Cosmos Mafia (Postgame)

[MegAzumarill]

VC 1.0.18



Radical Rat(8) Mastina, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow, Yume, furtiveglance, Past Present Future, Bunnyonce, Ydrasse, Scarfmanship [E-1!]

Mastina (7) T-Bone, Radical Rat, Maid Cafe, professotic, Mathblade, unwnd, Enchant

professotic (1) MMR,

Not Voting (1) Frozen Angel,

With 17 Alive it takes 9 to Eliminate
Deadline: (expired on 2022-11-03 15:13:12)

After some discussion with DkKoba, deadline will be frozen when the deadline is 1 day or lower and not 2 days. Deadline will freeze when it hits 24 hours remaining.

[Scarfmanship]

Um, bro? Your E-3?

[mastina]

Will have more to say later if Enchant doesn't hammer, but Enchant is off the wagon so like, if he doesn't hammer, y'all know what that means.

[Bunnyonce]

Can someone please do something / state intent?
I feel like this day just needs to end

-Aisa

[Bunnyonce]

Eternal sunset of the endless dusk

-Aisa

[T-Bone]

Enchant will hammer so Rat should claim.

[T-Bone]

Or you know, two of you quick hammer Mastina instead :p

This Rat wagon is soooo bad. Nancy/Titus you're like the only one I really trust on this wagon as far as being town, can you articulate why we're about to lim Rat? I don't think it's hyperbole to say that there has been very few folks who have even articulated why they think Rat is scum. I think at best three of the 8 voters have.

[T-Bone]

Preferably before we get a hammer. I'll go back to double-check but I honestly feel like everyone who isn't Mastina placed naked votes. That might not be true of everyone but it's definitely true of at least the last two voters!

[professotic]

Watch someone on the Mastina wagon hammer Rat.
(We will know who’s distancing)

[Bunnyonce]

(Sorry RR, I do like playing with you)

I'm not even gonna claim I have a good reason to suspect RR. Like, they seem a bit weirdly certain of their takes? But also the day just needs to end. Flipflipflip.

Greeting seems pretty sure mastina is Town, so I don't think we're gonna switch to that wagon anytime soon

-Aisa

[T-Bone]

Wow shit it's literally true of everyone but Mastina and Furtive holy shit. And I'm stretching the definition of reason for Furtive since the reason he gave was he thought the other leading wagons were on town. But I'll take it in this economy.

Rat might as well be confirmed town lolol scum do not get voted out like this.

[T-Bone]

(Sorry RR, I do like playing with you)

I'm not even gonna claim I have a good reason to suspect RR. Like, they seem a bit weirdly certain of their takes? But also the day just needs to end. Flipflipflip.

Greeting seems pretty sure mastina is Town, so I don't think we're gonna switch to that wagon anytime soon

-Aisa

Kinda illustrating the problem here. At least the people voting Mastina think she's scum and have made arguments right or wrong.

I don't mean to accuse you specifically but we're literally eliminating Rat to get a flip? That's it? That's incredibly frustrating. The day feels wasted.

[T-Bone]

But I'll take it in this economy.

I kept saying Mastina must have a reason but honestly I don't know what that is. I think Furtive is the only player who has put themselves out there with a reason.

[Scarfmanship]

Anyone want to quickhammer mastina?

[Radical Rat]

I just got off work, will post properly when I get home/after dinner.

I'm a protective role though (I think). I'll explain more when I get back

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

Like, they seem a bit weirdly certain of their takes?

There is validity to this as a concept, don't underrate it.

A lot of RR's posting feels very rigid to me in a way that resonates with what you're saying here

[T-Bone]

But I'll take it in this economy.

I kept saying Mastina must have a reason but honestly I don't know what that is. I think Furtive is the only player who has put themselves out there with a reason.

I remember what it was now

[Radical Rat]

Okay so.

I can remove burns on people, and if I target someone on the same phase they would receive a burn, the burn is blocked. My target will be informed if a burn is removed or blocked successfully.

I have not been told what a burn actually is, but I assume it has to do with the nonstandard factional abilities. Solar Cult makes the most sense to be burning people to me in that case.

[unwnd]

I am not voting off an arsonist claim

[unwnd]

I am not voting off someone who protects from a likely arsonist in this setup e.g firefighter

[Enchant]

Hm

[Enchant]

So

UNVOTE:

Ya better to pick someone else. Use frozen deadline for full extent.

[Yume]

I am not voting mastina, nor are a few others. So pick someone else to mislim.

[Radical Rat]

Someone really should unvote me.

[mastina]

Will have more to say later if Enchant doesn't hammer, but Enchant is off the wagon so like, if he doesn't hammer, y'all know what that means.

Okay let me spell it out for you now that it has manifested.

Enchant always hammers as scum.

Enchant always hammers as town.

This is not a trust tell as a consequence, because him always hammering is done regardless of alignment.

Now, he will vote pre-hammer so can't hammer a wagon he's already on.

But if given the opportunity to hammer--even if it's a townread, even if it's a PR. Enchant will still hammer.

And having a stalled gamestate is all the more

reason

for Enchant to hammer. He'd have extra incentive to get the game into night, just so that we're not in the day anymore.

So then.

When there is MORE reason to hammer, rather than less.
And Enchant--regardless of his alignment--should hammer.

That begs the question:

Hm

So
UNVOTE:
Ya better to pick someone else. Use frozen deadline for full extent.

...Why isn't he?

There's only one reason which fits:

Enchant is scum

with

Radical Rat.

I suspected that in the first place when Enchant hopped onto my wagon when the Radical Rat wagon was bigger, attempting to tie the wagons up (and almost succeeding). Enchant can and will vote not to hammer, but he still likes to hammer and voting me at that time would deny him that if the wagon were to go through (and a wagon on me was quite likely to go through).

So why vote me there?

To try and save RR.

And the lack of hammer on RR proves it.