicklynched this early in the game? This is either an extreme over-reaction to the Leo wagon (Unlikely) or just pointless discussion (More likely).Ghost wrote:I feel that creating random wagons without at least a little information encourages sheeping, which is not a protown behavior, which could encourage the quick lynch.
Other than that, Ghost seems to be trying to extend the RVS:
So you're waiting for someone to just say something scummy... But don't want to pressure anybody into doing anything? There are a few problems with this: First of all, if you're just planning on waiting for someone to slip up, no one ever will. What do you expect to happen? Someone to announce that they're town? Pressure and early discussion is one of the best ways to kick up scumhunting early on and to get town out of the RVS. By just sitting there and waiting for other people to slip up on their own, you're just unnecessarily lengthening the RVS.Ghost wrote:I think you expect someone to crack with early pressure, but most good players are aware a RVS is that...an RVS.
We're waiting for someone to stir the pot. To say the one thing that gets us interested and votes flowing; and I concede that's important, but I dislike using my most powerful weapon to vote someone that I don't honestly believe is scum for the sake of getting there. I recognize there's probably no better way to do it, but it doesn't mean it has to be my favorite part of the game.
Unvote, Vote: Ghost
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Any reason for the vote change or are you just trying to get in on a bandwagon?Leo wrote:Leo shakes their head at Chronopie post 51, nods at Cogito Ergo Sum post 53, unvotes doombunny9, and votes ghostlin.
@Anyone whos played with Leo before- Seeing as I'm too lazy to check right now, does Leo always play like this? (I don't mean talking in third person, I mean the lack of explainations)
Not true. Framm's vote is RVS and no one even knows why Leo is voting you.Ghost wrote:Considering I've drawn three votes on your premise that I'm extending RVS
The concrete reason for voting you was for seemingly trying to draw the town away from scumhunting by talking about pointless topics, and as you just said, not really trying to scumhunt and just watching other people.Ghost wrote:what's the concrete reason you're voting me, who's giving you a reason for how he thinks, although you think I'm wrong, a better candidate then Leo, who is doing pantomime, or many of the other posters that haven't posted yet and are lurking?
As for why I chose you other than other people: Its too early to build a lurker case on someone seeing as how we're only a few days into the game and everyone's made at least a few posts so far. I'm also against Lynch All Lurkers unless there are other reasons to vote them to go along with it. As for Leo, I advise you to pay attention to when the posts were made. At the time of my last post, I had no idea Leo would be so much of a problem seeing as how he started messing around AFTER my last post. Speaking of Leo...
He starts off with a couple of fluff posts which don't really tell us much other than that he doesn't care about his wagon and that CES confused him. Alright, that's understandable seeing as how we're still early into the game. But then he goes off and changes his vote to ghost without providing an explaination. Leo is definitely worth a closer look from now on
Anyway, some questions to people:
@Leo-Can you explain your vote on Ghost?
@Leo-Is the new way you're talking due to a post restriction or just something you're doing for the hell of it?
@Stranger- I second Power's question. Why did you feel the need to post fluff on something as pointless as a capital letter?
@Everyone who still has their RVS on someone- What do you think of Ghost? Leo? Do you have any strong reads on anyone yet?
Finally, I willUnvotesince Ghost reads to me as town and as he stated, it may just be me not liking his playstyle and he is posting what he's thinking which is more than I can say about some people. Besides, Leo needs further examination in his next posts.-
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At this point its pretty likely that most of the scum are hiding in the background trying to look active without really saying much. I'm looking at Stranger in particular. Other than Leo, he doesn't seem to be scumhunting much and rather just makes noise. The most obvious example of this is rather than comment on anything said since he last posted, he asks chrono why he capitalized an H. He may have been just teasing but even so, its just noise. Before I make too sudden of a decision, I'd rather hear from people who haven't talked much in a while (Ant, Framm, etc.)-
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I can agree with most of what has been said about Plum. The only thing that makes me hesitate to vote her is that other than the vote, she hasn't done too much other than the vote on Zodiark which again, is somewhat understandable seeing as how it was still early. I'd like for Plum to explain herself before I come to a conclusion.
stranger continues to make noise without really saying much at all (Yes, we know that's all and we know that he's going to post. He even backed it up with past games)
Here's a fun fact for you all. Ant has been posting in other games but not this one.-
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How is this hypocritical? Zodiark seems to be voting Leo forPlum wrote:Zodiark votes Leo who has several other votes on him. This is hypocritical.purposefullybandwagoning for the sake of bandwagoning and even backs up this statement by saying Lero isn't providing reasoning.
Did you bother to read the time signatures? Zodiark made that post before Leo linked that page (The posts are even sorted according to time, this shouldn't be a problem)Plum wrote:Did you bother to read the page Leo indicated or not?
"I should of done this on my last post, but I will do it now."Plum wrote:Ghostling, what changed between your first post directed at me after my Zodiark vote and the one right after AV's vote on me? In which you quoted him and then voted me? I didn't post between those two posts and you expressed pretty similar views about my behavior in both. So what was new?
If this doesn't answer your question I don't know what will.
I haven't found anyone particuarly scummy up until this point (Other than ghost previously but as you can see, I changed my mind about that)Plum wrote:I am irritated by your lack of votes altogether
Then why vote Leo over Ant? I for one would think that someone who at least does something should deserve to live longer than someone who ignores the game completely.stranger wrote:No. Neither are going to be of any help to us.
In this last post, Plum twists three situations around to put people in a scummy light. Plums reasoning for voting Zodiark is particularly weak as well and to me just looks more like Plum disagrees with Zodiark's playstyle rather than thinks he's really scummy.-
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Can you show me where he's being hypocritical? For it to be hypocritical he'd have to be throwing around votes too easily. Seeing as how he only voted one person (Not including his RVS vote) and he provided reasoning for it, I can't really see that.Plum wrote:The 'no reasoning' thing was worded as a supporting point/icing. I think it's hypocritical to call someone out for throwing out votes too easily on someone who already has votes on in the course of voting someone with more votes on him. I see nothing about " bandwagoning for the sake of bandwagoning" in Zodiark's statements here.
The "bandwagoning for the sake of bandwagoning" part was me misunderstanding Zodiak's post
What does this have to do with anything? If someones reasoning for voting someone (Leo gets a bye since this seems to be his meta) is "Go look at him in iso. It's obvious he's scum." I'd think that would be pretty fishy regardless of whether or not I looked or not.Plum wrote:I want to know if he even looked at the page that he acknowledged was being pointed at at the time he made that statement.
The only things you've said about Zodiark's RVS comment was "[this part cut out for bring unimportant in this case] justifying a weak reason to vote someone who has a big bandwagon on him (the phrase 'even more so' I find particularly jarring) seems scummilicious. My wording was less clear about this, but the way in which Zodiark invoked the end of the RVS was scummy.", "He's not qualified to make a bad, scummy accusation against someone and back it up with his interpretation of the RVS in this game. It's too subjective to be anything but a bad justification, as opposed to an honest reason.", and "And justifying a vote on a player based on one's own judgment of when the RVS ended - a judgment which, as you acknowledge, doesn't necessarily apply perfectly to him - is bad and can be done in a scummy way. As here."Plum wrote:Did you read the multiple times I referred to Zodairk's scummy approaches to justifying his Leo bandwagon vote through his RVS statement, rather than is just being a general statement in my last post?
Which are basically all one and the same. Basically, its a weak support (I'd agree with this but he does have more on Leo which together makes it a solid case considering the time he made it), and because he shouldn't have assumed that Leo didn't think the RVS was over. If this is the meat of your case its pretty damn weak and while I agree that he shouldn't have naturally assumed tat Leo was "out of the RVS", people were getting into serious discussion, making serious votes, and from the point of view of Zodiark, it would make sense to say someone is scummy for not posting any content at that point.
Yes, and normally I'd be voting you but I have no reason to disbelieve CES (And even if I did, it would be pretty risky). But since you want I vote so bad (And to be honest, I probably am putting it off too much) I'llPlum wrote:Am I particularly scummy yet, then?
Vote: stranger
Including what I've said before about him, even if he just wants to policy lynch Leo/Ant, he should still be scumhunting.-
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Remember our good friend Chrono? Turns out she went all Ant on us and is posting in other games not this one.
Only this one? I find that hard to believe.Ant wrote:I've been updating my system and I lost the bookmark for this, Surprised I didn't get poked.
Also, some questions toward Ant when he gets up to his catchup post:
What are your views on Plum?
What are your views on Leo?
Who do you think is the scummiest person right now?
How does make chrono different from some other people (i.e. me, Zang) who just weren't/aren't voting because they don't/didn't have any strong reads yet?Zodiark wrote:For town, their vote is all they have, short of town aligned PR's. The only reason town has to not place their vote is if they feel someone is more scummy, or they person in question is either at L-1, or in danger of being otherwise quickhammered. As of the time of Powers vote, Leo was at L-3, and, as one can plainly see, Leo is his highest scumread, so neither of the above limit him so.-
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That was me not thinking when I made that post and typing someone completely different. I knew/know who you were referring to XDZodiark wrote:First of all, I'm refering to Powerrox, not Chronopie.
I've had plenty of reads on people. They were just too weak to go off of.Zodiark wrote:Second, Power DOES have a read on Leo, as he admits. You and Zang(not that I've been paying much attention to him) don't have reads.
You got it correct. You said you were going to vote Leo for not providing explainations (aka. something specific) despite him always doing it (aka. no matter the context). Your reasoning for Ant is the similar, the only reasoning being that he's not posting (see: Lynch all Lurkers; A policy scheme of voting). Your cases on Leo and Ant just look like you're trying to get hinderances out of the way rather than actually thinkng that they're scum.Stranger wrote: Do I have my definition of "policy lynch" messed up? To me, policy lynching somebody is lynching somebody who does something specific no matter the context. Leo refuses to back up the reasons for his votes, which I consider to be scummy. In RVS, it's all fine and dandy, but once there's info rolling people should be commenting on it. Therefore, I feel that I am scumhunting, even if Leo was the only person I was attacking at the moment.
meh, my badStranger wrote:The last time I checked, Chronopie is male, but thanks for the observation.-
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*sigh*Ant wrote:I can't wait to see what Leos pick was to put a "Talk in 3rd-person only" post-restriction,
Have you even been reading the thread? I recommend post 67 in particular. This looks even more fishy seeing as how Leo seems to be indicating he's played with you before...Ant wrote:I have a feeling his restriction could also be whats limiting his responses, otherwise I don't see the fuss.
I can see reasoning for the power wagon and it looks good but I'm happy keeping my vote here for the time being.
@CES-Erm... This is it? I reckon at least one or two people asked you about why you protected Plum. You could at the very least answer that.-
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I understand that bit but someone (I think ghost but whatever, it doesn't matter) was wondering why you would use up a protect on Plum when she only had a few votes on her.CES wrote:My action speaks for itself.
Please notice how this is coming from someone who isn't scumhunting. Who notices the correlation here?power wrote: But what if a read isn't scummy enough in order to be worthy a vote?
At this point stranger and power are about tied for who I think is scummiest. I'll keep my vote on stranger for now but both of them will be under serious scrutiny.-
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I understand that part but WHY did you protect Plum. This has nothing with your role...You know what, forget it, I may be accidentally rolefishing and I'm basically chasing a lost cause anyway. Be warned, if you claim in the future and your role doesn't support your reasoning for not explaining you, I will be on you so hard...CES wrote: All you know is that I posted "Dayprotect: Plum". You don't know nearly as much as you think you do.
This isn't hypocricy. Hypocricy is when you do something you beleive is wrong (Or in the case of mafia, voting/FoSing someone for reasons that you yourself do). The thing is, Zodiark wasn't voting Leo because Leo voted someone with "a lot". He was doing it because he thought Leo was throwing votes around wildly.Plum wrote: First of all, I happen to be under the impression that there is some degree of opportunistic bandwagoning inherent in Zodiark's vote. In any case, his specification (I paraphrase) 'especially with several votes on Ghost already' regarding Leo's vote looking like intentional bandwagoning is hypocritical given that Leo had more votes on him at the time of Zodiark's vote than Ghost did at the time of Leo's vote. A concern about throwing votes on someone who has many votes is hypocritical to some degree when combined with a vote on someone who has even more votes on him already.
...Power wrote:In fact: /claim bus driver
Well I don't buy that you've been reading the thread seeing as how power gave flavor that makes good sense.Chrono wrote:Well I don't buy the claim of hacker = Busdriver
Why would a hacker be able to change the positions of two people.
@Leo post 203-Fuck yes
Doombunny draws a picture of Plum and SC getting pwned...In the face.Leo wrote: Leo draws a picture of their own best conclusion, with Plum and StrangerCoug as likely scum. Leo hands everyone a piece of paper on which to draw their own conclusion.
Unvote, Vote: PlumThe only thing stopping me from voting her anyway was CES's protect which we now know doesn't work on lynches.-
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I beleive in it because it was a pretty fucking big slip. Rather than beat a dead horse, I'll just direct you to one of the other people who commented on it. If you or SC flip town I'd have to take a closer look at the information regarding Leo and whichever one of you doesn't get lynched and make a choice then. You flipping town does not make Leo scum or SC town as ghost pointed out.Plum wrote: Please give a moment to comment on Leo's 'trap' and why you believe in it so hard, and what your reaction might be should SC or I flip Town, both regarding the other and regarding Leo. Thanks.
I think the prod mechanics are fine. They're pretty similar to what I've been dealing with in other games I've been it. I think its just the players fault for the lack of activity.VV wrote:Question to the players: Are the prod mechanics too strict?
Finally, I'm getting growing suspicions of chrono (Although I haven't decided whether its scummy or just bad play, I'm going to lean towards scummy). He's just active lurking and not giving a damn about scumhunting. His posts are mostly fluff and the only posts that have any meat on them are iso 5 (This is the only good one, at least in this one he seems to be making an effort) and iso 7 (Not scumhunting per-se but at least her point makes sense). In particular note is post 6 in which he doesn't even seem to be paying attention to the thread-
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Why yes I have and I still don't buy it. Your "Oh, I was just trying to get a response from teh mafias" just seems like a cop out to me. If it had been an interception from the scum, what response were you trying to get? If scum legitly asked a townie something and got a mixed response, they wouldn't just out themselves or change their play so drastically. Likewise, if it had been an accident that it was sent to you, they'd just become more discreet, making it harder to get information-
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By "more discreet" I was referring to the ways in which they'd send their messages to each other (i.e. not being too specific)Plum wrote:But you agree that their behavior might change in some possibly perceptible way if they had any fears that their messages were being intercepted. Becoming more discreet might be noticeable and possibly lead to an avenue of scumhunting previously unavailable.
If I'd receive a message, rather than do something pointless like try to fool with them, assuming the PM was meant to go to me, I'd try to analyze the PM for any patterns that match up with any of the players and ifunless my role was an interceptor, I'd out the PM I got rest of the players.Plum wrote: I'd like to know how you'd make use of the information if you received such an anonymous message through the Mod out of the blue, and why my response was necessarily not a Townie one. Not necessarily a good idea from a Townie, but merely the possibility that the response was a Townie's idea.
I can a townie messing up and doing the same thing you did... But I can imagine scum doing it a lot more clearly.
@CES- And you were accusing me of rolefishing XDpower wrote:Then what does the day-protect does?
As for plum's claim, it doesn't really change my mind at all. I can see the role as being either town or scum and it's not testable enough to make me want to unvote. I'm keeping my vote here but I don't want the day to end until Batt has been given enough time to respond.-
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Wikipedia saying the game became known as "sons of lies/deception"=Unvote! He must be town?chrono wrote:While I understand the claim is plausible, and that role != alignment, the a line in the wiki article caught my eye.
The hell?
If Plum flips scum, I wouldn't be surprised to find a connection between him and Chrono. Plum seems to be bussing right before the hammer to try and get Chrono some town-cred while Chrono... Well I don't know what the heck he's doing. At all.
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that still doesn't explain it. You're saying that you think he's scum... But you unvote. lolwut?Chrono wrote:Translation: I believe she is what she claimed, but due to that line, I think she may still be scum.-
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No dead comrades? Hrm... Zat's odd...
Anyvay, I villVote: Chrono
He needs to explain some zings:
-A defense of ze points made against him (Most of vich are in Plum's last post)
-An explanation of vhy he hasn't given any defenses
-A reason vhy he suddenly changed his mind and voted plum
-Reasons vhy he hasn't given any of zese is his last post.
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One dovn, four to go... I vould also like to ask vhy you haven't replied to zis zoughZe most sexiest person playing in zis game wrote:-A defense of ze points made against him (Most of vich are in Plum's last post)
-An explanation of vhy he hasn't given any defenses
-A reason vhy he suddenly changed his mind and voted plum
-Reasons vhy he hasn't given any of zese is his last post.
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-Vho his top suspects are at zis point
so razer zan explain your actions... You decide to end ze day? Vhat?Chrono wrote:
But anyvay, I felt zat ve needed to have more discussion on Plum's claim, thus unvoted, vhilst believing her still to be the most likely scum candidate. Vhen it appeared zat people misconstrued my actions, I decided to take matters into my ovn hands.-
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Ze hell is zis, comrade?power wrote:I believe plum's claim
...Except zat he's arguing zat you vere doing ze opposite: Voting SC (less suspicious) razer zan Plum (more suspicious)Leo wrote: Leo gives Battousai a funny look for arguing that it's scummy to vote for the more suspicious-looking of two candidates instead of the less suspicious-looking.
I'm getting bad vibes from batt. He seems to be trying to appeal to everyone, he's potentially fence-sitting (Chrono's scum... But not really), and ze only FoS he's zrovn (Yup, still looks veird) out is on Leo
...I have no idea vhy chrono is posting in zreads other zan zis one again. He has plenty of zings to explain and he's just lurking instead.-
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[quote="Pover]Vhy is it vrong to comment stuff zat happened during ze time I vas v/la? [/quote]
Zere is no need to, comrade. By saying zat you believe Plum's role you're only stating ze obvious vhile at ze same time looking like you're trying to gain tovn-points...vhich is scummy. Commenting is fine as long as its not repeating vhat vas said.
So vhat? Have you ever seen a game vhere he played as tovn? If you haven't or have and he plays ze same, zis point is null (I'd check but TBH I really don't care)Ghost wrote:Ant B has been doing similar to another game I played with him, and he flipped scum.
Vhile I agree zat Ant is looking anti-tovn, it just reads to me as more nevbie-play zan scummy play. Besides, I vant to hear from chrono before I change my vote to anyone else.-
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I understand zat, comrade. Vhat I was trying to get at is zat I vould razer lynch someone vho I zink is scum razer zan someone vho is just anti-tovn. Lynching someone for playing anti-tovn is a policy lynch and if ve vanted to do one of zose, ve should have done it yesterday.Ghost wrote:Vat's not the point: ze point is he's being anti-tovn nov and vat seems to indicate to me noving good.
If zis is ze case, vhy did you feel ze need to point out zat he does zis vhen he's scum?Ghost wrote:No comrade, and it indeed may be a null.-
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@Ghost- I zink zat zis is just a difference of opinions. I personally don't zink zat active lurking alone is enough to varrant a lynch unless it vas a policy lynch and zere vas no one else zat vas scummy enough to be a better candidate. Ah vell.
Zis is it? You've been posting content in your ozer games but ignore zis one? You have some questions you need to ansver and even if you are Semi-V/LA, you should still be posting in zis zread if you are able to be posting in ozer ones.chrono wrote:ftr: check my Sig.-
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Ze zing is, comrade, zat you shouldn't have only a half assed case seeing as hov ve're a good portion zrough day 2. And don't vorry, you're my second pick behind Chrono.Batt wrote:If you don't like it, vote me. I'm not going to make a half ass case on someone, zen have to reverse it 1 page later.
Or I can prod everyone vho needs it (Or vell, let ozer people do it for me. Zere's no point it telling people zey need to post more content ven ozer people already have)Batt wrote:Instead of prodding me, try prodding the people I'm waiting on, mkay?
Even zough zis is true (Although plenty VIFOMy), it it still very possible zat you are a zird party role.Chrono wrote:Zerefore, on role related grounds, I posulate zat my role would be completely imbalanced in ze scum hands, zerefore I am not scum. and ofc I know my alignment.
Also, I'm villing to give you ze benefit of ze doubt about not having much time to make a post but I vould still like you to ansver ze questions I asked you a fev pages back vhen you have time.
Finally, If ve vant to lynch chrono, ve had better do it soon. Starting at vhen zere are 7 people left, chrono vill be impossible to lynch unless he self hammers (From ze D1 VC he added another 3 votes to need to be lynched to himself meaning zat vhen zere are 7 people it will take 4 to lynch. 4+3=7 meaning he is lynch immune at zis point not including self hammers). Zis doesnt even take into account if he's scum and has scumbuddies zat vill refuse to hammer him.-
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You may have a point, comrade.AV wrote:ComradeBunny, I would hope zat ze modifier is relative to ze number of people left alive in ze game. Once ve have found if ze pover can be reversed, zen maybe ve can test it to see if it is relative or a stock number regardless of ze number of players left alive.
@chrono- Does your ability always add 3 to ze amount of votes needed to lynch you or is it dependant on ze amount of players.
Zese people need to comment more on vhat's been happening and about zeir top FoSes: Pover, Zodiark, Chrono, Ant, Zang, Batt (I don't even care if it's half assed. just shov zat you're doing somezing useful), SC, and CES. *Sigh* You people do knov zat scum can vin easier vhen 3/4 of ze players aren't contributing as much as zey should.-
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Playing ze blame game I see, comrade. Even vizout Zodiark anvering your questions, it shouldn't hinder your abilities to form cases on people ozer zan him.Batt wrote:And zen has ze balls to say I haven't formed an opinion zis game, vhen my opinions are being held back by him.
Vote: ChronoSince I forgot I unvoted until nov and since I found out he has multiple shots, zere's really no more reason for me to keep my vote off.-
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Batt or pover vould be good choices, comrade.chrono wrote:If you vant me to prove it's use again, pick a target for me. Seeing as you don't trust me to do so myself. comrade.
In ozer nevs, you STILL are ignoring plenty of questions ansvered to you and I vant to knov vhy. From my PoV you are either:
a) Ignoring me for vho knows vhy-Zis is a terrible, terrible idea, especially if you're tovn
b) Ignoring me because you have no ansver to ze questions-Need I even explain?
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After reading zrough chronos's explaination of his role, zere is no way in hell zat zis is a scum role (zird party maybe, but I don't vant to vote chrono because of zat until ve have enough reasoning to support zat). Zerefore, i villUnvote
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I have, however, it vas ze specifics vich really made up my mind, comrade. Before his latest post I vas skeptic but still vouldn't be surprised if he flipped scum. ofc, if he's lying about his role, I'll be voting him so hard...AV wrote:Vait. Had you not already read zrough Chrono's explanation ven you voted him ze first time, comrade?
Finally, Batt's reasoning for his vote makes me suspicious. Previously, he said zat he vasn't so sure about chrono and zat he didn't zink chrono vas scum (See: Batt Iso #4 and 6) zen from out of novhere he changes his mind and votes chrono vith ze only reasoning being his unvoting of Plum. Zis just reeks of trying to get a mislynch.
@Batt- Vhat made you change your mind about Chrono between zen and nov?
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Care to share your misunderstanding vith ze rest of ze class, comrade?Batt wrote: Doombunny 460- I had a misunderstanding about somezing, but upon realizing it, it changed my opinion on Chrono.
Pover is at L-2 I believe. If ve get close to deadline and still haven't lynched (Vich looks unlikely at zis point), I vill gladly change my vote to prevent a mislynch.-
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Oh. Zat makes more sense, comrade XDBatt wrote:You're hurting my head. It is fucking role related.
Great idea! He must be scum for not understanding you! And razer zan try to explain vat you meant, you call him scum for no reason vhatsoever! You sir, are a genius.CES wrote:Zat's 'cause you're scum.-
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Now I'm interested. Please go on.CES wrote:He doesn't understand me because of an implicit assumption he's making. And it is definitely an assumption scum would be more likely to make.
Is there a point to this? I don't think that its a good gauge of scumminess and I can't think of any other reasons you would want to see.CES wrote:I don't really benefit from explaining it as I'd like to see how long it takes people to figure it out.-
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First of all, comrades, ze earliest point vhere Chrono vill be unlynchable vill be vhen zere are 7 people alive, and zat vas only if it didn't depend on ze amount of people remaining, vhivh Chrono confirmed.. If you're going to call out statisics, at least do ze math first.
Zodiark also is vasting his vote. No one here vill be villing to svitch their votes to Chrono enough to make a lynch.
Finally, ze zang case just looks like a policy lynch to me zen anyzing else and since zere are plenty of good, scummy candidates avalible for lynch, ve really shouldint te PLing.-
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Vell nov I feel dumb, comrades. Nevermind about zat.Leo wrote: Leo points out that doombunny is using a definition of unlynchable that assumes Chrono doesn't have scumbuddies.
First of all, I am against Lynch all Lurkers unless zere is more to support ze lynch. Also, since he's been gone in all of his games, zat doesn't prove zat he's scum. Vhile I don't like his posting habits, its not scummy. I vould prefer a 2 day lurker lynch but since zere are enough scummy targets to lynch instead, ve don't need to lurker lynch. If I need to vote to prevent a No Lynch, so be it, but ve still have a fev days and I'd like to lynch someone scummier zen zang.DB wrote: Leo wonders why doombunny thinks zang isn't scum.
Leo wonders how many game days doombunny thinks it's okay to let scum go without saying anything at all.
Leo wonders whether doombunny would prefer a day 4 lurker lynch over a day 2 lurker lynch.
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Oh, you have a point, comrade. I zink I can do zat. If ze post comes or he gets too close to lynch I vill unvote (Unless its close to deadline).AV wrote:Vould you care to put some pressure on to guarantee ve get ze promised huge post, Comrade Bunny?
Unvote, Vote: Zang
Feel free to take a look at Political Coalitions MafiaLeo wrote:Leo looks around for other mafia games in which Zang is alive, and doesn't find any since his post about "focusing on other games" in mid-February.-
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I seemed to have missed zat, comrade, and since my only reasoning behind my vote vas to put pressure on him, I have no reason to keep my vote.Batt wrote: Doombunny 540- You are voting Zang to pressure him into giving a read, but you vote after it is announced zat Zang requested replacement. Zis doesn't seem logical to me.
Unvote, Vote: Batt
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Comrade CES is becoming more and more suspicious viz each post. He seems to be actively lurking, posting fine but viz little content in each of his posts. He's not doing any scumhunting and ze best cases he can come up viz are "lololol its gut gusy" vhich at ze very best is lazy tovn. Don't get me vrong, I have nozing viz people having gut reads, its just vhen zey cant do anyzing else vhen it becomes a problem. His ozer cases are very veak and he can't even explain zem properly. I still vant a response to my ISO post #45-
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Don't vorry, you are but zere are so many lurkers, I'm not going to call you out in particular, comrade.SC wrote:And vhy am I not a problem, comrade Doombunny9? I'm getting on myself for not posting much in zis game.
Have you read ze rest of my post? As I said before, gut reads are fine just as long as its not all you're doing (May I recommend doing some more scumhunting?)CES wrote: Zat's at the very worst. Seriously, gut is good. Have you never found yourself zinking that someone is scum or tovn vizout somezing concrete to point to, comrade?-
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I zink I stated my opinions on Pover earlier but I can't remember. Oh vell. I zink zat Pover is scummy and I do support his lynch and I vill change my vote to him if ve get close to deadline vizout a lynch (Let's say late tomorrow night) and he is close to lynch. Hovever, I zink zat zere are people MUCH more deserving of a lynch (i.e. Batt) and vill keep my vote on zem unless vhat vas stated above happens, comrade.Leo wrote: Leo expects all of these people, with the exceptions of powerrox, Zang, and Leo, to state whether they support lynching powerrox. Leo tries to remember back and recalls that CES, at least, at one point opposed the powerwagon. Leo pulls out a calculator and decides that there are three others - battousai, doombunny, and chronopie, who Leo is uncertain about.
Every player is a PR (Zis vas mentioned during signups).Leo wrote:so that the player would be giving away their status as a PR.
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Alright, a few things: 1. I ran out of letters the first time around so I just repeated at the beginning. If that wasn't right, that may be where I messed up
2. Its kindof complicated to describe which is why I've had to use so many letters
3. I felt lazy and just found an online encoder which is the most likely cause for the screwup. I'll do it by hand tomorrow when I have more time.-
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Here's my by hand mezod, comrade (I also don't vant to break ze post restriction zat I forgot about last time so you may have to change some of ze V's to upside dovn M's). I also vhittled it dovn a bit.
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Alright, zis vill be ze last post I'll be able to make before deadline so to avoid a NL I'llUnvote, Vote: Pover(Dunno hov close he is to lynch. I zink zis is L-1). I also don't knov vhat to do about ze code as if I did do somezing vrong in encoding it, I have no idea vhat it vas. Finally, I vouldn't mind folloving ze MC order Leo proposed. Zere vould be a fev zings I vould change but overall, it vorks out.-
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a) The person you could have chosen to kill may have been doc'dChrono wrote:1) As an SK, I would kill every chance possible. This was the first night of multiple kills. (See my Only SK game SSBF mafia (large Theme), in which I was an SK w/ day-kills.)
b) I recall Ghost being a roleblocker. Fill in the blanks.
WIFOMChrono wrote:2) If I were an SK, I would have picked a better target than CES.
Fair enough seeing as I know nothing about the flavor of your role. Although the big hammer thing makes me have second thoughts. I'll have to remember to research this further when I don't feel so lazy.Chrono wrote:3) "Mauling" does NOT fit my upick Flavour. Devastated maybe, but not Mauled. And not mercilessly.
Are you even reading the game?Chrono wrote:Note he doesn't ever give actual Scum reads, but Does declare some to be Neutral
I <3 statements without reasoning. Why do you think that Ant is scum?Shotty wrote:Hmmmmm.. ok so I read the whole game, and I feel I have a pretty strong scum read on Bunny and Ant, and I think CPie over there be the SK.-
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