Open 144 - Near-Vanilla - GAME OVER!

hewitt · Post Post #300 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2009 9:30 am

Zer0ph34r wrote:Reason: Because I don't lie.

Why are we supposed to believe that?

ISO · Post Post #301 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2009 10:21 am

Khamisa wrote:
Cephrir wrote:...Then what are you doing exactly? Not observing?
I mean that that shouldn't be all he's doing. With 12 pages, he should have observed a lot of reactions now, so he should be asking some questions.

Right, and this is not hypocritical how exactly?

Also, Zero's logic is clearly impenetrable.

AndyTony · Post Post #302 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2009 11:34 am

Zer0ph34r wrote:Reason: Because I don't lie.

Technically you lie a lot - but only when you feel there is a reason (ie. lying about being scum because you don't like the town)

Which indeed makes one wonder if what you have observed is the need to actively lurk and lie.

Zer0ph34r · Post Post #303 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2009 2:59 pm

Ah, true. I could be lying about being town and indeed be scum. But I'm not. And I don't actually expect you to believe what I say. I know I've given myself a terrible reputation based on previous actions that were not necessarily scummy actions, but without a doubt anti-town and I realize learning about player's previous games is a great way to learn about what they may do, but that's not always the case with me. And I won't lie, I was a compulsive liar in the game I was scum in. And spare me with all of your "he's doing this as a last save". I'm not. Go ahead and vote me if you want. It's a game and I know that. All I do is spice it up for myself and make it confusing for others.

hohum · Post Post #304 (ISO) » Wed May 27, 2009 3:07 pm

I know I've said this before, but I'll catch up shortly.

thanks.

ODDin · Post Post #305 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2009 3:35 am

Zer0ph34r wrote:All I do is spice it up for myself and make it confusing for others.

Which is obviously anti-town - scum know who's scum and who's town, there's no much point confusing them, really. The only people whom confusion hurts, and pretty badly at that, are the town.
So, I really don't know what to do about you. You're being admittedly anti-town, you're giving us no arguments about you being not scum when asked (saying "I'm not us because I'm not scum and I don't lie" is like saying nothing.)
Now, what The Corporation here did is essentially WIFOM.

The problem is, no, it' not masterful scum play. Zer0's behaviour is poor and counterproductive whatever his role is. If he's town, then he's just hurting his own team pretty seriously, and if he's scum, he's getting himself needlessly close to being lynched without any point or reason.
However, I'm seriously starting to lean towards policy lynching here. A player whose declared goal is to confuse us is pretty damn dangerous.

AndyTony · Post Post #306 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2009 5:19 am

Confusion hurts town, and people who say they are liars but AREN'T lying doesn't help.

Zer0ph34r · Post Post #307 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2009 8:31 am

Close to being lynched? Don't I have 2 or 3 votes out of 27?

Khamisa · Post Post #308 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2009 8:34 am

Zer0ph34r wrote:Close to being lynched? Don't I have 2 or 3 votes out of 27?

I believe you are posting in the wrong game.

MadCrawdad · Post Post #309 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2009 12:06 pm

I'll catch up the next day or so..

ISO · Post Post #310 (ISO) » Thu May 28, 2009 1:50 pm

No, considering there are 12 players in this game and you only actually have 1 vote. I think the reference was more to behavior that could potentially get you lynched if it continues.

ISO · Post Post #311 (ISO) » Fri May 29, 2009 12:16 am

V/LA over the weekend.

Khamisa · Post Post #312 (ISO) » Fri May 29, 2009 11:34 am

Cephrir wrote:Right, and this is not hypocritical how exactly?

Because I'm not doing much of anything.

ODDin · Post Post #313 (ISO) » Fri May 29, 2009 12:24 pm

I wonder if you understand the meaning of the word hypocrisy.

Zer0ph34r · Post Post #314 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2009 5:40 am

Yeah, sorry. That was my mistake. But still. I have 1 vote out of 12. As of now, I'm not in danger of being lynched [number of votes wise].

ODDin · Post Post #315 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2009 7:19 am

First of all, it takes 7 votes to lynch someone, not 12.
Second, what has that got to do with your horrible anti-town play?

Zer0ph34r · Post Post #316 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2009 8:13 am

I realize it takes 7 votes, but I mean out of a possible 12 votes. It has nothing to do with it, someone just said that I was in danger of being lynched or something.

AndyTony · Post Post #317 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2009 11:21 am

Perhaps the danger wasn't in the number of votes so much as theoretical things like behavior/gameplay&views/Remarks etc.

Zer0ph34r · Post Post #318 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2009 2:02 pm

Well, I guess it would be fair to say that, AndyTony. However, aside from 3 or 4 people, I haven't heard many people's opinions of my current status in the game. Like myself, they may be keeping their thoughts to themselves, but I doubt most people are doing that.

Kdub · Post Post #319 (ISO) » Sat May 30, 2009 6:24 pm

Yeah, things have been a bit quiet, but we've still got some time. I don't think Zero has done anything outright scummy, he just strikes me as an unmotivated townie. I'm still wondering where Pitstop went. He hasn't been replaced, but hasn't posted anything either.

AndyTony · Post Post #320 (ISO) » Sun May 31, 2009 3:40 am

I would say the unmotivated townies (most understandably) are the people holding off on posting until somethin substantial comes up.

It's fair for you to say that Zero hasn't done anythin summy - but a I wouldn't throw the "towny" word around in any form - subconscious from hearing or not, accidental immunity is a killer

AndyTony · Post Post #321 (ISO) » Sun May 31, 2009 3:40 am

god damn "G" key...

ISO · Post Post #322 (ISO) » Sun May 31, 2009 11:42 am

Zer0ph34r wrote:I realize it takes 7 votes, but I mean out of a possible 12 votes. It has nothing to do with it, someone just said that I was in danger of being lynched or something.

Um, wasn't it you who said that?

Back from V/LA.

Zer0ph34r · Post Post #323 (ISO) » Sun May 31, 2009 3:27 pm

hewitt · Post Post #324 (ISO) » Sun May 31, 2009 7:31 pm

Zer0ph34r wrote:Well, I guess it would be fair to say that, AndyTony. However, aside from 3 or 4 people, I haven't heard many people's opinions of my current status in the game. Like myself, they may be keeping their thoughts to themselves, but I doubt most people are doing that.

I honestly don't understand where all this heat on your playstyle is coming from. I feel like people are basically just jumping on you because they've got nothing better to do an you're an easier target to them than others I guess.