Cosmos Mafia (Postgame)

[Past Present Future]

You also pushed Prof as “evil”. Is he also wk Ydrasse?

[Enchant]

idk i dunno what Ydrasse flips

[Past Present Future]

idk i dunno what Ydrasse flips

Then how do you get the wk thing from? A wk means you think she’s probably town. I guess we’ll find out then. I hope she does flip scum but I don’t think so.

[Enchant]

idk i dunno what Ydrasse flips

Then how do you get the wk thing from? A wk means you think she’s probably town. I guess we’ll find out then. I hope she does flip scum but I don’t think so.

well i had ydrasse as null and also reluctant to vote here

I don't remember you putting serious effort in making counterwagon actually... Fairly i didn't put either...

[Enchant]

I just find it strange that we both did nothing but you when it's like 4 hours decided to start acting when it's probably unevitable

[Past Present Future]

idk i dunno what Ydrasse flips

Then how do you get the wk thing from? A wk means you think she’s probably town. I guess we’ll find out then. I hope she does flip scum but I don’t think so.

well i had ydrasse as null and also reluctant to vote here

I don't remember you putting serious effort in making counterwagon actually... Fairly i didn't put either...

I voted T-Bone because despite being early on MMR, he unvoted them and never revoted. I guess he gets points for not voting me but sounds like he might have known their claim was bogus. Prof was already voting him.

[Enchant]

well if it's T-bone we are fucked ceirtanly

[Past Present Future]

I just find it strange that we both did nothing but you when it's like 4 hours decided to start acting when it's probably unevitable

I would have hammered rather than a no lim but I just hate voting my trs. Read Post Apocalypse and while I was obviously very wrong on Taly, I actually got into a huge fight with Titus because I told her I wouldn’t want to play if they flipped town.

And I still think that’s probably going to be the case. I think Ydra’s demotivated town.

[Enchant]

who you scumread expect for me

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

Enchant is scum for lying about what he said to me in Nobility.

This doesn't make Enchant scum

[Past Present Future]

who you scumread expect for me

T-Bone for voting MMR early than jumping off and then never voting. Maybe Magician? I still think more than 3 scum on d1 Mastina wagon. Fire’s also possible.

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

I think Fire is pretty clearly last Solar fwiw

[MegAzumarill]

Final VC Dawn 3

Ydrasse (6) Meuh, Firebringer, Cat Scratch Fever, T-Bone, Enchant, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow [Hammer!]

Cat Scratch Fever (1) Magician
T-Bone (1) Professotic,
Enchant (1) Past Present Future

Not Voting (1) Ydrasse

Deadline was (expired on 2022-12-28 07:27:55)

[MegAzumarill]

Ydrasse was eliminated. Their role was

Spoiler:

Lunar Cultist

Spoiler: Role PM

Lunar Cultist

You have no special abilities.
[REDACTED]

You win when your faction makes up half of the living players, and no members of the Solar Cult are alive.

Thus begins Noon 3! Send me anything you might do!

The deadline for Noon is (expired on 2022-12-30 10:02:55)

[MegAzumarill]

Meuh has died. Their role was

Spoiler:

Town Limited Astrologer

Spoiler: Role PM

You are a

Town Limited Astrologer.

During the noon phase, you may target a player. Assuming no interference to your action, you will learn their attunement. The possible attunements are sun or moon.
You know all solar cult members have a sun attunement, and all lunar cult members have a moon attunement. Some members of the town are sun attuned, and some are moon attuned. This is determined nonrandomly pregame.
You are limited in the players you can target. You may not target the same player more than once. Some events may prevent you from targeting a player. You will be informed if this happens.

You win when at least one player is alive, and all living players are aligned with the

town.

[MegAzumarill]

Dusk 4 begins!
VC 7.0.0




Not Voting (8) T-Bone, Firebringer, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow, Past Present Future, Cat Scratch Fever, Enchant, professotic, Magician

With 8 alive it takes 5 to eliminate
Deadline (expired on 2023-01-06 11:36:07)

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

We targeted Meuh last night

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

The actual wording of Meuh's role heavily suggests no recruitment

Meuh's flip confirms PPF as Not-Lunar, as though anyone was doubting that

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

We had a few thoughts overnight

Our biggest point of discussion was that CSF is probably just town
I went through the beginning of CSF's ISO and it seems really clear to me that she's speaking from the perspective of a town protective role
She claims an extra element to her role almost immediately, and most importantly to me,

she's immediately and repeatedly suspicious of Radical Rat

(most likely because RR claimed a protective role and CSF thought that was unlikely to be true and town with her own role)

I showed this to Bella, she agreed that it was strong evidence for CSF town
I'd encourage others to do the same

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

We crossed Meuh off as town, yay we're right
We've also crossed Magician off as town. We both think Scarf and JunkoChan made themselves obvious town repeatedly. This doesn't seem to be hugely in contention but if it ever is we can hash it out.

[Enchant]

Why you targeted Meuh if she obviously gonna die

[T-Bone]

Oops we got another scum. Turns out my theory of not being able to clear someone as one or the other scumteam works again.

[T-Bone]

I think it gets a little harder from here as I think everyone is reasonably cleared from at least one scumteam, yeah? I use the word cleared not as mod confirmed, but based on my reads of how other players have played. Meuh's flip really helps here, as they produced a few attunements that we now know are a true thing.

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

PPF bothers me. I believe PPF is town by play. I think there are several valid reasons that make PPF unlikely to be scum. They're certainly not Lunar.

The MMR result and surrounding play is concerning. I still think the most sensible explanation for MMR's behaviour on D2 is effectively a guilty result on PPF.

I don't know how to feel more confident about PPF than I do and I'm concerned about that.

[Enchant]

I think it gets a little harder from here as I think everyone is reasonably cleared from at least one scumteam, yeah? I use the word cleared not as mod confirmed, but based on my reads of how other players have played. Meuh's flip really helps here, as they produced a few attunements that we now know are a true thing.

No, Meuh flip is harmful impact and gived us only fact that PPF is not Lunar.