. Feel free to use it, but do not try to impersonate me.
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Replacements
- Speculating reasons by a player replacing out is against the rules.
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Tiny text
- try to keep above
Size 75
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Do not
use anything not originating from this game in order to influence your play.
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You may not
discuss ongoing games.
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Personal Attacks
on players is not allowed.
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Cryptography
or other forms of encoded messages are prohibited. Breadcrumbing (giving hints about your role without claiming it) is fine.
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Provable randomness
- is against the rules. Saying that you rolled a dice is fine, using dice tags or random.org is not.
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Claiming scum
- by yourself is fine. Claiming scum with another player is against the rules.
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Confirmation
- You have about 60 hours to confirm your role and your alignment by PM. Game will start when 14 players have confirmed.
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Prods
- You must post game advancing content at least once every 36 hours or I will Prod you. You then have 24 hours to post in the game thread or I will replace you. If you return before I find a replacement you may stay in the game. Players not checking in within 24 hours of the night must send me a confirmation PM that night phase or be replaced. Receiving 3 prods results in forced replacement. Prods may be requested to be given early but will not count as an official prod until the 36 hours are up and the official prod PM is sent.
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Vacation/Limited Access:
If you need to, you may declare V/LA in bold in the thread like this:
@Mod: I will be V/LA until Thursday
. Alternatively you may PM me. If your V/LA lasts too long, I may seek replacement.
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Quoting
- You may not quote (or copy paste) any private information into the thread, including your role PM and any mod communication. This is strictly enforced. If something is unclear for this rule, ask me first.
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Voting
- Votes must in the format VOTE: MegAzumarill or
Vote: MegAzumarill
. Use vote tags whenever possible. If I think it is a vote, it counts as a vote.
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Elimination
- Elimination phases end early when a simple majority of players (>50%) vote to eliminate somebody. If a majority is not reached at deadline or if a majority of the players vote for no elimination, the phase will end without an elimination. 50% of votes are sufficient for no elimination. If three consecutive phases pass with no deaths, then the elimination method will change to be plurality. This will be publicly announced.
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Twilight
- Begins when a majority is reached and lasts until I lock the thread. You're still alive until I flip you so you can talk in any game threads you have access to until then, but votes are locked and cannot be changed.
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Night and Noon
- Night and Noon last 48 hours. I will send messages halfway through these phases to any players with an action (other than limited shot actions) that have not submitted an action.
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Death
Do not post in any private threads or the main thread after you are dead unless otherwise told you are allowed to. Do not make a Bah! post.
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Action submissions
- You may submit actions via PM (if Town) or PT (if Scum). If the actions are not submitted by the deadline then you do nothing. You can change your mind as many times as you like before the deadline. Actions may be scheduled ahead of time. All actions should be sent via PM unless specified otherwise in your role PM. The Scumteam should send their actions via PT.
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Notes PT
- These are allowed in order to track your thoughts in the game. You may draft posts in these to put in the main thread, but avoid using these to "prove" you always had a townie mindset.
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Vote Count Images
will be decided in advance. They have no bearing on the game.
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Play to win
- but most importantly, have fun!
Setup Information
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Day Cycle
The game starts in Dusk phase, then changes to night phase, then changes to dawn phase, then changes to noon phase. Most actions are performed at noon or night, eliminations are performed during Dusk and Dawn phases.
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Bastardness
This game does qualify as bastard, but the bastard elements are kept to a minimum. Mod-given information is true.
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Limited Reveal
Factional abilities will not be revealed when a faction member dies. Role abilities and alignment still flip as normal.
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Solar Cult and Lunar Cult
- These are the two scum factions. They have nonstandard factional abilities and are not neccisarily identical. Although they are flavored as cults, conversion abilities are neither confirmed nor denied to exist.
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Third Parties
and alternative win cons do not exist
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Each non-town faction
wins when they make up half the remaiming players, and the other scumteam is all eliminated.
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Random
elements may be present in the setup, but none will be randomized after the start of the game.
Spoiler: VT PM
You are a
Vanilla Townie.
You have no special abilities.
You win when at least one player is alive, and all living players are aligned with the
town
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Post #2 (isolation #2) » Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:24 am
Postby MegAzumarill »
Role PMs are beginning to go out shortly.
Quick Addition to the rules because I missed it before: Hydrae will receive a PT to communicate amongst themselves and may perform their actions there instead of via PM if town, but should still give actions via PT if non-town.
Directly quoting from the Hydra PT is not allowed in the same way it functions for Notes PT and all Mod correspondence. Drafting Posts there is of course okay.
Confirmation Count: (17/17) [14 to start]
Confirmation Deadline: (expired on 2022-10-20 03:12:17)
Please confirm by Posting in any PTs you are in, as well as PMing me your role, alignment, and anything else requested in your role PM.
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Post #3 (isolation #3) » Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:23 am
Postby MegAzumarill »
Admidst a terrible heat wave, something dark is brewing. There have been accounts of mysterious Cult activities around the town, and you are here to discuss who is involved in these occult acts. The dimness of the evening light brews suspiscion upon the faces of those around you.
use anything not originating from this game in order to influence your play.
Does this mean we can't reference meta? Or is this a more standard no OGI/no trust tells clause?
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Day Cycle
The game starts in Dusk phase, then changes to night phase, then changes to dawn phase, then changes to noon phase. Most actions are performed at noon or night, eliminations
Might want to fix that?
-Aisa
Standard OGI rules.
Will fix shortly
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Post #22 (isolation #6) » Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:51 am
Postby MegAzumarill »
In post 20, furtiveglance wrote:Meg, is there any public information about Dusk/Dawn phases? Are they different?
Both Dusk and Dawn function as normal Mafia game eliminations, as well as Noon and Night function as normal mafia game night phases. They are functionally identical except they are distinct.
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Post #1142 (isolation #39) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:34 am
Postby MegAzumarill »
A reminder that discussing future games with threats/promises based on how events unfold in this game is considered OGI and is against site rules. This is an official warning to mastina and if there is another such infraction/ continuation of this one I will be forced to replace the slot.
In post 1098, mastina wrote:(The irony is not lost on me that normal mastina would see the post I just made as scum, believe me. I am quite aware of the sheer irony of how I would be pushing myself for making that post, in spite of me knowing that it’s town, and that me talking about it would make me even more sure it came from scum. The likes of Roden are probably laughing their asses off at the karmic irony.)
So the thing you maybe don't see is that you were already doing it.
I'm going to remind you of my philosophy to scum hunting, not so that we can argue, but so that maybe you could see what I see. Not every post is alignment indicative. Most posts a player makes are NAI, and what separates town and scum is finding the few that are.
Here's what I clocked very early from the game, before you described what you described in 1097. It is clear to me you have a vision of what town!Mastina needs to look like, and you are trying to make every post you make conform to that vision. If you are town, I would say needlessly. But you kinda voiced what I was observing all along.
What separates this for me from being something that is NAI, is your post #729 where you cite your first two posts of the game as some part of your master plan to catch scum. And I think you know what I know, that you were trying to play this up as something town!Mastina does. I don't know if you believe it for real. But I think you believe that other people would believe it, and that's why you made those parts of #729.
Normally I wouldn't sit here and explain to you why you're scum, because one way or another you know the truth. But maybe if we're to salvage the game in case you are town, considering another point of view on you might be helpful.
To me, #729 and some other bits of Mastina's posting shows me that she is trying to play the part of town!Mastina rather than be a town player. I think it's well documented how much Mastina believes in meta, and I think she believes in it so much that she feels forced to try and project her meta onto her gameplay. This isn't necessarily scum-indicative on its own, I think Mastina would do it to some extent as town. But from my point of view it crossed the line of town!Mastina needing to play a certain way to scum!Mastina needing everyone else to see a certain vision of her play.
Hopefully that bit of insight helps others too who are not sure what to think about Mastina.
This would be a good point if not for one crucial factor you leave out.
Living up to the concept of mastina is not exclusive to scumastina. (That, aside from how scumastina genuinely doesn't care to try to be town mastina, because scumastina has her own style which works in spite of being night/day different. Scumastina doesn’t even try to look like town mastina, because she knows that town mastina is a liability to try and mimic. I don't need to look like town as scum, nor do I need to effort nor force an elimination. All I need to do is not be the default elimination for a day, and let the town eliminate town. I don't need to push town, nor power town S scum. Because just the bare minimum works better as scum.)
I have a strong drive to live up to the ideal of mastina as town, too. Because mastina is an IDEA, a CONCEPT.
mastina is a philosophy.
The philosophy is different as different alignments. Scumastina, find the easiest least effort path to victory where I can be the laziest.
Town mastina, to be a charismatic unwavering force of nature. Unrelenting. Never giving up on true beliefs, and holding plenty of them.
I always feel the pressure of trying to live up to the expectation, and usually I do.
But this he'll week, I just can't.
I give up on being mastina.
Oh worth mentioning:
You're right about one thing tho:
I know my meta best.
I know me better than everyone else.
When I am scum, I know exactly how scum I am. I know that I am not playing to my towngame. I might--justifiably--feel like certain aspects of my play are dead on mimicking my towngame, but while I might fake a post saying as much, no, I never truly believe that I have perfected a town-mastina guise as scumastina. Not only would doing so be detrimental even if I succeeded, but also the task is literally impossible.
You cannot mimic the full package of my towngame. It’s literally impossible. I fundamentally think differently as town versus scum. Language use, emotions, everything is night and day different. (We suspect that it’s literally different facets playing, but since we haven't had a scumgame since our plurality breakthrough, we wouldn't know yet. We'll have to rand scum to actually test that.)
If it's quite literally an entirely different person playing when town vs. Scum, then that person cannot fully pretend to be the other. (Which is why we don’t actually try.)
So with that said:
We know our meta, and thus, we know that we were not outside of it. In fact, we're doubling down on this statement:
This is the towniest game that we have EVER played in our entire mafia career. We have NEVER been this more clearly town. EVER.
I can't manage to be mastina right now, but that doesn't change how I still know what my meta is, and how I was in my town meta more clearly than I have ever been before. Literally the towniest game I have EVER had.
So l
et me reiterate:
If I am eliminated, then EVERY town player has their reading rights on me revoked PERMANENTLY.
My not being able to be mastina doesn't remove that I was still clearly town in spite of struggling to be mastina. In fact it's quite literally the exact opposite.
So I will quote this in EVERY future game you play with me in whereyou so much as HINT at having me south as null.
I. Will. NOT. Let. You. Forget.
Because I am NOT having an "off game".
I'm not able to be mastina, but I AM able to be clearly town anyway.
This IS my town self.
Try to fucking pretend it wasn't as much as you'd like. I know myself better than you do. I know my meta better than you do. So I know that I was playing to my town meta here.
And thus, future you has ZERO wiggling room to claim otherwise.
If you can't see that I'm town here, you can't fucking see that I am town in ANY game. PERIOD. Because if you can't see me as town in the towniest game that I have ever had, you can't see me as town at all.
