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In post 2492, mastin2 wrote:Sonic:You're right! Frogger is scum! Please come help me in my crusade by lynching him. Be my vote along-side my voice. I need your support to do it.
Titus:(I'm presuming it was the Titus head that voted Ra9in9 Bull, via ika) You voted for Frogger; what changed your mind?
Ricastle:Same question to you.
Grapes:You had an early Frogger vote; would you be willing to join a resurgence in the wagon?
Of course I'm right. Those fucklords don't want to move.
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In post 2626, Metal Sonic wrote:Cases are scummy
In post 2630, Metal Sonic wrote:Like that means anything
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In post 2655, mastin2 wrote:
Which is, by itself, a something!In post 2567, Reasonably Rational wrote:Fro99er also hasn't *done* anything.
And who says he had any intention of being outted as ascetic? A cop failing in their investigation isn't going to go, "Hmm, must be ascetic." They're going to think, "Hmm, musta been roleblocked." Same for ANY role acting during the night. If a role targets an ascetic player, they're not going to think the player they're targeting caused the failure; they'll suspect an outside source. Basic human nature, given the relative rarity of ascetics and the relative commonality of roleblocker-type roles. In fact, Sonic X with a gladiate is probably one of the ONLY roles who targeting Frogger WON'T produce the, "I must have been roleblocked" reaction, since ascetic is basically the only real answer to the shot being expended yet having failed.Would scum ascetic frogger not tell town he was ascetic, so that way he gets to be a PL for not sharing that information earlier in the game?
Yeah and even then my first reaction was "this game is bastard" for a while until Varsoon and cooldog both reassured me that it is intended-
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In post 2707, Ricastle wrote:
Common misconception: You don't need reasons to attack someone in order to attack them.In post 2705, CooLDoG wrote:common misconception: you have to defend a case. And I don't really care what you think or say. So yeah. You overreacted.
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In post 2752, Ricastle wrote:So, Mastin. About that "will become conftown on D3"?
I'm more than welcome to lynching Sonic or Cooldog rn.
So, Ricastle. About that "Replace In is scum"?
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In post 2776, ZZZX wrote:My vla just ended and I have no fucking idea wtf is going on
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In post 2926, Reasonably Rational wrote:fro99er is a Gem, currently in a fusion with us. Since it's a fusion, I can confirm his claimed gem status is not fake. Obviously a cursory examination of the show wiki will show that not all gems are good gems, but the primary reason people are voting him is completely destroyed now.
this is dumb. why would frogger fakeclaim his race even if scum? you make it seem as if we are voting him because he lied about being gem.
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In post 2951, Metal Sonic wrote:In post 2949, Trench Warfare wrote:The walls have eyes
by the by this is a really really good book
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5782 ... -have-eyes
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you know whatim nicei'll do it for you
enjoy quotewalls
i did this on purpose
that'll teach you
In post 2501, mastin2 wrote:Also, I'm gonna do what Sonic was too lazy to: quote Beer about Raging Bull, AKA, Frogger. (Or Fro99er, if you prefer to be technical.)In post 1396, Beer wrote:Bull/NicCage are the two players that seriously seriously need to be looked at when I flip town. Bull is white knighting us: he continually tries to ascribe scum motivation to town players pushing out wagon that isn't there, his thought process doesn't make a whole lot of sense, and he keeps complaining about people pushing him for his activity when the entire push is on Ika for his inactivity.In post 1393, Beer wrote:You've seen Ika lurk as town, ok. Has he ever gone through an entire day phase with this little content as town before? Do you really think that ika replaces out of this game without telling his own hydra partner as town or do you think he at least makes an effort to defend himself/explain what happened? I can't stress enough how straightforward and easy the Ika read is. Read his completed games. Skim his ISOs. He lurks comically hard as scum (which is what he's doing here). He puts some sort of effort in as town. That's it.In post 1391, Beer wrote:
Vezok has been shady about the situation? Hasn't seemed that way at all to me. It seems like he made a misguided push and put his heart into it; you say that he claiming we were hated happened too late but he did it early enough where the town could have did something about it and he was additionally under no obligation to share our claim because it is our responsibility to get in thread and claim our shit. You trying to pin our lynch on his shadiness is bullshit.In post 1387, Fro99er wrote:Vezok's somewhat shadiness in terms of being forthright about what was said and the hated claim deal and I am not feeling good about a Beer wagon. He's probably getting lynched anyway because deadline, but you are my strongest scumread because both you and ZZ are playing to your scum meta.
There's also that matter of the empty claim of Sonic/ZZZX playing to their scum meta: are you planning on backing that up, or do you hope vague meta assertions about other players are going to carry you to victory?In post 1390, Beer wrote:
This is an extraordinarily lame vote. You think that Sonic-scum pushes that we are scum because we are not hated when we only have 9 votes on us?In post 1375, Fro99er wrote:
There's 9 votes on Beer and 11 to lynch. Beer could still be hated.In post 1372, Sonic X wrote:You all forgot that a lynch didn't happen after bins "hammered"
Beer obviously isn't hated
Either that or Varsoon made a vc mistake
VOTE: Sonic XIn post 1362, Beer wrote:
Don't care about your activity. I care about Ika's. There's a very strong correlation between activity and alignment with him and he's shown no signs of fixing that correlation anytime soon.In post 1340, Ra9in9 Bull wrote:So activity is? It's so annoying when I'm read as town or as scum based on activity
I don't think you've done anything that looks particularly town, either: pushing vezok for not paraphrasing the PT shows that you're not reading his posts very closely or looking at his play as a whole.In post 1206, Beer wrote:GOOD LYNCHES:
Ra9in9 Bull: I love this vote because it's so lovely and so easy. When ika posts, he's town. When ika doesn't post, he's scum. Ika isn't posting. He is probably scum! Now there is this nasty caveat that the slot might be scum thanks to the bulletproof claim that was crumbed at the beginning of the game but it's not a shining light of overwhelming towniness that makes me feel bad about voting the slot or anything like that.
There ya go.In post 1189, Beer wrote:Vote: Raging Bull
This seems like a fairly straightforward vote and the likeliest to hit scum at the moment. Ika has a very distinct meta: as town, he does something. As scum, he does nothing but lurk. All he is doing here is lurking.
Yeah, yeah. Lynched player, who also had some provably-bad reads (e.g. Marquis, Cheetory). I'm not saying to blindly sheep them; they should be taken with a grain of salt. But I am also asking that people read the above and consider it.
In post 2502, mastin2 wrote:
Also don't see this as town.In post 604, Ra9in9 Bull wrote:why did you out our BP
In post 2504, mastin2 wrote:
This also doesn't look good, either.In post 61, Ra9in9 Bull wrote:Good god, why of all the roles i get this......
Meh at least the other part is ok. I got a few to chat but then i got work
In post 2505, mastin2 wrote:
All of its one voters?In post 2503, vezokpiraka wrote:I'm not voting frogger. That wagon screams bad things.
WHAT bad things?
The only bad thing about it is how it's not larger than it is!
In post 2548, mastin2 wrote:Quick note before I go to work:
Another couple of points against Frogger are that ika's rage looked entirely faked (as did most of his posting for that matter), and that Frogger's posting has been fairly bad overall: there are admittedly large chunks in the middle that are okay, but both near the beginning and the end, it's nothing but bad posting. That, not even going into the Raging Bull posting which was just terrible.
I really wish I had more time to talk right now, because there's not only the above I want to talk about in more detail, but also one or two others that I want to explain:
One, that it's unlikely Varsoon would include THREE different double-voters with one of them as a vote thief, and make them all town. Two, that when it came to the power roles from the Micro, Varsoon felt that the town was overpowered and scum underpowered by my memory, and that he ranted about it--so do you honestly think that in THIS game, he'd make the scum EVEN WEAKER and the town EVEN STRONGER by having a town ascetic vote thief? No, by far the more likely answer is that V buffed the power of the mafia ascetic to be a vote thief, because by someone's own admission (forget who), Varsoon makes ridiculously-strong scum roles. And ascetic vote thief (keep in mind that scum ascetic IS EFFECTIVELY A GODFATHER!) seems to fit the bill.
In post 2551, mastin2 wrote:
Yes.In post 2508, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:Mastin2, you made two very passionate posts on how one should NEVER hero-vig, and here you are telling ricastle to hero-vig.
WHICH SHOULD TELL YOU WHAT I MEAN ABOUT FROGGER!
The fact that there's this much resistance to a Fro99er wagon should tell you something, too! Even people whohave supported the wagonare hesitant to join it. Such as Ricastle. Heck! Vezok's iso contains nothing but Frogger-bashing the entire time as far as I can tell, so he should have no reason to resist, yet here he is insisting that something about the basically-nonexistent-at-the-time wagon is bad!
In post 2553, mastin2 wrote:
I think we have: YOURS! Ascetic for town = macho-miller essentially, unable to be investigated or protected. Ascetic for SCUM? SUPERIOR in strength to a Godfather, because it effectively makes them half-ninja (immune to trackers), half-strongman (immune to roleblockers), and COMPLETE godfather (immune to cops, rolecops, gunsmiths, vanilla cops, and whatnot). Throw in the vote thief power? You've got one heck of a strong scum role.In post 2513, Fro99er wrote:Add in the conftown mass commute/reflexive kill by TunnelWarriors and you claiming you are conftown tomorrow, then what kind of powers do you think scum has, and why haven't we seen any yet?
In post 2556, mastin2 wrote:
How do you not see that Frogger isn't town? It's townVscum, SonicVFrogger. And now I get to turn around and flip the point in Frogger's defense against him: you're saying this generic thing about Frogger being town, without backing up why. (The irony!)In post 2521, Reasonably Rational wrote:Frogger v Sonic screams TvT, how do you not see that?
In post 2613, mastin2 wrote:So I only have fifteen minutes. Doubt I'll be able to read the two pages (back on 103 right now) in that time, but I'll try.
I logged in for additional points against Frogger.
Near-universally, vote thief (which is basically what Frogger's ally power is) is a scum ability. I realize that searching for vote thieves is a problem because (1) it's an extremely rare role, and (2) it's almost always in a theme and thus not necessarily called by that name (vote thieves being CALLED vote thieves are in the minority!), but for every instance of a town vote thief you find, you can find ten instances of a scum vote thief. The reason why is clear: because while there is basically minimal utility in a town player stealing the vote of another player (one who is far more likely to be town than scum anyway, ESPECIALLY given the allying system!), there ismassiveutility in a scum player stealing the vote of a player (especially a town one), even if the steal is limited to one player and is public in nature.
Then you look into the ascetic half. Let's for the sake of argument discard the fact that Varsoon included a 1x Gladiator and that Fro99er claimed to be an ascetic, when in a previous game that Varsoon was in, that combination would make Fro99er scum. Let's just assume that for one second, that point isn't valid and that it actually IS coincidence. (It's not, I guarantee you it's not, but for the sake of argument...) Let's focus on just the ascetic bit. What is the utility in a town ascetic? There basically is none; it's considered a negative utility role, akin to a miller.
What is the utility in a scum ascetic? As I have said--and take it from me, I'm a NORMAL REVIEWER so I actually GET THIS AS PART OF MY JOB!--Mafia Ascetics are used in lieu of Godfathers, and while weaker in the sense that they're not giving a false positive, they're stronger in that they interfere with all town investigative roles (including the RB) rather than just the one. So Mafia Ascetics, again I know this for a fact, are in the rise usage-wise.
Ergo, Fro99er's role is not just half scum.
It's entirely scum.
There's minimal to zero town utility behind the role, while offering scum MASSIVE utility.
Frogger is scum. Guarantee you. By setup. By mod meta. By play of hydra partner. By VCA. By dead town analysis. And by own play. (Admittedly I've yet to show the last bit, but I'm planning on it when I have more time.) Whoever else might be scum. Maybe Replace-in, maybe Constantine. It doesn't matter. Leave them for another day. Heck, the presence of an ascetic Fro99er's alignment regardless implies the presence of an investigative PR, so if you're that desperate to learn their alignment let a cop take care of them or something. You can't do that for Fro99er, though. So just lynch him today. Not tomorrow, today.
In post 2649, mastin2 wrote:Btw, another point against Frogger is that BP claim earlier. (Still need to catch up, am doing so soon.)
As a town ascetic, know what your job is?
To die via nightkill. Like a town miller.
Alternatively, to draw scum PRs if unclaimed, even though that strategy is questionable even at its best.
Know what claiming BP does?
Ensures you don't die via nightkill.
In post 2651, mastin2 wrote:Like, I'm raising a ton. TON. Of points against Frogger, which are a wide variety of different things, different angles to look at it. And basically the only thing, the only way to write that off, is, "Well, his play looks town?"
In post 2652, mastin2 wrote:
The basic point is a response to the Replace-in wagon.In post 2557, NicCage wrote:Mastin, what could ricastles lack of support for voting frog have to do with frog's alignment? That's sort of sophistic territory you're walking into there. Vezo though idk, that would be nice to hear about.
"Oh, hey, it's been hard to wagon Replace-in, that means Replace-in must be scum."
To which, I responded, "Oh, YEAH? Just look at the Frogger wagon, whichhas resistance from people who. And go tell me THAT isn't a hard wagon."previously supported it and haven't changed their mind
I'm fighting tooth and nail here for every vote.All the while, struggling to maintain those already existing,andwith the risk of the existing wagons overtaking my counterwagon attempt at any time to get a lynch. The Fro99er wagon is viable, sure, but it struggles to be tangible.
In contrast, the Replace-in wagon and the Constantine wagon have both existed since the beginning of the day, essentially--the Replace-in wagon going further back than that, to D1! They've been both viable and tangible the entire time (thus, are likely mislynches), so basically, the 'point' against Replace-in is actually a huge black mark against Fro99er, not Replace-in.
In post 2654, mastin2 wrote:
Just because Frogger's scum doesn't mean he can't raise a good point for why Replace-in wouldn't be. In fact, it's to his benefit to. Basically, Frogger's alignment regardless, he raised a good point on why Replace-in wouldn't be scum. I agreed with the point. I still think Frogger is scum in spite of him raising the point.In post 2559, Ricastle wrote:Why are you agreeing with Fro99er's point about Replace In if you think he's scum, which as a result would give Replace In a legitimate reason as scum to try and clear Fro99er?
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Which is, by itself, a something!In post 2567, Reasonably Rational wrote:Fro99er also hasn't *done* anything.
And who says he had any intention of being outted as ascetic? A cop failing in their investigation isn't going to go, "Hmm, must be ascetic." They're going to think, "Hmm, musta been roleblocked." Same for ANY role acting during the night. If a role targets an ascetic player, they're not going to think the player they're targeting caused the failure; they'll suspect an outside source. Basic human nature, given the relative rarity of ascetics and the relative commonality of roleblocker-type roles. In fact, Sonic X with a gladiate is probably one of the ONLY roles who targeting Frogger WON'T produce the, "I must have been roleblocked" reaction, since ascetic is basically the only real answer to the shot being expended yet having failed.Would scum ascetic frogger not tell town he was ascetic, so that way he gets to be a PL for not sharing that information earlier in the game?
In post 2659, mastin2 wrote:In post 2574, NicCage wrote:I don’t care that Varsoon may have seen the scum ascetic/ town gladiator before.May haveseen?!?
He was in the fucking game!
Fuck it. I swore I wouldn't bring that game up, but you clearly are all lazy idiots who refuse to do your own damn research without me wagging the leash in front of you, so here I go. The game in question.
I find it impossible. Literally. fucking. impossible. That we have a 1x Gladiator claim. And an ascetic claim. With Varsoon as the mod. As COINCIDENCE. When he was in that fucking game.
In post 2662, mastin2 wrote:
This is an absolute shit point too.In post 2590, Fro99er wrote:That comment about the Constantine wagon being all scum reads (even though he was the last to join the Constantine wagon of those currently voting Constantine) is absolute BS. Why did he join a bunch of scum reads on a wagon?
Replace-in voted Constantine out of survivalism: Replace-in was the largest wagon, and Constantine the second-largest.
When Replace-in bothered to look at the wagon on Constantine, Replace-in made the analysis that it was a bad wagon, andin spite of it basically ensuring Replace-in as the lynch, said that anyway, and I believe hopped off.
Know what that is?
That's town.
Not scum.
RAISING this point AGAINST Replace-in, though, THAT is scum.
In post 2737, mastin2 wrote:
After Fro99er made that post, Replace-in gained a number of votes, at least one or two, off of that point alone. When it is the absolute largest piece of shit of a point ever. And of those who jumped on, I think there might have been oneIn post 2662, mastin2 wrote:
This is an absolute shit point too.In post 2590, Fro99er wrote:That comment about the Constantine wagon being all scum reads (even though he was the last to join the Constantine wagon of those currently voting Constantine) is absolute BS. Why did he join a bunch of scum reads on a wagon?
Replace-in voted Constantine out of survivalism: Replace-in was the largest wagon, and Constantine the second-largest.
When Replace-in bothered to look at the wagon on Constantine, Replace-in made the analysis that it was a bad wagon, andin spite of it basically ensuring Replace-in as the lynch, said that anyway, and hopped off.who previously acknowledged Replace-in's survivalism-vote as being null. (Checking in a sec to confirm.)
In post 2736, mastin2 wrote:Still would like to say that Fro99er's point was a shitty one.-
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In post 3100, Varsoon wrote:fro99er (5): Sonic X, NicCage, Vezokpiraka, Vezokpiraka, grapes-
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In post 3131, Reasonably Rational wrote:One last thing. Vezok is probably scum. He keeps appearing to be trying to break the game by flavor and pushing townies to the gallows. His double vote going away at end game takes role reasons to exclude him from the scum list away and after that we're just left with worthless content and him pushing townies to mislynches. That's bad. He's probably scum.
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oh,, yeah. varsoon just ran space dandy mafia with a fucking overpowered scum hypervoter that ended the game so easily and also there was a very noob town mass roleblocker that stopped 2 dayvigs on 2 scum
but i think vezok is town for play-
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In post 3127, Reasonably Rational wrote:Also, now is a good time to say that we have several pieces of weak evidence, which when taken together make it very likely that Fro99er is town. The pushes on him are all suspect in my opinion (Cerb may agree or not on this front, but I think he agrees with me that all cases thus far against Fro99er are shit). Mastin gets a pass because she gets cleared, but everyone else is rising up the scum list. After Fro99er got back from the vet, he was quite willing to submit to our questioning, and one particular thing he said simply doesn't make sense coming from a scum viewpoint, on top of the other evidence for him being town.
For the sake of the game state, either Sonic X or Fro99er need to be lynched today, and since we believe that Fro99er is town, then the logical move is to take Sonic X to the gallows today. It's possible that's a Town v. Town situation, but it has read to me like either one or the other of them was scum going back as far as I can recall having formed an opinion on their spat, and since Fro99er has the different pieces of weak evidence plus a personal town read from us, Sonic is like to be scum, in our opinion.
this is stupid
are you not going to listen to mastina that frogger is scum? i dont know how else to help you. frogger is sitting there bullshitting "you can't lynch me if you have no case!!" which is a typical scum reaction to being caught but town is too dumb
i can compromise on fuzzy but theres 5 votes on frogger 0 on fuzzy, i'm taking the frog
i can also remove farside. shes remarkably useless and bad here. that vote on me? super bad-
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RR, are you rational here. how many conftown you know are scumreading frogger? at least 2. AT LEAST 2. Beer and mastina
how many conftown you know are scumreading me? yourself? you aren't even sure yourself. how can you count that.
so are you going to ignore their views because of your own "reads" that arent even based in fact? do you think you are a beter scumhunter than these people combined on an agreed opinion?
its so fucking difficult to lynch scum and you losers are telling me to "look at more scumreads"? screw off.-
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In post 3141, farside22 wrote:In post 3138, Sonic X wrote:In post 3127, Reasonably Rational wrote:Also, now is a good time to say that we have several pieces of weak evidence, which when taken together make it very likely that Fro99er is town. The pushes on him are all suspect in my opinion (Cerb may agree or not on this front, but I think he agrees with me that all cases thus far against Fro99er are shit). Mastin gets a pass because she gets cleared, but everyone else is rising up the scum list. After Fro99er got back from the vet, he was quite willing to submit to our questioning, and one particular thing he said simply doesn't make sense coming from a scum viewpoint, on top of the other evidence for him being town.
For the sake of the game state, either Sonic X or Fro99er need to be lynched today, and since we believe that Fro99er is town, then the logical move is to take Sonic X to the gallows today. It's possible that's a Town v. Town situation, but it has read to me like either one or the other of them was scum going back as far as I can recall having formed an opinion on their spat, and since Fro99er has the different pieces of weak evidence plus a personal town read from us, Sonic is like to be scum, in our opinion.
this is stupid
are you not going to listen to mastina that frogger is scum? i dont know how else to help you. frogger is sitting there bullshitting "you can't lynch me if you have no case!!" which is a typical scum reaction to being caught but town is too dumb
i can compromise on fuzzy but theres 5 votes on frogger 0 on fuzzy, i'm taking the frog
i can also remove farside. shes remarkably useless and bad here. that vote on me? super bad
And there is the omgus from sonic since I've been calling him scum since day 2.
omgus is a town action-
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In post 3144, farside22 wrote:In post 3143, Sonic X wrote:In post 3141, farside22 wrote:In post 3138, Sonic X wrote:In post 3127, Reasonably Rational wrote:Also, now is a good time to say that we have several pieces of weak evidence, which when taken together make it very likely that Fro99er is town. The pushes on him are all suspect in my opinion (Cerb may agree or not on this front, but I think he agrees with me that all cases thus far against Fro99er are shit). Mastin gets a pass because she gets cleared, but everyone else is rising up the scum list. After Fro99er got back from the vet, he was quite willing to submit to our questioning, and one particular thing he said simply doesn't make sense coming from a scum viewpoint, on top of the other evidence for him being town.
For the sake of the game state, either Sonic X or Fro99er need to be lynched today, and since we believe that Fro99er is town, then the logical move is to take Sonic X to the gallows today. It's possible that's a Town v. Town situation, but it has read to me like either one or the other of them was scum going back as far as I can recall having formed an opinion on their spat, and since Fro99er has the different pieces of weak evidence plus a personal town read from us, Sonic is like to be scum, in our opinion.
this is stupid
are you not going to listen to mastina that frogger is scum? i dont know how else to help you. frogger is sitting there bullshitting "you can't lynch me if you have no case!!" which is a typical scum reaction to being caught but town is too dumb
i can compromise on fuzzy but theres 5 votes on frogger 0 on fuzzy, i'm taking the frog
i can also remove farside. shes remarkably useless and bad here. that vote on me? super bad
And there is the omgus from sonic since I've been calling him scum since day 2.
omgus is a town action
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In post 3147, Reasonably Rational wrote:In post 3137, Sonic X wrote:In post 3131, Reasonably Rational wrote:One last thing. Vezok is probably scum. He keeps appearing to be trying to break the game by flavor and pushing townies to the gallows. His double vote going away at end game takes role reasons to exclude him from the scum list away and after that we're just left with worthless content and him pushing townies to mislynches. That's bad. He's probably scum.
Love, still with fresh cookies and warm milk,
Drixx
oh,, yeah. varsoon just ran space dandy mafia with a fucking overpowered scum hypervoter that ended the game so easily and also there was a very noob town mass roleblocker that stopped 2 dayvigs on 2 scum
but i think vezok is town for play
In post 3138, Sonic X wrote:In post 3127, Reasonably Rational wrote:Also, now is a good time to say that we have several pieces of weak evidence, which when taken together make it very likely that Fro99er is town. The pushes on him are all suspect in my opinion (Cerb may agree or not on this front, but I think he agrees with me that all cases thus far against Fro99er are shit). Mastin gets a pass because she gets cleared, but everyone else is rising up the scum list. After Fro99er got back from the vet, he was quite willing to submit to our questioning, and one particular thing he said simply doesn't make sense coming from a scum viewpoint, on top of the other evidence for him being town.
For the sake of the game state, either Sonic X or Fro99er need to be lynched today, and since we believe that Fro99er is town, then the logical move is to take Sonic X to the gallows today. It's possible that's a Town v. Town situation, but it has read to me like either one or the other of them was scum going back as far as I can recall having formed an opinion on their spat, and since Fro99er has the different pieces of weak evidence plus a personal town read from us, Sonic is like to be scum, in our opinion.
this is stupid
are you not going to listen to mastina that frogger is scum? i dont know how else to help you. frogger is sitting there bullshitting "you can't lynch me if you have no case!!" which is a typical scum reaction to being caught but town is too dumb
i can compromise on fuzzy but theres 5 votes on frogger 0 on fuzzy, i'm taking the frog
i can also remove farside. shes remarkably useless and bad here. that vote on me? super bad
Didn't you give yourself an excuse to lurk as soon as we made the infodump? Are you catching up on the thread or doing damage control? I can't tell which.
Love,
Drixx
P-Edit: Insults are the last resort of bullies and morons. Do try and rise above that. We are town reading Fro99er because of our interactions with him, information we have that is weak evidence for him being town, and because every case made against him doesn't stand up to even basic rudimentary logical examination. It doesn't matter that I'm sure Mastin is town. That doesn't make her logically awful "case" against Fro99er actually stand up to scrutiny. It simply doesn't pass muster.
Also ... Vezok's ISO is even more awful than we thought. I'll let Cerb elaborate on that though.
how long does it take to read 6 pages? 15-20 minutes? i have a laptop now specially to do chores like that.
well screw cases. the case on frogger is already one of the most content in the game. was there a case on beer? was there a case on replace in? your insistence of dumb walls that are more time consuming is just hindering progress. i can't be 100% sure that frogger is scum unless i am a cop and i copo him. i can however be 95% sure.
your town read on him also doesnt stand up to "basic rudimentary logical examination" its just your opinion. and there are clearly many people that disagree with you. and they are probably right-
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In post 3150, farside22 wrote:In post 3148, Sonic X wrote:im in a "Hydra" with zzzx. you want to tell me that omgus is not a town action? back that shit up
It's null no mater what.
You back up only town does it and I show you scum doing it and then what do you have?
i have zzzx loser omgus meta-
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In post 3150, farside22 wrote:In post 3148, Sonic X wrote:im in a "Hydra" with zzzx. you want to tell me that omgus is not a town action? back that shit up
It's null no mater what.
You back up only town does it and I show you scum doing it and then what do you have?
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In post 3141, farside22 wrote:In post 3138, Sonic X wrote:In post 3127, Reasonably Rational wrote:Also, now is a good time to say that we have several pieces of weak evidence, which when taken together make it very likely that Fro99er is town. The pushes on him are all suspect in my opinion (Cerb may agree or not on this front, but I think he agrees with me that all cases thus far against Fro99er are shit). Mastin gets a pass because she gets cleared, but everyone else is rising up the scum list. After Fro99er got back from the vet, he was quite willing to submit to our questioning, and one particular thing he said simply doesn't make sense coming from a scum viewpoint, on top of the other evidence for him being town.
For the sake of the game state, either Sonic X or Fro99er need to be lynched today, and since we believe that Fro99er is town, then the logical move is to take Sonic X to the gallows today. It's possible that's a Town v. Town situation, but it has read to me like either one or the other of them was scum going back as far as I can recall having formed an opinion on their spat, and since Fro99er has the different pieces of weak evidence plus a personal town read from us, Sonic is like to be scum, in our opinion.
this is stupid
are you not going to listen to mastina that frogger is scum? i dont know how else to help you. frogger is sitting there bullshitting "you can't lynch me if you have no case!!" which is a typical scum reaction to being caught but town is too dumb
i can compromise on fuzzy but theres 5 votes on frogger 0 on fuzzy, i'm taking the frog
i can also remove farside. shes remarkably useless and bad here. that vote on me? super bad
And there is the omgus from sonic since I've been calling him scum since day 2.
then why did you make this post? are you trying to call me scum with it? are you trying to misrep or discredit me? what?-
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In post 3158, farside22 wrote:In post 3155, Sonic X wrote:theres nothing wrong with using others cases. why must i make my own? waste time.
and i have already made my own, just so you know. so dont bs me
The same bs that had nothing new.
that doesnt diminish the validity of the earlier cases? you make it sound like because i am pointing you to mastin's guide on "why is frogger scum" my hands make her guide dirty and it is suddenly wrong
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In post 3162, Reasonably Rational wrote:In post 3142, Sonic X wrote:RR, are you rational here. how many conftown you know are scumreading frogger? at least 2. AT LEAST 2. Beer and mastina
how many conftown you know are scumreading me? yourself? you aren't even sure yourself. how can you count that.
so are you going to ignore their views because of your own "reads" that arent even based in fact? do you think you are a beter scumhunter than these people combined on an agreed opinion?
its so fucking difficult to lynch scum and you losers are telling me to "look at more scumreads"? screw off.
Being conftown doesn't make you more likely to be right. The reasons mastin and you have presented for scumreading fro99er are, as I've said thrice before I believe, shit. I don't listen to shit logic. I don't follow the lead of people holding to shitty positions on a topic. As I said before, if you want me to believe fro99er is scum, pretend you never played with him before, and this is the first game of mafia either of you have ever played. Show me how he's scum, using just his play in this game, and no other resources. Do that in a logical, comprehensive fashion, and I will gladly hammer the shit out of him.
-Cerb
being scum makes you more likely to be wrong (because you want to mislead town into lynching town)
therefore being conftown makes you more likely to be right
oh and cool niccage has a guilty now CAN YOU HAMMER THE FROG INTO PASTE-
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In post 3203, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:I figured that everyone was pretty much going to stay with their partner. This seemed like a safe assumption
No I am only a 1x shot FruitVendor. I get it back on day 4 if I used it, If I don't use it nothing happens. I can only have 1 slice of pizza at a time
Ok, does anyone else claim a shittier PR than this guy? otherwise I'm taking this as bullshit crafted by his scumbuddies-
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In post 3198, Trench Warfare wrote:In post 3193, Sonic X wrote:I TOLD YOU SO BUSTERS
Let's boom. You were right. Enjoy your "boom" apology.
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This is bullshit. I called for people with night actions to target me, especially if you have a night action that is weak or useless. Why didn't you give the fruit vendor to me?
I think you gave it to mastin to buddy her... Or are scum who is giving out poison pizza. There's is no reason for you to have 1) such a bad and probably fake PR and 2) give it to mastin-
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