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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:34 pm

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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:27 pm

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If you really look back at the corporation, he was actually voting ceph before he left. I've only looked at his posts in isolation though. I'll do a propa readthrough maybe tomorrow.
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:32 pm

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MS was pretty fail when I was composing that message. It obviously posted every draft I went through.

It started as a harshly worded post, with a vote and then I thought about it some more and tried to back it off a great deal. I eventually came to the conclusion that it wasn't worth a vote.

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but IGMYOU anyways.
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:33 pm

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EBWOP: IGMEOU
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:50 pm

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meta... read...???? uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:54 pm

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Alduskkel hasn't posted since you did that the first time. Secondly if you jabber incoherently at people like that it might not be clear to them that you're trying to ask a question.
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:58 pm

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My post had "meta", "read" and a question mark. I'm asking a question. A DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:00 pm

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I know you're asking a question, rude ass.

I'm pointing out to you that you've asked it without forming a complete and coherent thought.

It might not be as obvious to others as it is to me.

I'm also pointing out that you've double posted.
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:17 pm

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pablito wrote:eeeeeeeeeeehhh...until I read somethin.
vote: cephrir
just because it's the highest wagon.
You do realize this is bandwagoning in its boldest form?

@Zer0ph34r: Okay, you said that:
Zer0ph34r wrote:REASON: I know dejkha wanted out of the game and since he likes being town more. Therefore, I'm assuming he was scum.
#1: How do you know dejkha wanted out of the game?
#2: How do you know dejkha liked being Town more?
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:49 pm

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pablito: Why it being the highest wagon is a reason to vote ceph? If anything, it should be a reason not to vote him until you actually think he's worthy of lynching.
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:04 am

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Alduskkel wrote:
pablito wrote:eeeeeeeeeeehhh...until I read somethin.
vote: cephrir
just because it's the highest wagon.
You do realize this is bandwagoning in its boldest form?

Damn, I thought I was throwing away my vote.
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:19 am

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Trowing it away, or throwing it anywere?

You CAN choose to not vote until you actually have a thought.

Zero - answer the questions reiterated in post 609, please
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:46 am

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Yes, I can choose to not vote. But I choose to vote. In the midst of my read through. I found this. I like it.

This is a gem find.
ODDin wrote:If it were up to me to start discussion? Putting extra votes on somebody to start off a small bandwagon often yields results. This works worse in games with few players (if you have 7 players, 3 votes is already L-1) since bandwagons can get out of hand quickly, but it usually works.
For more effect I might fake a small argument out of something. This is sort of what my "OMGUS so early in the morning" was for, although the emoticon kinda ruined it, as it appeared.
Duly noted ODDin. Duly noted.
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:59 am

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Sorry, I guess I should also get more used to quote tags again.

Time for my play-by-play readthrough.

For me the game started when MadCrawdad pointed out ODDin's attempted to create discussion. Cephrir kinda blunted that discussion by making a joke of it. What's more of it is that it points mostly at ODDin's vote on zerophear, not so much at ODDin's inconsistency - which is what I thought seemed to be the more salient point.

On the topic of policy lynching to get out of random voting, well this is near-vanilla. Some lynch is going to get us out of D1. Although with this much time now, we will have something.

On the discussion of hohum and pressuring/annoying scum to make tells. I like the idea. The point though, is to annoy everyone into making tells, then later going through it all and seeing what's genuine and not to figure out if it's a scum tell or town tell. It can be helpful to get the tells, but a good town can figure out later on. Then again, I can be willing to see how this falls out and figure out what we want.

All the while when we got out of "random vote stage", it appeared that KDub stuck mainly with theory posts, rather than moving into pointing anyone out.
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It's all "contributory without moving things along". Maybe the noted suspicions come later, but KDub is very hands-off without looking like it.

Okay, I'm at page 10 now and am leaving for a bit. I'll work on it later.
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:08 am

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farside22 wrote:
Taking over for The Corporation is pablito!!!

Current Phase: Day 1
Votes Needed for Lynch: 7

Current Vote Count


Zer0ph34r - 3 (pablito, Cephrir, hohum )
Cephrir - 3 (MadCrawdad, Alduskkel, AndyTony, ODDin)
Khamisa - 2 (Kdub, The Replacement)


Not Voting: Seryna, Khamisa, OccamR, Zer0ph34r
FYI, limited availability until Monday/Tuesday.

Also, just wanted to point out that the vote tally in the most recent count is incorrect. Based on who is voting for him, Ceph has 4 votes NOT 3.

Pablito's vote then puts him at L-2 with 5 votes.
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:26 am

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pablito wrote:Yes, I can choose to not vote. But I choose to vote. In the midst of my read through. I found this. I like it.

This is a gem find.
ODDin wrote:If it were up to me to start discussion? Putting extra votes on somebody to start off a small bandwagon often yields results. This works worse in games with few players (if you have 7 players, 3 votes is already L-1) since bandwagons can get out of hand quickly, but it usually works.
For more effect I might fake a small argument out of something. This is sort of what my "OMGUS so early in the morning" was for, although the emoticon kinda ruined it, as it appeared.
Duly noted ODDin. Duly noted.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Care to elaborate?
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:47 pm

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Vote: Cephrir
(l-2)

because it seems like a popular thing to do.

Please explain uh, what ever it is you did which caused this wagon to form.
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:48 pm

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EBWOP I just can't seem to handle the whole tag thing this game (or the preview button for that matter). Fail.

Vote: Cephrir
(l-2)

because it seems like a popular thing to do.

Please explain uh, what ever it is you did which caused this wagon to form.[/quote]
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:08 am

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That's L-1 for no reason. Would you like to stop?
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:58 am

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I think he was trying to quote pablito.
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:03 am

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Let's not lynch Ceph until all the replacements have been taken care of. Why put him at L-1 and not even know why he is suspicious?
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:05 am

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For those of you who are unaware, dejkha is my brother. That's how I know all of those things. I guess I should've stated that before assuming everyone knew.
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:27 am

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Woah - some developments on wagons and not a whole lot of evidence.

Are we not waiting for the last of the replacements?
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Zero - Are you the older of the Waters, or the younger brother?

*That's an okay enough reason by the by - for your basis on suspecting why he left the game - - just make sure future evidence in games are things more substantial that we can work with and always confirm
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:12 pm

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waters? younger by 13 minutes
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:49 pm

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No way - I'm older than my brother by 7
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