1116 - Literally Anything uPick

VasudeVa · Post Post #800 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:41 pm

Vote Count 3.4.

Players still alive and voting!

AurorousVox [L-5] -
Zodiark13 [L-5]-
Chronopie [L-5] -
AntB [L-3] - Zodiark, drmyshottyiszik

drmyshottyizsik [LYNCH...?] - StrangerCoug, AntB, AurorusVox, Leo, ChronoPie

StrangerCoug [L-5] -
Doombunny9 [L-5] -
Leo [L-5]-

Not Voting: Doombunny9

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to Lynch

D3's Deadline is at March 25, 2011. The countdown can be viewed here

!!! Something didn't happen ???

Everyone rallies to lynch drmyshottyizsik. Shotty, blindfolded and his hands tied, is atop the stand with no expression on his face. As Chronopie cuts the rope, he falls and a sickening snap is heard.

There is dead silence. Everyone waits.

drmyshottyizsik has been hanging there for two hours, motionless. He suddenly coughs some blood. And he breathes again.

Unsatisfied with the lack of dead people, the day continues.

drmyshottyizsik is unlynchable for this day phase.

Chronopie · Post Post #801 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:10 pm

So, is this part of your Role Shotty?

AntB · Post Post #802 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:13 am

He did claim unlynchable...

UNVOTE: DrShotty

AurorusVox · Post Post #803 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:40 am

Goddamnit.

The best lead we have to go on is

Vote: AntB

Leo: remind me why Chrono is confirmed town? You've said this a few times and I've never really understood...

Leo · Post Post #804 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:54 am

AurorusVox wrote:Leo: remind me why Chrono is confirmed town? You've said this a few times and I've never really understood...

Leo points out that the setup was reviewed.

...

Leo draws a picture of (either Ghostlin or Zodiark) and AntB being dead by day 2 and lets you decide on your own whether a mod or reviewers would permit there to be a mafioso who was unlynchable and un-NKable that early.
Leo starts to see drm similarly, now that the ability claim is confirmed.

StrangerCoug · Post Post #805 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:11 am

*spews profanities*

Time to go for the other suspect.

UNVOTE: drmyshottyizsik
VOTE: AntB

Doombunny9 · Post Post #806 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:52 am

Well, I'm willing to lump shotty with Chrono and say he's town enough to avoid a lynch for now.

The latest votes on Ant formed way too quickly for my liking, especially since neither AV or SC haven't rally talked about Ant much recently. SC in particular just seems to be posting content-less posts and doesn't seem to be contributing much. Although I'd like to hear from Zodiark before I make up my mind.

StrangerCoug · Post Post #807 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:25 pm

I had been spending a lot of my energy today on drmyshottyizsik trying to get him lynched and am not getting it.

As for AntB, I don't like his and DMSIS's interactions with each other. DMSIS refused to post a case on AntB when asked, while AntB's #31 in ISO appears to be both an attempt to make sense of DMSIS's claim and an attack of it. Why rationalize something someone else did that you think is scummy? In addition, I don't have good reason to suspect Zodiark13, nor do I think there are two redirection roles in the game.

Leo · Post Post #808 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:55 pm

Leo

votes AurorosVox

for now.
Leo frowns at the idea of a JOAT with only three abilities, at the plainness of those abilities, and at the voting of a few players here including Aurorus.

Doombunny9 · Post Post #809 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:36 pm

SC wrote:I don't have good reason to suspect Zodiark13

Nice thinking there considering he's clear -_-

SC wrote:Why rationalize something someone else did that you think is scummy?

Why wouldn't you? Saying "I'm not going to try to make sense out of anything because you're OBVIOUSLY lying"=Tunneling. That's bad. Trying to make reason out of something despite whether or not you think is a lie is good, it gives town more information and allows people to more easily tell if someone's lying or telling the truth.

Finally, you do realize that Ant is either town or SK don't you? He can't be aligned with shotty unless they're both town.

StrangerCoug · Post Post #810 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:40 pm

What the hell ever. They're both scum, they both need to go.

Doombunny9 · Post Post #811 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:45 pm

Actually, I'm going to explain to everyone since the only people who really seem to get it are me, Leo, and shotty (I had to explain it to him but since none of you bothered to read it I have to do it again):

There were three kills last night. Ghost made one of them (Batt), Ant made the second (Ghost), and the scumteam made the third (CES). Therefore, Ant cannot belong to the scumteam because if he was, the scumteam either has two kills a night (which is unlikely) or Ghost wouldn't have died last night. We also know that if there is a SK it HAS to be Ant since if someone else was the SK we would have 4 kills last night. Therefore, we either have no SK or ant is the SK.

In short, I want everyone to know that if they are voting Ant or are planning on voting him (Chrono, this doesn't mean to quick-hammer early again XD) that you are not voting Ant because you think he's scum, you're voting him because you think he's the SK.

Doombunny9 · Post Post #812 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:46 pm

Oh and SC tunnel FTW?

StrangerCoug · Post Post #813 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:54 pm

Doombunny9 wrote:Actually, I'm going to explain to everyone since the only people who really seem to get it are me, Leo, and shotty (I had to explain it to him but since none of you bothered to read it I have to do it again):

There were three kills last night. Ghost made one of them (Batt), Ant made the second (Ghost), and the scumteam made the third (CES). Therefore, Ant cannot belong to the scumteam because if he was, the scumteam either has two kills a night (which is unlikely) or Ghost wouldn't have died last night. We also know that if there is a SK it HAS to be Ant since if someone else was the SK we would have 4 kills last night. Therefore, we either have no SK or ant is the SK.

In short, I want everyone to know that if they are voting Ant or are planning on voting him (Chrono, this doesn't mean to quick-hammer early again XD) that you are not voting Ant because you think he's scum, you're voting him because you think he's the SK.

Thanks for the wake-up call.

Doombunny9 wrote:Oh and SC tunnel FTW?

There's nothing wrong with being convinced by something

AurorusVox · Post Post #814 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:12 pm

/drunkpost

My AntB vote is due to Zodiark pointing out the way that AntB can't really have been redirected as he said unless we had a specific one person redirector.

If thats the case
Why did they target AntB?

Why not target someone who had given an indication of having a power directly to Leo (Ghostlin or Doom)

Why target AntB for your SINGLE shot? That seems too much to take on.

RE: My power. There's nothing saying all players' powers ahve to be ewual, leo. I picked VasudeVa, and VasudeVa is a mafia player. I assume that's why I got regular mafia roles. Because VV is a regular mafia player.

Doombunny9 · Post Post #815 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:01 pm

AV wrote:Why not target someone who had given an indication of having a power directly to Leo (Ghostlin or Doom)

Erm... Everyone has a power. This was mentioned during sign-ups and no one mentioned whether or not they had a night action other than Leo who already claimed.

AV wrote:Why target AntB for your SINGLE shot? That seems too much to take on.

AV wrote:Why did they target AntB?

I don't think I really understand what you mean by "too much to take on". As for why they chose Ant, why wouldn't they choose Ant? From what scum knew at the time, he was as good of a target as anybody.

@SC- Are there any other reasons you've failed to mention about Ant since your whole case on him was that he was shotty's scumbuddy which as you now know, is impossible

Vote: SC

For reasons already stated.

drmyshottyizsik · Post Post #816 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:53 pm

gg I was the sk

Leo · Post Post #817 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:08 pm

AurorusVox wrote:My AntB vote is due to Zodiark pointing out the way that AntB can't really have been redirected as he said unless we had a specific one person redirector.

If thats the case

Why did they target AntB?

Why not target someone who had given an indication of having a power directly to Leo (Ghostlin or Doom)

Why target AntB for your SINGLE shot? That seems too much to take on.

Leo sits and recalls thinking of redirectors as normally being one-way busdrivers... Leo finds this interpretation odd.

AurorusVox wrote:Why target AntB for your SINGLE shot? That seems too much to take on.

Leo gives AurorosVox a funny look for

apparently knowing that the redirector is one-shot

.

drmyshottyizsik wrote:gg I was the sk

Leo puts their head in their hands. Leo appears glad to be already speechless.

Leo · Post Post #818 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:14 pm

Leo wrote:
drmyshottyizsik wrote:gg I was the sk
Leo puts their head in their hands. Leo appears glad to be already speechless.

Leo pauses to consider the implications of this.
Leo hopes that DRM will share what his NK was on night 2, though Leo doesn't appear 100% trusting of the response.

AurorusVox · Post Post #819 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:26 pm

Doombunny9 wrote:Erm... Everyone has a power. This was mentioned during sign-ups and no one mentioned whether or not they had a night action other than Leo who already claimed.

You indicated you had info to give to Leo, suggesting a night-based information getting power.

Doombunny9 wrote:I don't think I really understand what you mean by "too much to take on". As for why they chose Ant, why wouldn't they choose Ant? From what scum knew at the time, he was as good of a target as anybody.

See above. Too much to take on, I mean, it doesn't make sense. Seems awful lucky.

AurorusVox · Post Post #820 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:39 pm

EBWOP I forgot to paste these

drmyshottyizsik wrote:gg I was the sk

/facepalm

Leo wrote:Leo sits and recalls thinking of redirectors as normally being one-way busdrivers... Leo finds this interpretation odd.

What about the interpretation was odd? The "SINGLE shot" bit?

AurorusVox wrote:Why target AntB for your SINGLE shot? That seems too much to take on.

Leo gives AurorosVox a funny look for

apparently knowing that the redirector is one-shot

.[/quote]
=_=" By SINGLE shot I mean, your single switch that night. I.e. if you are one-way (that would have been a better term, eh), I don't know why AntB made a reasonable target. If you're swapping two, then I can see swapping a pro-town and a considered-less-town player.

Also, further to you voting me because my ability is boring: we've had a regular busdriver (standard role), a role-cop (pretty standard) and a jailkeeper (standard), with flips on both sides of town and scum. So I don't really get your point, Leo.

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I'm trying to remember here, but did Shotty implicate that he had to be shot twice at night in order to die?

If so, in an ideal world, could we have AntB use his vig shot (which also proves he's telling the truth) and hope that scum don't redirect his shot away, and then further hope that scum shoot Shotty. That way we guarantee the SK is gone. I haven't had a chance to look at numbers but I'm guessing its getting to the point where the scum need to get rid of the SK as much as everyone else...

AntB · Post Post #821 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:08 am

How I see it is that the setup contains a town aligned bus-driver and a scum aligned redirector... AV's saying the redirect is one shot is very suspect. Why not say for that night instead of one-shot?
As for why target me, scum didn't know who to target for their optimal play. I assume now I've been marked as the SK and/or vigilante based on absorbing Ghostlin they will now keep redirecting me (hopefully) and leave other town roles to do their thing.

VOTE: StrangerCoug Way to clear an already cleared player and attempt to string up 2 others...

drmyshottyizsik · Post Post #822 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:51 am

I was Kidding.

unvote vote antB

VasudeVa · Post Post #823 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:17 am

Vote Count 3.5.

Players still alive and voting!

AurorousVox [L-4] -
Zodiark13 [L-4]-
Chronopie [L-4] -
AntB [L-4] -
StrangerCoug [L-4] -
Doombunny9 [L-4] -
Leo [L-4]-

Not Voting: Everyone

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to Lynch

D3's Deadline is at March 27, 2011. The countdown can be viewed here

!!! Embarrasing ModFail Disaster Control !!!

Meanwhile...somewhere else.. A guy is sitting infront of his computer, doing internet stuff. Oblivious to what will happen. When suddenly, an angry ninja appears!

"Yo dude, yo betta check yo game homie. Sumthin wrong widdit.". The ninja smacks the guy on the head and he disappears as quickly as he came in.

"WTF." Angry ninja warnings should never be ignored. He checks his game. Checks his notes. He has also received a PM from the involved party. And then the realization. "OH MY GOD.". He smacks himself on the head for a second time and proceeds with damage control.

Soo, yeah. This is embarassing. Something should have happened. But it didn't. However it's easily fixed and shouldn't matter too much. The vote count has been reset, no votes above this is counted. Sorry bout that, I'm being a bit too absentminded as of late. I am also extending the deadline by 2 days to count for the time.

For the record, this

should

have included in post #800.

drmyshottyizsik "Doom Demon" --> Demonic Serial Killer has bled out!!

For some reason... the day continues.

Leo · Post Post #824 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:38 am

Leo shakes their head on the Redirector issue. Leo starts to think it might be irrelevant now, but Leo tries to draw a diagram of night actions to explain:

Leo draws player A, vig, trying to kill player C. Leo draws player B, redirector, who wants to help player C. Leo draws player C using their ability on player C and player D -- redirecting all actions that target player C onto player D. Leo does not draw player B targeting player A at all.

Leo sets aside the paper, no longer expecting to find any buddies for DRM, and starts rethinking the kills and looking around for a new theory...

AurorusVox wrote:Also, further to you voting me because my ability is boring: we've had a regular busdriver (standard role), a role-cop (pretty standard) and a jailkeeper (standard), with flips on both sides of town and scum. So I don't really get your point, Leo.

Leo points back to Plum's claim that she could ask a yes/no question, not that she was a standard rolecop. Leo points out that Battousai was a

scum

jailkeeper, and Leo doesn't recall ever seeing one of those before. Leo points out the Normal Game wiki page that says that busdrivers are non-normal roles.
Leo doesn't see any claims or flips (assuming DRM was telling half-truths arount his role) that look as ordinary as yours.