Open 144 - Near-Vanilla - GAME OVER!

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/confirm

[Zer0ph34r]

Pitstop, Stephanie rules!

[Zer0ph34r]

vote: The Corporation

For having an extremely good reason to vote for me.

[Zer0ph34r]

Oh yeah, I have claimed to be scum 3 or 4 times I believe now. I won't claim scum if I don't get pissed at the stupidity of people. So far, I see no stupidity. But we're only 4 pages in.

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Oh man, I've heard the now term "Zer0 Wagon" in like every game I've been in. I would gladly participate in the game, but as I say in other games, th eonly thing I can see basing a vote on in the first day is how other people react to votes towards them. (Or if they claim scum, which would be questionable.)

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I claimed because although I realize that this is a game made to be fun, I usually cannot stand when there are such obvious points of logic in a game and no one is seeing it but myself. Also because some people I hate so much in this game, that I wanted to ensure their loss, mafia or not. People always seem to try and say that I said one thing and then flip flop which I have never done and then try to pile up crap on me and then say I am scrambling when I am explaining myself.

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I've been told that before and I refuse. If my "team" can't win, I must screw someone over from the other "team". (Or my "team" depending on the person.)

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Babysit my emotions? That's definitely what I came to this game for. And I don't give a crap whether you care about my feelings or whatever. Hence the false claims.

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I stated why I don't post much in the first day, especially at this point.

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I'm not liking this AndyTony guy. It's like he thinks he's all knowing. Like Allah or Entertainment Weekly. He's very serious and acts like he is the boss. And if you're going to ask me why, it's your posts. Read them and you'll know.

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Probably.

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I've never played with 13 players, but I would definitely assume that there are 3, because assuming there are 2 may result in bad judgment.

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Reading? What a joke.

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ODD, I could do that for you, my very last post...

Reading? What a joke.

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Apparently you think the same way.

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Khamisa, I do play to win when I enter, but some people, not that I will say any names [ZWET], piss me off to the point where winning is not priority one. It's more like 2. Ignorant, ha! *Inhales cig* I don't even know what ignorant is.

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And btw, do you want me to claim scum, because you seem to want me to with the assured thought that I will.

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AndyTony, that is the prime example of idiots trying to find some kind of evidence on me, scum hunt me all you want, I never said don't. In fact, I never said don't do anything [although I implied don't be stupid]. Just like the others, finding the slightest thing you can find to point at me and say I'm scum.

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unvote

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Hewitt: I know. In this game, scum or not, people want to find a reason to lynch someone else just so they can stay in the game.

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I'm still here, just observing people's actions.

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Lurking indeed isn't getting you anywhere, but it's getting me info to think of for myself.

Cephrir- I think the arguments against him are valid, however, I find it odd that he doesn't seem to be defending himself too much, but that doesn't mean I find it scummy. [Many people think when I say "odd" I mean "scummy".]

The Corporation- Not necessarily scum, but I am suspicious of him, since he has kept his vote for me since the very beginning for the lame reason that he doesn't like that my name has letters and numbers in it. Thus, making me believe that it's just an easy way for him to vote for me without anyone noticing.

AndyTony- I don't think much of his playing and I don't like him [But I won't vote based on that].

Pitstop- The only reason I think he's scum is because I like him. Everyone I hate seems to always be town.

Hewitt- I haven't got much of an opinion of you (as far as this game goes).

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I would call that defending yourself, but not too much.

And you should be sorry. Apology accepted. You'd be right to be suspicious of me too, seeing as how the only time I made it passed day one, I was scum.

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Exactly my point, Kdub, he doesn't have one.

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I don't like AndyTony because I just don't.
I like Pitstop, because he has not spoken to me.

Kdub, my thought as to why he kept his vote is because he's seen my previous gameplay and doesn't want me in the game and he thought people would in time dislike and vote for me.

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I'm not scum you would be wise to believe me.

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Reason: Because I don't lie.

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Ah, true. I could be lying about being town and indeed be scum. But I'm not. And I don't actually expect you to believe what I say. I know I've given myself a terrible reputation based on previous actions that were not necessarily scummy actions, but without a doubt anti-town and I realize learning about player's previous games is a great way to learn about what they may do, but that's not always the case with me. And I won't lie, I was a compulsive liar in the game I was scum in. And spare me with all of your "he's doing this as a last save". I'm not. Go ahead and vote me if you want. It's a game and I know that. All I do is spice it up for myself and make it confusing for others.

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Close to being lynched? Don't I have 2 or 3 votes out of 27?

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Yeah, sorry. That was my mistake. But still. I have 1 vote out of 12. As of now, I'm not in danger of being lynched [number of votes wise].

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I realize it takes 7 votes, but I mean out of a possible 12 votes. It has nothing to do with it, someone just said that I was in danger of being lynched or something.

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Well, I guess it would be fair to say that, AndyTony. However, aside from 3 or 4 people, I haven't heard many people's opinions of my current status in the game. Like myself, they may be keeping their thoughts to themselves, but I doubt most people are doing that.

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No.

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Vote: dejkha

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Amazing how much conversation a couple of bold letters can start. I voted for him because him not posting, even before prodding him seemed like a way to stay under the radar. He had maybe one conflict and the end. And I didn't try to confuse the game [at least during that vote]. If you don't like my vote, do something about it.

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Oh, I must also agree with hewitt. This game is boring as hell. Can we just lynch someone already?


Yeah, yeah, yeah. Scum tell. I don't care. Just make something happen.

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(The Corporation, AndyTony, ODDin, Cephrir) 4 Down, 3 to go. Join the club!

AndyTony, I am 99% you are scum along with one of the other 3 who have voted for me. You seem to be trying to make yourself look like the good guy, which you have done quite well and finding the PERFECT reason to vote for me, which you almost have.

PS: Voting for me will only hurt the town.

9/1-13/14-15-20/12-25-9-14-7

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The Replacement? That's his name?

Anyway, you want a defense? I don't defend myself so much anymore due to the fact that most players will most likely say I'm scrambling or using a last attempt to stay in the game no matter what my defense is. But I shall try: Pretty much all of my accusations of scum were based off of previous games where I self claim as scum and most of the time, falsely do so. Aside from that, I don't think I've given any sort of suspicious behavior other then not defending myself. If you think dejkha and everyone who voted for me is scum, then why aren't you voting for one of them and instead me? And as far as me telling you to deal with it, you DO have to deal with it. I welcome votes for me, but I don't encourage it. If you want to vote for me go ahead, but it won't get you any closer to winning, at least in this stage. Time to make quick history...

Unvote
Vote: Zer0ph34r

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unvote

Like I said, you can vote me for not being productive, but at this stage in the game, it would be smarter to try and find scum first.

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Fine. REASON: I know dejkha wanted out of the game and since he likes being town more. Therefore, I'm assuming he was scum.

Cephrir: What exactly have you done to help the town? [Not trying to find scum, I mean what have you actually done that has made an impact on the town?]

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ODD, if I look scum to you, so what? You've already voted for me, so I don't really care too much.

Funny Cephrir, you claim I've done nothing to benefit the town, you claim to have done the same. I realize that finding scum is essential for a town win. But most judgments on the first day without any actions performed are nearly useless.

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I'm not specifically trying not to, I just have incredibly low expectations of finding something useful at this point. And if I were to start questioning more and trying to find out more, you all would most likely think that I am lurking or scum or whatever.

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I agree with AndyTony, mainly because I have already claimed to be town.

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Oh.

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Who is "him"?

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You said that as a question. Is it me? And what is the point of asking me to claim if you're going to assume I've given up at a claim?

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Hmmm...

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Boredom setting in...

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379, Zer0ph34r finally explains the dejkha vote by saying that dejkha prefers to be Town and not Scum, thus the lack of dedication is a scum tell for dejkha. Obviously I know dejkha isn't scum though. My question, however, is this: Zer0, where did you get this meta knowledge? How reliable is it? Cephrir, you seem to have this meta knowledge about dejkha too, so my questions for Zer0 here also go to you. - Alduskkel

I find something very interesting in this. You say that you KNOW Dejkha isn't scum. The only way you could possibly know this is if you were scum because then you would know who isn't scum. Is this the case? Or did I catch you with a whoopsie? And to answer your question, I got my answer from dejkha. He told me likes being town more than scum. This doesn't necessarily mean he is scum, but it's giving some scum points.

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Do you all believe that Alduskkel is pro-town, anti-town or mafia?

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Just answer the question, what does it matter why I asked it? I obviously want an answer.

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Cephrir, why would you want me to claim scum? So you have an easy reason to vote for me? I'm town. I've stated this before. (I think, anyway.)

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Sure, but I ain't no power role, I'm a simple wittwe townie.

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Also, could we get a vote count?

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Sorry I haven't posted. I had eye surgery, so I will try to post by Monday.

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Thank science not much has gone on since I left.

Alduskkel, I claimed because if I want you to know I'm town.

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It wasn't a stupid move, on my part anyway. I'm very sure that had I not claimed, somewhere along the lines, someone would've went, "Well, Zer0's never actually claimed to be pro-town before, let's lynch him". So I think me claiming is better off than not at all. Just to clarify; I am a Vanilla Townie, which is town.

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Well, I don't honestly give a crap. Either way, I already claimed and we can't change that. So PHBT! Jog-On.

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First of all ODDin, don't put things in quotes if I didn't say them. Second, why have you lost hope in me? Because I said I was scum?

Hohum, you gotta bold that vote for me, you messed it up a bit. And thank you.

Aldusskel, I forget that town & vanilla townie are different, due to the word "town", but either way, what does it matter if you people [yes, white/black people] don't even care if I claim. Saying that you'd rather me not claim. And what post was this dejkha meta thingy? I'm too lazy to look for something that I don't want to answer. [Oh yes. So scummy to be lazy, too]

TheReplacement, thank you. My claim doesn't help the scum only. It helps you, because now you know I am scum. Or at least your choice to believe me. [Which would be smart.]

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Damn, it's like you guys have convinced me I am scum, both of those times I put "scum" I meant "town". And he put words in quotes and claimed they were mine in post #586.

And as for post #379, you didn't ask a question there, that wasn't even a post by you, it was by me!

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Meta...read...WHAT?!

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meta... read...???? uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

?

[Zer0ph34r]

My post had "meta", "read" and a question mark. I'm asking a question. A DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

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For those of you who are unaware, dejkha is my brother. That's how I know all of those things. I guess I should've stated that before assuming everyone knew.

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waters? younger by 13 minutes

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omg, this game is sooooooooooo boring!

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Why would I be frustrated if he quit on me? I quit on people all the time?

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Besides, I wouldn't vote for my partner if he quit. I'd be pissed, but I wouldn't put a vote on my partner.

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What he said.

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k.

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hohum, I have never hopped on a wagon in my entire gameplay, what makes you think I will now?

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Oh I did help lynch him, but did I "hop on"? No. I voted for him and much later, his lynch was caused. If I was the last one to vote for him or if everyone started voting for him in a very quick amount of time, you'd be right, but you're not.

PS: That could've been 1 post.

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I never even brought up whether or not I had a reason for voting for him, so I have no idea where that came from. I don't "snipe" at everyone who votes without a good reason and I never said "BANDWAGONS R EVIL ARGGGH!!". Not even anything meaning that. And do me a favor and don't put words in my mouth or claim that I have said things that I have not despite the fact that you may think that I said them.

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Because I is what I is and that's all that I claim.

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Probably hurt it because people will think I'm scum trying to get attention off me, but in reality, a post like this would get me a lot of attention, so why even bother?

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I realized it would hurt the town after you asked the question.

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Oh my god. This day is so long. There's been so much happening and yet it's been only a day, this is a sign of things to come.

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He is my fucking brother. Cannot provide ACTUAL proof, except for asking him yourself, he would have no reason to lie. And besides, that has like nothing to do with anything. This much attention on that vote could be in good use.

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Hohum & Alduskel, it's like watching me argue with myself.

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I can't really [at this point] think of why a no lynch would be a good idea.

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This is interesting. Khamisa does eem to have suspicions and her being VLA may be a way for her to lay low. She may be VLA, but also using it as a way for people to forget about her for a while. I don't feel comfortable voting for her quite yet.

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I didn't hammer for one because if I did and it turns out it was a mistake, you all would've voted for me. Also, I did not find Cephrir to be scum and no matter who I voted for at that stage, it wouldn't have made a difference, so I decided not to even vote.

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Okay, Khamisa, but ONLY because you promised.

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Well, if you don't want me to post whenever someone talks about/to me, then I shouldn't respond to this, but I'm going to. The whole AndyTony and MadCrawdad thing: I don't think that there's much going on between you two specifically. I think him [AndyTony] and Aduskel seem to be having something going on. My thoughts are that despite the points that Aduskel seems to be making, I believe that AndyTony & Aduskel may be going back and forth at each other in order to direct attention off of the fact that they could both very well be scum, or at least, not pro-town. Just a thought.


And what flip-flop opinion of Zer0ph34r do you speak of, kDub? I don't recall her [Khamisa] having one of me.

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I'm not liking Khamisa being gone while she's being talked about. I want to hear her reactions... like now.

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Yeah, as of now, I'm hoping she'll be back soon for questioning.

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omg. where is khamisa?

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If it makes any difference, all of the games I've been in, I don't recall ever acting protown. I may seem anti-town, but that's just me. Not pleading a case here, just saying.

"Let Zer0 get away with crap"? What crap do you speak of? I realize I don't play the way most people would like me to, but what "crap" have I ever gotten away with or even spoken of?

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1023, a specific part of it or just in general? Are you sure you want the truth?

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Well, I think everyone always has some kind of target. Someone who they just think is scum or have reasons for it, either way, I think we've all picked someone at some point. I don't find it odd that you were picked for suspicions because I felt the same way near the beginning, but the fact that he picked you as a suspect and then was all questiony confused me, but not necessarily suspicious. Just weird.

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I don't intend on acting anti-town. I just seem that way. I'm not though. It has not worked in other games because it wasn't a strategy nor is it working in this one. I'm developing info to myself. [Yes, that IS lurking. DUH!] And it's working to my advantage... as of now.

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replacement needed. i can't stay in this game anymore.

mod, replace me.