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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:50 am

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I zink it vould be vorzvhile for me to send you a message zat vay, comrade.
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:56 am

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Leo looks at you to see whether you know how to do it already or need insturctions.
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:01 pm

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Leo wrote:Leo looks at you to see whether you know how to do it already or need insturctions.
I vould need instructions, Comrade.
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:02 pm

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Leo wrote: Leo expects all of these people, with the exceptions of powerrox, Zang, and Leo, to state whether they support lynching powerrox. Leo tries to remember back and recalls that CES, at least, at one point opposed the powerwagon. Leo pulls out a calculator and decides that there are three others - battousai, doombunny, and chronopie, who Leo is uncertain about.
I zink I stated my opinions on Pover earlier but I can't remember. Oh vell. I zink zat Pover is scummy and I do support his lynch and I vill change my vote to him if ve get close to deadline vizout a lynch (Let's say late tomorrow night) and he is close to lynch. Hovever, I zink zat zere are people MUCH more deserving of a lynch (i.e. Batt) and vill keep my vote on zem unless vhat vas stated above happens, comrade.
Leo wrote:so that the player would be giving away their status as a PR.
Every player is a PR (Zis vas mentioned during signups).

Anyvay, even zhough it's risky, Leo has been playing pro-town and his role seems like one a tovnie might have so I'd be fine vith zis plan (I vould need instructions hovever)
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:05 pm

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Leo wrote:Leo looks at you to see whether you know how to do it already or need insturctions.
You send me a list of random letters and I vrite a message. I zen add up the two messages pointwise (i.e. I add the nth letter of the one-time pad to the nth letter of my message) modulo 26 (vhere A=1, B=2, etcetera.) Right, comrade?
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:10 pm

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Leo hands the Moderator a note to pass on to CES.

Leo seems to think that CES understands.

Leo takes an example string:
awbxcydz
and adds the word "cop" to it by combining c(=3)+d(=4)=
g
(=7), o(=15)+w(=23)=
l
(=12=38-26), p(=16)+b(=2)=
r
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then posting the resulting word "glr"
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:13 pm

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Except the string is awbxcydz and not dwbxcydz, so it vould be dlr, comrade.
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:17 pm

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I zink I got it. If it doesn't use up your daily messages, send me one, Comrade Leo.
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:20 pm

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Doombunny9 wrote:Every player is a PR (Zis vas mentioned during signups).
Leo doubts that every player has information they would wish to pass on at this time.


Leo points back to the fact that Leo can use the note-passing ability only twice per day.

Leo figures that if Ghostlin dies and flips town PR, we'd all just assume that Ghostlin used their ability N1 in a way that resulted in info that clears Zodiark... Leo checks to see that Ghostlin still wants this given that Leo unvoted.
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:22 pm

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Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Except the string is awbxcydz and not dwbxcydz, so it vould be dlr, comrade.
Leo nods. Leo recalls starting to use the word "doctor" as an example, but changing their mind halfway through and doing a poor job of fixing the example.
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:24 pm

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Leo wrote:
Doombunny9 wrote:Every player is a PR (Zis vas mentioned during signups).
Leo doubts that every player has information they would wish to pass on at this time.


Leo points back to the fact that Leo can use the note-passing ability only twice per day.

Leo figures that if Ghostlin dies and flips town PR, we'd all just assume that Ghostlin used their ability N1 in a way that resulted in info that clears Zodiark... Leo checks to see that Ghostlin still wants this given that Leo unvoted.
It's fine, comrade. My flip vould tell you everyzing you needed to know.
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:38 pm

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Leo hands the Moderator a note to pass on to doombunny9.
Leo reminds CES and doombunny that scum may try to guess at short words if you leave spaces between words. Leo hints that spaces can be suggested by leaving the same letter from the pad in place (which looks the same as the uncommonly used letter "z".)
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:57 pm

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Leo wrote:Leo finds it unclear whether SC realizes that the linked post was not made by Leo.
It vas clear, comrade.
Leo wrote:Leo acknowledges in advance that some players, especially battousai, aren't going to like the above post. Leo doesn't appear to care, because Leo feels like the town could lynch scum today but Leo anticipates deadline forced-voting will cause a Powerrox lynch and Leo expects this to be a mislynch.
Help me make sense out of zis. You complain about ze people not voting Poverrox93, zen you say zat the PR lynch vill be a mislynch? Zat doesn't sound right...
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:41 pm

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Alright, I got ze message and here's my claim, comrade (I hope I'm doing zis right):

CRQHVLRDUNMGWDAPWJRSCWBEOALEYSYAQIUYPCDNIRNSRXNQYQKAXSUHNHEXWACBPRAYASRTJAWXGGPMSWOSELOMTUKBRGCKGGJDMKYCMMLTZYGEJFEBZQBXHSTOMSQQJOILQYUHGCYIIFBXXZBDJEPQMDXASTDQFCHGHFWNAANMLHWTTBVU
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:42 pm

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Alright, the last part got cut off so here's the same thing but in two lines:

CRQHVLRDUNMGWDAPWJRSCWBEOALEYSYAQIUYPCDNIRNSRXNQYQKAXSUHNHEXWACBPRAYASRTJAWXGGPMSWOSELOMTUKBRGCKGGJD
MKYCMMLTZYGEJFEBZQBXHSTOMSQQJOILQYUHGCYIIFBXXZBDJEPQMDXASTDQFCHGHFWNAANMLHWTTBVU
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:52 pm

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Get a bigger monitor, comrade :P
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:55 pm

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Doombunny9 wrote:Alright, the last part got cut off so here's the same thing but in two lines:

CRQHVLRDUNMGWDAPWJRSCWBEOALEYSYAQIUYPCDNIRNSRXNQYQKAXSUHNHEXWACBPRAYASRTJAWXGGPMSWOSELOMTUKBRGCKGGJD
MKYCMMLTZYGEJFEBZQBXHSTOMSQQJOILQYUHGCYIIFBXXZBDJEPQMDXASTDQFCHGHFWNAANMLHWTTBVU
Leo gets gibberish from this. Leo finds words without vowels, etc.

Leo invites you to confirm that the first few characters should add to
3 18 17 8 22 12 18 4 21 13 7 23 4
Leo reminds you that your message probably doesn't need to be extremely long. Leo hopes to get a good enough message from one short sentence.
Leo gives you an example to illustrate the type of message length and content Leo was hoping for:
sane cop innocent on leo
Leo uses a sample pad to demonstrate:
mrrtyxckpiydppwndnhavjqglmiwmqsdinenxvuq
Leo adds:
s+m=f
a+r=s
n+r=g
e+t=y
+y=y
c+x=a
o+c=r
p+k=a
+p=p
i+i=r
n+y=m
n+d=r
o+p=e
c+p=s
e+w=b
n+n=b
t+d=x
+n=n
o+h=w
n+a=o
+v=v
l+j=v
e+q=v
o+g=v

fsgyyaraprmresbbxnwovvvv
Leo hesitates to have doombunny change their message too much out of the fear that it will become breakable. Leo hopes that doombunny can just truncate the message at, say, 50-100 characters, and check their number/letter conversion and arithmetic.
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:02 pm

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StrangerCoug wrote:
Leo wrote:Leo finds it unclear whether SC realizes that the linked post was not made by Leo.
It vas clear, comrade.
Leo wrote:Leo acknowledges in advance that some players, especially battousai, aren't going to like the above post. Leo doesn't appear to care, because Leo feels like the town could lynch scum today but Leo anticipates deadline forced-voting will cause a Powerrox lynch and Leo expects this to be a mislynch.
Help me make sense out of zis. You complain about ze people not voting Poverrox93, zen you say zat the PR lynch vill be a mislynch? Zat doesn't sound right...
Leo doesn't recall complaining about people not voting powerrox. Leo recalls asking that the nonvoters give an indication of their willingness to join the wagon, and Leo recalls asking the powerrox voters to consider that they might not be able to get enough support for their desired lynch.
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:04 pm

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Leo finds results useful to doombunny and CES by putting "a 1 b 2 c 3" into a google search.
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:06 pm

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Alright, a few things: 1. I ran out of letters the first time around so I just repeated at the beginning. If that wasn't right, that may be where I messed up
2. Its kindof complicated to describe which is why I've had to use so many letters
3. I felt lazy and just found an online encoder which is the most likely cause for the screwup. I'll do it by hand tomorrow when I have more time.
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:30 pm

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I log on and see nothing but people trying to pass incrypted messages?

@mod, please modify the rules to outlaw this.


Also, vote for me if you must but at least allow me to claim.
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:33 am

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emkkkevwtfkxtnjrwhwylkiimedkiqylwrwjkyomqzlvjqpoxcasqsndqgbqmelaswepas
vxtehfcgnapgtzbpapringlzcxsza

is my message. I used Mathematica.
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:14 am

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Here's my by hand mezod, comrade (I also don't vant to break ze post restriction zat I forgot about last time so you may have to change some of ze V's to upside dovn M's). I also vhittled it dovn a bit.

NUMHIIJDYKRTVNCQXEVGZTOSPTRDZAYDVYLKYHVLVSJSELOMYTYLKZJUUZULESPYUMXOLEBCZZG
HMHTVVSQIGBMX

I hope zat makes more sense.
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:22 am

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@Zodiark
The Rulebook wrote:7. Small or invisible text as a secret communication is disallowed. Small text may be allowed if they are readable by the mod though.
That's all there is on encrypted messages so I would assume its all fine, unless its one of these loopholes which is dick-ish; we need to clarify methinks.

@Mod: Can we have a clarification on this, please? Is it legal or not?
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:27 am

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Letting Leo send the one-time pads is confirmation enough for me zat it is legal, comrade.
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