1116 - Literally Anything uPick

[Doombunny9]

And zen has ze balls to say I haven't formed an opinion zis game, vhen my opinions are being held back by him.

Playing ze blame game I see, comrade. Even vizout Zodiark anvering your questions, it shouldn't hinder your abilities to form cases on people ozer zan him.

Vote: Chrono

Since I forgot I unvoted until nov and since I found out he has multiple shots, zere's really no more reason for me to keep my vote off.

[Ghostlin]

Vat is L-2 on Chrono. I suggest comrades, even if Comrade Chrono is not lying, you make ze next votes when zey happen fairly quick to stop voting problems.

[Doombunny9]

Vat is L-2 on Chrono.*

*Unless he uses his ability in vich he could be anyvhere up to L-5, comrades.

I also agree vith vhat ghost said. If ve vant to lynch chrono today, ve should do it quickly to keep him from using his ability.

[Leo]

Leo indicates an apparently ironic desire to see Chrono use the ability again today.
Leo notes that part of Chrono's "my ability would be overpowered if I was scum" argument is the implied claim that the ability is unlimited. Leo waits to see this demonstrated. Leo also looks with some skepticism at the part where Chrono's ability is supposed to work during lylo. Leo imagines scum getting this ability with the limitation that it can't be used during lylo.

Leo also waits for a lot more details about how this ability works.

Leo continues watching Battousai.

[AurorusVox]

DRUNKPOSTING

&re that post just now by LEO Do we have enough people to lkycnh COMRADE chrono if he used his powar/ ? I dont want him to use it if it mnakes him unlynchabel today altho if we do the ni wouldnt mind seeing it so that we could SEE HOW exactly teh power rworkds.

CRHINO >>> POWERROXX >>> BATTUOSAI lynch candidates for me today

[Chronopie]

If you vant me to prove it's use again, pick a target for me. Seeing as you don't trust me to do so myself. comrade.

And it isn't unlimited, but it isn't one shot.

[Leo]

Leo looks at Chrono hoping for more details, such as the option for reversal, number of uses, and more.
Also, Leo smiles and tips their head to indicate a preference that Chrono selects their own target.

[Leo]

DRUNKPOSTING

&re that post just now by LEO Do we have enough people to lkycnh COMRADE chrono if he used his powar/ ? I dont want him to use it if it mnakes him unlynchabel today altho if we do the ni wouldnt mind seeing it so that we could SEE HOW exactly teh power rworkds.

CRHINO >>> POWERROXX >>> BATTUOSAI lynch candidates for me today

Leo looks skeptical at the idea that any mod would ever let it be impossible for a scum player to be lynched with 12 players alive, in a non-bastard game.

[Doombunny9]

If you vant me to prove it's use again, pick a target for me. Seeing as you don't trust me to do so myself. comrade.

Batt or pover vould be good choices, comrade.

In ozer nevs, you STILL are ignoring plenty of questions ansvered to you and I vant to knov vhy. From my PoV you are either:

a) Ignoring me for vho knows vhy-Zis is a terrible, terrible idea, especially if you're tovn
b) Ignoring me because you have no ansver to ze questions-Need I even explain?
OR
c) Don't even realize you've been asked a question- Vell, you should have realized be now. If you really need ze help I'll direct you to my iso posts 23 and 35

[Powerrox93]

Comrade Chrono I still vant an ansver to my question.

[Chronopie]

It cannot be reversed.

Ze number of bonus is related to ze number of living players.

Vith 8 alive, it vould take 7 to lynch me. In order for me to be lynched beyond a certain point, I'd need to self-vote.

But it can be used as a kingmaker, as in Lylo, I'd have to self-vote, in addition to both other living players voting me, and I could Hammer the target solo.

And it doesn't make me auto-confirmed tovn, just commenting the ability would be broken-imbalanced...

As for suspects, I have none at the moment, as I haven't really read up the pages of D2.

And on the defense against the points that Plum bought up? The attack itself was based on Flawed premises, reading more motivation (or ulterior motivations) that weren't infact present in the posts themselves.

--

And I'll have normal access back in the next couple days, at which point I will make a

full

readthrough.

[AurorusVox]

DRUNKPOSTING

&re that post just now by LEO Do we have enough people to lkycnh COMRADE chrono if he used his powar/ ? I dont want him to use it if it mnakes him unlynchabel today altho if we do the ni wouldnt mind seeing it so that we could SEE HOW exactly teh power rworkds.

CRHINO >>> POWERROXX >>> BATTUOSAI lynch candidates for me today

Leo looks skeptical at the idea that any mod would ever let it be impossible for a scum player to be lynched with 12 players alive, in a non-bastard game.

I meant, through the haze of drunkenness, if he used it, would there be enough people to

support

lynching him with the number of players left alive.

[AntB]

Antb 421- If he is a strong second scum suspect AND has ze ability to screv ze tovn as ze number of players decreases, vhy isn't zat enough to vote him, especially vhen zere seems to be plenty of support for ze lynch (he's at L-3)? Looking at your tvo cases (390), your cases are, in a nutshell- PR is overdefensive and posting fluff about zings zat are nov irrelvant and Chrono- for his hammering of Plum. For Chrono, you seemed to have forgotten ze reason vhy people vere starting to svitch over to him in ze first place (284). Do you not find 284 scummy? Vhat is your stance on active lurking, vhile you're ansvering questions?

I have no doubts he vill pull out his ability again if ze balance svings against him, vhen he does, I vill reconsider based on vhen and vho. I do not find 284 as scummy as some of you have done, but it does contain contradictory information.

Active lurking is

usually

just a BS reason to vote for someone. People find it incredibly easy to confuse "Actively unactive" and "Genuinely one site once or tvice a day."

[AntB]

Leo indicates an apparently ironic desire to see Chrono use ze ability again today.

Makes tvo of us.

DRUNKPOSTING

&re zat post just nov by LEO Do ve have enough people to lkycnh COMRADE chrono if he used his povar/ ? I dont vant him to use it if it mnakes him unlynchabel today alzo if ve do ze ni vouldnt mind seeing it so zat ve could SEE HOW exactly teh pover rvorkds.

CRHINO >>> POWERROXX >>> BATTUOSAI lynch candidates for me today

I have a hangover just reading zat...

@Chronopie
So assuming you knov ze full mechanic, hov vould your lynch zreshold be shifted

exactly

?

[Doombunny9]

After reading zrough chronos's explaination of his role, zere is no way in hell zat zis is a scum role (zird party maybe, but I don't vant to vote chrono because of zat until ve have enough reasoning to support zat). Zerefore, i vill

Unvote

I'll reread ze zread again later and choose vho I vant to vote zen, comrades.

[Battousai]

Getting closer to deadline, so I'm going to post my zoughts nov and go off of the ansvers and lack of ansvers.

Scummy:
Zodiark- Refusal to ansver questions, even vhen it meant someone vould not be able to make an opinion on zem
AntB- Active lurking* and some of his ansvers. He vill vote Chrono vhen Chrono makes it more difficult to lynch him. Eizer zis is scum not wanting to vote a tovnie or scum not vanting to vote his partner
CES- Active lurking. He hasn't posted in a while, and vhen he does, it is mostly fluff. He hasn't had problems getting on the site lately, so I see zis as scum laying lov vhen no attention is being paid to him.
Chrono- "I'm not confirmed tovn, but if I was scum, ze game would be broken..." His unvote of Plum was suspicious (I see it as scum not vanting to be on tovn lynch), I find his hammer null, though.

unvote
Vote: Chrono

*Hasn't posted like his normal tovn. He has an average amount of posts vhen he's tovn. Here is 2 tovn and 1 scum (nonnevbie) game:

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 52&start=0 scum; 48 posts; d5 lynched; 9.6
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 36&start=0 town; 25 posts; d2 lynched; 12.5
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 87&start=0 town; 112 posts; d3 lynched; 37.3

Comrade.

[VasudeVa]

Vote Count 2.3.

Players still alive and voting!

AurorousVox [L-7]
PowerRox93 [L-5] - Zodiark13, AntB
Zodiark13 [L-7] -

Chronopie [L-2] - Ghostlin, AurorusVox, StrangerCoug, Zodiark13, Battousai

AntB [L-6] - Leo
Ghostlin [L-7] -
Zang [L-7] -
Battousai [L-7] -
StrangerCoug [L-7] -
Cogito Ergo Sum [L-7] -
Doombunny9 [L-7] -
Leo [L-7]-

Not Voting: PowerRox93, Battousai, Cogito Ergo Sum, Zang, Chronopie

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to Lynch

D2's Deadline is at March 6, 2011. The countdown can be viewed here

CES has been prodded. Zang's V/LA is over. If Zang does not post soon, he'll be replaced.

[StrangerCoug]

I vant comrade Chronopie to ansver AntB's question before I suggest a target for ze former.

[AurorusVox]

Vote: Chrono

Since I forgot I unvoted until nov and since I found out he has multiple shots, zere's really no more reason for me to keep my vote off.

After reading zrough chronos's explaination of his role, zere is no way in hell zat zis is a scum role (zird party maybe, but I don't vant to vote chrono because of zat until ve have enough reasoning to support zat). Zerefore, i vill

Unvote

Vait. Had you not already read zrough Chrono's explanation ven you voted him ze first time, comrade?

[Ghostlin]

Mod: DB revoted Chrono, Comrade.

[AurorusVox]

^then he unvoted him before the vote count.

[Ghostlin]

Oh. He did. My bad. *Sighs*

[Ghostlin]

EBVOP: Comrade

[Zodiark13]

@comrade mod, last I checked, I'm not a double voter.

Anyone not voting, explain vhy not. Zis close to the deadline, not having a vote vizout a good reason is hurting town.

[Chronopie]

For proof zat my role can be used more than once:

JUSTICE TO ZODIARK

+3 to my zreshold (L-5)
-3 to his (L-4)