Mini 1089: 90s Band Mafia. Game OVER!

[RobCapone]

/confirm

[RobCapone]

yeah here is to a good game

[RobCapone]

lol hanson isn't a band

[RobCapone]

hey now you;re a rock star

[RobCapone]

vote:Mariyata

Something tells me she is going to fail epically

[RobCapone]

vote:

Mariyata

Mariyta

Something tells me she is going to fail epically

I fixed it for you.

Thanks

[RobCapone]

Nicodemus: What? I haven't even said anything! I logged on today and it was like, "Nico wants you dead." Jerk. I can't believe you would do that to me right out of the gate.

On a different note, because of how Mariyta slammed RobCapone,

vote: RobCapone

When does a spelling correction qualify as a slam?

[RobCapone]

The posts pointed out by Lord C are laughable

Clearly a 90s band joke and his RVS vote

Fos lord

Was gonna vote but when I hit submit I saw someone else did

Need to see the vote count

[RobCapone]

vote lord C

Yeah but town would never hammer without allowing a person to claim either

[RobCapone]

Okay, Nico wagon can end now. Let's begin a new one.
.

wait, there was a nico wagon? could have sworn there was a Lord Cable wagon

[RobCapone]

I do find it odd that despite Lord C making a case on Nico, nico goes after G, now nico point does make sense because G's reaction was a bit much for an rvs vote, the problem I have is I can't tell if G's reaction was serious or not

It's not enough to remove my vote cause Lord's case was totally grasping for straws

[RobCapone]

Well glad you like to twist words cause I never said "I won't move my vote right now" straw doesn't do you any justice ma'am

I said "it's not enough to remove my vote" cause while those other 2 ping my scumbar, my scumbar is telling me I'm about to sink a fucking destroyer with Lord

[RobCapone]

I'll agree on the part about sapo, seeming a tad contradictive considering not much happened between those 2 comments

Also, please don't tell me how or how not to type

Thx

[RobCapone]

Cable, do you have any evidence that I'm scum past the fact that I'm suspecting you?

Also, you realize that you can think that a wagon is okay, but still think the path getting to such a wagon in it's current state is a bit weird? That's not a contradiction at all.

Cable lynch, please. OMGUS, calling RVS behavior legit scum tells, bad points that don't make any sense and overdefensiveness.

I actually disagree, I think sapo's comments are contradictory and it also seems like he is trying to defend LC

Makes assumptions about the first votes being serious, when chess's vote was an rvs vote to begin with
Lumps the last 3 and says those may not be as serious, but he is just assuming this is true
Also tries to pin him as an idiot to excuse his stupid posts about Nic

I don't like it

[RobCapone]

Fair enough, just pointing out his making assumptions is odd

[RobCapone]

Wow just checking in before class but saw something that made me lol

Lord did you really say posting illegible is a scum tell?

[RobCapone]

Ok but not pro town means anti town aka scum

[RobCapone]

And me typing bad on my phone doesn't "not" help town

Just annoys you a little

[RobCapone]

VI?

[RobCapone]

I must protest against the half-page wall posts. I'm reading this crap on a netbook right now and you two are killing me.

I'm reading this in class on my iPhone, ur better off than me

[RobCapone]

I sort of agree with you sapo that the case grew fast so I looked at the 2 people who hopped off the wagon

Mariyta and WOC and both of them don't really make much sense

Vote Mariyta

1. because her vote on the wagon was really suspicious, even pointing out that she was checking the vote count, granted I also said I wanted to check the vote count but I was actually trying to vote and actually it submit and was stopped by her vote and that comment had me worried.

2. she hops off the wagon and goes after an inactive?

3. she tries to twist my words to mean something completely different and when I call her on it, she ignores me.

[RobCapone]

oh I guess I did not vote properly

Vote: Mariyta

[RobCapone]

oh boy, sorry about the unexpected absence, I will try and catch up soon

[RobCapone]

ok skimming through, I don't get how Lord isn't lynched yet.

oh and I think I found his alt - http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/memberli ... le&u=13219

[RobCapone]

Mod, heads up my activity on the weekend sometimes go down, I will try and log on to keep the flow of the game moving on but if my activity decreases, this is why

[RobCapone]

sadly you too are mistaken

[RobCapone]

and damn I forgot I did unvote you, I can rectify that

unvote, Vote: Lord C

[RobCapone]

ok skimming through, I don't get how Lord isn't lynched yet.

oh and I think I found his alt - http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/memberli ... le&u=13219

Says the guy who isn't voting me.
Also, I am taking that as a personal insult. HOMJ, you're not much better than he is.

Your play this game has been insulting to town, you are either scum or you are playing scummy and not helping town.

[RobCapone]

I'm scumhunting. What more is a townsperson supposed to do?
Also it's funny that you posted that well after your earlier posts... without me posting in between. Why didn't you just say that in your first post?

show me evidence of you scum hunting, and yes I exclude your BS attempt at scum hunting nico early on and I exclude any case that you make where "your vibes" tell you he is scum.

the nico case is irelevant and completly retarded
the use of "vibes" is not proper scum hunting technique in anybody's book.

[RobCapone]

going back re-reading my top 3 suspects and WOC, definitly needs to post more, his lack of activity is a concern for me, Sapo has done many things that I am suspicious of, and Lord C has done nothing to improve his play and still hasn't posted a well thought out case on anyone. I agree with the votes on Sapo as well as the votes on Lord C, however it is the people that are voting Sapo that concern me, 2 of my top 3 scum suspects are voting for the other one definitely strikes me as odd.

The people voting for Lord C, and even the people not voting for him what do you guys think of Sapo's play this game and the way he sort of defended Lord C earlier?

we need to get this game going again

[RobCapone]

and if Malthus flips scum it looks like you were trying to save malthus from a lynch cause it is fairly obvious you are trying to protect him

[RobCapone]

OH GOD THE HORROR OF TRYING TO KEEP SOMEONE YOU DOUBT IS SCUM FROM GETTING LYNCHED. THE HORROR.

wow who is overreacting a little

all I am saying that is if malthus flips scum, your defense is going to look suspicious, especially cause the only reason you are defending him is because you say he is an easy target. I personally never heard of this guy so I don't know if your statement is true or not.

and this other thing you said "back off your next post" First I have never heard of such a thing and second it isn't anything like that. It is just a common sense post that you are defending somebody and that person flips scum, it is going to be something we can use to find his partners.

but nice mis-rep of my post, that is awfully scummy of you.

[RobCapone]

ok and now mariyta, maybe you need to spell it out cause I just looked oer malthusis's posts and nothing about them stand out to me as being scummy, he is making more sense than Lord C is so lynching him instead of Lord C is not the right move.

[RobCapone]

oh noez you think I am scummy, let me go cry in a corner cause my feelings are hurt

[RobCapone]

plus we have to worry about whether it was a counterwagon to save a scum, etc.

but I was not the one who made this comment, you were.

so I was just pointing out that if you are going to throw it out there, the same could be said about what you were doing.

besides I wanted to see if you were paying attention

[RobCapone]

Wee let's go

unvote Vote: robcapone

No brakes

FYI when I flip town notice who is protecting scum lord C

[RobCapone]

Cause if you are going to not lynch scum, town fails anyway so why would I want to play in a game where town is going to ignore an obvious scum lynch cause of a reason that makes NO sense at all

Chess, let's not lynch him cause he gets targeted early in other games

Me, let's not lynch him cause his posts this game aren't scummy

You can't honestly see who is defending and who is postig logical reason not to vote?

[RobCapone]

And I am not a VI

[RobCapone]

My vote wasn't going to stay on me you silly people and self voting doesn't mean shit

The point I'm trying to make is I an being accused of defending mal because I don't find his play this game scummy, yet chess doesn't want to lynch him out of pity

unvote, vote: Lord C

He is scum, it's obvious the way WOC and Mariyta hopped of his wagon and refuses to push his lynch

[RobCapone]

I think you're writing him off too easily. He's hardly been pressured and he's already cracked. I don't think that's frustrated townie.

I haven't cracked my dear, just having a little mislynch fun

[RobCapone]

Wow... I don't even know what to make of that 180.

there is no 180 my dear, I was voting Lord C before and I am voting him again

I already called you out for jumping off Lord C's wagon, remember I voted for you?

yeah so I am sticking with my original views but nice try.

[RobCapone]

My vote wasn't going to stay on me you silly people and self voting doesn't mean shit

The point I'm trying to make is I an being accused of defending mal because I don't find his play this game scummy, yet chess doesn't want to lynch him out of pity

unvote, vote: Lord C

He is scum, it's obvious the way WOC and Mariyta hopped of his wagon and refuses to push his lynch

..... I don't know whether to applaud you for the epic plot twist, or complain because of the mind screwage.

quite frankly I don't even care what anyone thinks of my antics, I just wanted to make sure people noticed that chess is trying to manipulate the game and his defense of you is far scummier than my defense of you, which technically mine wasn't a defense it was me posting my read on your posts.

maybe if chess would take the time to actually comment on your posts instead of "oh he is targeted in other games so let's not vote for him now" I would feel much better.

it doesn't help that he says one of the people who did a scummy move in this game by hopping off Lord C to vote for an inactive is his biggest town read.

let mod handle inactives, hopping off the most obvious scum read on day 1 to do so is scummy in itself

[RobCapone]

I'm not talking about the vote, but I love the condescending attitude...

[RobCapone]

@ chess, you said your strongest town read is mariyta, and she hopped off scum wagon to vote for an inactive

also chess this is the comment you made

The problem I have with switching to Malthusis is I know from other experience that he is an easy target. Is it because he's always scummy? I don't know

this defending based on his meta and not for his play in the game today

now this comment here is interesting

- I don't want to lynch Mal because I don't believe he is scum, as I have stated. There is no pity there, merely Not wanting a misslynch.

now I may be stupid here but how can you know he will be a mislynch if you are not scum?

there is NO WAY, if you are town to know if his lynch would be a mislynch or not.

[RobCapone]

not intentionally misconstruing anything, those were the words you typed.

mary hopping off Lord C to vote an inactive isn't pro-town especially since most of everyone playing this game is convinced he is scum and his play is only supporting it, her hopping off looks more like distancing to me, which is NOT PROTOWN

[RobCapone]

There is no pity there, merely Not wanting a misslynch.

how do you know his lynch is a mislynch?

If you are town you have no idea if he is town or not so you don't know if his lynch is a mislynch or not

if you are scum, you know he is not in your QT and you know that his lynch is a mislynch

it is a slip on your part, a small one but it's a slip buddy

[RobCapone]

ok and now mariyta, maybe you need to spell it out cause I just looked oer malthusis's posts and nothing about them stand out to me as being scummy, he is making more sense than Lord C is so lynching him instead of Lord C is not the right move.

...earlier...

and if Malthus flips scum it looks like you were trying to save malthus from a lynch cause it is fairly obvious you are trying to protect him

Let's play... SPOT THE CONTRADICTION!!!!!
*theme music starts playing*

besides I wanted to see if you were paying attention

Scumalicious.

QFT. This is Rob telling a blatant lie to cover up actions he cannot explain.

Wee let's go

unvote Vote: robcapone

No brakes

FYI when I flip town notice who is protecting scum lord C

*headdesk*

unvote, vote: Lord C

He is scum, it's obvious the way WOC and Mariyta hopped of his wagon and refuses to push his lynch

So you're calling out me/WOMC/Mariyta as a scumteam and then voting me for their actions? I know you were voting me before but this seems like you're attacking me for things that others did and not me. Considering you don't KNOW any of our alignments unless you're scum yourself, that's a huge logical jump to make and quite a stretch to be voting on. The way you write this post makes that look like your only reason for voting, as well.

chess is super Mr. Town Man as well. Cool.

- I don't want to lynch Mal because I don't believe he is scum, as I have stated. There is no pity there, merely Not wanting a misslynch.

now I may be stupid here but how can you know he will be a mislynch if you are not scum?

Humans are imperfect and make mistakes. Wording fail is common in mafia games - I don't think it's a valid scumtell. Freudian slips are pretty fun though. I don't think this is a slip though.

Let's pack away some people into groups:

AWESOMETOWN PACKAGE:
Palmer
malthusis
chesskid

SCUMMY MCSCUMPANTS:
saporo
RobCapone

LEANING SCUM BUT UNCERTAIN:
Mariyta
DemonHybrid

And this is just from page 9.

And so I don't forget to post it like I did this time:

V/LA on weekends.

1, no it isn't spot the contradiction because I did not say that he is scum, I just said if he happens to flip scum, but i don't think he will right now based on his posts seem genuine enough to me, he seems more town than you do.

2. that was a joke, hence the smiley. I already explained my view on how my post defending him was different than chess's and if I am accused of defending him if he flips scum, so be it. I will deal with that when I get to that point but since I don't know what the fuck his allignment is, this is a moot point

3. yeah I play epicmafia way to much and I realize this isn't mafiascum

4. actually I think only one of those two are scum, right now I am leaning towards mary and way to try and buddy up to chess, every tie you call someone pro-town to me I see that as an attempt to buddy up to them and right now I think you need all the buddies you can get so as long as nobody else thinks it is suspicious, have at it, hope it works out for you.

5. fair enough about the comment about the mislynch, I will just write it off as a slip and not look that much into it.

as for your list, the part of me is dead wrong. personally I see chess, mary, and you as scum team

but today has been a

Long Day

for me, and I can't believe how many people are getting

Bent

out of shape or why this game makes people so

Angry

well I got to go to bed, it's almost

3 AM

[RobCapone]

I sort of agree with you sapo that the case grew fast so I looked at the 2 people who hopped off the wagon

Mariyta and WOC and both of them don't really make much sense

Vote Mariyta

1. because her vote on the wagon was really suspicious, even pointing out that she was checking the vote count, granted I also said I wanted to check the vote count but I was actually trying to vote and actually it submit and was stopped by her vote and that comment had me worried.

2. she hops off the wagon and goes after an inactive?

3. she tries to twist my words to mean something completely different and when I call her on it, she ignores me.

Provide examples of #3 or gtfo.

before I forget, I forgot to do this

It's not enough to remove my vote cause Lord's case was totally grasping for straws

And the "I won't move my vote right now" comment was completely unnecessary. It's almost like you're trying to set it up for a vote hop later on.

not enough to remove my votes =/= I won't move my vote right now

not enough means there is not enough information to do so

I won't is an absolute refusal to

and where does the "It's almost like you're trying to set it up for a vote hop later on" come from, because that was not implied at my post at all

so it was a twisting of my words, I believe you guys call it straw man, maybe it isn't a pure example of straw man but it was a purposeful twisting of my words to make me look scummier, so yeah straw man works.

kthxbai now

mary is scum and you are misguided townie or buddies, can't quite tell which.

[RobCapone]

I don't think he looks better in his last post

[RobCapone]

Womc, the only thing you really said about mal, is if sapo flips scum, he gains scum points

You later say your scum reads are still sapo and mal

Later you say you are tired if repeating yourself

You haven't made a case on mal

You assume he is scum if sapo is scum, that's your entire case

Sorry that's not good enough, seems you are purposefully laying low but slipping in accusations without any real reason

You want them lynched? You gotta make a case against them big boy

I agree sapo is scummy but the wagon looses credibility cause you are on it with no case and Lord C is on it.

[RobCapone]

Qft- quoted for truth

Kthxbai - ok thanks bye

[RobCapone]

Well color me blind cause I can't see what you ate talking about, can you point out your reason for me?

[RobCapone]

Thanks womc

[RobCapone]

palmer, here is a game where he was mafia - http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 50&t=13232

[RobCapone]

technically I only use the tongue smiley once, the 2nd one doesn't count because it was used to point out, that was how you could tell that post was not serious.

secondly, there is nothing wrong with smileys of any kind, I think they add a little color into these blank pages of text

not sure what you mean by my flip having to do with LC

and if you are referring to what I think you are, my goal wasn't to be subtle

[RobCapone]

Wee let's go

unvote Vote: robcapone

No brakes

FYI when I flip town notice who is protecting scum lord C

This. I still haven't figured out why you flipping town has anything to do with LC being scum.

that should have been mal, chess was calling me out for for doing the same thing I called him out on, which was defending mal

sometimes when I post without thnking, shit doesn't make sense even to me, I blame my ADD on that one.

[RobCapone]

I will say reading back it does look like you and chess are awfully buddy with each other, but I won't look that much into it right now, maybe later if you are the

last beautiful girl

.

[RobCapone]

it's fun and I don't care if you believe me

[RobCapone]

it's fun and I don't care if you believe me

[RobCapone]

Who made you leader?

[RobCapone]

^ was he going to just ignore them?

[RobCapone]

Which findings are you referring to?

I'd love to hear your reasonings btw, I need a good laugh

[RobCapone]

Well color me blind cause I can't see what you ate talking about, can you point out your reason for me?

Mal only chose to address LC wagon and what I said about sapo, in his first legitimate post after ~7 pages (IIRC), which means he paid special attention to stuff pertaining to sapo which is indicative of how scumbuddies see each other.

12

This is crap logic
I went back and read his posts, he comments in Lord C for his scummy play but everyone was doing that, he doesn't even mention Sapo's name but he does say you trying to analyze votes without a flip is not a good idea, which is what I agree with

Right now you or mari are one of the people I suspected, I was thinking Palmer was town until he comes out of no where and sheeps chess/mari (who sheeped chess btw)

So you want to lynch me, go ahead but I hope town notices who's deflecting from Lord's wagon

He is obscum and the one who needs to be lynched.

Womc refusal to re-vote lord is suspicious also

[RobCapone]

You know what, I'm gonna change it up

unvote: Lord Cable
Vote: Gaoth

He says 2 different times that he likes the Lord Cable wagon because DH's arguments convinced him, he doesn't make his own case, just sheeps DH

Second his activity is just enough to stay on the radar, I know cause I forgot he was playing til right now

Third, he comes back and comments that the wagon has shifted from DH and LC to chess and Mal but his gut says mal

Again no case (granted he doesn't change his vote) and chooses mal over chess because (my assumption) chess is the more pro-town person of the group

I still think lord C is scum but I realize on this site that sometimes the most obvious scummy player is just a VI, and like I said he is playing similar to furclow, a known VI

As mentioned before, vig can take him out

I just feel gaoth's laying low and sheeping is awfully suspicious to me

[RobCapone]

*off the radar

Fucking iPhone and my big thumbs

[RobCapone]

But what if it's a rouse and he is protecting him?

Also why did you follow chess and vote me? Don't you have your own opinions or thoughts?

Also where is that case you said you were going to make on mal?

[RobCapone]

And mari, you want to lynch me, make a case on me cause right now all you have is your sheep vote

[RobCapone]

Not paying attention to what, you haven't made a case, you voting me cause chess voted me and no other reason

You declare me scum all of a sudden, that is sheeping and fail logic

You cant declare somebody scum without a case
And yes you can sheep somebody who has voted someone else by voting with them for no reason, which is what you did

You don't want to call it sheeping? Fine but it IS scummy

Blindly following someone for their reasons and not your own is scummy

And is your last sentence a refusal my demand to make a case on me? If you are town you should make a case before voting someone. Not responding to my demands to make a case on the person you are voting for is ultra scumilicious

[RobCapone]

To sheep is to follow

[RobCapone]

Question for chess, do you think mari is buddying you at all?

Go back and re-read if you must, before answering

[RobCapone]

Dude your play compared to mine, hands down you win the VI comparison

The people who have a problem with me just don't understand what I'm doing, it doesn't make me a VI and in actuality, my play this game hasn't been that bad. The only think that jumps out is my self voting but I had my own reasons for it, reactions are key in this game and mari's following chess was key evidence that I will use later in the game. She I'd playing very smart and I'm not 100% but my gut is telling me she is most likely scum. That's why I asked chess that question to re-read her posts to see if he feels she is buddying, because to me it's pretty obvious what she is doing.

But right now my case on Gaoth makes sense to me, his purposeful non scum hunting play style is typical play for mafia cause mafia can't scum hunt.

And like I said already, think I am scum? Put a case in print

Voting without a case is the most in-town thing you can do in a game. A case forces you to out your reasons down to be analyzed by everyone

Right now chess is voting me because I defended mal because I didn't find his posts scummy, where chess defended because he doesn't find him scummy cause it's his playstyle.

Mari just sheeps

Palmer posts nothing but promises a case later

Right now my case is 2 people without a case and 1 with a vote cause he thinks I'm being a hypocrite or contradicting

[RobCapone]

Rob, to me, you look town but only BECAUSE you look like an idiot. Who votes themselves when they have 2 or 3 votes of pressure on them? Honestly.

Reaction testing

[RobCapone]

That bolder statement is a product of my iPhone auto-correct

Un-town changes to In-town

So I meant un-town

And I don't care about the wagon on me, I don't need any branches. I just call it like I see it

As for you excuse about activity, fine you can be telling the truth, or not.

I have lied about my activity as scum before cause it's the easiest thing to get away with and people understand real life issues better

You comment about my avatar never was a factor and neither was your random vote, I look at who is contributing and who is making cases and you aren't making a case, you are following DH's

Somebody once told me scum can't scum hunt, and you haven't been scum hunting

[RobCapone]

Don't just call me scummy, make a case. On me or someone else until you do you don't have the right to call anyone scummy

And I beleive 100% anyone avoiding scum hunting has a good potential to be scum, making a case for others to disect is tough to do if you are mafia so they avoid it for as long as they can

I will look over niko's iso but I chose yours cause G came before N

When I get down time I am reading everyone's iso.

Oh and your jokes are irrelevant to my case but nice to throw that out there like it matters

[RobCapone]

1. No insult atleast not an intentional one
2. Was looking over inactive people's iso and you were first
3. Things are not what they appear, I am not a newb, just this account is
4. And I beleive your sarcasm was unnecessary, your reaction to my one vote seems weird, why freak over one vote?

[RobCapone]

gaoth, I would love to comment on nic but his last post not counting his "I'm sorry I'll catch up soon" post was 8 days ago and that past was him saying he knows about your demeanor in a game of mafia and personality in general and he was saying to vote you and the rest was him being attacked for a super crazy reason by Lord C so not much to evaluate, this is the kind of person you let the mod handle by prodding or replacing.

[RobCapone]

mod please prod nico again if possible

[RobCapone]

Sorry to hear that

[RobCapone]

Funny thing is i haven't been scummy and I have made plenty of sense

You just mad I called you out for hopping off a bandwagon very suspiciously and pointed out your sheeping

The only thing I have done is self vote which you have admitted doing in the past, self voting, especially early on a wagon isn't scummy in my mind and it isn't a scum tell.

My case on Gaoth is also super solid reasoning

[RobCapone]

Funny thing is i haven't been scummy and I have made plenty of sense

My case on Gaoth is also super solid reasoning

This is a non sequitur.

You can't call something illogical without saying why

[RobCapone]

still waiting for your lolcase on me

[RobCapone]

because your vote was basically, jumping on the largest wagon instead of Lord C, which is scummy

[RobCapone]

Why do you care so much about what others think?

Think for yourself

[RobCapone]

I don't think lord is stupid but I definitely think he is and has been scummy

[RobCapone]

Why do you care so much about what others think?

Think for yourself

Seriously? Do you not know why I'm going to

FoS

you here? Think about that for a while...

You already followed chess and mari and you voted without a case on me (baa sheep)
Now you are going to fos me too?

And not sure why you underlined that part, you did say

"I want to know if Maryita, Chesskid, WoMC agree with this"


That's clearly you waiting to get their opinion instead of forming your own, you followed with "I don't think I do" which leaves you open to change your mind once the others chime in

[RobCapone]

1. the comment I made about not caring what people thing, is referring to I don't care if people find me scummy, where it is clear you are trying to get on people's good side.
2. whenever ANYONE makes a case, whether you think they are scummy or not, everyone who is town should still read and consider if it makes sense, writing off a person just because they act scummy is anti-town but that is what you and others are doing and have done.
3. people who have not made any cases in this game but keep promising to are the ones you need to look at because typically scum does a crappy job of making cases or won't do them at all because scum have trouble scumhunting town.

yes some of my actions have been scummy, especially my self vote, but i don't follow the theory that mafiascum follows about self voting. I can explain this later if you would like.

I have made a very good case against gaoth, he is trying to fly under the radar and won't make a case on anyone.

you think my play sucks, fine I don't care but don't ignore cases when they are made. ANY CASE is better than no case at all. read it, comment on it, than decide for yourself what you want to do.

[RobCapone]

chess, I am sorry but you are completely fooling yourself, get serious in this game and start scum hunting or replace out. Attacking the most loudest and obnoxious posters =/= scum hunting and rarely on this site day 1 do they flip scum

you just want to eliminate all VIs and you are tying to hide that by posting illogical arguments and pushing your opinions as fact.

and good thing you LOL'd at the leader comment but by coming in here and making the comments you make and telling people who need to die and who need to be Vig'd is exactly what you are trying to act like.


I am more than willing to be lynched to help end the day, but if you are trying to lynch scum, you best get back to scum hunting. Which btw you have done very little of

[RobCapone]

NONONONONO THIS IS WHAT HE IS TRYING TO DO. HE'S JUST SPEWING ANYTHING HE CAN AND DISAGREEING WITH EVERYBODY TO LOOK TOO AWFUL TO BE SCUM. DO NOT FALL FOR IT.

Shotty does this shit quite often and the majority of the time, he's town. What makes Rob any different?

It's much easier to get a lynch on these people than to actually scum hunt

Just read an interesting thread about this in the mafia discussion forum

While I know you guys think I an a VI, I really do have a method to my madness. Not understanding my method =/= VI. But for the sake of discussion, I'll play along and say I am acting like a VI
This thread is all about scum killing VIs at night, the consensus is it's easier to just get them lynched, which is what chess is pushing for

He pushed for a Lord Cable lynch and noe he is pushing for my lynch and not really providing reasons we are scum, just that we seem scummy

You may not agree with my method of play just like I don't agree with somebody elses but this game is about using your head and what you know

I just read through 30 games on site and most of them were a VI getting lynched day 1, and guess what? They were town. Like you said DH, shotty pulls this crap all the time, so does furclow and Andrew and they are usually town

Of course the argument could be made that I am not them or what if I'm not town this time, etc but why waste a day 1 lynch on somebody so obvious? Use your brains here, if you really think mafia is going to make themselves a target day 1, you are sadly mistaken

In my experience of playing mafia for 2+ years mafia tries to stay off the radar, they use 2 methods

1. Act town/buddy to town. It is the easiest way to earn town cred

2. Lay low, stay under the radar


I can honestly say I have never caught scum by them being obvious, maybe your experiences are different so if you have lynched scum day 1 because they were acting like a VI, link me to it please cause I have never seen it happen.

Chess, all you are doing is distracting with you all caps and your lolstatements, you are playing off the cuff and not thinking things through

I stopped thinking and my play went to shit, I am not proud of my play this game but I assure you, I am on town's side this game.

[RobCapone]

Not flailing, making sense

Sad you can't tell the difference

[RobCapone]

Point a game where you lynched scum by them acting obvious day 1 please

[RobCapone]

Chess, post a case on me

Bullet point my scum tells for the world to see

[RobCapone]

Wow he was bad and you know what? He refused to make a case on people

He threw a few quoted and said it wad a case

He never explained why what people did or said was scummy

See scum hunting is pointing out words and behavior, pointing it out to others, and ate you ready for the third part?

explaining WHY it is scummy.

And no my argument is not wifom, it's called common sense

Obviously there will be exceptions

Day 1 should be focused on people not willing to make a case on somebody or somebody who follows the pack to not draw attention

Gaoth's reaction to my vote was susppicious to me

I still am waiting for your case on me Too Palmer

[RobCapone]

The case has been made.

I'll throw in another point against you. Your top 3 scum suspects are all people voting for you. WOW WHAT A FUCKING SURPRISE

1. You have not posted a case
2. My top 3 are Lord, Gaoth, and mari

Nice try

[RobCapone]

Cases are what you do when someone isn't clearly scum. You're clearly scum, so the need for any further evidence is gone.
What is he at L-3 or L-4? 3 or 4 more votes are required, and bonus points for hammering without a claim.

Yeah encourage more anti-town behavior

[RobCapone]

Wow so when did your top 3 stop being Me,mary and Lord C? BECAUSE I MISSED ANY REASONING FOR THAT MEMO

Maybe you should read the thread more

I said you or mari, mari more obvious cause she had buddied you

I made my case on Gaoth and stand by it

[RobCapone]

Fine, lynch me

I can't play with stupid people anyways

Btw I'll save time and claim now so you can just bandwagon and not have to wait til I am at L-1 and pretend to care formmy claim

Matchbox 20 - Vanilla townie

Peace guys, when i flip town think about who is avoiding making cases and who is lurking in the shadows

Also notice who is sheeping and buddying

[RobCapone]

Chess, the longer you refuse to post a case the worse you will look day 2

Pointing out quotes and trying to downplay them is not scum hunting

Post 4 things that makes me scum and why

[RobCapone]

Except you haven't caught anyone, you caught a scummy playing VT

Nice job guys :golfclap:

[RobCapone]

Maybe your next post will be that case you keep avoiding?

[RobCapone]

Angry mob? You just said I wasn't the easy wagon or something

And since when is it unreasonable to ask for a case be made on the person you are lynching?

[RobCapone]

You mean when I called you defense based on meta crap and my saying mal wasn't scummy cause his posts weren't

You got all mad and came after me?

Yeah you mad cause I called you on your BS and now you are trying to bully people without a valid case on me

So post one or STFU

[RobCapone]

yes I am at L-2 but it doesn't matter I already have claimed

hey whatever happened to this?

Reasoning will come later tonight.

you said you would make a case on me and didn't

Chess still refuses to make a case so I urge town that once I am lyched and I flip what I have claimed already, please use your brains tomorrow and don't let people push a lynch without making an official case on somebody.

thanks and GO TOWN

[RobCapone]

@chess one last question, is there anyone On site that you if they were behaving like I am, would be more willing to beleive they are town?

[RobCapone]

Well I'm fighting a losing battle, being cruicifued without anyone telling me what I have done. Saying a person is scummy because you say so isn't good enough to lynch somebody. You need to provide examples so I can explain myself, not like you would beleive me anyway.

And yes I now realize on this site you guys think self voting is bad, yet I cant find a single reason why, that makes sense to me. Self hammer is bad but self voting, especially if the vote is removed later, isn't hurting anyone and isn't scummy in my mind

My other actions

The whole chess defense vs my defense - my reason of content IN GAME vs his META is still valid.

Accusing mari of following chess blindly and not making a case on mal. Go back and read this is true

My vote on Gaoth? I still beleive he was/is lurking. Once I voted him he freaked out, he votes me for saying I'm scummy but doesn't in my mind it's a way to hide his OMGUS vote because people will go along with it

Do I play different than most? Yes I do

Does my play seem scummy to you? Well yeah obviously

Have a i done anything that is considered a scum slip? No

Does scummy play = scum? Looking over the site people like

Furclow, Andrew, shotty,

hoponmyjoystick

, and others get day 1 lynched for scummy play and they turn up to be town

So if you think I made a scum slip, lynch me

But you have a claimed VT who has claimed his band name (obvious breadcrumbs before saying name) who could not possibly be mafia, and all you have to lynch is "he plays scummy"

Sorry, if you are going to lynch somebody you should have something more than "he plays scummy"

[RobCapone]

I did not say my wagon mainly consists of scum

I don't know who is scum but I have me theories

My style of play is unfortunately to be over active, I even created this alt to work on it but it's failing cause I ignored my own advice, don't post from my iPhone

I started doing that and my play went to shit.

I accuse people as a defense mechanism, one game a accused like 6 or 7 people in 1 day Phase and was shocked nobody believed me when I claimed. That game is still on going but you can check my completed games on my main and see I talk too much.

I know there are no brakes, but I'm still telling the truth

[RobCapone]

@ Palmer

I call people sheep when they vote for no reason

Go look at mari's vote on me, can you honestly say it her vote looks ok

[RobCapone]

Quoted so people don't have to go look

This vote is following and buddying chess wrapped in a present

Oh, look. Scum#2 is trying to joke w/ Chessypoo, too. How fun!

UNVOTE: Malthusis (Don't think this means you're off the hook. You die tomorrow.)
VOTE: RobCapone Capone-wagon is go for launch!

LC would make good vigbait.

[RobCapone]

demon did give me the reactions I wanted when I self voted, overreactions galore

[RobCapone]

We should lynch saporo. I have a really good reason - she's scum.

Can you explain why YOU think she is scum?

[RobCapone]

Would you please?

[RobCapone]

Rob, how long have you been playing mafia, both on MS and in general?

Cable, would you be willing to lynch RobCapone?

And I'm seconding/thirding the suspicious lack of DH in this thread. I've never known him to lurk this hard.

when I combine all my alt's I think I began playing on MS since september

I have been playing mafia on another site for originally I thought 2 years but looking at my first game, It was actually March of this year but I have played 70 games during that time.

[RobCapone]

Yeah, sorry guys, I'm here. Finals are creeping up on me.

demon did give me the reactions I wanted when I self voted, overreactions galore

This kind of irks me. Why do you think someone who believes selfvoting is antitown is overreacting? Did you think this of anyone else?

1st I totally agree with the thought that self-voting is anti-town but that I have learned that is the general consensus on this site so i can't change the brain washing that everyone has gone through.

it was your OVER-REACTION, that was suspicious to me. You can call me out for self voting but your reaction didn't seem sincere to me, but again my reads this game are fucked so I don't even know what I am talking about.

I agree if I self-hammered that would be bad if I was town, but mari's obvious ridiculous reaction to my self voting and her comments about chessiepoo and what not was so obviously stupid that my initial knee-jerk reaction was to post something stupid back, which was what I did with my self vote.

Sadly I learned that bad habbit from epicmafia, which I have stopped playing because I developed way to many bad habits from that site.

I know it doesn't make any sense to anyone and I still expect to get lynched, but I am telling the truth.

[RobCapone]

and yes I have self voted as town before on my alt

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 8#p2601278

[RobCapone]

Yeah and if I didn't accidentialky posted in a game under homj, I would still have denied it, I'm trying to improve my play til I ignored my own rule

[RobCapone]

Interesting your lack if Internet coincides with deadline

[RobCapone]

I'm telling you mari is most likely scum

[RobCapone]

Once people make their mind up it's possible to change it. Chess has played with me and knows how I am as town.

I still want to know why chess ignored my question to him about mari.

[RobCapone]

Policy lynch is anti town
Didn't single handheld lose it, andrew and zed helped lose it
I'm talking about her buddying

[RobCapone]

Werewolf's vote just made no sense

[RobCapone]

Lord, you are a bad player this game, but so am I

[RobCapone]

^makes sense actually

[RobCapone]

Yes it is, my claim has been made, just waiting for a hammer

[RobCapone]

Well I got nothing to lose but I agree with a werewolf lynch, his lurking and vote for lord c for no logical reason

unvote, vote: werewolf

[RobCapone]

yeah his iso is really easy to do, it's only 10 posts and he does say he probably would not be on a lord cable wagon at the end of the day, yet his vote is for..... Lord Cable

[RobCapone]

werewolf has 4 votes so L-3

[RobCapone]

I was getting ready to say I believed that claim also

[RobCapone]

And I'll go on a limb and say mari's vote is obvious bus my partner vote

[RobCapone]

Lord C would be stupid if he was scum to hammer his partner, but you never know

[RobCapone]

Lol Gaoth

[RobCapone]

I'm thinking mari and Gaoth personally

[RobCapone]

Yeah I can see your points on sapo, nic

[RobCapone]

Lol at werewolf fucking with us

I know what's coming next

[RobCapone]

Oh and

vote mari

She is still scum in my eyes

[RobCapone]

He was casting suspicion on sapo

Nico also tried to throw sapo under the bus but that was when we beleived wolf was scum,

Would he bus his partner knowing the flip would actually be town and people would think nothing of it?

[RobCapone]

I distinctly remember sapo defending lord C, almost seemed like he knew he was town, saying he was an idiot or whatever

I'll give up on mari for now, sapo makes sense to me

unvote, vote: sapo

[RobCapone]

All the sapo hate was conditional on a werewolf scumflip.
My guess is he was going to be like lol werewolf was town there goes that today.

I don't think so

I think mafia killed him cause he was on to something
I think nico was throwing sapo under the bus cause he knew wolf was going to flip town and than nico was going to come back the next day and be like, "well damn I guess I was wrong" or something.

the fact nico is dead and that wolf flipped town makes me suspect that he really fucked up and bussed his own partner as a joke.

[RobCapone]

Gaoth, why did you hammer without letting sapo speak?

[RobCapone]

well you didn't put the colon after vote so maybe slaxx won't count it.

[RobCapone]

my pick for scum is WOMC or gaoth but I was clearly wrong about mari and sapo so idk

[RobCapone]

I cast the first vote I beleive, I am under no obligation to un-vote

It's the morons obligation to not fucking hammer him

Womc is the one I'm almost positive is scum

But if not him than I actually think chess is scum, and he has you all fooled

[RobCapone]

I don't get it

[RobCapone]

if you want to mislynch by all means vote me

[RobCapone]

and scum can't scumhunt is the truth, you could be scum for all I know

why don't we all claim our band names

[RobCapone]

hmm mal replacing is suspicious

[RobCapone]

gaoth are you dumb because I have already claimed my band name so how could I be looking for a new band to claim?

[RobCapone]

I am Matchbox twenty and my song is Real world from 1996, the main performance I am Vanilla townie

[RobCapone]

you are scum cause you hammered without waiting for a claim, if we are lynching anyone it really should be you

unvote, vote: Gaoth

hammer without waiting for a claim is the most scummy thing anyone can do, luckily it was just a townie and not something more important

[RobCapone]

But that's not true cause I think you all are scum and I'm town

[RobCapone]

I'm not trolling, I seriously think all of you can be scum. I don't have a single pro-town read on anyone because all of you have been scummy as shit.

[RobCapone]

it's irational to think everyone is scum because nobody has done anything to show you are acting town?

everyone followed chess for his leading but where I come from leading is sketchy cause you don't know what the fuck they are leading you to
you are wishy washy
gaoth - lurking, avoiding scum hunting, sheeping, hammer without claim
palmer - he is all over the fucking place not making any sense
malt - he has essentially clammed up and is requesting a replacement (if there is only 1 scum left, an unexperienced player would not be able to take down the entire town, even if the cop was dead)
and me, I know I am clear but you guys don't


honestly I am not asking everyone to say their role, but what harm is it if we say our band names. clearly REM as COP was never beleivable (and honestly I think I have lost respect for the mod for giving such a crappy band a power role and even including matchbox 20 at all)

there is no harm in saying band names, only one who would object would be scum and gaoth objected when I made the suggestion.

man up and state your band name and your song, and let's go from there

[RobCapone]

and I will gladly self vote, I don't even care because we can afford a mislynch and if me dead helps you guys clear your minds to catch the final scum, I will gladly take one for the team.

tbh, the I think WOMC is the most likely bad guy cause out of the few people left he was the one not willing to vote me for lynch, and scum in my mind earns town cred if they try and defend a townie about to get lynched.

[RobCapone]

just wondered something, is there anything that we should look into with mafia being 2 different colors, normally mafia is same color

[RobCapone]

Meta.

And I'm fine with band claims.

Everclear - Santa Monica

Good choice, Slaxx.

ahh I like father of mine, that is the song that I remember most from them

[RobCapone]

Chesskid already spotted mine.

he did?

[RobCapone]

plu sI see no need to popcorn, just claim. popcorn is such a waste of time

[RobCapone]

mod I believe palmer is voting for me

-Fixed

[RobCapone]

Seems fishy

[RobCapone]

K, I don't know what palmer is talking about. Maybe he thinks I spotted a breadcrumb but I didn't.

I also don't know that mass bandclaim is a good idea because it might out a PR...R.E.M as cop kinda makes sense, etc.

Most queer band of the 90s makes sense as cop how?

[RobCapone]

And?

[RobCapone]

When I saw rem was cop I thought it was a weird choice

Most well known doesnt automatically mean PR

[RobCapone]

Well nobody else has any better ideas and I'm not comfortable blindly following you

[RobCapone]

Talking how you have acted like the leader all game, people write you off as most pro-town player but your reads have been shit

[RobCapone]

@Palmer

Chess denied seeing your crum so now what do you have to say

[RobCapone]

You thought I was scum and Lord C

You are wrong on both = your reads are shit

[RobCapone]

Funny you are in the scum spots on both lynches

[RobCapone]

1. You not really scum hunting, just VI hunting
2. Your votes for both of them were weak to non existent
3. You vote very opportunistically in both town wagons
4. You try to lead town but the people you try to lead don't get lynched you let someone else lead the actual lynch

[RobCapone]

I'm tempted to self hammer just to piss you off more

[RobCapone]

No that was his attempt to buddy up to you so you follow him too

[RobCapone]

oasis wasn't very popular in the states, they were an english rock band mostly and none of their stuff went further than gold.

not sure how believable that claim is, just saying

[RobCapone]

Coming from the guy not scum hunting, thats funny

My versionif scum hunting I'd pointing out things I think is scummy and why I think they are, I have been doing that all game

You just say people are scummy but refuse to post reasons or examples when asked

You also balk at band claiming

[RobCapone]

Damn I hate my iphone

[RobCapone]

Remember scum can't scum hunt, go look for examples of chess actually scum hunting, you will be shocked when you can't find many examples, if you can find any at all

[RobCapone]

Can't help that town is stupid

I'm bored. Good bye

unvote, vote:robcapone

[RobCapone]

Self voting when I have no chance to turn my wagon around is acceptable, self voting period isn't scummy

Somebody brainwashed you all into believing it

I did it now and will do it again

[RobCapone]

Scum is you, who hammers is regardless

And if you are town(find this hard to beleive) your play is just as bad as mine

Only difference is I know I suck and I'm working on it, you actually think you are a good player which is horrible

You sucked in that other game we played too

[RobCapone]

I nailed Gaoth
Mari, if you are town don't buddy people and sheep vote
An town member who honestly thought chess was town needs to re-evaluate cause he did little to no scum hunting all game
Big clue was how day 2 he backed off his attack on me
Self voting is not scummy
Only reason I self hammered cause I realized chess was scum and there was NO CHANCE anyone was going to follow me on a lynch
Town needs to pay attention more and not discount players cause they play like a VI, mafia win by lynching the VIs so save them til lylo if you have to
Mod, fun game but personally 2 scum team in a small setup makes it almost impossible for town to win, town has enough trouble with one mafia group

And I don't care what anyone says about my play this game, I player better than most of you, and yes I am arrogant like that

[RobCapone]

And I don't care what anyone says about my play this game, I player better than most of you, and yes I am arrogant like that

You RAEGQUIT and I blacklisted you.

I didn't rage quit, I was going to be lynched regardless
0 cares about you blacklisting me cause it just shoes how immature you are

I was dead, no chance for a pardon

The hammer wouldn't help town cause scum was already on my wagon

But keep fooling yourself

[RobCapone]

Self hammer when I'm dead anyway is acceptable

But I am used to a different type of mafia


The self hammer was a realization that omg chess is scum and town is completely fooled and he is getting me lynched

[RobCapone]

Your modding was fine slaxx

I apologize for self hammering

[RobCapone]

I admit self hammering is probably bad but the outcome didn't change

I was going to be lynched anyway

Again apologies for that but disappointed you all ignored me about Gaoth, I was so dead on accurate about him

And parama or whoever, blacklist me if you want but your play did nothing to help town either

[RobCapone]

Parama was lord cable

[RobCapone]

I won't self hammer but I will self vote if a ridiculous chain of events happen like chess and mari voting me. I'll still never get why anyone thought chess was actually pro town

[RobCapone]

Ok help me improve, why am I accused of being scummy every game when all I'm doing us trying to find scum

Ever game I'm accused, I just don't know why

P. Edit

It was obvious chess was scum

[RobCapone]

Yeah, and RC had Gaoth read too. He just has a disagreeable playstyle, he actually read people fairly well this game.

What's disagreeable ? Excluding the hammer of course

[RobCapone]

I scum hunt, how is that scummy?
I try to vote with a reason, how is that scummy
I call out scummy behavior and people who vote for no reason, how is this scummy?

P.edit

Werewolf I think your gambit after your death actually hurt town cause it created false environment

[RobCapone]

Would you be offended if I just said it was your personality? I dont wanna be a dick but I dont wanna like beat around the bush either. Not saying you yourself are disagreeable, its just you come off that way in games. Just like I'm kind of defeatist and emo sometimes in my games (see Murder in the Desert). Idk sometimes I felt you were being passive aggressive I guess. Don't take offense please

Yeah my town meta is passive aggressive but if I'm scum hunting and others are not, why pick on the person who is atleast trying

Save me for lylo cause no chance mafia will kill me

[RobCapone]

If I stopped playing on my iPhone I'd probably play better

I don't think when I'm in my phone

P.edit. VCA?